Dialogue

  1  Gorg|         paradox or ideal, that bad men do what they think best,
  2  Gorg|         great influence over other men, but he is unable to explain
  3  Gorg|      compare Republic). Like other men of the world who are of
  4  Gorg|          has a sympathy with other men of the world; the Athenian
  5  Gorg|         terms; after the manner of men of the world, he wishes
  6  Gorg|      Socrates. ‘One of the best of men, and a proficient in the
  7  Gorg|         which gives freedom to all men, and to individuals power
  8  Gorg|  ironically replies, that when old men trip, the young set them
  9  Gorg|          with a dagger and putting men out of the way, or setting
 10  Gorg|            may summon all the rich men of Athens, Nicias and his
 11  Gorg|         playful irony, that before men can understand one another
 12  Gorg|           avoid the busy haunts of men, and skulk in corners, whispering
 13  Gorg|            Polus, although learned men, were too modest, and their
 14  Gorg|          what DO you mean? ‘I mean men of political ability, who
 15  Gorg|     frankness in saying what other men only think. According to
 16  Gorg|    represented respectively by two men, who are filling jars with
 17  Gorg|     address to a mixed audience of men, women, and children. And
 18  Gorg|      heaven and earth, of gods and men. Callicles has never discovered
 19  Gorg|         both worlds; he would have men aim at disproportion and
 20  Gorg|          are there which also save men from death, and are yet
 21  Gorg|       pilot? Does not the pilot do men at least as much service
 22  Gorg|       which was directed to making men as good as possible. And
 23  Gorg|           parcel of cooks who make men fat only to make them thin.
 24  Gorg|          Under the rule of Cronos, men were judged on the day of
 25  Gorg|           who are the three wisest men in Hellas, have nothing
 26  Gorg|          proportionably tormented. Men are found in a few instances
 27  Gorg|     reserved as examples. But most men have never had the opportunity
 28  Gorg|        they have sinned; like sick men, they must go to the physician
 29  Gorg|    suffering, instead of improving men, may have just the opposite
 30  Gorg|      destiny of the meaner sort of men (Thersites and the like),
 31  Gorg|          judgments and opinions of men with judgment according
 32  Gorg|            always will exist among men. But such ideals act powerfully
 33  Gorg|           are the parodies of wise men, and their arts are the
 34  Gorg|            and for their own sakes men are willing to punish the
 35  Gorg|          be, the most miserable of men. The greatest consequences
 36  Gorg|            natures, or perhaps all men everywhere, if they were
 37  Gorg|           etc., quoted in Romans.)~Men are not in the habit of
 38  Gorg|      enacted by the consciences of men ‘accusing or else excusing
 39  Gorg|            of his own and of other men’s characters, and he passes
 40  Gorg|      actions, and the ignorance of men in regard to them, seems
 41  Gorg|          the world has grown older men have been too apt to imagine
 42  Gorg|          moral virtue, and to most men the opinion of their fellows
 43  Gorg|        such meannesses, into which men too often fall unintentionally,
 44  Gorg|          state. In order to govern men he becomes like them; their ‘
 45  Gorg|       politician, if he would rule men, must make them like himself;
 46  Gorg| unpopularity soon follows him. For men expect their leaders to
 47  Gorg|      politics, or with full- grown men, seek to do for the people
 48  Gorg|           of the faults of eminent men, a temper of dissatisfaction
 49  Gorg|         they sowed in the minds of men seeds which in the next
 50  Gorg|         the hearts and memories of men. He has not only to speak
 51  Gorg|         mission is not to disguise men from themselves, but to
 52  Gorg|      pleasure for a lower we raise men in the scale of existence.
 53  Gorg|        fashion; instead of raising men above themselves he brings
 54  Gorg|          influence on the minds of men?~‘Let us hear the conclusion
 55  Gorg|         very few among the sons of men have made themselves independent
 56  Gorg|          fiction of the earth-born men (Republic; compare Laws),
 57  Gorg|           small payment for saving men from death, the reason being
 58  Gorg|            which the laws speak to men (Laws). There also occur
 59  Gorg|           which await good and bad men after death. It supposes
 60  Gorg|   concealment: Zeus has taken from men the power of foreseeing
 61  Gorg|          not often made, that good men who have lived in a well-governed
 62  Gorg|   impossible for man to cope. That men drink more of the waters
 63  Gorg|           We have many of us known men who, like Odysseus, have
 64  Gorg|         the tale of the earth-born men in the Republic appears
 65  Gorg|           the question, Where were men before birth? As we likewise
 66  Gorg|       cycle of existence, in which men were born of the earth,
 67  Gorg|        state of innocence in which men had neither wants nor cares,
 68  Gorg|    traditions of the past, because men were all born out of the
 69  Gorg|       experience makes the days of men to proceed according to
 70  Gorg|         you are able to make other men rhetoricians?~GORGIAS: Yes,
 71  Gorg|             And yet rhetoric makes men able to speak?~GORGIAS:
 72  Gorg|          now mentioning, also make men able to understand and speak
 73  Gorg|            say that you have heard men singing at feasts the old
 74  Gorg|          with the greatest good of men and not his.’ And when I
 75  Gorg|        good? What greater good can men have, Socrates?’ And after
 76  Gorg|         and my business is to make men beautiful and strong in
 77  Gorg|          being that which gives to men freedom in their own persons,
 78  Gorg|          teaches anything persuade men of that which he teaches
 79  Gorg|          one or other of the young men present might desire to
 80  Gorg|         the advisers; they are the men who win their point.~SOCRATES:
 81  Gorg|  rhetorician can speak against all men and upon any subject,—in
 82  Gorg|           and having no regard for men’s highest interests, is
 83  Gorg|       children were the judges, or men who had no more sense than
 84  Gorg|           and garments, and making men affect a spurious beauty
 85  Gorg|           themselves, nor do other men know what to make of them.
 86  Gorg|        what you mean.~SOCRATES: Do men appear to you to will that
 87  Gorg|         health.~SOCRATES: And when men go on a voyage or engage
 88  Gorg|        POLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Men who do any of these things
 89  Gorg|            think that any of these men whom you see ought to be
 90  Gorg|             and to prove that many men who do wrong are happy.~
 91  Gorg|           that is my doctrine; the men and women who are gentle
 92  Gorg|          the most miserable of all men, and was very far from repenting:
 93  Gorg|           at the hands of gods and men.~POLUS: You are maintaining
 94  Gorg|           how unlike they are. All men, with the exception of myself,
 95  Gorg|           being the most unjust of men, succeeds in escaping rebuke
 96  Gorg|          the most miserable of all men; and that the doer of injustice
 97  Gorg|        with closed eyes like brave men to let the physician operate
 98  Gorg|       terrify the stronger sort of men, and those who are able
 99  Gorg|         many ways she shows, among men as well as among animals,
100  Gorg|             Nay, but these are the men who act according to nature;
101  Gorg|           which, as the poet says, men become distinguished; he
102  Gorg|        Polus, are undoubtedly wise men and my very good friends,
103  Gorg|       surely do not think that two men are better than one, or
104  Gorg|         their designs, and not the men to faint from want of soul.~
105  Gorg|           and the opinion of other men to be lords over him?—must
106  Gorg|            nature, foolish talk of men, nothing worth. (Compare
107  Gorg|           for then stones and dead men would be the happiest of
108  Gorg|           a figure:— There are two men, both of whom have a number
109  Gorg|         the fools and cowards good men? For you were saying just
110  Gorg|            addressed to a crowd of men, women, and children, freemen
111  Gorg|          Callicles, they were good men, if, as you said at first,
112  Gorg|           the soul, and these make men lawful and orderly:—and
113  Gorg|          addresses to the souls of men, and in all his actions,
114  Gorg|          say with Epicharmus, ‘Two men spoke before, but now one
115  Gorg|        relation to the gods and to men;—for he would not be temperate
116  Gorg|           In his relation to other men he will do what is just;
117  Gorg|           ought, whether things or men or pleasures or pains, and
118  Gorg|      heaven and earth and gods and men, and that this universe
119  Gorg|        mighty, both among gods and men; you think that you ought
120  Gorg|            of rhetoric which saves men in courts of law, and which
121  Gorg|            only saves the souls of men, but also their bodies and
122  Gorg|         not Pericles a shepherd of men?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
123  Gorg|         SOCRATES: And are not just men gentle, as Homer says?—or
124  Gorg|          they had been really good men, as you say, these things
125  Gorg|           be filling and fattening men’s bodies and gaining their
126  Gorg|            proceed to eulogize the men who have been the real authors
127  Gorg|          now doing. You praise the men who feasted the citizens
128  Gorg|             although they are wise men, are nevertheless guilty
129  Gorg|           be more absurd than that men who have become just and
130  Gorg|    CALLICLES: Yes, but why talk of men who are good for nothing?~
131  Gorg|            rather say, why talk of men who profess to be rulers,
132  Gorg|           in saying that they make men better, then they are the
133  Gorg|         any deficiency of speed do men act unjustly, but by reason
134  Gorg|          says that I corrupt young men, and perplex their minds,
135  Gorg|           that I speak evil of old men, and use bitter words towards
136  Gorg|       either in respect of gods or men; and this has been repeatedly
137  Gorg|          the very day on which the men were to die; the judges
138  Gorg|         judges were alive, and the men were alive; and the consequence
139  Gorg|        first place, I will deprive men of the foreknowledge of
140  Gorg|     respecting the last journey of men will be as just as possible.’~
141  Gorg|           are punished by gods and men, are those whose sins are
142  Gorg|         warning to all unrighteous men who come thither. And among
143  Gorg|          and potentates and public men, for they are the authors
144  Gorg|            Callicles, the very bad men come from the class of those
145  Gorg|         class there may arise good men, and worthy of all admiration
146  Gorg|           this. Such good and true men, however, there have been,
147  Gorg|             But, in general, great men are also bad, my friend.~
148  Gorg|           with the doings of other men in his lifetime; him Rhadamanthus
149  Gorg|          power, I exhort all other men to do the same. And, in
150  Gorg|             and in this exhort all men to follow, not in the way