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 1 Pre  |         characters are ill-drawn. Socrates assumes the ‘superior person’
 2 Intro|     expedition to Sicily (compare Socrates in the Charmides from the
 3 Text |          PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Eryxias, Erasistratus,
 4 Text |        approached, he said, Hail, Socrates!~SOCRATES: The same to you,
 5 Text |          he said, Hail, Socrates!~SOCRATES: The same to you, I said;
 6 Text |  yesterday’s journey from Megara.~SOCRATES: Gladly, if that is your
 7 Text |           them, said to me, That, Socrates, is the richest man in all
 8 Text |           The owner of the field.~SOCRATES: And on the same principle
 9 Text |     stranger?~ERASISTRATUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if any one gave you
10 Text |          which was most valuable.~SOCRATES: In which way do you think
11 Text |            By choosing as I said.~SOCRATES: And he appears to you to
12 Text |            ERASISTRATUS: He does.~SOCRATES: And are not the healthy
13 Text |        other.~ERASISTRATUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if anything appeared
14 Text |           ERASISTRATUS: He would.~SOCRATES: Suppose that some one came
15 Text |     moment and were to ask, Well, Socrates and Eryxias and Erasistratus,
16 Text |       ERASISTRATUS: I should say, Socrates, that happiness was the
17 Text |    precious of human possessions.~SOCRATES: Not a bad answer. But do
18 Text | ERASISTRATUS: That is my opinion.~SOCRATES: And are they not most prosperous
19 Text |          ERASISTRATUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And they who know what
20 Text |      Erasistratus agreed to this.~SOCRATES: Then the wisest and those
21 Text |          abundance of everything.~SOCRATES: True, if he could find
22 Text |   treatment, and said, I believe, Socrates, that if you were forced
23 Text |           declaring that the word Socrates began with an S, the other
24 Text |          and replied,—No, indeed, Socrates, I never supposed that our
25 Text |         to us? Said Erasistratus.~SOCRATES: If I can only remember
26 Text |           the speaker.~But truly, Socrates, said Erasistratus, though
27 Text |     something which is of weight.~SOCRATES: I am in profound earnest,
28 Text |     wealth.~ERASISTRATUS: Indeed, Socrates, I have no notion about
29 Text |           be Critias’ definition.~SOCRATES: Then now we have to consider,
30 Text |        would not appear so to me.~SOCRATES: But if he possessed a thousand
31 Text |          ERASISTRATUS: Of course.~SOCRATES: The reason is that the
32 Text |        useful?~ERASISTRATUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And in the same way among
33 Text |           us.~ERASISTRATUS: True.~SOCRATES: What is useful to us, then,
34 Text |      wealth?~But how do you mean, Socrates? said Eryxias, interrupting.
35 Text |          yet they are not wealth.~SOCRATES: Clearly we have not yet
36 Text |            ERYXIAS: He would not.~SOCRATES: And does not this apply
37 Text |     wealth.~ERYXIAS: Clearly not.~SOCRATES: Then our conclusion is,
38 Text |        considerably troubled him.~SOCRATES: And what is your opinion
39 Text |           be useful; if not, not.~SOCRATES: Then if without the aid
40 Text |          cases.~ERYXIAS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: And therefore conditions
41 Text |           ERYXIAS: Of course not.~SOCRATES: And if without gold or
42 Text |          ERYXIAS: They would not.~SOCRATES: They would no longer be
43 Text |          useful to us?~ERYXIAS: O Socrates, you will never be able
44 Text |       them we can procure wealth.~SOCRATES: And how would you answer
45 Text |         need?~ERYXIAS: There are.~SOCRATES: And these men by the arts
46 Text |        and silver?~ERYXIAS: True.~SOCRATES: Then if they procure by
47 Text |     bodily needs?~ERYXIAS: We do.~SOCRATES: Then if these arts are
48 Text |       horse?’~ERYXIAS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And so, too, physic is
49 Text |         to use it?~ERYXIAS: True.~SOCRATES: And the same is the case
50 Text |    everything else?~ERYXIAS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then gold and silver and
51 Text |           them?~ERYXIAS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: And were we not saying
52 Text |     should be used?~ERYXIAS: Yes.~SOCRATES: The good and gentle, therefore
53 Text |        ERYXIAS: That is the case.~SOCRATES: Yet I dare be sworn that
54 Text |           have just been holding.~SOCRATES: My argument, Critias (I
55 Text |         house?~CRITIAS: They are.~SOCRATES: And would you say that
56 Text |          all useful for building.~SOCRATES: And is it not true of every
57 Text |          art?~CRITIAS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And further, the instruments
58 Text |      suppose such to be the case.~SOCRATES: And if a man has food and
59 Text |       CRITIAS: I do not think so.~SOCRATES: Then you consider that
60 Text |           CRITIAS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: And if they appear useless
61 Text |      needed, and good for others.~SOCRATES: But can a bad thing be
62 Text |        CRITIAS: I should say not.~SOCRATES: And we call those actions
63 Text |          of virtue?~CRITIAS: Yes.~SOCRATES: But can a man learn any
64 Text |           Certainly not, I think.~SOCRATES: And will not hearing be
65 Text |        instruction?~CRITIAS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And since medicine frees
66 Text |   medicine.~CRITIAS: Very likely.~SOCRATES: But if, again, we obtain
67 Text |        for virtue?~CRITIAS: True.~SOCRATES: And also the instruments
68 Text |     procured?~CRITIAS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Then you think that a man
69 Text |       virtue?~CRITIAS: Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: But can that which is evil
70 Text |          for virtue?~CRITIAS: No.~SOCRATES: It is not therefore necessary
71 Text |           virtue?~CRITIAS: Never.~SOCRATES: And yet we have already
72 Text |    CRITIAS: I think that we have.~SOCRATES: But then it would seem
73 Text |         needs much consideration.~SOCRATES: Probably, I said, every
74 Text |        CRITIAS: When we are sick.~SOCRATES: And when we are in the
75 Text |         pleasures?~CRITIAS: True.~SOCRATES: And seeing that a man is
76 Text |      desires?~CRITIAS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: But desires are only the
77 Text |         wants the worse they are.~SOCRATES: And do we think it possible
78 Text |        that purpose?~CRITIAS: No.~SOCRATES: Then if these things are
79 Text |      CRITIAS: That is my opinion.~SOCRATES: And he to whom the greatest
80 Text |     things?~CRITIAS: It seems so.~SOCRATES: The argument proves then