E.N. Yes, of course. And it would be in order for such a movement, to be some kind of positive spirit...

V.E. There will be movement when it matures. It is not needed to move before time, like picking an unripened fruit. And it is not necessary to be afraid of time. Saint Sergie, for instance, did his own quiet work for fifty years. So little by little, slow consciousness goes. Just exactly like God gives it, and it will be firm.