Dialogue

  1 Craty|           that a name is either a true name or not a name at all.
  2 Craty|         and also natural, and the true conventional-natural is
  3 Craty|         convention. But still the true name is that which has a
  4 Craty|    regarded by him as in the main true. The dialogue is also a
  5 Craty|          of language as well as a true one: 3. many of these etymologies,
  6 Craty|         affirms that his own is a true name, but will not allow
  7 Craty|          of Hermogenes is equally true. Hermogenes asks Socrates
  8 Craty|       denies that Hermogenes is a true name, he supposes him to
  9 Craty|          to mean that he is not a true son of Hermes, because he
 10 Craty|       surely, there is in words a true and a false, as there are
 11 Craty|         and a false, as there are true and false propositions.
 12 Craty|         If a whole proposition be true or false, then the parts
 13 Craty|           of a proposition may be true or false, and the least
 14 Craty|        and therefore names may be true or false. Would Hermogenes
 15 Craty|         all these names be always true at the time of giving them?
 16 Craty|      other way will fail;—this is true of all actions. And speaking
 17 Craty|           are unknown to us. Less true are those by which we propitiate
 18 Craty|    apolouon); secondly, he is the true diviner, Aplos, as he is
 19 Craty|          explanations is probably true,—perhaps all of them. Dionysus
 20 Craty|       menuon. He has two forms, a true and a false; and is in the
 21 Craty|          still in use. ‘That is a true dithyrambic name.’ Meis
 22 Craty|        make surprising progress.’ True; I am run away with, and
 23 Craty|          and possibly this is the true answer. But mere antiquity
 24 Craty|           insist that ours is the true and only method of discovery;
 25 Craty|          another; they are either true names, or they are not names
 26 Craty|  Hermogenes! would these words be true or false? ‘I should say
 27 Craty|     equally give a representation true and right or false and wrong?
 28 Craty|          that pictures may give a true or false representation,
 29 Craty|       that these were necessarily true names.’ Then how came the
 30 Craty|             But if some names are true and others false, we can
 31 Craty|          them. For is there not a true beauty and a true good,
 32 Craty|           not a true beauty and a true good, which is always beautiful
 33 Craty|        nose. This doctrine may be true, Cratylus, but is also very
 34 Craty|       Cratylus has discovered the true principles of language,
 35 Craty|         as observations made. The true spirit of philosophy or
 36 Craty|         often been mistaken for a true account of the origin of
 37 Craty|           this way discovered the true account of them. Through
 38 Craty|          and intelligible for the true but dim outline which is
 39 Craty|           of mind and body. It is true that within certain limits
 40 Craty|         of things. It seems to be true, that whether applied to
 41 Craty|          assisted to be uniformly true. For the laws of language
 42 Craty|    comparative philology. This is true; but it is also true that
 43 Craty|           is true; but it is also true that the traditional grammar
 44 Craty|           points of view into the true nature of language.~(6)
 45 Craty|          in which it is no longer true to say that a particular
 46 Craty|       adapted to his purpose. The true onomatopea is not a creative,
 47 Craty|       becoming so complex that no true explanation of them can
 48 Craty|        the human mind itself. The true conception of it dispels
 49 Craty|         own name of Cratylus is a true name or not, and he answers ‘
 50 Craty|      means to say that you are no true son of Hermes, because you
 51 Craty|          that there is in words a true and a false?~HERMOGENES:
 52 Craty|           SOCRATES: And there are true and false propositions?~
 53 Craty|          be sure.~SOCRATES: And a true proposition says that which
 54 Craty|          a proposition there is a true and false?~HERMOGENES: Certainly.~
 55 Craty|    SOCRATES: But is a proposition true as a whole only, and are
 56 Craty|     HERMOGENES: No; the parts are true as well as the whole.~SOCRATES:
 57 Craty|     should say that every part is true.~SOCRATES: Is a proposition
 58 Craty|         the name is a part of the true proposition?~HERMOGENES:
 59 Craty|         Yes.~SOCRATES: Yes, and a true part, as you say.~HERMOGENES:
 60 Craty|            if propositions may be true and false, names may be
 61 Craty|           and false, names may be true and false?~HERMOGENES: So
 62 Craty|       there are? and will they be true names at the time of uttering
 63 Craty|       what appears to each man is true to him, one man cannot in
 64 Craty|           instrument.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And this holds
 65 Craty|       kind of action?~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And will a man
 66 Craty|        speak.~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: And if speaking
 67 Craty|       sort of action?~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And we saw that
 68 Craty|       with something?~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: What is that
 69 Craty|        the woof.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And may not a
 70 Craty|           the rarest.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And how does
 71 Craty|         that be justly called the true or ideal shuttle?~HERMOGENES:
 72 Craty|           all of them to have the true form of the shuttle; and
 73 Craty|           their uses?~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: For the several
 74 Craty|        kinds of webs; and this is true of instruments in general.~
 75 Craty|       also to know how to put the true natural name of each thing
 76 Craty|           is to be a namer in any true sense? And we must remember
 77 Craty|      difference.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And the legislator,
 78 Craty| legislator, provided he gives the true and proper form of the name
 79 Craty|         matter.~HERMOGENES: Quite true.~SOCRATES: But who then
 80 Craty|         be well made.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And the work
 81 Craty|        given?~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: Then, Hermogenes,
 82 Craty|        and is able to express the true forms of things in letters
 83 Craty|          I reflect?~SOCRATES: The true way is to have the assistance
 84 Craty|           calf.~HERMOGENES: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Then the irreligious
 85 Craty|          traditions about him are true.~HERMOGENES: And what are
 86 Craty|         race.~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: And do you not
 87 Craty|        grave.~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: The name anthropos,
 88 Craty|         suppose that this was the true meaning of the name.~HERMOGENES:
 89 Craty|         whatever they may be, are true. And this is the best of
 90 Craty|        twice.~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: Well, then, how
 91 Craty|       HERMOGENES: And what is the true derivation?~SOCRATES: In
 92 Craty|         have, and what you say is true.~SOCRATES: But the name,
 93 Craty|        and soul.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And is not Apollo
 94 Craty|      impurities?~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then in reference
 95 Craty|           who do not consider the true value of the name, which,
 96 Craty|         HERMOGENES: That is quite true.~SOCRATES: Then that is
 97 Craty|          of war.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And now, by the
 98 Craty|        whom I am said not to be a true son. Let us make him out,
 99 Craty|           in saying that I was no true son of Hermes (Ermogenes),
100 Craty|         round, and has two forms, true and false?~HERMOGENES: Certainly.~
101 Craty|         of them?~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then surely Pan,
102 Craty|           month.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: The moon is not
103 Craty|      called selanaia.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: And as she has
104 Craty|          what I suspect to be the true explanation of this and
105 Craty|        words.~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: Any violent interpretations
106 Craty|       away with.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: But am not yet
107 Craty|        say I, ‘but if all this be true, I still want to know what
108 Craty|         be explained.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: There is the
109 Craty|         example.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: That may be identified
110 Craty|         HERMOGENES: That is quite true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And
111 Craty|           any object.~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: Yes, that is
112 Craty|            SOCRATES: Yes, that is true. And therefore a wise dictator,
113 Craty|         be mind?~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then mind is
114 Craty|           ungainful).~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: I would rather
115 Craty|        not mine.~HERMOGENES: Very true; but what is the derivation
116 Craty|           e).~HERMOGENES: That is true.~SOCRATES: Do you observe
117 Craty|         off; this agrees with the true principle, for being (on)
118 Craty|     something of this kind may be true of them; but also the original
119 Craty|         despair.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And at what point
120 Craty|          think, the conclusion is true, then I shall again say
121 Craty|        SOCRATES: And that this is true of the primary quite as
122 Craty|        anything.~HERMOGENES: Very true.~SOCRATES: And when we want
123 Craty|        imitate.~HERMOGENES: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Then could I
124 Craty|          and drawing?~HERMOGENES: True.~SOCRATES: Again, is there
125 Craty|      search.~SOCRATES: If this is true, then I think that we are
126 Craty|        you not suppose this to be true?~HERMOGENES: Certainly,
127 Craty|       disposed to think, is quite true.~SOCRATES: Names, then,
128 Craty|       build them worse.~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: And among legislators,
129 Craty|     whether the nonsense would be true or false, or partly true
130 Craty|          true or false, or partly true and partly false:—which
131 Craty|           the man?~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And are both
132 Craty|       when applied to names only, true as well as right; and the
133 Craty|      wrong.~CRATYLUS: That may be true, Socrates, in the case of
134 Craty|         that what you say is very true.~SOCRATES: And further,
135 Craty|         there not?~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And he who gives
136 Craty|           made.~CRATYLUS: That is true.~SOCRATES: Then the artist
137 Craty|         hold good?~CRATYLUS: Very true, Socrates; but the case
138 Craty|          that what you say may be true about numbers, which must
139 Craty|        realities.~CRATYLUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Then fear not,
140 Craty|         skleroter.~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: But are the letters
141 Craty|         sklerotes. But if this is true, then you have made a convention
142 Craty|   signified—did he not?~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if his conception
143 Craty|  assuredly their meaning, and the true meaning.~SOCRATES: Let us
144 Craty|           are most, those are the true ones?~CRATYLUS: No; that
145 Craty|       legislator?~CRATYLUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Tell me, then,
146 Craty|          I believe, Socrates, the true account of the matter to
147 Craty|       given are necessarily their true names.~SOCRATES: Then how
148 Craty|          SOCRATES: But if that is true, Cratylus, then I suppose
149 Craty|          knowing them, except the true and natural way, through
150 Craty|           are saying is, I think, true.~SOCRATES: Well, but reflect;
151 Craty|    SOCRATES: Then let us seek the true beauty: not asking whether
152 Craty|        but let us ask whether the true beauty is not always beautiful.~
153 Craty|           has no state.~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: Nor can we reasonably
154 Craty|          at the nose. This may be true, Cratylus, but is also very