Dialogue

 1  Gorg|  Socratic paradox or ideal, that bad men do what they think best,
 2  Gorg|        by the possibility of the bad having in certain cases
 3  Gorg|         mind, he generalizes the bad side of human nature, and
 4  Gorg|        consistently maintain the bad sense of words; and getting
 5  Gorg|     pupils are unjust and make a bad use of the lessons which
 6  Gorg|        presence of good, and the bad are bad by the presence
 7  Gorg|         of good, and the bad are bad by the presence of evil.
 8  Gorg|         cowardly and foolish are bad. And he who feels pleasure
 9  Gorg|         and he who feels pain is bad, and both feel pleasure
10  Gorg|        degree, and sometimes the bad man or coward in a greater
11  Gorg|    greater degree. Therefore the bad man or coward is as good
12  Gorg|  pleasures to be good and others bad. The good are the beneficial,
13  Gorg|          the beneficial, and the bad are the hurtful, and we
14  Gorg|           and the intemperate is bad. And he who is temperate
15  Gorg|       and can only reply, that a bad man will kill a good one. ‘
16  Gorg|         Yet surely he would be a bad tamer of animals who, having
17  Gorg|         not hear again, that the bad man will kill the good.
18  Gorg|        islands of the blest, the bad to the house of vengeance.
19  Gorg|        are only known as good or bad; they are stripped of their
20  Gorg|   preferments; he despatches the bad to Tartarus, labelled either
21  Gorg|         merely to seem. If he is bad, he should become good,
22  Gorg|       neither very good nor very bad, by not counting them worthy
23  Gorg|     feelings of mankind, good or bad, or even to increase our
24  Gorg| punishments which await good and bad men after death. It supposes
25  Gorg|       for the very good and very bad. It is a natural reflection
26  Gorg|    instructions, and turned to a bad use their own strength and
27  Gorg|         account are the teachers bad, neither is the art in fault,
28  Gorg|          is the art in fault, or bad in itself; I should rather
29  Gorg|        say that those who make a bad use of the art are to blame.
30  Gorg|         a rhetorician he makes a bad use of his strength and
31  Gorg|          the rhetorician makes a bad and unjust use of his rhetoric,
32  Gorg|    wrong-doer himself who made a bad use of his rhetoric—he is
33  Gorg|         rhetorician might make a bad use of rhetoric I noted
34  Gorg|       answer, for I call what is bad ignoble: though I doubt
35  Gorg|          incontinent, owing to a bad memory and want of faith.
36  Gorg|     distinction between good and bad pleasures? And I would still
37  Gorg|         and the cowardly are the bad?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
38  Gorg|  SOCRATES: Then the good and the bad are pleased and pained in
39  Gorg|  SOCRATES: Then are the good and bad good and bad in a nearly
40  Gorg|        the good and bad good and bad in a nearly equal degree,
41  Gorg|        equal degree, or have the bad the advantage both in good
42  Gorg|      must we not infer, that the bad man is as good and bad as
43  Gorg|       the bad man is as good and bad as the good, or, perhaps,
44  Gorg|    pleasures are good and others bad?~SOCRATES: Alas, Callicles,
45  Gorg|          must make the best of a bad business, as they said of
46  Gorg|       what pleasures are good or bad, and having no other aim
47  Gorg|   gratification, whether good or bad. In my opinion, Callicles,
48  Gorg|        of a sick man who is in a bad state of health a quantity
49  Gorg|           which may be really as bad for him as if you gave him
50  Gorg|      good sir? While she is in a bad state and is senseless and
51  Gorg|          and intemperate, is the bad soul. Very true.~And will
52  Gorg|         will not his soul become bad and corrupted, and will
53  Gorg|         him if he has a mind—the bad man will kill the good and
54  Gorg|         nor of any profit to the bad man, whether he be delivered
55  Gorg|          would say that he was a bad manager of asses or horses
56  Gorg|        tricks? Would he not be a bad manager of any animals who
57  Gorg|         not, of the real good or bad effects of meats and drinks
58  Gorg|       then blaming him for being bad?~CALLICLES: Yes, it appears
59  Gorg|        answer, that he will be a bad man and will kill the good,
60  Gorg|          No, Callicles, the very bad men come from the class
61  Gorg|      general, great men are also bad, my friend.~As I was saying,
62  Gorg|       when he gets a soul of the bad kind, knows nothing about