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1 1 | every city is in a natural state of war with every other, 2 1 | imagine that a well governed state ought to be so ordered as 3 1 | house, the village, and the state?~Cleinias. You mean that 4 1 | above all in states; and the state in which the better citizens 5 1 | and when they prevail, the state may be truly called its 6 1 | will he who constitutes the state and orders the life of man 7 1 | have occurring in his own state; and when occurring, every 8 1 | latter in the case of his own state.~Athenian. And would not 9 1 | Nor is the victory of the state over itself to be regarded 10 1 | the body was in the best state when sick and purged by 11 1 | forgetting that there is also a state of the body which needs 12 1 | happiness of the individual or state, who looks only, or first 13 1 | upon the divine; and the state which attains the greater, 14 1 | from those of any ordinary state.~Megillus. That is not an 15 1 | or with what, or in what state and how, wheat is to be 16 1 | great good accrues to the state from the right training 17 1 | is the proxenus of your state. I imagine that from their 18 1 | proxeni of a particular state, feel kindly towards their 19 1 | case might be, “has your state treated us”; and having 20 1 | embodied in a decree by the State, is called Law.~Cleinias. 21 1 | us the common law of the State; there are others which 22 1 | Does he not return to the state of soul in which he was 23 1 | afterwards, he will be in a state of body which he would die 24 1 | first beginning reduced to a state of weakness?~Cleinias. Yes, 25 1 | Cretan, or for any other state, would you not like to have 26 2 | may do this in almost any state with the exception of Egypt.~ 27 2 | of some really existing state of things, whereas I was 28 2 | improvement on the present state of things?~Cleinias. A very 29 2 | but also a governor of a state and of cities. Such an one, 30 2 | to be received into the State. For wine has many excellences, 31 2 | may be used. But if the State makes drinking an amusement 32 3 | we not suppose that the state of man was something of 33 3 | Athenian. And out of this state of things has there not 34 3 | he traces up the ancient state of mankind by the help of 35 3 | lordships, and in this altered state of the government they will 36 3 | first, second, and third state, succeeding one another 37 3 | on the horizon a fourth state or nation which was once 38 3 | what changes would make a state happy, O Megillus and Cleinias, 39 3 | with his reason. But every state and every individual ought 40 3 | the mass or populace in a state. And when the soul is opposed 41 3 | call folly, just as in the state, when the multitude refuses 42 3 | opposite of a saviour of the state: he is utterly ignorant 43 3 | was under the idea that a state ought to be free and wise 44 3 | Persians had more of the state which is a mean between 45 3 | equality in the order of the state, and he embodied in his 46 3 | preeminent honour in a state because he surpasses others 47 3 | We maintain, then, that a State which would be safe and 48 3 | And it any legislator or state departs from this rule by 49 3 | not say, that he or the state is doing an unholy and unpatriotic 50 3 | wrong which are made in a state are a trifle, when compared 51 3 | the view of seeing how a state might be best administered, 52 3 | and then let us imagine a State of which we will suppose 53 3 | let us begin to frame the State.~  ~ 54 4 | is there any neighbouring State?~Cleinias. None whatever, 55 4 | chance of preserving your state from degeneracy and discordance 56 4 | unfaithful waysmaking the state unfriendly and unfaithful 57 4 | most fatal results on a State whose aim is the attainment 58 4 | honour is due. But how can a state be in a right condition 59 4 | estimating the goodness of a state, we regard both the situation 60 4 | or when a portion of a state is driven by factions to 61 4 | caused innovations in the state, when there have been pestilences, 62 4 | for the happiness of the state, yet the true legislator 63 4 | conditions which you require in a state before you can organize 64 4 | He will say—”Give me a state which is governed by a tyrant, 65 4 | other qualities, if the state is to acquire in the best 66 4 | that he ever does for a state which he desires to be eminently 67 4 | has done second best for a state in which there are two such 68 4 | rulers, and third best for a state in which there are three. 69 4 | of the chief men of the state; and when the ruling element 70 4 | change the manners of a state: he has only to go in the 71 4 | which are suitable to your state.~Cleinias. Let us proceed 72 4 | at the settlement of our state; may he hear and be propitious 73 4 | come and set in order the State and the laws!~Cleinias. 74 4 | servants of a part of their own state, and each of them is named 75 4 | after their rulers, the true state ought to be called by the 76 4 | becomes the master either of a state or of an individual—then, 77 4 | laws have authority in any state?”~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. “ 78 4 | Consider, then, to whom our state is to be entrusted. For 79 4 | for the good of the whole state. States which have such 80 4 | entrust the government in your state to any one because he is 81 4 | obedient to the laws of the state, he shall win the palm; 82 4 | well– or illbeing of the state. For that state in which 83 4 | being of the state. For that state in which the law is subject 84 4 | ruin; but I see that the state in which the law is above 85 4 | Gods and the Gods of the State, honour should be given 86 4 | and will thus render our state, if the Gods co–operate 87 4 | laws, to the hurt of the state.”~Cleinias. That is true.~ 88 4 | first determined in every state?~Cleinias. Quite so.~Athenian. 89 4 | which the young men in the state give to the aged. Comparing 90 4 | which I myself prefer in the state, I should certainly determine 91 4 | consulted, for his is the state which is going to use these 92 5 | either to them or to the state. The condition of youth 93 5 | in his relations to the state and his fellow citizens, 94 5 | and in relation to the state, and his friends, and kindred, 95 5 | choose pain; and the neutral state we are ready to take in 96 5 | in the constitution of a state—one the creation of offices, 97 5 | greatest injury of the whole state. But the milder form of 98 5 | the natural plague of the state, are sent away by the legislator 99 5 | join and be citizens of our state, after we have tested them 100 5 | beginning of salvation to a state, and upon this lasting basis 101 5 | in the arrangement of the state until they are settled. 102 5 | be the founders of a new state as yet free from enmity— 103 5 | form and outline of our state. The number of our citizens 104 5 | legislator is establishing a new state or restoring an old and 105 5 | is no greater good in a state than that the citizens should 106 5 | entitled: wherefore, in every state, above all things, every 107 5 | may desire to give to his state some feature which is congenial 108 5 | and highest form of the state and of the government and 109 5 | will ever constitute a state which will be truer or better 110 5 | in virtue. Whether such a state is governed by Gods or sons 111 5 | look for the pattern of the state, and to cling to this, and 112 5 | which is like this. The state which we have now in hand, 113 5 | ministering to the Gods, the state and the family, as well 114 5 | sending out a herald, the state must also possess a common 115 5 | principle and intention of a state. The intention, as we affirm, 116 5 | legislator, namely, that the state for the true interests of 117 5 | impossible; and he who orders the state will desire what is possible, 118 5 | that of the soul; and the state which we are describing 119 5 | in special crises of the state, qualifications of property 120 5 | would be as follows:—In a state which is desirous of being 121 5 | back the surplus to the state, and to the Gods who are 122 5 | who are the patrons of the state, he shall suffer no penalty 123 6 | Athenian. In the ordering of a state there are two parts: first, 124 6 | constitution of out intended state. In the first place, you 125 6 | offered to settle the new state on behalf of the people 126 6 | public elections of the state; I say, if this could be 127 6 | the end of the time, of a state thus trained not being permanent.~ 128 6 | become a citizen of the new state; and if you and they cannot 129 6 | held in whatever temple the state deems most venerable, and 130 6 | other than the colonizing state. Well I know that many colonies 131 6 | democracy, and such a mean the state ought always to observe; 132 6 | without difficulty, by any state or any legislator in the 133 6 | are times at which every state is compelled to use the 134 6 | reasons given, should a state act which would endure and 135 6 | furnish guardians of the state, each portion for a single 136 6 | the presiding body of the state ought always to have the 137 6 | the other officers of the state during one portion of the 138 6 | place and city, that the state may be as far as possible 139 6 | who has the safety of the state at heart will use his utmost 140 6 | all the great offices of state, this is the greatest; for 141 6 | follows:—All the officers of state, as well annual as those 142 6 | of offences against the state, the people ought to participate, 143 6 | when any one wrongs the state all are wronged, and may 144 6 | that he has no share in the state at all. And for this reason 145 6 | deteriorate, but to improve in the state which he has established?~ 146 6 | principle, let us divide the state; and assigning to each portion 147 6 | is most beneficial to the state. For somehow every one is 148 6 | for the citizens of our state are provided with the necessaries 149 6 | surprised, Megillus, for the state of the Helots among the 150 6 | which has law and order in a state is the cause of every good, 151 6 | to the happiness of the state. But at present, such is 152 6 | tremendous outcry, but in this state perhaps they may. And if 153 6 | whole discussion about the state has not been mere idle talk, 154 6 | they are to produce for the state the best and fairest specimens 155 7 | may order his house and state well and be happy.~Cleinias. 156 7 | Cleinias. But how must the state educate those who do not 157 7 | should embrace the middle state, which I just spoke of as 158 7 | gentle and benign, and is a state which we by some divine 159 7 | are the bonds of the whole state, and come in between the 160 7 | to bind together the new state in every possible way, omitting 161 7 | solemn institutions of the state are allowed to remain undisturbed. 162 7 | greater evil can happen in a state; for he who changes the 163 7 | everywhere and always in our state. I need hardly ask again, 164 7 | Plutus should dwell in our state?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. 165 7 | which are allowed in the state? nor shall he be permitted 166 7 | regarded as belonging to the state rather than to their parents. 167 7 | with one mind, for thus the state, instead of being a whole, 168 7 | might have made the whole state happy.~Megillus. What shall 169 7 | themselves and to the whole state.~A night which is passed 170 7 | necessary for the whole state—I am speaking of the arrangements 171 7 | work of legislation, I must state the more difficult as well 172 7 | take alarm about our infant state. Many things have been said 173 7 | receiving pay from the state, and their pupils should 174 7 | the men and boys in the state, and also the girls and 175 7 | would be the disgrace to the state, if the women had been so 176 7 | unseemly thing to happen in a state, as well as a great misfortune.~ 177 7 | and noblest; for our whole state is an imitation of the best 178 7 | opposite of our own. For a state would be mad which gave 179 7 | and they will benefit the state. If anyone is of another 180 7 | redeemed and removed from our state, if they do not please either 181 7 | for the advantage of the state and in every way acceptable 182 7 | whole constitution of our state having been thus delineated, 183 8 | and also honourable in the state, creators of noble actions— 184 8 | far greater evil to the state than the loss of a few.~ 185 8 | things, and that the whole state should practise them supposed~ 186 8 | notably the causes. But our state has escaped both of them; 187 8 | great good or harm to the state. There is, however, another 188 8 | convenient for the whole state amid the corruptions of 189 8 | and dances. How, in such a state as this, will they abstain 190 8 | should wish to have in the state the love which is of virtue 191 8 | continuance of an entire state in the practice of common 192 8 | great legislator of our state should determine all the 193 8 | the public order of the state, has an art which requires 194 8 | our first principle in the state:—No one who is a smith shall 195 8 | but let every man in the state have one art, and get his 196 8 | and expulsion from the state, until they compel him to 197 8 | which they have with the state, or with some individual. 198 8 | which he confers on the state, and he thinks that he can 199 9 | the details of crime in a state which, as we say, is to 200 9 | To assume that in such a state there will arise some one 201 9 | or his parents, or the state, let the judge deem him 202 9 | goods confiscated to the state, for the lots of the citizens 203 9 | to the dissolution of the state:—Whoever by promoting a 204 9 | greatest enemy of the whole state. But he who takes no part 205 9 | chief magistrates of the state, has no knowledge of the 206 9 | violence of the laws of the state. For a thief, whether he 207 9 | convicted of a theft against the state, then if he can persuade 208 9 | if I did not, let me now state—~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. 209 9 | be described either as a state or a part of her, and is 210 9 | these crimes, either in a state of madness or when affected 211 9 | judged to have been in this state when he committed the offence, 212 9 | degree to the chiefs of the state. And a third cause is cowardly 213 9 | which represents the whole state, forbids him, and always 214 9 | not because the law of the state requires him, nor yet under 215 9 | states is greater when the state and not the individual is 216 9 | public good as primary in the state, and the private good as 217 9 | I may reply, that in a state in which the courts are 218 9 | which affects the whole state. Unfortunate is the necessity 219 9 | smallest offences; if the state for which he is legislating 220 9 | speak distinctly. But when a state has good courts, and the 221 9 | private property of the state. Now the state should seek 222 9 | property of the state. Now the state should seek to have its 223 9 | what family there is in the state which is of the highest 224 9 | penalty for the loss which the state has incurred. And the penalty 225 10| which the virtue of your state, as I am informed, refuses 226 10| should he only rise up in the state and threaten all mankind, 227 10| when passing into another state it is destroyed utterly. 228 10| be three prisons in the state: the first of them is to 229 10| consequence is that the whole state reaps the fruit of their 230 11| as he ought to be, by the state, which shall give his master 231 11| shall not remain in the state more than twenty years, 232 11| especially those who are in state offices. And this is the 233 11| the least injury to the state; and in the third place, 234 11| be quite necessary in a state—about these the guardians 235 11| possible injury to those in the state who practise it.~When a 236 11| are the partners of the state, and overthrows the foundations 237 11| the common bonds of the state. And let him who, having 238 11| the saviours of the whole state, whether by their courage 239 11| take effect in whatever state he may have been at the 240 11| possessions as belonging to the state; wherefore, if some one 241 11| what is best both for the state and for the family, esteeming 242 11| within the limits of the state; and if any maiden has no 243 11| of the law, and let the state appoint another guardian 244 11| hatred as this. In another state, a son disowned by his father 245 11| be a citizen, but in our state, of which these are to be 246 11| to his family and to the state. And if a man dies leaving 247 11| occur in a well–ordered state. Let this, then, be the 248 11| education, he lives in a state of savageness and moroseness, 249 11| then, do we admit into our state the comic writers who are 250 11| there be no beggars in our state; and if anybody begs, seeking 251 11| pay for them. Now in our state this so–called art, whether 252 12| elements of dissolution in a state, as there are also in a 253 12| without blame, then the whole state and country flourishes and 254 12| constitutions, every power in the state is rent asunder from every 255 12| these men, whom the whole state counts worthy of the rewards 256 12| lawsuits are going on in a state that almost half the people 257 12| choosing magistrates for the state shall either vote on oath 258 12| freeman is disobedient to the state in minor matters, of which 259 12| they are ordered.~Now a state which makes money from the 260 12| class authorized by the state. To Apollo at Delphi and 261 12| institutions in his own state which are good already; 262 12| can be no dispute in this state of ours; but if a man has 263 12| friend and enemy of the state as his own friend and enemy; 264 12| without the authority of the state, he, like the receiver of 265 12| way, and the public and state courts, and those which 266 12| for the order of our new state, considering and correcting 267 12| a subverter of the whole state and of the laws.~Thus a 268 12| of the things which in a state and government give not 269 12| to be the anchor of the state, our city, having everything 270 12| what would you say of the state? If a person proves to be 271 12| tell what is the aim of the state, and will inform us how 272 12| advise us to that end. Any state which has no such institution 273 12| parts or institutions of the state is any such guardian power 274 12| should bear rule in the state, whether they be good or 275 12| placed in the head of the state, having their souls all 276 12| truly preserve the whole state:—Shall this or some other 277 12| other be the order of our state? Are all our citizens to 278 12| guardians of our divine state to perceive, in the first 279 12| Certainly not; that would be the state of a slave.~Athenian. And 280 12| a good ruler of a whole state; but he should be the subordinate 281 12| for the salvation of the state. Shall we propose this?~ 282 12| hesitate about that. And the state will be perfected and become


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