Dialogue

 1 Euthyd|     systematized or reduced to an art or science, but scattered
 2 Euthyd|            if indeed this ancient art be not also fading away
 3 Euthyd| professors of rhetoric and of the art of fighting in armour. To
 4 Euthyd|          a new accomplishment—the art of Eristic, or fighting
 5 Euthyd|          wisdom already:—in every art and business are not the
 6 Euthyd|           the great master of the art, ‘What is the meaning of
 7 Euthyd|        required in any particular art; nor again the art of the
 8 Euthyd|     particular art; nor again the art of the composer of speeches,
 9 Euthyd|        vainly searching after the art of life and happiness. At
10 Euthyd|          they fix upon the kingly art, as having the desired sort
11 Euthyd|         knowledge. But the kingly art only gives men those goods
12 Euthyd|          certain result about the art which is to teach it. This
13 Euthyd|          conception of the kingly art is more fully developed
14 Euthyd|        armour, and will teach the art to any one who pays them;
15 Euthyd|     carried out the pancratiastic art to the very end, and have
16 Euthyd|      knowing that they began this art of disputation which I covet,
17 Euthyd|         of an army, and the whole art of fighting in armour: and
18 Euthyd|      chief accomplishment was the art of fighting in armour; and
19 Euthyd|          teachers of it? Has your art power to persuade him, who
20 Euthyd|            said Dionysodorus; our art will do both.~And you and
21 Euthyd|         of their newly-discovered art)—let them, in their phraseology,
22 Euthyd|         medicine, or of any other art which knows only how to
23 Euthyd|      otherwise; for with them the art which makes is one, and
24 Euthyd|       which makes is one, and the art which uses is another. Although
25 Euthyd|         they are divided: for the art which makes and the art
26 Euthyd|           art which makes and the art which plays on the lyre
27 Euthyd|        clearly we do not want the art of the flute-maker; this
28 Euthyd|         that we were to learn the art of making speeches— would
29 Euthyd|       speeches— would that be the art which would make us happy?~
30 Euthyd|          and this proves that the art of making speeches is not
31 Euthyd|   speeches is not the same as the art of using them.~Yes, I said;
32 Euthyd|         sufficient proof that the art of making speeches is not
33 Euthyd|          yet I did think that the art which we have so long been
34 Euthyd|          men, Cleinias, and their art is lofty and divine, and
35 Euthyd|          and no wonder. For their art is a part of the great art
36 Euthyd|        art is a part of the great art of enchantment, and hardly,
37 Euthyd|   inferior to it: and whereas the art of the enchanter is a mode
38 Euthyd|          monsters and pests, this art of their’s acts upon dicasts
39 Euthyd|           go, I said, and to what art shall we have recourse?~
40 Euthyd|        Cleinias.~I think that the art of the general is above
41 Euthyd|        said.~Why not? I said.~The art of the general is surely
42 Euthyd|          the general is surely an art of hunting mankind.~What
43 Euthyd|          I said.~Why, he said, no art of hunting extends beyond
44 Euthyd|         If we are looking for the art which is to make us blessed,
45 Euthyd|      which it makes or takes, the art of the general is not the
46 Euthyd|     further, and did you find the art which you were seeking?~
47 Euthyd|         the point of catching the art, which was always getting
48 Euthyd|        last we came to the kingly art, and enquired whether that
49 Euthyd|         will tell you; the kingly art was identified by us with
50 Euthyd|           this royal or political art all the arts, including
51 Euthyd|           the arts, including the art of the general, seemed to
52 Euthyd|       Here obviously was the very art which we were seeking—the
53 Euthyd|         which we were seeking—the art which is the source of good
54 Euthyd|        was asked: Does the kingly art, having this supreme authority,
55 Euthyd|           you say that the kingly art does? If medicine were supposed
56 Euthyd|    SOCRATES: And what of your own art of husbandry, supposing
57 Euthyd|          And what does the kingly art do when invested with supreme
58 Euthyd|          know that if this is the art which we were seeking, it
59 Euthyd|     SOCRATES: And does the kingly art make men wise and good?~
60 Euthyd|         from the knowledge of the art or science of happiness.~
61 Euthyd|          made a profession of the art, and therefore do as you
62 Euthyd|       more than all is, that this art and invention of yours has
63 Euthyd|        that men may undervalue an art which they have so easy
64 Euthyd|        that the learning of their art did not at all interfere
65 Euthyd|           greatest masters of the art of rhetoric discoursing.’ ‘
66 Euthyd|          and money-making and the art of the general, noble arts?~