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  1 1 |            converse.~Athenian. Very good.~Cleinias. Very good, indeed;
  2 1 |           Very good.~Cleinias. Very good, indeed; and still better
  3 1 |     defeated in battle; for all the good things of the conquered
  4 1 |          with me.~Megillus. Why, my good friend, how could any Lacedaemonian
  5 1 |         privately his own.~(Ath. My good sir, what do you mean?)—~
  6 1 |          own superior and therefore good.~Cleinias. Your remark,
  7 1 |           the bad and appointed the good to govern themselves; or
  8 1 |             who, while allowing the good to govern, let the bad live,
  9 1 |         peace with one another, and good will, are best. Nor is the
 10 1 |             be regarded as a really good thing, but as a necessity;
 11 1 |            men, and possessed every good (and then he gives a whole
 12 1 |        proves that you are wise and good, and I and Megillus and
 13 1 |       Evidently.~Athenian. They are good; but we say that there are
 14 1 |          man cannot be faithful and good in civil strife without
 15 1 |           they confer every sort of good. Now goods are of two kinds:
 16 1 |     determine and teach what is the good and evil of the condition
 17 1 |           to virtue.~Megillus. Very good; and suppose that you first
 18 1 |           the prospect of getting a good beating; there is, too,
 19 1 |           search after the true and good, one of us may have to censure
 20 1 |            that you have reasonably good laws, one of the best of
 21 1 |         agree that the laws are all good, for they came from God;
 22 1 |       better for it.~Athenian. Very good; however, I am not going
 23 1 |              the regimen which does good in one way does harm in
 24 1 |            meals do a great deal of good, and yet they are a source
 25 1 |        before us.~Athenian. Nay, my good friend, do not say that;
 26 1 |           permit me to tell you how good and bad are to be estimated
 27 1 |           to be praising wheat as a good kind of food, whereupon
 28 1 |          knowledge in order to be a good captain, whether he is sea–
 29 1 |              I say that he is not a good captain if, although he
 30 1 |          wise, only by some special good fortune will he be saved
 31 1 |            It will be by a singular good fortune that he is saved.~
 32 1 |       advantage of an army having a good leader—he will give victory
 33 1 |             or states gain from the good management of a feast; and
 34 1 |           you to tell me what great good will be effected, supposing
 35 1 |          you mean to ask what great good accrues to the state from
 36 1 |             we cannot deny that the good is not very great in any
 37 1 |          But if you ask what is the good of education in general,
 38 1 |           easy—that education makes good men, and that good men act
 39 1 |            makes good men, and that good men act nobly, and conquer
 40 1 |            battle, because they are good. Education certainly gives
 41 1 |             to hear.~Athenian. Very good; I will try to find a way
 42 1 |        saying is quite true, that a good Athenian is more than ordinarily
 43 1 |             is more than ordinarily good, for he is the only man
 44 1 |             is freely and genuinely good by the divine inspiration
 45 1 |          view, any one who would be good at anything must practise
 46 1 |          example, he who is to be a good builder, should play at
 47 1 |           houses; he who is to be a good husbandman, at tilling the
 48 1 |          has just been granted hold good: to wit, that those who
 49 1 |           educated generally become good men. Neither must we cast
 50 1 |         agreed before that they are good men who are able to rule
 51 1 |             is reflection about the good or evil of them, and this,
 52 1 |           discourse.~Athenian. Very good; let us proceed with any
 53 1 |             benefit?~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. And we may conceive
 54 1 |             supposing that the same good effect follows?~Cleinias.
 55 1 |     legislator and every one who is good for anything, hold this
 56 2 |           add that he sings what is good and dances what is good?~
 57 2 |             good and dances what is good?~Cleinias. Let us make the
 58 2 |           suppose that he knows the good to be good, and the bad
 59 2 |             he knows the good to be good, and the bad to be bad,
 60 2 |       manner, but has no delight in good or hatred of evil; or he
 61 2 |          pain, and welcomes what is good, and is offended at what
 62 2 |            If we three know what is good in song and dance, then
 63 2 |             faces differ?~Athenian. Good, my friend; I may observe,
 64 2 |             melody or figure having good rhythm or good harmony—the
 65 2 |        figure having good rhythm or good harmony—the term is correct
 66 2 |          melody or figure having a “good colour,” as the masters
 67 2 |       virtue, are without exception good, and those which are expressive
 68 2 |             vice are the reverse of good.~Cleinias. Your suggestion
 69 2 |    imitations are pleasant, but not good. And in the presence of
 70 2 |             dances or songs, or any good done to the approver of
 71 2 |       praise them. And what greater good or evil can any destiny
 72 2 |            Then in a city which has good laws, or in future ages
 73 2 |           And when rejoicing in our good fortune, we are unable to
 74 2 |          and brave and in every way good men.~Cleinias. But do you
 75 2 |          your poets to say that the good man, if he be temperate
 76 2 |          other thing that is called good ever be his. For the goods
 77 2 |           many speak are not really good: first in the catalogue
 78 2 |            and that goods are truly good to the good, but evil to
 79 2 |         goods are truly good to the good, but evil to the evil. Let
 80 2 |            general. For tell me, my good friends, by Zeus and Apollo
 81 2 |          not mistaken, what is that good and noble principle in life
 82 2 |      superior to pleasure. For what good can the just man have which
 83 2 |           from Gods and men, though good and noble, are nevertheless
 84 2 |        there being no wrong done is good and honourable, although
 85 2 |       pleasant and the just and the good and the noble has an excellent
 86 2 |          lie to the young for their good, could not invent a more
 87 2 |         must be shown that there is good reason for the proposal.~
 88 2 |             which are to do so much good? Shall we be so foolish
 89 2 |            will make him not only a good soldier, but also a governor
 90 2 |        intentionally, if at all, my good friend; but whither the
 91 2 |             and the profitable, the good and the noble, are qualities
 92 2 |         when doing neither harm nor good in any degree worth speaking
 93 2 |        which is an imitation of the good.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian.
 94 2 |         able to distinguish what is good and bad? My statement is
 95 2 |        welcome with dutiful delight good dispositions. Having such
 96 2 |            whether the imitation is good or not, though he can hardly
 97 2 |           of their youth, viz., the good legislator; and that he
 98 2 |        would you like?~Cleinias. My good friend, when you are talking
 99 2 |             in which those who have good sense and good laws ought
100 2 |             who have good sense and good laws ought not to drink
101 3 |            and their transitions to good or evil?~Cleinias. What
102 3 |          government.~Cleinias. Very good. You shall endeavour to
103 3 |           that time.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Would not all
104 3 |             mean?~Athenian. Why, my good friend, how can we possibly
105 3 |             knew nothing of all the good and evil of cities could
106 3 |            feeling of affection and good–will towards one another;
107 3 |             And therefore they were good, and also because they were
108 3 |           when they were told about good and evil, they in their
109 3 |             legislation would be as good and full as the present,
110 3 |              Athenian. But then, my good friends, why did the settlement
111 3 |            have had?~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. Suppose any one
112 3 |           you were arguing that the good lawgiver ought to order
113 3 |           nevertheless thinks to be good and noble, and loves and
114 3 |           in the soul and yet do no good, but rather the reverse
115 3 |           but rather the reverse of good. All these cases I term
116 3 |             the Gods and a token of good fortune: he on whom the
117 3 |              Very likely.~Athenian. Good; and what measures ought
118 3 |          two others were so utterly good for nothing that the one
119 3 |          them, who was able to give good counsel, he imparted his
120 3 |           fortunate.~Athenian. Very good; a quality, which is a mere
121 3 |          ourselves.~Megillus. Very; good.~Athenian. We maintain,
122 3 |     despotism among them.~Megillus. Good.~Athenian. Next, we must
123 3 |    authority is not by any means so good as government by others
124 3 |             reverence, of which the good man ought to be a willing
125 3 |             previous arguments have good deal to say for themselves.~
126 3 |          from a stick. Such was the good order which the multitude
127 3 |          has no truth, and, whether good or bad, can only be judged
128 3 |           they had understanding of good and bad in music and poetry;
129 3 |           been said?~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. This, then, has
130 3 |            contemplation.~Athenian. Good news, Cleinias; if Megillus
131 4 |            say, the harbours are so good. Still we may be content.
132 4 |              Athenian. Remember, my good friend, what I said at first
133 4 |             to promote virtue, were good; but in that they regarded
134 4 |         boldly; and that there were good reasons, and plenty of them,
135 4 |            you say so.~Athenian. My good friend, I am afraid that
136 4 |          tyrant be young and have a good memory; let him be quick
137 4 |       virtue, if there is to be any good in them.”~Cleinias. I suppose,
138 4 |         quick at learning, having a good memory, courageous, of a
139 4 |         must add fortunate; and his good fortune must be that he
140 4 |        tyranny, and originates in a good lawgiver and an orderly
141 4 |         repeated what I am saying a good many times; but I suppose
142 4 |       difficulty for a city to have good laws, but that there is
143 4 |            which are passed for the good of particular classes and
144 4 |             classes and not for the good of the whole state. States
145 4 |            all sayings—that for the good man to offer sacrifice to
146 4 |            impure soul, whereas the good is pure; and from one who
147 4 |            who is polluted, neither good man nor God can without
148 4 |           days for the most part in good hope. And how a man ought
149 4 |            with more gentleness and good–will to the precepts addressed
150 4 |            of mankind to be made as good, or as quickly good, as
151 4 |         made as good, or as quickly good, as possible. The case of
152 4 |            one is not only twice as good in practical usefulness
153 4 |             that, by reason of this good–will, he might more intelligently
154 4 |            in order.~Cleinias. Very good.~
155 5 |              for honour is a divine good, and no evil thing is honourable;
156 5 |         that life at any price is a good, does he honour her, but
157 5 |     estimate the base and evil, the good and noble, according to
158 5 |             the conversation of the good, and be cut off from them,
159 5 |        track out and find the chief good; which when a man has found,
160 5 |             to him, will have their good–will in the intercourse
161 5 |           is the beginning of every good thing, both to Gods and
162 5 |            in a friendly way of any good, is deserving of blame:
163 5 |             deserving of blame: the good, however, which he has,
164 5 |           out; wherefore I say that good men ought, when occasion
165 5 |            wrongly of the just, the good, and the honourable, and
166 5 |           whether the genius of his good fortune remains with him,
167 5 |           ever hope, in the case of good men, that whatever afflictions
168 5 |      healthy and unhealthy, and the good breed and the bad breed,
169 5 |           them from coming; but the good we will to the utmost of
170 5 |         open arms.~Another piece of good fortune must not be forgotten,
171 5 |             for there is no greater good in a state than that the
172 5 |            regards number and every good and noble quality. And,
173 5 |             a man of experience and good habits. For in such an order
174 5 |       declare to be the object of a good legislator, namely, that
175 5 |            must indeed be happy and good, and the legislator will
176 5 |              but very rich and very good at the same time he cannot
177 5 |            will be happy—he must be good as well as rich. And good
178 5 |           good as well as rich. And good in a high degree, and rich
179 5 |          the opposite case and is a good man cannot possibly be wealthier
180 5 |             but, as I was saying, a good man he never is. For he
181 5 |          that the very rich are not good, and, if they are not good,
182 5 |          good, and, if they are not good, they are not happy. But
183 5 |             that those which are of good land shall be smaller. while
184 5 |           properly and to their own good, will be excellent and suitable
185 5 |       affects the bodies of men for good or evil, but produces similar
186 6 |        magistracies.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. In the ordering
187 6 |            ordered city superadd to good laws unsuitable offices,
188 6 |             be no use in having the good laws—not only will they
189 6 |     Athenian. Yes; and I will be as good as my word.~Cleinias. Let
190 6 |             as the proverb says, “a good beginning is half the business”;
191 6 |           is no harm in repeating a good thing—that the Cnosians
192 6 |           never can be friends, nor good and bad, merely because
193 6 |          the source of the greatest good to individuals and states.
194 6 |         rains doing harm instead of good to the land, when they come
195 6 |            the dry places plenty of good water. The fountains of
196 6 |          rule, that he who is not a good servant will not be a good
197 6 |          good servant will not be a good master; a man should pride
198 6 |            any plant, if it makes a good start towards the attainment
199 6 |           may be an impediment, the good man ought to show that he
200 6 |        phrase is, and every sort of good fellowship with one another.
201 6 |           say to him who is born of good parents—O my son, you ought
202 6 |           dwellings.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. The city being
203 6 |         state is the cause of every good, but that which is disordered
204 6 |            that this institution is good and proper; but if you had
205 6 |         have to say.~Athenian. Very good; and you must not be surprised
206 6 |            Stranger.~Athenian. Very good. Then let us now proceed
207 7 |         right in maintaining that a good education is that which
208 7 |      Cleinias. What do you mean, my good sir? In the process of gestation?~
209 7 |           about by day and night is good for them all, and that the
210 7 |          mean in a word, there is a good deal to be said in favour
211 7 |             and sorrows more than a good man ought to be?~Cleinias.
212 7 |            answered?~Athenian. Very good, Cleinias; and now let us
213 7 |         same established notions of good and bad taste, either in
214 7 |          and like variety, and have good health and enjoyment of
215 7 |    principle we may imagine to hold good about the minds of men and
216 7 |           general are imitations of good and evil characters in men?
217 7 |           who likes.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. In the consideration
218 7 |             our law.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Can any one who
219 7 |            kind of song which is of good omen be heard everywhere
220 7 |             ask for evil instead of good. To make such a prayer would
221 7 |          capable of knowing what is good or evil? And if one of them
222 7 |             the opposite of what is good in matters of the highest
223 7 |           or just, or beautiful, or good, which are allowed in the
224 7 |          are departed and have done good and energetic deeds, either
225 7 |         exhortation will still hold good, nor will any one deny that
226 7 |             no one who is asleep is good for anything, any more than
227 7 |          and always turning them to good according to the law.~But
228 7 |           and the same remark holds good of the study of the lyre.
229 7 |             discourse, and to be of good cheer, and not to faint.~
230 7 |              if a man is to be made good and wise by experience and
231 7 |             answering.~Athenian. My good Cleinias, I rather think
232 7 |        might be able to distinguish good and bad imitation, that
233 7 |           say, the imitation of the good or bad soul when under the
234 7 |       exercise them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then once more
235 7 |          some labour or danger into good, and has greater pleasures,
236 7 | preservation and increase of former good, in which the pleasure is
237 7 |         Cleinias. Clearly, far from good.~Athenian. Concerning length
238 7 |           one another. A man who is good for a thing ought to be
239 7 |            But when any one has any good and true notion which is
240 7 |       enough; but shall we find any good or true notion about the
241 7 |             the stars?~Athenian. My good friends, at this hour all
242 7 |         Athenian. I will. For, O my good friends, that other doctrine
243 7 |            decision.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Enough of laws
244 7 |          which describes him as the good citizen who passes through
245 7 |            complete.~Cleinias. Very good.~  ~
246 8 |          sacrifices will be for the good of the city, and to what
247 8 |             he has become perfectly good; and cities are like individuals
248 8 |  individuals in this, for a city if good has a life of peace, but
249 8 |            those who are themselves good and also honourable in the
250 8 |            such as are the works of good men, which praise of blame
251 8 |           men should die, others as good as they will be born; but
252 8 |          such contests or any other good and honourable pursuit.
253 8 |           swiftness.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Certainly the
254 8 |             in each.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let us suppose
255 8 |     alteration of them do any great good or harm to the state. There
256 8 |          citizens—ordaining what is good and convenient for the whole
257 8 |            the laws.~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. Upon reflection
258 8 |             about them?~Athenian. A good objection; but was I not
259 8 |          and drinks, and makes them good friends to their own wives.
260 8 |         them, when his body is in a good condition, or when he is
261 8 |            his laws.~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. We had got about
262 8 |         discovery would do no great good, for at present they are
263 8 |    innumerable other things—bidding good–bye to these, he gives laws
264 8 |            but not every man can do good to another. He who encroaches
265 8 |          his boundaries, shall make good the damage, and, to cure
266 8 |          tax, however small, except good conduct, nor any other tax
267 9 |             of them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian Stranger. There
268 9 |             of those who are called good men among you; hear them
269 9 |            these remedies, well and good, but if not, then acknowledge
270 9 |            many stripes as may seem good to the judges, and be cast
271 9 |            escaped out of evil into good. None of them should have
272 9 |        predecessors!~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Once more let
273 9 |            about the beautiful, the good, and the just, and not to
274 9 |       result. And may the result be good, and if God be gracious,
275 9 |             be gracious, it will be good!~Cleinias. Excellent; let
276 9 |     voluntary crime?~Cleinias. Very good, Stranger; and what shall
277 9 |         consider whether mankind do good or harm to one another out
278 9 |            as he can, make the hurt good by law, and save that which
279 9 |          friendship.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then as to unjust
280 9 |         that they would do a double good to the rest of mankind if
281 9 |          jealousies.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let us first
282 9 |          sake of the soul. They are good, and wealth is intended
283 9 |             private but with public good (for public good binds together
284 9 |             public good (for public good binds together states, but
285 9 |         both the public and private good as well of individuals as
286 9 |             in regarding the public good as primary in the state,
287 9 |          the state, and the private good as secondary. Human nature
288 9 |    distinctly. But when a state has good courts, and the judges are
289 9 |             for virtue and also for good fortune, in which there
290 9 |            up he shall himself make good the injury. And if any one
291 9 |       partly framed for the sake of good men, in order to instruct
292 10|      persons?~Athenian Stranger. My good friend, let us first hear
293 10|          and also that they are too good to be unrighteous, or to
294 10|        stories have in other ways a good or a bad influence, I should
295 10|             Gods, and that they are good, and regard justice more
296 10|            let us take this way, my good sir.~Athenian. Then I suppose
297 10|          the others.~Athenian. Very good; but may I make one or two
298 10|            the soul is the cause of good and evil, base and honourable,
299 10|          than two—one the author of good, and the other of evil.~
300 10|             and guides it along the good path.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian.
301 10|         framing one.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then let us not
302 10|            just now.~Cleinias. Very good; do as you say, and we will
303 10|             that they are perfectly good, and that the care of all
304 10|             who possesses all these good qualities will be luxurious
305 10|          acknowledged that they are good and perfect?~Cleinias. Assuredly.~
306 10|           take care, is like a lazy good–for–nothing, or a coward,
307 10|           effort towards the common good, executing the part for
308 10|           when he observed that the good of the soul was ever by
309 10|       manner procure the victory of good and the defeat of evil in
310 10|           the soul receives more of good or evil from her own energy
311 10|            specially ordained; take good heed thereof, for it will
312 10|           his power.~Cleinias. Very good; let us do as you say.~Athenian.
313 10|           and have at the same time good memories and quick wits,
314 10|        again on their receiving any good fortune, have a way of consecrating
315 11|        dwells in our city may be as good or as little bad as possible,
316 11|          men to honour the words of good legislators.~The greater
317 11|            more to him who has been good to me, and whose badness
318 11|        ancient legislators were too good–natured, and made laws without
319 11|             possible way to do them good, for he is making a contribution
320 11|             contribution to his own good and that of his children.
321 11|         that the living Gods have a good will and gratitude to us
322 11|           in his prayers to do them good, he is not equally heard,
323 11|            very unjust ministers of good, and that we affirm to be
324 11|             thus ordered by nature, good men think it a blessing
325 11|             things, the law, like a good archer, should aim at the
326 11|    ridiculous, if they attempt in a good–natured manner to turn the
327 12|         them commit the election to good fate and fortune, and separate
328 12|         states are well governed by good laws the mixture causes
329 12|             who are bad and who are good, as they are removed from
330 12|             differences between the good and bad. And the generality
331 12|             exhorting us to value a good reputation in the world,
332 12|          this—that he who is really good (I am speaking of the man
333 12|          which has no experience of good and bad men or intercourse
334 12|             his own state which are good already; and amend what
335 12|           an examination and also a good one?~Athenian Stranger.
336 12|         city or about any specially good ones which they may hear
337 12|      receive gifts as the reward of good, but not of evil deeds”;
338 12|            sort have been framed by good men, and from them the guardians
339 12|             notions of the just and good and honourable which exist
340 12|          knowledge the knowledge of good laws has the greatest power
341 12|          upright, procuring for the good the continuance and increase
342 12|            an inspiring hope to the good, but very terrible to the
343 12|              Cleinias. That is very good Stranger; but I wish you
344 12|            with you.~Cleinias. Very good: And now what, according
345 12|           salvation?~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Does not the
346 12|          the state, whether they be good or bad, and others that
347 12|           definition. Can he who is good for anything be ignorant
348 12|           they should be equal, my; good, sir, is impossible.~Athenian.
349 12|             but “Certainly not,” my good sir, is the right answer.
350 12|            Ast. Well, and about the good and the honourable, are
351 12|             the same be said of all good things—that the true guardians
352 12|      intelligent will accomplishing good.~Cleinias. But what is the
353 12|            citizen, can hardly be a good ruler of a whole state;
354 12|             Cleinias. Certainly, my good friend, we will if the thing