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1 Ion| Ion~
2 Ion| INTRODUCTION~The Ion is the shortest, or nearly
3 Ion| enthusiasm of the rhapsode Ion. The theme of the Dialogue
4 Ion| Compare Aristotle, Met.)~Ion the rhapsode has just come
5 Ion| admission is elicited from Ion that his skill is restricted
6 Ion| brought home to the mind of Ion, who asks how this contradiction
7 Ion| reason some rhapsodes, like Ion, are the interpreters of
8 Ion| interpreters of single poets.~Ion is delighted at the notion
9 Ion| nothing to trouble him. Ion is confident that Socrates
10 Ion| which he has no knowledge?’ Ion answers that he can interpret
11 Ion| pilot be the better judge? Ion is compelled to admit that
12 Ion| once appointed a general?’ Ion replies that he is a foreigner,
13 Ion| examples to the contrary. But Ion has long been playing tricks
14 Ion| inspired or dishonest?’ Ion, who has no suspicion of
15 Ion| alternative of inspiration.~The Ion, like the other earlier
16 Ion| resemblance may be traced in the Ion. The rhapsode belongs to
17 Ion| contrast between Socrates and Ion. Yet here, as in the Republic,
18 Ion| Also, the manner in which Ion is affected by his own recitations
19 Ion| ION~PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:
20 Ion| THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Ion.~SOCRATES: Welcome, Ion.
21 Ion| Ion.~SOCRATES: Welcome, Ion. Are you from your native
22 Ion| native city of Ephesus?~ION: No, Socrates; but from
23 Ion| rhapsodes at the festival?~ION: O yes; and of all sorts
24 Ion| competitors—and did you succeed?~ION: I obtained the first prize
25 Ion| for us at the Panathenaea.~ION: And I will, please heaven.~
26 Ion| profession of a rhapsode, Ion; for you have always to
27 Ion| is greatly to be envied.~ION: Very true, Socrates; interpretation
28 Ion| glad to hear you say so, Ion; I see that you will not
29 Ion| to acquaint me with them.~ION: Certainly, Socrates; and
30 Ion| Archilochus, or to Homer only?~ION: To Homer only; he is in
31 Ion| Homer and Hesiod agree?~ION: Yes; in my opinion there
32 Ion| matters in which they agree?~ION: I can interpret them equally
33 Ion| have something to say,—~ION: Very true:~SOCRATES: Would
34 Ion| but when they disagree?~ION: A prophet.~SOCRATES: And
35 Ion| well as when they agree?~ION: Clearly.~SOCRATES: But
36 Ion| themes of which Homer sings?~ION: Very true, Socrates.~SOCRATES:
37 Ion| poets sing of the same?~ION: Yes, Socrates; but not
38 Ion| SOCRATES: What, in a worse way?~ION: Yes, in a far worse.~SOCRATES:
39 Ion| And Homer in a better way?~ION: He is incomparably better.~
40 Ion| yet surely, my dear friend Ion, in a discussion about arithmetic,
41 Ion| them is the good speaker?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And he who
42 Ion| judges of the bad speakers?~ION: The same.~SOCRATES: And
43 Ion| will be the arithmetician?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Well, and
44 Ion| the worse, or the same?~ION: Clearly the same.~SOCRATES:
45 Ion| he, and what is his name?~ION: The physician.~SOCRATES:
46 Ion| topic is being discussed.~ION: True.~SOCRATES: Is not
47 Ion| person skilful in both?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And you
48 Ion| and the other not so well?~ION: Yes; and I am right in
49 Ion| speakers to be inferior?~ION: That is true.~SOCRATES:
50 Ion| mistaken in saying that Ion is equally skilled in Homer
51 Ion| speak of the same things?~ION: Why then, Socrates, do
52 Ion| for poetry is a whole.~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And when
53 Ion| me to explain my meaning, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates;
54 Ion| explain my meaning, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates;
55 Ion| SOCRATES: O that we were wise, Ion, and that you could truly
56 Ion| art of painting a whole?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And there
57 Ion| many painters good and bad?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And did
58 Ion| attentive and had plenty to say?~ION: No indeed, I have never
59 Ion| and had nothing to say?~ION: No indeed; no more than
60 Ion| when he came to speak of Ion of Ephesus, and had no notion
61 Ion| of his merits or defects?~ION: I cannot deny what you
62 Ion| this.~SOCRATES: I perceive, Ion; and I will proceed to explain
63 Ion| of songs? Am I not right, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates,
64 Ion| songs? Am I not right, Ion?~ION: Yes, indeed, Socrates,
65 Ion| interpreters of the poets?~ION: There again you are right.~
66 Ion| interpreters of interpreters?~ION: Precisely.~SOCRATES: I
67 Ion| you would frankly tell me, Ion, what I am going to ask
68 Ion| be the scene of the poem?~ION: That proof strikes home
69 Ion| throbs.~SOCRATES: Well, Ion, and what are we to say
70 Ion| right mind or is he not?~ION: No indeed, Socrates, I
71 Ion| most of the spectators?~ION: Only too well; for I look
72 Ion| held by Homer. Of whom, Ion, you are one, and are possessed
73 Ion| heed of any other. And you, Ion, when the name of Homer
74 Ion| but by divine inspiration.~ION: That is good, Socrates;
75 Ion| surely about every part.~ION: There is no part, Socrates,
76 Ion| which you have no knowledge?~ION: And what is there in Homer
77 Ion| lines I will repeat them.~ION: I remember, and will repeat
78 Ion| in honour of Patroclus.~ION: ‘Bend gently,’ he says, ‘
79 Ion| SOCRATES: Enough. Now, Ion, will the charioteer or
80 Ion| propriety of these lines?~ION: The charioteer, clearly.~
81 Ion| there be any other reason?~ION: No, that will be the reason.~
82 Ion| by the art of medicine?~ION: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
83 Ion| by the art of medicine?~ION: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
84 Ion| are differences of arts?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: You would
85 Ion| another, they are different?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Yes, surely;
86 Ion| acknowledge that we did?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Tell me,
87 Ion| other subjects of knowledge?~ION: That is my opinion, Socrates.~
88 Ion| and doings of that art?~ION: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then
89 Ion| you or the charioteer?~ION: The charioteer.~SOCRATES:
90 Ion| rhapsode and not a charioteer.~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the
91 Ion| that of the charioteer?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And if a
92 Ion| knowledge of different matters?~ION: True.~SOCRATES: You know
93 Ion| propriety of these lines?~ION: The art of medicine.~SOCRATES:
94 Ion| rightly expressed or not?~ION: Clearly, Socrates, the
95 Ion| consider and determine.~ION: And you are quite right,
96 Ion| saying so.~SOCRATES: Yes, Ion, and you are right also.
97 Ion| so much better than I do, Ion, select for me passages
98 Ion| of better than other men.~ION: All passages, I should
99 Ion| Socrates.~SOCRATES: Not all, Ion, surely. Have you already
100 Ion| to have a better memory.~ION: Why, what am I forgetting?~
101 Ion| the art of the charioteer?~ION: Yes, I remember.~SOCRATES:
102 Ion| different subjects of knowledge?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then upon
103 Ion| will not know everything?~ION: I should exclude certain
104 Ion| which of them will he know?~ION: He will know what a man
105 Ion| sea-tossed vessel ought to say?~ION: No; the pilot will know
106 Ion| a sick man ought to say?~ION: He will not.~SOCRATES:
107 Ion| what a slave ought to say?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: Suppose
108 Ion| soothe the infuriated cows?~ION: No, he will not.~SOCRATES:
109 Ion| about the working of wool?~ION: No.~SOCRATES: At any rate
110 Ion| exhorting his soldiers?~ION: Yes, that is the sort of
111 Ion| the art of the general?~ION: I am sure that I should
112 Ion| say.~SOCRATES: Why, yes, Ion, because you may possibly
113 Ion| By the help of which art, Ion, do you know whether horses
114 Ion| lyre—what would you answer?~ION: I should reply, by my skill
115 Ion| and not as a horseman?~ION: Yes.~SOCRATES: And in judging
116 Ion| a general or a rhapsode?~ION: To me there appears to
117 Ion| the general is the same?~ION: Yes, one and the same.~
118 Ion| is also a good general?~ION: Certainly, Socrates.~SOCRATES:
119 Ion| is also a good rhapsode?~ION: No; I do not say that.~
120 Ion| is also a good general.~ION: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
121 Ion| best of Hellenic rhapsodes?~ION: Far the best, Socrates.~
122 Ion| are you the best general, Ion?~ION: To be sure, Socrates;
123 Ion| you the best general, Ion?~ION: To be sure, Socrates; and
124 Ion| master.~SOCRATES: But then, Ion, what in the name of goodness
125 Ion| and do not want a general?~ION: Why, Socrates, the reason
126 Ion| your own.~SOCRATES: My good Ion, did you never hear of Apollodorus
127 Ion| Apollodorus of Cyzicus?~ION: Who may he be?~SOCRATES:
128 Ion| And will they not choose Ion the Ephesian to be their
129 Ion| mean city? But, indeed, Ion, if you are correct in saying
130 Ion| dishonest or inspired?~ION: There is a great difference,
131 Ion| nobler.~SOCRATES: Then, Ion, I shall assume the nobler