Dialogue

 1  Gorg| simultaneousness of pleasure and pain, and by the possibility
 2  Gorg|     things must exceed either in pain or in hurt. But the doing
 3  Gorg|         the suffering of evil in pain, and therefore must exceed
 4  Gorg|     impossible. But pleasure and pain are simultaneous, and the
 5  Gorg|        is good, and he who feels pain is bad, and both feel pleasure
 6  Gorg|       and both feel pleasure and pain in nearly the same degree,
 7  Gorg|      death or wounds are without pain, or that their physical
 8  Gorg|       may mean also the greatest pain of the individual which
 9  Gorg|         avoid vice as they avoid pain or death. But nature, with
10  Gorg|    ethics, in which pleasure and pain are held to be indifferent,
11  Gorg|         the opposite standard of pain and evil?~POLUS: Certainly.~
12  Gorg|      disgrace, exceeds either in pain or evil—must it not be so?~
13  Gorg|       painful and must exceed in pain or in evil or both: does
14  Gorg|      suffering in the consequent pain: Do the injurers suffer
15  Gorg|       Then they do not exceed in pain?~POLUS: No.~SOCRATES: But
16  Gorg|          SOCRATES: But if not in pain, then not in both?~POLUS:
17  Gorg|         excess or so as to cause pain, the thing burned will be
18  Gorg|       deep or such as will cause pain, the cut will be of the
19  Gorg|    painful and causing excessive pain, or most hurtful, or both?~
20  Gorg|        advantage of enduring the pain—that you get well?~POLUS:
21  Gorg|       child, he is afraid of the pain of being burned or cut:—
22  Gorg|          iron, not regarding the pain, in the hope of attaining
23  Gorg|     moment, he is in an agony of pain. Such are their respective
24  Gorg|       the word ‘thirsty’ implies pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
25  Gorg|        thirsty?~SOCRATES: And in pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
26  Gorg|     inference:—that pleasure and pain are simultaneous, when you
27  Gorg|       you admitted, that when in pain a man might also have pleasure?~
28  Gorg|         same as good fortune, or pain the same as evil fortune,
29  Gorg|    SOCRATES: Then he ceases from pain and pleasure at the same
30  Gorg|        cessation of pleasure and pain at the same moment; but
31  Gorg|          be the same as good, or pain as evil? And I would have
32  Gorg|    having more pleasure and more pain.)~CALLICLES: I really do
33  Gorg|   SOCRATES: And those who are in pain have evil or sorrow present
34  Gorg|       good, and those who are in pain evil?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
35  Gorg|       degrees of pleasure and of pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
36  Gorg|          and the coward, joy and pain in nearly equal degrees?
37  Gorg|       SOCRATES: And he who is in pain is evil?~CALLICLES: Certainly.~
38  Gorg|       and evil both have joy and pain, but, perhaps, the evil
39  Gorg|     world so also in another, by pain and suffering; for there