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1 Ion| Ion~ 2 Ion| INTRODUCTION~The Ion is the shortest, or nearly 3 Ion| enthusiasm of the rhapsode Ion. The theme of the Dialogue 4 Ion| Compare Aristotle, Met.)~Ion the rhapsode has just come 5 Ion| admission is elicited from Ion that his skill is restricted 6 Ion| brought home to the mind of Ion, who asks how this contradiction 7 Ion| reason some rhapsodes, like Ion, are the interpreters of 8 Ion| interpreters of single poets.~Ion is delighted at the notion 9 Ion| nothing to trouble him. Ion is confident that Socrates 10 Ion| which he has no knowledge?’ Ion answers that he can interpret 11 Ion| pilot be the better judge? Ion is compelled to admit that 12 Ion| once appointed a general?’ Ion replies that he is a foreigner, 13 Ion| examples to the contrary. But Ion has long been playing tricks 14 Ion| inspired or dishonest?’ Ion, who has no suspicion of 15 Ion| alternative of inspiration.~The Ion, like the other earlier 16 Ion| resemblance may be traced in the Ion. The rhapsode belongs to 17 Ion| contrast between Socrates and Ion. Yet here, as in the Republic, 18 Ion| Also, the manner in which Ion is affected by his own recitations 19 Ion| ION~PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: 20 Ion| THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Ion.~SOCRATES: Welcome, Ion. 21 Ion| Ion.~SOCRATES: Welcome, Ion. Are you from your native 22 Ion| native city of Ephesus?~ION: No, Socrates; but from 23 Ion| rhapsodes at the festival?~ION: O yes; and of all sorts 24 Ion| competitors—and did you succeed?~ION: I obtained the first prize 25 Ion| for us at the Panathenaea.~ION: And I will, please heaven.~ 26 Ion| profession of a rhapsode, Ion; for you have always to 27 Ion| is greatly to be envied.~ION: Very true, Socrates; interpretation 28 Ion| glad to hear you say so, Ion; I see that you will not 29 Ion| to acquaint me with them.~ION: Certainly, Socrates; and 30 Ion| Archilochus, or to Homer only?~ION: To Homer only; he is in 31 Ion| Homer and Hesiod agree?~ION: Yes; in my opinion there 32 Ion| matters in which they agree?~ION: I can interpret them equally 33 Ion| have something to say,—~ION: Very true:~SOCRATES: Would 34 Ion| but when they disagree?~ION: A prophet.~SOCRATES: And 35 Ion| well as when they agree?~ION: Clearly.~SOCRATES: But 36 Ion| themes of which Homer sings?~ION: Very true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: 37 Ion| poets sing of the same?~ION: Yes, Socrates; but not 38 Ion| SOCRATES: What, in a worse way?~ION: Yes, in a far worse.~SOCRATES: 39 Ion| And Homer in a better way?~ION: He is incomparably better.~ 40 Ion| yet surely, my dear friend Ion, in a discussion about arithmetic, 41 Ion| them is the good speaker?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And he who 42 Ion| judges of the bad speakers?~ION: The same.~SOCRATES: And 43 Ion| will be the arithmetician?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Well, and 44 Ion| the worse, or the same?~ION: Clearly the same.~SOCRATES: 45 Ion| he, and what is his name?~ION: The physician.~SOCRATES: 46 Ion| topic is being discussed.~ION: True.~SOCRATES: Is not 47 Ion| person skilful in both?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And you 48 Ion| and the other not so well?~ION: Yes; and I am right in 49 Ion| speakers to be inferior?~ION: That is true.~SOCRATES: 50 Ion| mistaken in saying that Ion is equally skilled in Homer 51 Ion| speak of the same things?~ION: Why then, Socrates, do 52 Ion| for poetry is a whole.~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And when 53 Ion| me to explain my meaning, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates; 54 Ion| explain my meaning, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates; 55 Ion| SOCRATES: O that we were wise, Ion, and that you could truly 56 Ion| art of painting a whole?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And there 57 Ion| many painters good and bad?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And did 58 Ion| attentive and had plenty to say?~ION: No indeed, I have never 59 Ion| and had nothing to say?~ION: No indeed; no more than 60 Ion| when he came to speak of Ion of Ephesus, and had no notion 61 Ion| of his merits or defects?~ION: I cannot deny what you 62 Ion| this.~SOCRATES: I perceive, Ion; and I will proceed to explain 63 Ion| of songs? Am I not right, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates, 64 Ion| songs? Am I not right, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates, 65 Ion| interpreters of the poets?~ION: There again you are right.~ 66 Ion| interpreters of interpreters?~ION: Precisely.~SOCRATES: I 67 Ion| you would frankly tell me, Ion, what I am going to ask 68 Ion| be the scene of the poem?~ION: That proof strikes home 69 Ion| throbs.~SOCRATES: Well, Ion, and what are we to say 70 Ion| right mind or is he not?~ION: No indeed, Socrates, I 71 Ion| most of the spectators?~ION: Only too well; for I look 72 Ion| held by Homer. Of whom, Ion, you are one, and are possessed 73 Ion| heed of any other. And you, Ion, when the name of Homer 74 Ion| but by divine inspiration.~ION: That is good, Socrates; 75 Ion| surely about every part.~ION: There is no part, Socrates, 76 Ion| which you have no knowledge?~ION: And what is there in Homer 77 Ion| lines I will repeat them.~ION: I remember, and will repeat 78 Ion| in honour of Patroclus.~ION: ‘Bend gently,’ he says, ‘ 79 Ion| SOCRATES: Enough. Now, Ion, will the charioteer or 80 Ion| propriety of these lines?~ION: The charioteer, clearly.~ 81 Ion| there be any other reason?~ION: No, that will be the reason.~ 82 Ion| by the art of medicine?~ION: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: 83 Ion| by the art of medicine?~ION: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: 84 Ion| are differences of arts?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: You would 85 Ion| another, they are different?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Yes, surely; 86 Ion| acknowledge that we did?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Tell me, 87 Ion| other subjects of knowledge?~ION: That is my opinion, Socrates.~ 88 Ion| and doings of that art?~ION: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then 89 Ion| you or the charioteer?~ION: The charioteer.~SOCRATES: 90 Ion| rhapsode and not a charioteer.~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the 91 Ion| that of the charioteer?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And if a 92 Ion| knowledge of different matters?~ION: True.~SOCRATES: You know 93 Ion| propriety of these lines?~ION: The art of medicine.~SOCRATES: 94 Ion| rightly expressed or not?~ION: Clearly, Socrates, the 95 Ion| consider and determine.~ION: And you are quite right, 96 Ion| saying so.~SOCRATES: Yes, Ion, and you are right also. 97 Ion| so much better than I do, Ion, select for me passages 98 Ion| of better than other men.~ION: All passages, I should 99 Ion| Socrates.~SOCRATES: Not all, Ion, surely. Have you already 100 Ion| to have a better memory.~ION: Why, what am I forgetting?~ 101 Ion| the art of the charioteer?~ION: Yes, I remember.~SOCRATES: 102 Ion| different subjects of knowledge?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then upon 103 Ion| will not know everything?~ION: I should exclude certain 104 Ion| which of them will he know?~ION: He will know what a man 105 Ion| sea-tossed vessel ought to say?~ION: No; the pilot will know 106 Ion| a sick man ought to say?~ION: He will not.~SOCRATES: 107 Ion| what a slave ought to say?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Suppose 108 Ion| soothe the infuriated cows?~ION: No, he will not.~SOCRATES: 109 Ion| about the working of wool?~ION: No.~SOCRATES: At any rate 110 Ion| exhorting his soldiers?~ION: Yes, that is the sort of 111 Ion| the art of the general?~ION: I am sure that I should 112 Ion| say.~SOCRATES: Why, yes, Ion, because you may possibly 113 Ion| By the help of which art, Ion, do you know whether horses 114 Ion| lyre—what would you answer?~ION: I should reply, by my skill 115 Ion| and not as a horseman?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And in judging 116 Ion| a general or a rhapsode?~ION: To me there appears to 117 Ion| the general is the same?~ION: Yes, one and the same.~ 118 Ion| is also a good general?~ION: Certainly, Socrates.~SOCRATES: 119 Ion| is also a good rhapsode?~ION: No; I do not say that.~ 120 Ion| is also a good general.~ION: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And 121 Ion| best of Hellenic rhapsodes?~ION: Far the best, Socrates.~ 122 Ion| are you the best general, Ion?~ION: To be sure, Socrates; 123 Ion| you the best general, Ion?~ION: To be sure, Socrates; and 124 Ion| master.~SOCRATES: But then, Ion, what in the name of goodness 125 Ion| and do not want a general?~ION: Why, Socrates, the reason 126 Ion| your own.~SOCRATES: My good Ion, did you never hear of Apollodorus 127 Ion| Apollodorus of Cyzicus?~ION: Who may he be?~SOCRATES: 128 Ion| And will they not choose Ion the Ephesian to be their 129 Ion| mean city? But, indeed, Ion, if you are correct in saying 130 Ion| dishonest or inspired?~ION: There is a great difference, 131 Ion| nobler.~SOCRATES: Then, Ion, I shall assume the nobler