Dialogue

  1 1|             very intent on something.~HYL. It is true, I was, and
  2 1|             you had not prevented me.~HYL. I was considering the odd
  3 1|               all mystery and riddle.~HYL. I am glad to find there
  4 1|                Pray, what were those?~HYL. You were represented, in
  5 1|          reject the contrary opinion.~HYL. What I can anything be
  6 1|            who believe no such thing?~HYL. You may as soon persuade
  7 1|               remote from Scepticism?~HYL. With all my heart. Since
  8 1|             do you mean by a SCEPTIC?~HYL. I mean what all men mean—
  9 1|          cannot be thought a sceptic.~HYL. I agree with you.~PHIL.
 10 1|          negative side of a question?~HYL. In neither; for whoever
 11 1|             same degree of assurance.~HYL. True.~PHIL. And, consequently,
 12 1|               sceptic than the other.~HYL. I acknowledge it.~PHIL.
 13 1|              you in your affirmation.~HYL. Hold, Philonous, I have
 14 1|               imply the denying them.~HYL. I grant it. But are there
 15 1|        esteemed the greatest SCEPTIC?~HYL. That is what I desire.~
 16 1|               you by Sensible Things?~HYL. Those things which are
 17 1|               intervention of others?~HYL. I do not sufficiently understand
 18 1|       suggested by them to be so too.~HYL. No, certainly: it were
 19 1|       perceived IMMEDIATELY by sense?~HYL. Right.~PHIL. Doth it not
 20 1|               by the sense of seeing?~HYL. It doth.~PHIL. In like
 21 1|               causes of those sounds?~HYL. You cannot.~PHIL. And when
 22 1|          cause of its heat or weight?~HYL. To prevent any more questions
 23 1|              than tangible qualities.~HYL. We do not.~PHIL. It seems,
 24 1|             remains nothing sensible?~HYL. I grant it.~PHIL. Sensible
 25 1|   combinations of sensible qualities?~HYL. Nothing else.~PHIL. HEAT
 26 1|             then is a sensible thing?~HYL. Certainly.~PHIL. Doth the
 27 1|              no relation to the mind?~HYL. To EXIST is one thing,
 28 1|           from their being perceived?~HYL. I mean a real absolute
 29 1|               exist without the mind?~HYL. It must.~PHIL. Tell me,
 30 1|              let me know that reason.~HYL. Whatever degree of heat
 31 1|        greatest as well as the least?~HYL. I tell you, the reason
 32 1|               heat a very great pain?~HYL. No one can deny it.~PHIL.
 33 1|          capable of pain or pleasure?~HYL. No, certainly.~PHIL. Is
 34 1|            with sense and perception?~HYL. It is senseless without
 35 1|               be the subject of pain?~HYL. By no means.~PHIL. Nor
 36 1|             this to be no small pain?~HYL. I grant it.~PHIL. What
 37 1|            material Substance, or no?~HYL. It is a material substance
 38 1|               would clear this point.~HYL. Hold, Philonous, I fear
 39 1|              two distinct sensations?~HYL. But one simple sensation.~
 40 1|           heat immediately perceived?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. And the pain?~
 41 1|               is.~PHIL. And the pain?~HYL. True.~PHIL. Seeing therefore
 42 1|              particular sort of pain.~HYL. It seems so.~PHIL. Again,
 43 1|             without pain or pleasure.~HYL. I cannot.~PHIL. Or can
 44 1|             cold, tastes, smells? &c.~HYL. I do not find that I can.~
 45 1|          ideas, in an intense degree?~HYL. It is undeniable; and,
 46 1|        between affirming and denying?~HYL. I think I may be positive
 47 1|               to you, any REAL being?~HYL. I own it.~PHIL. Is it therefore
 48 1|            body in nature really hot?~HYL. I have not denied there
 49 1|     undoubtedly real than the lesser?~HYL. True: but it was because
 50 1|               which exist without it?~HYL. That is no difficult matter.
 51 1|                any more than of pain.~HYL. I did.~PHIL. And is not
 52 1|               uneasiness, a pleasure?~HYL. What then?~PHIL. Consequently,
 53 1|      unperceiving substance, or body.~HYL. So it seems.~PHIL. Since,
 54 1|            degree of heat whatsoever?~HYL. On second thoughts, I do
 55 1|              make good my conclusion.~HYL. I could rather call it
 56 1|               what think you of cold?~HYL. The same that I do of heat.
 57 1|         thought to have cold in them.~HYL. They must.~PHIL. Can any
 58 1|              a man into an absurdity?~HYL. Without doubt it cannot.~
 59 1|              time both cold and warm?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. Suppose now
 60 1|                and warm to the other?~HYL. It will.~PHIL. Ought we
 61 1|              to believe an absurdity?~HYL. I confess it seems so.~
 62 1|      principle leads to an absurdity.~HYL. But, after all, can anything
 63 1|               make the same judgment?~HYL. We ought.~PHIL. When a
 64 1|             the fibres of your flesh?~HYL. It doth.~PHIL. And when
 65 1|             finger, doth it any more?~HYL. It doth not.~PHIL. Since,
 66 1|           like it, to be in the fire.~HYL. Well, since it must be
 67 1|             mind, than heat and cold?~HYL. Then indeed you will have
 68 1|              without the mind, or no?~HYL. Can any man in his senses
 69 1|              sensation, or is it not?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. And is not
 70 1|           kind of uneasiness or pain?~HYL. I grant it.~PHIL. If therefore
 71 1|              and pain, agree to them?~HYL. Hold, Philonous, I now
 72 1|               exist without the mind?~HYL. I see it is to no purpose
 73 1|          really inherent in the food?~HYL. I acknowledge I know not
 74 1|               displeasing sensations?~HYL. They are.~PHIL. Can you
 75 1|             in an unperceiving thing?~HYL. I cannot.~PHIL. Or, can
 76 1|            which we perceive in them?~HYL. By no means.~PHIL. May
 77 1|         perceiving substance or mind?~HYL. I think so.~PHIL. Then
 78 1|              external bodies, or not?~HYL. That they inhere not in
 79 1|             is there for that, Hylas?~HYL. Because, when any motion
 80 1|           sound itself is in the air.~HYL. It is this very motion
 81 1|               sound then a sensation?~HYL. I tell you, as perceived
 82 1|               exist without the mind?~HYL. No, certainly.~PHIL. How
 83 1|            existing without the mind?~HYL. You must distinguish, Philonous,
 84 1|            really nothing but motion?~HYL. I am.~PHIL. Whatever therefore
 85 1|              be attributed to motion?~HYL. It may.~PHIL. It is then
 86 1|               SWEET, ACUTE, or GRAVE.~HYL. I see you are resolved
 87 1|               philosophical and real?~HYL. Even so.~PHIL. And the
 88 1|            latter consists in motion?~HYL. I told you so before.~PHIL.
 89 1|              belongs? to the hearing?~HYL. No, certainly; but to the
 90 1|             OR FELT, but never HEARD.~HYL. Look you, Philonous, you
 91 1|              and the truth of things?~HYL. To deal ingenuously, I
 92 1|      acknowledge the same of COLOURS.~HYL. Pardon me: the case of
 93 1|            existing without the mind?~HYL. They are.~PHIL. And have
 94 1|             colours inhering in them?~HYL. Each visible object hath
 95 1|            what we perceive by sight?~HYL. There is not.~PHIL. And,
 96 1|             not perceive immediately?~HYL. How often must I be obliged
 97 1|          persist in the same opinion.~HYL. I do.~PHIL. Pray, is your
 98 1|             up of sensible qualities?~HYL. What a question that is!
 99 1|              from SENSIBLE QUALITIES.~HYL. You may draw as many absurd
100 1|       external bodies, or some other.~HYL. The very same.~PHIL. What!
101 1|             of a dark mist or vapour?~HYL. I must own, Philonous,
102 1|           apparent colours from real?~HYL. Very easily. Those are
103 1|           most near and exact survey.~HYL. Right.~PHIL. Is the nearest
104 1|      microscope, or by the naked eye?~HYL. By a microscope, doubtless.~
105 1|            exhibits to the naked eye.~HYL. And what will you conclude
106 1|              one which is less sharp?~HYL. By the former without doubt.~
107 1|             most exquisite sharpness?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. Consequently
108 1|            those perceived otherwise.~HYL. I confess there is something
109 1|       inherent in any outward object?~HYL. It should.~PHIL. The point
110 1| distinguishing it from apparent ones.~HYL. I own myself entirely satisfied,
111 1|               light then a substance?~HYL. . I tell you, Philonous,
112 1|               shake the optic nerves.~HYL. Nothing else.~PHIL. And
113 1|               some particular colour.~HYL. Right.~PHIL. And these
114 1|           existence without the mind.~HYL. They have not.~PHIL. How
115 1|       substance external to the mind?~HYL. Light and colours, as immediately
116 1|               a perceiving substance.~HYL. That is what I say.~PHIL.
117 1|         before in the case of sounds?~HYL. I frankly own, Philonous,
118 1|       external unthinking substances?~HYL. I am.~PHIL. But what if
119 1|              good against these also?~HYL. Why then I shall be obliged
120 1|         object or material substance? HYL. It is.~PHIL. Have all other
121 1|              which they see and feel?~HYL. Without doubt, if they
122 1|               men alone for this end?~HYL. I make no question but
123 1|              capable of harming them?~HYL. Certainly.~PHIL. A mite
124 1|               so many visible points?~HYL. I cannot deny it.~PHIL.
125 1|            they will seem yet larger?~HYL. They will.~PHIL. Insomuch
126 1|         appear as some huge mountain?~HYL. All this I grant.~PHIL.
127 1|              of different dimensions?~HYL. That were absurd to imagine.~
128 1|            are led into an absurdity.~HYL. There seems to be some
129 1|           change in the thing itself?~HYL. I have.~PHIL. But, as we
130 1|               inherent in the object?~HYL. I own I am at a loss what
131 1|           hand and cold to the other?~HYL. It was.~PHIL. Is it not
132 1|           great, uneven, and regular?~HYL. The very same. But does
133 1|           other through a microscope.~HYL. I know not how to maintain
134 1|           which doth not perceive it.~HYL. I give up the point for
135 1|             very swift and very slow?~HYL. It cannot.~PHIL. Is not
136 1|           only a mile in three hours.~HYL. I agree with you.~PHIL.
137 1|     succession of ideas in our minds?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. And is it
138 1|               spirit of another kind?~HYL. I own it.~PHIL. Consequently
139 1|            what you just now granted?~HYL. I have nothing to say to
140 1|              feel is not in the body.~HYL. I own the very SENSATION
141 1|              been already determined.~HYL. I own it was; but you will
142 1|              have any real existence.~HYL. I wonder, Philonous, if
143 1|             in an unthinking subject.~HYL. It is just come into my
144 1|              figure peculiar to each?~HYL. I think so.~PHIL. These
145 1|             as the schools call them.~HYL. They are.~PHIL. That is
146 1|                and motion in general.~HYL. Let it be so.~PHIL. But
147 1|              any corporeal substance?~HYL. I will take time to solve
148 1|           what you have no notion of.~HYL. To confess ingenuously,
149 1|           distinction term SECONDARY?~HYL. What! is it not an easy
150 1|        abstracted ideas of extension.~HYL. But what say you to PURE
151 1|             other sensible qualities.~HYL. Let me think a little—I
152 1|         repugnancy in its conception?~HYL. By no means.~PHIL. Since
153 1|             the other exist likewise?~HYL. It should seem so.~PHIL.
154 1|               and tangible qualities?~HYL. You need say no more on
155 1|               for your first opinion.~HYL. One great oversight I take
156 1|             the object of the senses?~HYL. The same.~PHIL. It is then
157 1|           then immediately perceived?~HYL. Right.~PHIL. Make me to
158 1|            perceived and a sensation.~HYL. The sensation I take to
159 1|             Is it that which you see?~HYL. The same.~PHIL. And what
160 1|                figure, and extension?~HYL. Nothing.~PHIL. What you
161 1|             the extension; is it not?~HYL. That is not all; I would
162 1|            that unthinking substance.~HYL. You have an artful way,
163 1|              the mind, the other not.~HYL. True.~PHIL. And this action
164 1|          implied in a perception may?~HYL. That is my meaning.~PHIL.
165 1|              an unthinking substance?~HYL. I grant it. But it is impossible
166 1|               mind said to be active?~HYL. When it produces, puts
167 1|            but by an act of the will?~HYL. It cannot.~PHIL. The mind
168 1|         VOLITION is included in them?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. In plucking
169 1|             either of these smelling?~HYL. NO.~PHIL. I act too in
170 1|              breathed in that manner?~HYL. True.~PHIL. Smelling then
171 1|               consequent to all this?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. But I do not
172 1|            otherwise with you, Hylas?~HYL. No, the very same.~PHIL.
173 1|           turn them this or that way?~HYL. Without doubt.~PHIL. But,
174 1|              effect of your volition?~HYL. No, certainly.~PHIL. You
175 1|          respects altogether passive? HYL. I am.~PHIL. Tell me now,
176 1|         opening and turning the eyes?~HYL. Without doubt, in the former.~
177 1|           this a plain contradiction?~HYL. I know not what to think
178 1|           whether it be not as I say?~HYL. I acknowledge, Philonous,
179 1|           acquainted with that being?~HYL. It is not itself sensible;
180 1|              obtained the idea of it?~HYL. I do not pretend to any
181 1|          bears to sensible qualities?~HYL. Right.~PHIL. Be pleased
182 1|               that relation consists.~HYL. Is it not sufficiently
183 1|               qualities or accidents?~HYL. True.~PHIL. And consequently
184 1|         consequently under extension?~HYL. I own it.~PHIL. It is therefore
185 1|              distinct from extension?~HYL. I tell you, extension is
186 1|              SUBSTRATUM of extension?~HYL. Just so.~PHIL. Answer me,
187 1|    necessarily included in SPREADING?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. Whatsoever
188 1|             under which it is spread?~HYL. It must.~PHIL. Consequently,
189 1|               exclusive of extension?~HYL. Aye but, Philonous, you
190 1|               stands under accidents?~HYL. The very same.~PHIL. But,
191 1|              must it not be extended?~HYL. It must.~PHIL. Is not therefore
192 1|            absurdity with the former?~HYL. You still take things in
193 1|               legs support your body?~HYL. No; that is the literal
194 1|            wait for an answer, Hylas?~HYL. I declare I know not what
195 1|       relation it bears to accidents?~HYL. I acknowledge it.~PHIL.
196 1|             material support of them?~HYL. I did.~PHIL. That is to
197 1|            which you cannot conceive?~HYL. It was wrong, I own. But
198 1|           grant it actually to be so.~HYL. If it comes to that the
199 1|              at the same time unseen?~HYL. No, that were a contradiction.~
200 1|           thing which is UNCONCEIVED?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. The, tree
201 1|               of is conceived by you?~HYL. How should it be otherwise?~
202 1|      conceived is surely in the mind?~HYL. Without question, that
203 1|              of all minds whatsoever?~HYL. That was I own an oversight;
204 1|           otherwise than in the mind?~HYL. I do.~PHIL. And yet you
205 1|           cannot so much as conceive?~HYL. I profess I know not what
206 1|            those or the like objects?~HYL. I do.~PHIL. And have they
207 1|          appearance of being distant?~HYL. They have.~PHIL. But you
208 1|               to be without the mind?~HYL. By no means.~PHIL. You
209 1|           wherein they are perceived.~HYL. I acknowledge it. But doth
210 1|             say are without the mind.~HYL. True: but, beside all that,
211 1|            the same at all distances?~HYL. They are in a continual
212 1|          whole time of your approach.~HYL. It doth not; but still
213 1|        succession of time and motion.~HYL. Upon the whole, I take
214 1|            may be SUGGESTED by sight?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. He would not
215 1|            existing only in his mind?~HYL. It is undeniable.~PHIL.
216 1|            turned endwise to the eye?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. And can a
217 1|       situated be perceived by sight?~HYL. It cannot.~PHIL. Doth it
218 1|       immediately perceived by sight?~HYL. It should seem so.~PHIL.
219 1|            colours are at a distance?~HYL. It must be acknowledged
220 1|           with extension and figures?~HYL. They do.~PHIL. How can
221 1|             same with regard to both?~HYL. I know not what to answer.~
222 1|           idea exist out of the mind?~HYL. To suppose that were absurd:
223 1|           from what you then thought.~HYL. To speak the truth, Philonous,
224 1|             or by some other faculty?~HYL. They are perceived by sense.~
225 1|            not immediately perceived?~HYL. Yes, Philonous, in some
226 1|             resemblance to our ideas?~HYL. That is my meaning.~PHIL.
227 1|               are perceived by sense.~HYL. In the very same.~PHIL.
228 1|             composition of the whole?~HYL. Nothing else.~PHIL. And
229 1|            Julius Caesar see as much?~HYL. He would.~PHIL. Consequently
230 1|              perfect a degree as you?~HYL. I agree with you.~PHIL.
231 1|            and memory: should it not?~HYL. It should.~PHIL. Consequently,
232 1|             read of any one that did.~HYL. I see, Philonous, you are
233 1|               your own understanding.~HYL. To deal ingenuously, Philonous,
234 1|            certain originals that do?~HYL. You take me right.~PHIL.
235 1|            then like external things?~HYL. They are.~PHIL. Have those
236 1|         faculties or organs of sense?~HYL. Real things, it is plain,
237 1|              from all the false ones?~HYL. I profess, Philonous, I
238 1|         perceptible or imperceptible?~HYL. Properly and immediately
239 1|              or originals insensible?~HYL. Right.~PHIL. But how can
240 1|            another sensation or idea?~HYL. I must own, I think not.~
241 1|        perfectly know your own ideas?~HYL. I know them perfectly;
242 1|            existing without the mind.~HYL. Upon inquiry, I find it
243 1|         principles led to Scepticism.~HYL. For the present I am, if
244 1|            why do you not produce it?~HYL. A little patience, Philonous.
245 1|            not this the college bell?~HYL. It rings for prayers.~PHIL.
246 1|          means to extricate yourself.~HYL. Agreed.~
247 2|                   THE SECOND DIALOGUE~HYL. I beg your pardon, Philonous,
248 2|              now discover them to me.~HYL. I assure you I have done
249 2|              or too nearly inspected.~HYL. I own there is a great
250 2|           know not what way you mean.~HYL. I mean the way of accounting
251 2|             ideas.~PHIL. How is that?~HYL. It is supposed the soul
252 2|              are affected with ideas?~HYL. Why not, Philonous? Have
253 2|              mean any sensible thing.~HYL. What else think you I could
254 2|            not, long since agreed to.~HYL. I do not deny it.~PHIL.
255 2|         primary idea or brain itself?~HYL. I do not explain the origin
256 2|             MIND as things perceived?~HYL. I must confess they are.~
257 2|            imaginable it matters not.~HYL. I begin to suspect my hypothesis.~
258 2|              a reasonable hypothesis.~HYL. I now clearly see it was
259 2|         should be the effect of that?~HYL. But I could never think
260 2|              truth an arrant sceptic?~HYL. It is too plain to be denied.~
261 2|           absurd by all men of sense?~HYL. Other men may think as
262 2|             leave to differ from you.~HYL. What! Have you all along
263 2|             contains and supports it.~HYL. What! This is no more than
264 2|             must be perceived by Him.~HYL. But, so long as we all
265 2|            allow it a real existence?~HYL. It cannot be denied there
266 2|                pray explain it to me.~HYL. They conceive that the
267 2|             whole world made in vain?~HYL. But what say you? Are not
268 2|             talk nonsense: is it not?~HYL. Without doubt.~PHIL. But,
269 2|            obliges us to acknowledge.~HYL. I think I understand you
270 2|             reason, and not by sense.~HYL. You are in the right.~PHIL.
271 2|             your present sense of it.~HYL. I find myself affected
272 2|            you think this reasonable?~HYL. No; I should think it very
273 2|       unthinking, inactive Substance?~HYL. It doth.~PHIL. And, hath
274 2|            properly be termed Matter.~HYL. There is indeed something
275 2|            nothing of action in them.~HYL. They are.~PHIL. And are
276 2|              anything else but ideas?~HYL. How often have I acknowledged
277 2|            MOTION a sensible quality?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. Consequently
278 2|         Consequently it is no action?~HYL. I agree with you. And indeed
279 2|              absurd and unreasonable?~HYL. I give up the point entirely.
280 2|          motions, of that instrument?~HYL. Those I pretend to determine
281 2|        motions, and an unknown shape?~HYL. I do not believe that it
282 2|                even extension itself?~HYL. I do not pretend to have
283 2|               ideas in your own mind?~HYL. You are always teasing
284 2|            what and you know not why.~HYL. Hold, Philonous. When I
285 2|           with the Divine attributes?~HYL. Make that appear and I
286 2|              or notion of INSTRUMENT?~HYL. That which is common to
287 2|             on the will of the agent?~HYL. I own I cannot.~PHIL. How
288 2|     confession, to give up the point.~HYL. It doth not readily occur
289 2|              prescription whatsoever.~HYL. I will no longer maintain
290 2|             an occasion of our ideas?~HYL. As to the first point:
291 2|            inactive unthinking being?~HYL. I know nothing of its nature.~
292 2|            unthinking, unknown thing.~HYL. When we see ideas produced
293 2|          presence of those occasions.~HYL. That is my opinion.~PHIL.
294 2|           without doubt He perceives.~HYL. Certainly; otherwise they
295 2|             of producing ideas in us?~HYL. I am perfectly at a loss
296 2|                and to no kind of use?~HYL. I freely own myself less
297 2|               I would gladly bear it.~HYL. I think I have already
298 2|      existence that you now can have.~HYL. I acknowledge it is possible
299 2|             Matter’s supporting them?~HYL. We have already argued
300 2|              abstract idea of ENTITY.~HYL. Nothing else; save only
301 2|              unknown Matter to exist?~HYL. Oh Philonous! now you think
302 2|            you mean by its EXISTENCE?~HYL. It neither thinks nor acts,
303 2|              notion of its existence?~HYL. Upon a nice observation,
304 2|         particular things whatsoever.~HYL. Hold, let me think a little—
305 2|              any notion in your mind?~HYL. None at all.~PHIL. Pray
306 2|             of your whole proceeding?~HYL. Be that as it will, yet
307 2|             jargon should be treated.~HYL. To deal frankly with you,
308 2|            explain or account for it.~HYL. THE REALITY of things cannot
309 2|             sensible or intelligible?~HYL. Sensible things.~PHIL.
310 2|           PHIL. My glove for example?~HYL. That, or any other thing
311 2|             nothing too hard for you.~HYL. Upon the whole, I am content
312 2|               mountain, or a centaur.~HYL. I acknowledge it; but still
313 2|      possibility of such a substance?~HYL. True, but that is only
314 2|               signification of words?~HYL. I thought philosophers
315 2|               else understands it in?~HYL. But I am not so thoroughly
316 2|               shewn to be impossible?~HYL. When a repugnancy is demonstrated
317 2|           demonstrated between ideas?~HYL. I agree with you.~PHIL.
318 2|             will let me know what is.~HYL. I acknowledge you have
319 3|              can know nothing, Hylas?~HYL. There is not that single
320 3|           know what fire or water is?~HYL. You may indeed know that
321 3|               eyes to be a real tree?~HYL. KNOW? No, it is impossible
322 3|            not what either truly was?~HYL. Believe me, Philonous,
323 3|             like what I see and feel.~HYL. Even so.~PHIL. But is it
324 3|            they are conversant about.~HYL. They do so: but you know
325 3|               that they KNOW NOTHING.~HYL. That is the very top and
326 3|              what it is you call for?~HYL. How often must I tell you,
327 3|            Hylas, is it not as I say?~HYL. I agree with you. MATERIAL
328 3|              I actually see and feel.~HYL. Not so fast, Philonous:
329 3|               Do you not?~PHIL. I do.~HYL. Supposing you were annihilated,
330 3|            termed the LAWS OF NATURE.~HYL. Answer me, Philonous. Are
331 3|         altogether passive and inert.~HYL. And is not God an agent,
332 3|               PHIL. I acknowledge it.~HYL. No idea therefore can be
333 3|              of God?~PHIL. It cannot.~HYL. Since therefore you have
334 3|               from that of the DEITY.~HYL. You say your own soul supplies
335 3|             but know it by reflexion.~HYL. Notwithstanding all you
336 3|            between Spirit and Matter.~HYL. I own myself satisfied
337 3|              he saith, hath no being.~HYL. Yes, Philonous, I grant
338 3|              since agreed between us.~HYL. But, be your opinion never
339 3|           will be of another opinion.~HYL. But, according to your
340 3|              thing that you perceive.~HYL. But still, Philonous, you
341 3|               them by all our senses?~HYL. And, in consequence of
342 3|              confirm it by citations.~HYL. You are not aware, Philonous,
343 3|               guilt of their actions.~HYL. But the denying Matter,
344 3|              some men are so fond of.~HYL. What say you to this? Since,
345 3|             then perceive its motion.~HYL. I understand you; and must
346 3|               inquiry, upon evidence.~HYL. After all, it seems our
347 3|          subject of powers, extended?~HYL. It hath not extension;
348 3|          therefore itself unextended?~HYL. I grant it.~PHIL. Is it
349 3|                Is it not also active?~HYL. Without doubt. Otherwise,
350 3|               common use of language?~HYL. Well then, let it not be
351 3|         propriety of speech a SPIRIT.~HYL. And now I warrant you think
352 3|                PHIL. Without a doubt.~HYL. To suffer pain is an imperfection?~
353 3|            imperfection?~PHIL. It is.~HYL. Are we not sometimes affected
354 3|            other Being?~PHIL. We are.~HYL. And have you not said that
355 3|         Spirit God?~PHIL. I grant it.~HYL. But you have asserted that
356 3|        absurdity where there is none.~HYL. But, all this while you
357 3|               demonstrate that point.~HYL. I lay it down for a principle,
358 3|             this arguing in a circle?~HYL. In the premise I only mean
359 3|   demonstration, have not yet proved.~HYL. I shall insist no longer
360 3|              Hylas, by the PHENOMENA?~HYL. I mean the appearances
361 3|            sense, are they not ideas?~HYL. I have told you so a hundred
362 3|             on our senses. Is it not?~HYL. It is.~PHIL. Now, if you
363 3|              useful and entertaining.~HYL. After all, can it be supposed
364 3|              deceived mankind at all.~HYL. But the novelty, Philonous,
365 3|               in a Christian country.~HYL. As for the difficulties
366 3|               real things themselves.~HYL. Things! You may pretend
367 3|              trust your senses, I do.~HYL. You say you believe your
368 3|            any regard to speculation.~HYL. Methinks I apprehend your
369 3|              perceived by the senses?~HYL. For the present, I have
370 3|           they are perceived by many.~HYL. I own I can make nothing
371 3|               our minds?~PHIL. It is.~HYL. But the SAME idea which
372 3|              the Materialists and me.~HYL. Ay, Philonous, but they
373 3|              it is less intelligible.~HYL. You have indeed clearly
374 3|              a proof against neither.~HYL. I acknowledge it. But,
375 3|                can be sure it exists.~HYL. But, what would you say,
376 3|           what I have to say to them.~HYL. Is the mind extended or
377 3|            Unextended, without doubt.~HYL. Do you say the things you
378 3|            your mind?~PHIL. They are.~HYL. Again, have I not heard
379 3|              PHIL. I believe you may.~HYL. Explain to me now, O Philonous!
380 3|      intelligible, I would fain know.~HYL. Nay, if that be all, I
381 3|          their gross, original sense.~HYL. You have, I own, satisfied
382 3|               this mighty difficulty.~HYL. The Scripture account of
383 3|               Moses into our dispute.~HYL. It is in vain to dispute
384 3|               exist without the mind.~HYL. Pray let me see any sense
385 3|             it in, you only can tell.~HYL. But, Philonous, you do
386 3|            and unintelligible jargon.~HYL. I own I have no very clear
387 3|             all things from eternity?~HYL. I am.~PHIL. Consequently
388 3|              in the Divine intellect.~HYL. This I acknowledge.~PHIL.
389 3|             are agreed in that point.~HYL. What shall we make then
390 3|       derogate from those attributes?~HYL. Well, but as to this decree
391 3|           what you have now objected.~HYL. I must acknowledge the
392 3|            against its non-existence.~HYL. I confess, Philonous, you
393 3|            and the inspired writings?~HYL. And so I am.~PHIL. Ought
394 3|      metaphysical and out of the way?~HYL. In the plain sense, doubtless.~
395 3|               unphilosophical reader?~HYL. I cannot help thinking
396 3|          doctrine of the Materialist?~HYL. This I have already acknowledged.~
397 3|             creation might terminate?~HYL. True.~PHIL. Is it not therefore
398 3|  unintelligible to themselves and me?~HYL. I cannot contradict you.~
399 3|         should be reconciled to them.~HYL. I see you can assault me
400 3|               the creation of things.~HYL. I own, Philonous, I think
401 3|              of a learned, education.~HYL. I confess it seems to be
402 3|       IRREGULAR VISIONS of the fancy.~HYL. I agree to all you have
403 3|             opinion and yet be false?~HYL. I own myself entirely satisfied
404 3|          solidly soever demonstrated.~HYL. You have satisfied me,
405 3|             against your own notions.~HYL. I must needs own, Philonous,
406 3|           that general confused term.~HYL. Well but, Philonous, since
407 3|          substance of what I advance.~HYL. I have been a long time