Dialogue

 1  Gorg|      them. Gorgias is the great rhetorician, now advanced in years,
 2  Gorg|     more than in any sophist or rhetorician, is concentrated the spirit
 3  Gorg|       There they find the great rhetorician and his younger friend and
 4  Gorg|        Chaerephon,—that he is a rhetorician, and in Homeric language, ‘
 5  Gorg|       military expeditions, the rhetorician is not taken into counsel,
 6  Gorg|  physician could compete with a rhetorician in popularity and influence.
 7  Gorg|      his rhetoric; not that the rhetorician ought to abuse this power
 8  Gorg| misapprehension of his own. The rhetorician has been declared by Gorgias
 9  Gorg|    learned justice is just. The rhetorician then must be a just man,
10  Gorg|         be abused, and that the rhetorician may act unjustly. How is
11  Gorg|         of course, he says, the rhetorician, like every one else, will
12  Gorg|        did not know justice the rhetorician must teach him; and Polus
13  Gorg|        right in saying that the rhetorician must be a just man. And
14  Gorg|    least as much service as the rhetorician, and yet for the voyage
15  Gorg|         Then I am to call you a rhetorician?~GORGIAS: Yes, Socrates,
16  Gorg|          as you profess to be a rhetorician, and a maker of rhetoricians,
17  Gorg|         True.~SOCRATES: And the rhetorician does not instruct the courts
18  Gorg|       other craftsman, will the rhetorician be taken into counsel? Surely
19  Gorg|         be constructed, not the rhetorician but the master workman will
20  Gorg|       Since you profess to be a rhetorician and a maker of rhetoricians,
21  Gorg|   rhetoric. And I say that if a rhetorician and a physician were to
22  Gorg|        any other profession the rhetorician more than any one would
23  Gorg|      not against everybody,—the rhetorician ought not to abuse his strength
24  Gorg|       good of rhetoric; for the rhetorician can speak against all men
25  Gorg|        if after having become a rhetorician he makes a bad use of his
26  Gorg|        who will learn of you, a rhetorician?~GORGIAS: Yes.~SOCRATES:
27  Gorg|       saying, in fact, that the rhetorician will have greater powers
28  Gorg|        SOCRATES: Then, when the rhetorician is more persuasive than
29  Gorg|         all the other arts; the rhetorician need not know the truth
30  Gorg|     them?~SOCRATES: Whether the rhetorician is or not inferior on this
31  Gorg|       and so he whom you make a rhetorician must either know the nature
32  Gorg|   according to the argument the rhetorician must be a just man?~GORGIAS:
33  Gorg|      and in like manner, if the rhetorician makes a bad and unjust use
34  Gorg|    affirming that the aforesaid rhetorician will never have done injustice
35  Gorg|    shortly afterwards, that the rhetorician might make a bad use of
36  Gorg|      you will see yourself, the rhetorician has been acknowledged to
37  Gorg|        ashamed to deny that the rhetorician knew the just and the honourable
38  Gorg|  natural difference between the rhetorician and the sophist, but by
39  Gorg|         you must prove that the rhetorician is not a fool, and that
40  Gorg|     whether he be a tyrant or a rhetorician, kills another or exiles
41  Gorg|       first, Polus, for being a rhetorician rather than a reasoner.
42  Gorg|     have, and can point out any rhetorician who is of this stamp, who
43  Gorg| SOCRATES: And will not the true rhetorician who is honest and understands
44  Gorg|         he who would truly be a rhetorician ought to be just and have
45  Gorg|     friend, the sophist and the rhetorician, as I was saying to Polus,