Book, Chapter

  1      I, 3     |            the condition and (so to say) our law, which permits
  2      I, 3     |           He is not God; that is to say, the great Supreme. But
  3      I, 4     |             introducing, I will not say a third god or a fourth,
  4      I, 4     |      prerogatives of royalty, so to say, they be brought on all
  5      I, 4     |             allow himself to do; or say that God has no one else
  6      I, 6     |           attribute of His divinity say, from His supremacy. For
  7      I, 8     |          whom Christ revealed, they say Christ himself new, according
  8      I, 9     |            far out of my way, as to say: If God was unknown and
  9      I, 11    |        CREATOR.~And justly so, they say. For who is there that is
 10      I, 12    |         without a cause, that is to say, without a proof. Thus,
 11      I, 12    |           regard to faith itself, I say that he seeks to obtain
 12      I, 13    |           destroy them. To be sure, say they, the world is a grand
 13      I, 13    |             some better attempt. To say somewhat, then, concerning
 14      I, 13    |       floweret from the hedgerow, I say not from the meadows; a
 15      I, 13    |           shellfish from any sea, I say not from the Red Sea; a
 16      I, 13    |         stray wing of a moorfowl, I say nothing of the peacock,
 17      I, 18    |         conjectural guesses, do not say that God can possibly become
 18      I, 19    |         GOSPELS.~Well, but our god, say the Marcionites, although
 19      I, 23    |      rational operation, that is to say, on the stranger, this second
 20      I, 25    |          its endowments, that is to say, without those sensations
 21      I, 27    |           of their god at all. They say it is only a bad man who
 22      I, 27    |          loved. Foolish man, do you say that he whom you call Lord
 23      I, 27    |         your faith? God forbid, you say with redoubted emphasis.
 24      I, 28    |            cast away? He will, they say, be thrown into the Creator'
 25      I, 28    |            as a glory? What shall I say, too, of the uselessness
 26     II, 2     |             the time of Romulus, to say nothing of that of Tiberius;
 27     II, 2     |            of the Divine Being, who say, God ought not to have been
 28     II, 3     |             as he is to (I will not say) all beginnings and times,
 29     II, 5     |          almighty. But what shall I say of His prescience, which
 30     II, 6     |        exercised by him, that is to say, by the liberty of his will,
 31     II, 6     |      subsequent facts to presume to say that God ought not in such
 32     II, 7     |           full scope, who would not say that He did so in ignorance
 33     II, 9     |          ADDITIONAL TO IT.~But, you say, in what way soever the
 34     II, 9     |         afflatus of God, that is to say, the soul, offends in man,
 35     II, 9     |           Spirit of God, that is to say, God Himself, with default.
 36     II, 9     |           afflatus also, that is to say, the image, ought not by
 37     II, 9     |           power thereof, that is to say, its happy exemption from
 38     II, 9     |            So you have granted (you say) the infirmity of the soul,
 39     II, 9     |       affinity with God, that is to say, through the afflatus, but
 40     II, 10    |           what was made, that is to say, the angel, will belong
 41     II, 10    |         upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the
 42     II, 10    |           holy mountain, that is to say, in the heights of heaven,
 43     II, 14    |          the heretics. Behold, they say, how He acknowledges Himself
 44     II, 14    |            sinful class, that is to say, evils of injustice; because
 45     II, 17    |          counsels. You will perhaps say that there are equally good
 46     II, 20    |           labours. But for all they say, the Egyptians justly renounced
 47     II, 20    |           be a good one; that is to say, his command, when He both
 48     II, 22    |          with the fiery serpents? I say nothing of what was figured
 49     II, 24    | self-incriminating. Look here then, say you: I discover a self-incriminating
 50     II, 24    |             most Good? There is, We say, in short, that evil in
 51     II, 24    |    suffering itself. Then, you will say, if you excuse the evil
 52     II, 26    |             he was ignorant, as you say he was, that there was another
 53     II, 26    |            believe in God. But (you say) God was even then mean
 54     II, 26    |             For this purpose did He say to His servant, "Let me
 55     II, 28    |            of your god. Our God you say commanded a fraudulent act,
 56     II, 28    |           second time. Our God (you say) knows not whom He ought
 57    III, 3     |         procedure of this kind, you say, was not necessary, because
 58    III, 4     |     announcing His Christ to men, I say, that whatever reason impelled
 59    III, 5     |            the prophet, as the Jews say, who pronounced these words
 60    III, 6     |           their phrenzy presumed to say that that Christ was come
 61    III, 6     |            hope of the Jews, not to say of the Gentiles too, was
 62    III, 6     |           respecting Him that is to say, their scribes and prudent
 63    III, 6     |          word and Spirit that is to say, His Christ was despised
 64    III, 7     |         sordid garments, that is to say, in the lowliness of suffering
 65    III, 11    |             birth? Or if you should say, let human opinion go for
 66    III, 12    |             For, to begin with, you say that Isaiah's Christ will
 67    III, 12    |       signifies is come, that is to say, God-with-us.~
 68    III, 13    |             of the East, that is to say, its strength and resources,
 69    III, 13    |       spoils of Samaria, that is to say, of idolatry, because, as
 70    III, 15    |          what has the other side to say in reply? If the name of
 71    III, 15    |           names from the Creator? I say not names which do not belong
 72    III, 16    |             Joshua? It is true, you say. This, then, we first observe,
 73    III, 16    |            not by Moses, that is to say, not by the discipline of
 74    III, 19    |             to the Jews, who should say, "Come, let us destroy the
 75    III, 20    |           temple of God, that is to say, a holy manhood, wherein
 76    III, 21    |            many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go
 77    III, 22    |            with His arm, that is to say, Christ by His mighty power,
 78    III, 22    |             this but Christ? "Come, say they, let us take away the
 79    III, 23    |             beings, still I have to say, See how manifestly He was
 80    III, 24    |         SAINTS.~Yes, certainly, you say, I do hope from Him that
 81    III, 24    |             shall have something to say about Abraham's bosom in
 82    III, 24    |          would vanish instantly. We say that this city has been
 83    III, 24    |        excellent people, that is to say ourselves, first comes the
 84    III, 24    |            great promise, which you say ought to be hoped for; nay,
 85     IV, 1     |            hand to hand; that is to say, I would have encountered
 86     IV, 1     |          pruning-hooks;" that is to say, minds, which once were
 87     IV, 4     |            with reciprocal vigor. I say that my Gospel is the true
 88     IV, 4     |       published without, that is to say, before, the truth of the
 89     IV, 5     |            of the other churches. I say, therefore, that in them (
 90     IV, 7     |             the Creator. Nor did he say, What hast Thou to do with
 91     IV, 7     |          but Jesus rebuked him, you say. To be sure he did, as being
 92     IV, 9     |            his goodness (that is to say, in his permission of the
 93     IV, 10    |          afraid of those who should say, "Who can forgive sins,
 94     IV, 10    |             from the Creator not to say from Christ, even then,
 95     IV, 10    |             be observed, that is to say, if He be Son of man as
 96     IV, 11    |        however, what else I have to say will be found in another
 97     IV, 11    |    therefore to the old (that is to say, to the prior) gospel you
 98     IV, 12    |            for any soul, that is to say, in the matter of delivering
 99     IV, 13    |           is my mother, shall a man say; and in her was born a man" (
100     IV, 13    |         strange ones; and thou wilt say in thine heart, Who hath
101     IV, 14    |            be His. For thus does He say, by Isaiah, concerning those
102     IV, 14    |      necessary one), which bade him say, "Blessed shall ye be, when
103     IV, 14    |          Well, what did the Creator say otherwise by Isaiah? "Fear
104     IV, 15    |          own misdeeds. But you will say, He cannot be regarded as
105     IV, 15    |            Jeremiah likewise did He say: "Let not the rich man glory
106     IV, 16    |           CHARITY EXPLAINED.~"But I say unto you which hear" (displaying
107     IV, 16    |             by His prophet Isaiah: "Say, Ye are our brethren, to
108     IV, 16    |            help me, (then all I can say is,) he has taught me patience
109     IV, 17    |           do not the things which I say?" Could it have been he
110     IV, 18    |        hitherto crude, nay, I might say, hitherto naught. Why, however,
111     IV, 19    |           the Lord's nativity. They say that He testifies Himself
112     IV, 19    |          passage. We, for our part, say in reply, first, that it
113     IV, 19    |          but the Scripture does not say so; and inasmuch as it is
114     IV, 20    |            pass over! What will you say to this? If it be your Christ
115     IV, 20    |           your Christ that is meant say he will not be more potent
116     IV, 21    |        kingdom of God. Does He here say of what God? He forbids
117     IV, 21    |           the Lord's inquiry, "Whom say ye that I am?" in the words, "
118     IV, 21    |        drawn. No doubt of that, you say; but as Peter's conclusion
119     IV, 22    |             indeed, have a right to say, "This is my son," concerning
120     IV, 22    |             apparently" (that is to say, in the form of man which
121     IV, 22    |            in His very glory not to say, in His presence. And with
122     IV, 24    |          house they enter, let them say, Peace be to it." Herein
123     IV, 24    |           the Shunammite; he was to say to her: "Peace to thine
124     IV, 24    |     likewise adds, that they should say to such as would not receive
125     IV, 25    |           His deeds. But he did it, say you, for His destruction,
126     IV, 25    |          created by Him, that is to say, by His Word. If, on the
127     IV, 26    |    addressed therein. To whom can I say, "Father?" To him who had
128     IV, 27    |            inward part," that is to say, the soul? by which assertion
129     IV, 27    |            a new and recent, not to say a hardly i yet developed,
130     IV, 28    |      disciples with these words, "I say unto you, my friends, Be
131     IV, 28    |       course, the Creator); "yea, I say unto you, fear Him." Now,
132     IV, 28    |             following words: "For I say unto you, Whosoever shall
133     IV, 28    |          very hour what ye ought to say." If such an injunction
134     IV, 29    |       mentioned, when He goes on to say, "Suppose ye that I am come
135     IV, 30    |          presence," He will further say to them, "Depart from me,
136     IV, 31    |           uncultivated?" That is to say: "Then have I none whom
137     IV, 32    |         piece of silver, that is to say, man. For he lost him not,
138     IV, 33    |         their help, He said, "And I say unto you, Make to yourselves
139     IV, 33    |        unrighteousness," that is to say, of money, even as the steward
140     IV, 33    |     associated him with God, should say nothing of Him who was really
141     IV, 33    |     unrighteous mammon," that is to say, in unrighteous riches,
142     IV, 33    |        Since the prophet went on to say, "But the Lord knoweth your
143     IV, 34    |       partially defends, I will not say confirms. If, however, you
144     IV, 34    |         would not have been able to say, "Thou art the Christ,"
145     IV, 35    |            in this mountain; but ye say, that in Jerusalem is the
146     IV, 35    |        observation; neither do they say, La here! or, lo there!
147     IV, 35    |         heaven, that thou shouldest say, 'Who shall go up for us
148     IV, 35    |            sea, that thou shouldest say, 'Who shall go over the
149     IV, 36    |         heretic, what will you dare say to this? Did Christ rescind
150     IV, 36    |             his faith: "Thy faith," say Christ, "hath made thee
151     IV, 36    |            respect (I should rather say) that they were a type of
152     IV, 37    |             shivered to pieces, who say that there is no salvation
153     IV, 38    |       actually met their refusal to say what they thought, with
154     IV, 38    |        Caesar's denarius that is to say, His image and similitude.
155     IV, 38    |           His Caesar, (His Caesar I say,) not the Caesar of a strange
156     IV, 39    |            shall by and by come and say, I am Christ," they will
157     IV, 39    |             Now, when He goes on to say that "all these things must
158     IV, 39    |            irresistible: "One shall say, I am the Lord's, and shall
159     IV, 39    |              But what does the Lord say afterwards? "And then shall
160     IV, 40    |          however, (as Marcion might say,) He pretended the bread
161     IV, 40    |            some other edible thing, say) a melon, which Marcion
162     IV, 41    |      understand Him to be; for they say: "Art thou then the Son
163     IV, 41    |               Then He answered, "Ye say that I am;" as if He meant:
164     IV, 41    |           if He meant: It is ye who say this not I. But at the same
165     IV, 41    |      indirect) sense, as much as to say, "You do not wish to say
166     IV, 41    |            say, "You do not wish to say this of yourself plainly,
167     IV, 41    |         likewise answered them, "Ye say that I am," in a sense equally
168     IV, 42    |           pronounced the words, "Ye say that I am," so as (to admit)
169     IV, 43conc|          had just taken place, they say: "But we trusted that it
170     IV, 43conc|         hath not bones;" that is to say, it is not the nature of
171      V, 1intro|              and that I may further say is hastily believed, which
172      V, 2     |           this difficulty, you will say that he therefore added
173      V, 3     |           Creator's purpose. What I say, then, is this, that that
174      V, 4     |            allegorized" (that is to say, they presaged something
175      V, 4     |           of a new god, why does he say that "in Christ neither
176      V, 4     |             Creator "the world," (I say,) but not the God who made
177      V, 6     |          was out of the question to say nothing of any of his religious
178      V, 7     |             But here, at least, you say he interprets the world
179      V, 7     |          courage of our apostle (to say nothing of the Holy Ghost)
180      V, 7     |     possibly seem to have a word to say, except only in a straightforward
181      V, 7     |             What has the heretic to say? That these members of Christ
182      V, 7     |           the faithful (for we will say nothing about his catechumens),
183      V, 7     |          Marcion, however, does not say that the Creator is not
184      V, 8     |            Marcion's disciples, (to say nothing of his angels,)
185      V, 8     |            Son;" and again, "This I say, brethren, that the time
186      V, 8     |              too, I may confidently say: he who has likened the
187      V, 8     |     obedience. Now this law, let me say once for all, he ought to
188      V, 9     |           is by this time afraid to say which side has the better
189      V, 9     |             or happening again). We say, therefore, that the body
190      V, 9     |           sustain my view. Now they say that this Psalm was a chant
191      V, 9     |          from the womb," that is to say, from a womb only, without
192      V, 10    |             on firm ground (when we say) that the next question
193      V, 10    |            body. But "some man will say, 'How are the dead raised
194      V, 10    |            supposing the apostle to say that the soul is to become
195      V, 10    |             next words? "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and
196      V, 10    |          afterwards the kingdom. We say, therefore, that the flesh
197      V, 10    |           is thy sting?" written, I say, by the Creator, for He
198      V, 11    |           other world. We, however, say that the passage ought to
199      V, 13    |            in the gospel that is to say, His own law and His own
200      V, 13    |       ground of sin: "What shall we say, therefore? Is the law sin?
201      V, 13    |             draw a distinction, and say that there are two gods,
202      V, 14    |         therefore, (does he mean to say that) the Son was sent in
203      V, 14    |       whether Christ did or did not say, "I am not come to destroy
204      V, 14    |             the law, then all I can say is, the law has fulfilled
205      V, 17    |          recapitulate" (if I may so say, according to the exact
206      V, 17    |           the other god; that is to say, how can anything proceed
207      V, 17    |       Gentiles, (when he goes on to say:) "In whom ye also trusted,
208      V, 17    |            as the prophet makes him say: "I will set my throne above
209      V, 18    |      mystery." In passing, (I would say that) it is enough for me
210      V, 19    |             God." We in like manner say that the Father of Christ
211      V, 19    |             wherefore he refuses to say that He is an object to
212      V, 20    |           his substance, that is to say, his flesh; just as if to
213      V, 20    |             which is of God." Then, say you, according to this distinction