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St. Catherine of Siena
The Dialogue of Saint Catherine
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A TREATISE OF OBEDIENCE
Of the perversities, miseries, and labors of the disobedient man; and of the miserable fruits which proceed from disobedience.
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Of
the
perversities
,
miseries
,
and
labors
of
the
disobedient
man
;
and
of
the
miserable
fruits
which
proceed
from
disobedience
.
"
Contrariwise
,
a
wicked
disobedient
man
dwells
in
the
ship
of
a
religious
order
with
so
much
pain
to
himself
and
others
,
that
in
this
life
he
tastes
the
earnest
of
hell
,
he
remains
always
in
sadness
and
confusion
of
mind
,
tormented
by
the
sting
of
conscience
,
with
hatred
of
his
order
and
superior
,
insupportable
to
himself
.
What
a
terrible
thing
it
is
,
My
daughter
,
to
see
one
who
has
once
taken
the
key
of
obedience
of
a
religious
order
,
living
in
disobedience
,
to
which
he
has
made
himself
a
slave
,
for
of
disobedience
he
has
made
his
mistress
with
her
companion
impatience
,
nourished
by
pride
,
and
his
own
pleasure
,
which
pride
(
as
has
been
said
)
issues
from
self-love
.
For
him
everything
is
the
contrary
to
what
it
would
be
for
the
obedient
man
.
For
how
can
this
wretch
be
in
any
other
state
than
suffering
,
for
he
is
deprived
of
charity
,
he
is
obliged
by
force
to
incline
the
neck
of
his
own
will
,
and
pride
keeps
it
erect
,
all
his
desires
are
in
discord
with
the
will
of
the
order
.
The
order
commands
obedience
,
and
he
loves
disobedience
;
the
order
commands
voluntary
poverty
,
and
he
avoids
it
,
possessing
and
acquiring
riches
;
the
order
commands
continence
and
purity
,
and
he
desires
lewdness
.
By
transgressing
these
three
vows
,
My
daughter
,
a
religious
comes
to
ruin
,
and
falls
into
so
many
miseries
,
that
his
aspect
is
no
longer
that
of
a
religious
but
of
an
incarnate
devil
,
as
in
another
place
I
related
to
you
at
greater
length
.
I
will
,
however
,
tell
you
something
now
of
their
delusion
,
and
of
the
fruit
which
they
obtained
by
disobedience
to
the
commendation
and
exhortation
of
obedience
.
This
wretched
man
is
deluded
by
his
self-love
,
because
the
eye
of
his
intellect
is
fixed
,
with
a
dead
faith
,
on
pleasing
his
self-will
,
and
on
things
of
the
world
.
He
left
the
world
in
body
,
but
remained
there
in
his
affections
,
and
because
obedience
seems
wearisome
to
him
he
wishes
to
disobey
in
order
to
avoid
weariness
;
whereby
he
arrives
at
the
greatest
weariness
of
all
,
for
he
is
obliged
to
obey
either
by
force
or
by
love
,
and
it
would
have
been
better
and
less
wearisome
to
have
obeyed
by
love
than
without
it
.
Oh
!
how
deluded
he
is
,
and
no
one
else
deceives
him
but
himself
.
Wishing
to
please
himself
he
only
gives
himself
displeasure
,
for
the
actions
which
he
will
have
to
do
,
through
the
obedience
imposed
on
him
,
do
not
please
him
.
He
wishes
to
enjoy
delights
and
make
this
life
his
eternity
,
but
the
order
wishes
him
to
be
a
pilgrim
,
and
continually
proves
it
to
him
;
for
when
he
is
in
a
nice
pleasant
resting
place
,
where
he
would
like
to
remain
for
the
pleasures
and
delights
he
finds
there
,
he
is
transferred
elsewhere
,
and
the
change
gives
him
pain
,
for
his
will
was
active
against
his
obedience
,
and
yet
he
is
obliged
to
endure
the
discipline
and
labors
of
the
order
,
and
thus
remains
in
continual
torment
.
See
,
therefore
,
how
he
deludes
himself
;
for
,
wishing
to
fly
pain
,
he
on
the
contrary
falls
into
it
,
for
his
blindness
does
not
let
him
know
the
road
of
true
obedience
,
which
is
a
road
of
truth
founded
by
the
obedient
Lamb
,
My
only-begotten
Son
,
who
removed
pain
from
it
,
so
that
he
walks
by
the
road
of
lies
,
believing
that
he
will
find
delight
there
,
but
finding
on
the
contrary
pain
and
bitterness
.
Who
is
his
guide
?
Self-love
,
that
is
his
own
passion
for
disobedience
.
Such
a
man
thinks
like
a
fool
to
navigate
this
tempestuous
sea
,
with
the
strength
of
his
own
arms
,
trusting
in
his
own
miserable
knowledge
,
and
will
not
navigate
it
in
the
arms
of
his
order
,
and
of
his
superior
.
Such
a
one
is
indeed
in
the
ship
of
the
order
in
body
,
and
not
in
mind
;
he
has
quitted
it
in
desire
,
not
observing
the
regulations
or
customs
of
the
order
,
nor
the
three
vows
which
he
promised
to
observe
at
the
time
of
his
profession
;
he
swims
in
the
tempestuous
sea
,
tossed
to
and
fro
by
contrary
winds
,
fastened
only
to
the
ship
by
his
clothes
,
wearing
the
religious
habit
on
his
body
but
not
on
his
heart
.
Such
a
one
is
no
friar
,
but
a
masquerader
,
a
man
only
in
appearance
.
His
life
is
lower
than
an
animal
'
s
,
and
he
does
not
see
that
he
labors
more
swimming
with
his
arms
,
than
the
good
religious
in
the
ship
,
or
that
he
is
in
danger
of
eternal
death
;
for
if
his
clothes
should
be
suddenly
torn
from
the
ship
,
which
will
happen
at
the
moment
of
death
,
he
will
have
no
remedy
.
No
,
he
does
not
see
,
for
he
has
darkened
his
light
with
the
cloud
of
self-love
,
whence
has
come
his
disobedience
,
which
prevents
him
seeing
his
misery
,
wherefore
he
miserably
deceives
himself
.
What
fruit
is
produced
by
this
wretched
tree
?
"
The
fruit
of
death
,
because
the
root
of
his
affection
is
planted
in
pride
,
which
he
has
drawn
from
self-love
.
Wherefore
everything
that
issues
from
this
root
--
flowers
,
leaves
,
and
fruit
--
is
corrupt
,
and
the
three
boughs
of
this
tree
,
which
are
obedience
,
poverty
,
and
continence
,
which
spring
from
the
foot
of
the
tree
;
that
is
,
his
affections
are
corrupted
.
The
leaves
produced
by
this
tree
,
which
are
his
words
,
are
so
corrupt
that
they
would
be
out
of
place
in
the
mouth
of
a
ribald
secular
;
and
if
he
have
to
preach
My
doctrine
,
he
does
so
in
polished
terms
,
not
simply
,
as
one
who
should
feed
souls
with
the
seed
of
My
Word
,
but
with
eloquent
language
.
Look
at
the
stinking
flowers
of
this
tree
,
which
are
his
diverse
and
various
thoughts
,
which
he
voluntarily
welcomes
with
delight
and
pleasure
,
not
flying
the
occasions
of
them
,
but
rather
seeking
them
in
order
to
be
able
to
accomplish
a
sinful
act
,
the
which
is
the
fruit
which
kills
him
,
depriving
him
of
the
light
of
grace
,
and
giving
him
eternal
death
.
And
what
stench
comes
from
this
fruit
,
sprung
from
the
flowers
of
the
tree
?
The
stench
of
disobedience
,
for
,
in
the
secret
of
his
heart
,
he
wishes
to
examine
and
judge
unfaithfully
his
superior
'
s
will
;
a
stench
of
impurity
,
for
he
takes
delight
in
many
foul
conversations
,
wretchedly
tempting
his
penitents
.
"
Wretch
that
you
are
,
do
you
not
see
that
under
the
color
of
devotion
you
conceal
a
troop
of
children
?
This
comes
from
your
disobedience
.
You
have
not
chosen
the
virtues
for
your
children
as
does
the
truly
obedient
religious
;
you
strive
to
deceive
your
superior
when
you
see
that
he
denies
you
something
which
your
perverse
will
desires
,
using
the
leaves
of
smooth
or
rough
words
,
speaking
irreverently
and
reproving
him
.
You
can
not
endure
your
brother
,
nor
even
the
smallest
word
and
reproof
which
he
may
make
to
you
,
but
in
such
a
case
you
immediately
bring
forth
the
poisoned
fruit
of
anger
and
hatred
against
him
,
judging
that
to
be
done
to
your
hurt
which
was
done
for
your
good
,
and
thus
taking
scandal
,
your
soul
and
body
living
in
pain
.
Why
has
your
brother
displeased
you
?
Because
you
live
for
your
own
sensual
pleasure
,
you
fly
your
cell
as
if
it
were
a
prison
,
for
you
have
abandoned
the
cell
of
self-knowledge
,
and
thus
fallen
into
disobedience
,
wherefore
you
can
not
remain
in
your
material
cell
.
You
will
not
appear
in
the
refectory
against
your
will
whilst
you
have
anything
to
spend
;
when
you
have
nothing
left
necessity
takes
you
there
.
"
Therefore
the
obedient
have
done
well
,
who
have
chosen
to
observe
their
vow
of
poverty
,
so
that
they
have
nothing
to
spend
,
and
therefore
are
not
led
away
from
the
sweet
table
of
the
refectory
,
where
obedience
nourishes
both
body
and
soul
in
peace
and
quiet
.
The
obedient
religious
does
not
think
of
laying
a
table
,
or
of
providing
food
for
himself
like
this
wretched
man
,
to
whose
taste
it
is
painful
to
eat
in
the
refectory
,
wherefore
he
avoids
it
;
he
is
always
the
last
to
enter
the
choir
,
and
the
first
to
leave
it
;
with
his
lips
he
approaches
Me
,
with
his
heart
he
is
far
from
Me
.
He
gladly
escapes
from
the
chapter-house
when
he
can
through
fear
of
penance
.
When
he
is
obliged
to
be
there
,
he
is
covered
with
shame
and
confusion
for
the
faults
which
he
felt
it
no
shame
to
commit
.
What
is
the
cause
of
this
?
Disobedience
.
He
does
not
watch
in
prayer
,
and
not
only
does
he
omit
mental
prayer
,
but
even
the
Divine
office
to
which
he
is
obliged
.
He
has
no
fraternal
charity
,
because
he
loves
no
one
but
himself
,
and
that
not
with
a
reasonable
but
with
a
bestial
love
.
So
great
are
the
evils
which
fall
on
the
disobedient
;
so
many
are
the
fruits
of
sorrow
which
he
produces
,
that
your
tongue
could
not
relate
them
.
Oh
!
disobedience
,
which
deprives
the
soul
of
the
light
of
obedience
,
destroying
peace
,
and
giving
war
!
Disobedience
destroys
life
and
gives
death
,
drawing
the
religious
out
of
the
ship
of
the
observance
of
his
order
,
to
drown
him
in
the
sea
,
making
him
swim
in
the
strength
of
his
own
arms
,
and
not
repose
on
those
of
the
order
.
Disobedience
clothes
him
with
every
misery
,
causes
him
to
die
of
hunger
,
taking
away
from
him
the
food
of
the
merit
of
obedience
,
it
gives
him
continual
bitterness
,
depriving
him
of
every
sweetness
and
good
,
causing
him
to
dwell
with
every
evil
in
life
it
gives
him
the
earnest
of
cruel
torments
to
endure
,
and
if
he
do
not
amend
before
his
clothes
are
loosened
from
the
ship
at
death
,
disobedience
will
lead
the
soul
to
eternal
damnation
,
together
with
the
devils
who
fell
from
heaven
,
because
they
rebelled
against
Me
.
In
the
same
way
have
you
,
oh
!
disobedient
man
,
having
rebelled
against
obedience
and
cast
from
you
the
key
which
would
have
opened
the
door
of
heaven
,
opened
instead
the
door
of
hell
with
the
key
of
disobedience
."
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