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1 PreGreek | treatises of Origen. Some say that the book, and also 2 PreGreek | By the letter, so they say, which was written to the 3 PreGreek | created being? We need not say how they treasured such 4 PreGreek | shun all that the heretics say, inasmuch as they confess 5 I | God through Jesus, if, I say, we realise this, we shall 6 I | we shall not hesitate to say that there is something 7 I | Gentiles."2And, "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, 8 I | in thy name? And I will say to them, depart from me, 9 I | 5. But what are we to say about the prophecies in 10 I | power and authority; and we say that if they have prevailed 11 I | were inspired. But we must say that the divinity of the 12 I | when they read these, I say, they will not venture to 13 I | him,42these readers will say that here we have mysteries 14 I | cities abroad, that is to say, the souls which have escaped 15 I | firkins, that is, if we may so say, the "soul" and "spirit" 16 I | understand, he goes on to say, "Tell me ye that desire 17 I | coming out from" it. Why say more? They who are not quite 18 I | the second place, who will say that, in order to escape 19 I | words? And what are we to say about the commands, "Thou 20 I | that which says, "But I say to you, whosoever shall 21 I | and so on; and, "But I say to you, Swear not at all." 91 22 I | mother city, that is to say, of numerous cities, the 23 I | return to our subject, and say. that Jacob was the father 24 I | morality. I should, however, say that as the judgments of 25 II | Psalm. ~1. The Divine words say that the Divine Scriptures 26 II | That great scholar used to say that inspired Scripture 27 II | Scriptures. There are, I say, in creation as well as 28 II | of the universe because, say, we cannot discover why 29 IV | the Gospel, he goes on to say: ---- ~2. Inasmuch as the 30 IV | which concerned them, they say they are rude in speech, 31 V | The whole Word of God, I say, the Word which was in the 32 V | what I am going to say will sound still more paradoxical, ---- 33 V | according to this, we may say that he who utters anything 34 V | words, see whether we cannot say the whole range of sacred 35 V | condemned and forsook. This I say, according to my light, 36 VII | Judas are written, one might say that it is not the Holy 37 VIII | they found me," he would say that the next clause should 38 IX | Scripture; for example, "Say not ye, There are yet four 39 IX | cometh the harvest? Behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, 40 XI | with their feet. These, I say, are they who approve the 41 XII | our inner nature, we may say, are weakened and overcome 42 XII | the charmers, that is to say, by wise Moses, wise Joshua, 43 XIII | pupils of the philosophers say about geometry and music, 44 XIII | handmaidens of philosophy, we may say of philosophy itself in 45 XIII | the Egyptians, that is to say, by lingering in the learning 46 XIII | running away one might say from the wisdom of God, 47 XIII | two parts, and make them say over the golden calf, "These 48 XIII | participation, that thou mayest say not only, "We are become 49 XIV | Prudence, for example, they say is a name with a predicate, 50 XIV | is a predicate; and they say that prudence pre-exists, 51 XIV | men who tell us that they say farewell to the ignorant 52 XIV | language. And if I may dare say so, the ornate and polished 53 XIV | his writings. We do not say this to disparage Plato, 54 XIV | utterances. And this is why we say that they who have true 55 XIV | communicable in words," 249and who say that "from much intercourse 56 XIV | let us see what he has to say next. "They have," he says, " 57 XIV | form. Plato makes Socrates say in his argument with Crito,269 58 XIV | different; indeed, so they say, it was small, ill-favoured, 59 XIV | the sons of men, one might say that Celsus in his argument 60 XIV | sons of men." For we might say that the words of the philosophers, 61 XIV | regard the preaching only, say, "We beheld it, and it hath 62 XIV | lofty mountain, we shall say, "We saw his glory." 299 63 XIV | to the lofty mountain may say, "We saw his glory," but 64 XVI | there." In reply, we will say that you never find different 65 XVI | approved"; so, I would say, he who carefully examines 66 XVI | Jesus. ~4. Celsus goes on to say, "And they even say the 67 XVI | on to say, "And they even say the most shameful things 68 XVI | entreat;306and we would not say shameful things of those 69 XVII | certain philosophers who say that it makes no difference 70 XVII | nature of names. Shall we say, as Aristotle 310thinks, 71 XVII(310) | Hermogenes and of many others who say that names are conventional, 72 XVII(311) | and after him, Epicurus, say that speech consists of 73 XVII | extremely few, ---- if, I say, we get as far as this, 74 XVII | language. But if one were to say,319The God of the elect 75 XVII | invocations. And we shall say the same respecting the 76 XVII | we shall, so the learned say, produce some effect, and 77 XVII | demon. The Scythians may say that Pappaeus is "the Supreme 78 XVIII | of the lowest class, they say, get fools and blockheads, 79 XVIII | have been so bold as to say, "I know all about it." 80 XVIII | to us. Not one of us will say "I know all that Epicurus 81 XVIII | Who would be so bold as to say, "I know all about the Stoic 82 XVIII | moreover, makes many Christians say, "Wordly wisdom is a bad 83 XVIII | The Apostle does not say without qualification, " 84 XVIII | world" Again, he does not say, "If any man among you thinketh 85 XVIII | the same as if we were to say that a Platonist who believes 86 XVIII | power. And who would not say that by a certain Divine 87 XVIII | tax-gatherers and sailors, we will say respecting this, that in 88 XVIII | band of temperate livers, say concerning their former 89 XVIII | perverts, and makes his Jew say to Jesus, "You run away 90 XVIII | their own ignorance, and who say, not what Celsus relates ( 91 XVIII | arguments. I should therefore say that they are more ignorant 92 XVIII | for us than for Celsus to say this, particularly if he 93 XIX | answer also to those who say, How do we think that Jesus 94 XIX | tested by very few. And if I say that a certain faith is 95 XIX | piety, it is superfluous to say more, for more than enough 96 XX | A reply to those who say that the whole world, including 97 XX | souls, and have something to say concerning augury and the 98 XX | Then he adds, "Even if you say that these (he clearly means 99 XX | wise men somewhere says, "Say not, what is this? wherefore 100 XX | made for their uses"; and, "Say not, what is this? wherefore 101 XX | not nearer the truth to say that we exist for their 102 XX | carrying loads. So we may say that lions and bears, pards 103 XX | is consequently false to say that at the beginning "men 104 XX | means give ear to it, will say, "It seems we are no better 105 XX | irrational creatures. Why do I say "irrational," seeing that 106 XX | not be very ridiculous to say we find that sort of thing 107 XX | magic" to the, shall we say? experience, or kind of 108 XX | proverbially indicated. And we say the same of the other animals. 109 XX | discover what the birds say, and that they give real 110 XX | takes that form; for some say that it is from demons or 111 XX | the arguments of those who say that it is from demons or 112 XX | diviner conceptions, I do not say than we Christians have, 113 XX | incomparably great. Let me then say that even though there were 114 XX | of Jove." 413~~~~~~Shall we say that the eagle was a divining 115 XX | Titans or Giants, if I may say so), having sinned against 116 XX | a spirit in the augur to say, "Surely there is no augury 117 XX | observation. I suppose no one will say that because they have this 118 XX | accuses us of impiety, to say that "the irrational creatures 119 XX | a prayer for Celsus, and say, "If these creatures are 120 XX | fashion: "Intelligent men say that the creatures have 121 XX | else the sacred Scriptures say of His Divinity, that we 122 XXI | including metals, as some say, have the cause of motion 123 XXI | in war are not, if I may say so, far from the rational 124 XXI | what Free Will is, he would say that my will is free when 125 XXI | the Saviour says, "But I say unto you, Resist not him 126 XXI | similarly, some one will say that the perishing are not 127 XXI | disturbing, for it seems to say that God gives the power 128 XXI | he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he 129 XXI | Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why 130 XXI | be lost; and since they say that Pharaoh being of a 131 XXI | waive the point, and only say just; and I invite them 132 XXI | God, or the just God, to say no more, manifests His justice 133 XXI | But since our opponents say they are disposed to regard 134 XXI | the sender of the rain to say, "I made the fruits and 135 XXI | the sun were to speak and say, "I melt and dry up." Melting 136 XXI | happens that kind masters say to their servants, who are 137 XXI | Prophecy, and see what the many say who have experienced the 138 XXI | the suppliants for mercy say, "Wherefore hardenest thou 139 XXI | being known, ---- I will not say to God, for He knows all 140 XXI | soil?" In reply, let us say that it is better for such 141 XXI | This is what any one will say who from the bare words 142 XXI | Will. In reply we shall say that we ought thus to understand 143 XXI | restored to health. We may say that if the blind received 144 XXI | and hard heart, that is to say, their wickedness, so that 145 XXI | Our opponents will say, "If it is certainly the 146 XXI | be a convincing reply to say that the Saviour did not 147 XXI | them, as they make bold to say, the cruelty of the Creator 483 148 XXI | assistance, and, if I may so say, helps them by not helping 149 XXI | blame His providence, and say that it explains their unbelief, 150 XXI | take hold of the passage say, "If it is not of him that 151 XXI | deserving blame. If they say that to will that which 152 XXI | And, thirdly, they will say that to will that which 153 XXI | indifferent, that is to say, willing that which is evil 154 XXI | Suppose, therefore, we were to say that such a building is 155 XXI | we could not with piety say that this is the work of 156 XXI | of it. And that what we say may carry clear conviction, 157 XXI | will and to work." 501Some say, "If the willing comes from 158 XXI | agents." In reply, we have to say that the Apostle's language 159 XXI | we could not reasonably say that the specific movement 160 XXI | objection, he says, "Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he 161 XXI | Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why 162 XXI | dishonour?" 502A reader may well say, "If, as the potter from 163 XXI | think any one will dare say this. Well, then, if the 164 XXI | support, I have this to say: If they make good their 165 XXII | Did Zeus, as Celsus would say, assign the Jewish people 166 XXII | or his supporters should say that even a philosopher 167 XXII | the Divine Word. ~7. We say that Moses, who with us 168 XXII | we will suppose them to say, "Go to, let us make brick, 169 XXII | they deserve; some, let us say, to a scorching hot country, 170 XXIII | defend God's character, shall say that there is a different 171 XXIII | us inquire what they will say about themselves. Are they 172 XXIII | general influence. And when I say "observers," I do not mean 173 XXIII | upright conduct; and they say that consistently with God' 174 XXIII | with him; for we shall not say that, because it was foreknown 175 XXIII | the knowledge of God would say, "It is possible for Judas 176 XXIII | this one." If God were to say, "It is not possible for 177 XXIII | of another man, were to say, for instance, "It is not 178 XXIII | We do not grant this; we say that the Prophet is not 179 XXIII | will be. Further, we do not say that he who foreknows destroys 180 XXIII | idle argument," that is to say, the sophistical form of 181 XXIII | summoned; and it is false to say, "It is no good for you 182 XXIII | they are correct, he will say that they are right, not 183 XXIII | instance, our opponents say we may learn both from a 184 XXIII | incredible; and it is as silly to say that the nativity of each 185 XXIII | the masters of this art say that any one who is going 186 XXIII | And the observer, they say, ought to do this in the 187 XXIII | thirty-second of an hour? For they say it makes a great difference 188 XXIII | horizon. For no one can say to the thirtieth of an hour 189 XXIII | of it; and events, they say, are discovered not from 190 XXIII | the contrary to what we say is proved by Scripture, ---- 191 XXIII | the cause of it, he will, say that a malignant Mars or 192 XXIII(587)| proper course,' that is to say, ' retrograding,' but I 193 XXIII | that any astrologer can say what he likes. We can sometimes 194 XXIII | event blame themselves, and say, "It was this or that caused 195 XXIII | If you have anything to say in reply, please say it. ~ 196 XXIII | to say in reply, please say it. ~And the father answered 197 XXIV | your argument, when you say that one of two things must 198 XXIV | but, as reason demands, we say that a single being, a man 199 XXIV | uncreated. But if any one will say that God is separated from 200 XXIV | should any one thereupon say that there is a third account 201 XXIV | whole argument, that if we say matter is the place of God, 202 XXIV | it. If any one prefers to say that God was in a part of 203 XXIV | like water in earth. If we say that matter is in Him like 204 XXIV | God is divisible; if we say that matter is in God as 205 XXIV | this conclusion; but as you say the origin of evil is the 206 XXIV | Do I understand you to say that unqualified matter 207 XXIV | nothing; out of nothing I say, though they certainly do 208 XXIV | I think it is right to say, qualities of substances. ~ 209 XXIV | any answer to this, pray say on. If we were disputing 210 XXIV | substances. ~4. Ho! Ho! If you say that things evil are substances, 211 XXIV | by the substance. Now we say that a man is sometimes 212 XXIV | is derived. If we were to say that a man is what he creates, 213 XXIV | to him be unoriginate; we say it did originate with him. ~ 214 XXIV | unqualified matter, for we cannot say that any substance whatsoever 215 XXIV | for God to create? If we say substances, we have admitted 216 XXIV | if, on the contrary, we say qualities, we have recognised 217 XXIV | question: In what sense do you say that God was a "Creator"? 595 218 XXIV | obvious absurdity; what I say is that there was a change 219 XXIV | Creator. For just as we may say that a house is built of 220 XXIV | built of stones, but cannot say that, because the stones 221 XXIV | Well, then, since you say that a change of the qualities 222 XXIV | had they a beginning? ~I say that these qualities were 223 XXIV | matter. ~But do you not say that God produced a change 224 XXIV | qualities? ~Yes. That is what I say. ~Was it for the better, 225 XXIV | not bad at first, and you say that through the change 226 XXIV | things as they were? Do you say that He had the power to 227 XXIV | had not the power? If you say that He could, but would 228 XXIV | approaching evil; and what you say God intended for the benefit 229 XXIV | more harm than good. If you say that the reason why evil 230 XXIV | fear. If you venture to say that He is weak by nature, 231 XXIV | your salvation; and if you say that He is overcome by fear 232 XXIV | the true gods, that is to say, if by God we mean Omnipotence.  ~ 233 XXIV | commixtures,596we cannot say that it is made of matter, 234 XXIV | on the other hand, you say that matter is compound, 235 XXV | possibly not occur, we shall say it possibly might not; but 236 XXV | will He not foreknow? To say that He will not foreknow, 237 XXV | could the Apostle reasonably say, "I buffet my body and bring 238 XXVI | Psalm, at the words, "Many say, who will show us the good 239 XXVI | own efforts only, for they say that good 624things are 240 XXVI | virtues and vices, need I say anything? for we are taught 241 XXVI | evil things. And they who say such things will pass over 242 XXVI | befalling him, how can we say that the causes of his appearing 243 XXVI | purpose.648And we further say that it is far from clear 244 XXVI | things it is most absurd to say that wealth and bodily health 245 XXVI | that we were content to say that "good" things and " 246 XXVI | perplexing passages. We must now say what the good things are 247 XXVI | And just as if I were to say that the "good thing" of 248 XXVI | handle the words, "Many say, who will show us the good 249 XXVI | pointed out to the many who say "Who will show us the good 250 XXVII | disbelieve, and they who say they believe it, are disturbed 251 XXVII | it sounds very harsh to say, "The Lord hardened the 252 XXVII | better advised than these, say they look upon Scripture 253 XXVII | righteousness. And although they say this, they nevertheless, 254 XXVII | to pluck up courage and say that the Creator, because 255 XXVII | Pharaoh, who was, as you say, a son of perdition, to 256 XXVII | he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he 257 XXVII | it is for Him alone to say what is best to be done 258 XXVII | the mischief is, as they say, deep-seated, the physician 259 XXVII | soul. The physician might say in one of his cases, "I 260 XXVII | of the truth of what we say. "Many are the scourges," 261 XXVII | for his errors, goes on to say, "And thou shalt bring down 262 XXVII | appear righteous?" He did not say, "That thou mayest be righteous," 263 XXVII | towards their erring servants say, "I ruined you"; and "I 264 XXVII | sophistical reasoner may say that because the master 265 XXVII | sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, it shall be more 266 XXVII | 12. "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Israel is


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