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  1 1 |          you say, Stranger, is most true.~Megillus. Quite excellent,
  2 1 |      reverse of war.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And will he who
  3 1 |         like manner no one can be a true statesman, whether he aims
  4 1 |             of them.~Megillus. Very true.~Cleinias. And they have
  5 1 |             intelligence, others by true opinion only, and then mind
  6 1 |             in our search after the true and good, one of us may
  7 1 |             and to say what is most true.~Athenian. As there are
  8 1 |             we are alone.~Cleinias. True. And therefore you may be
  9 1 |    considered that this was equally true of pleasure; he should have
 10 1 |          worthy to be called in the true sense men and freemen. Tell
 11 1 |            above all others, and is true also of most other states
 12 1 |             Cleinias. That again is true.~Athenian. And if there
 13 1 |            time of peace.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And that sort
 14 1 |            occasion.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Must we not appoint
 15 1 |             The last remark is very true, Stranger; and I see quite
 16 1 |             you have been saying is true?~Athenian. To be absolutely
 17 1 |          the common saying is quite true, that a good Athenian is
 18 1 |            he lives.~Cleinias. Very true; and we entirely agree with
 19 1 |          such a doctrine.~Athenian. True, I was; and I am ready still,
 20 1 |             may conceive this to be true in the same way of other
 21 1 |    accompaniment of pain.~Cleinias. True; but I hardly think that
 22 1 |           pleasures.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And does not
 23 1 |            and to states.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Does not this
 24 1 |             that is base.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Are not the moments
 25 1 |         Cleinias. That is certainly true.~Athenian. And this knowledge
 26 2 |           to them. As to wisdom and true and fixed opinions, happy
 27 2 |            saying is in our opinion true to nature or not. For men
 28 2 |           dance and song?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then he who is
 29 2 |            is any or not.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Let us follow
 30 2 |             no use in talking about true education, whether Hellenic
 31 2 |             in them.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And is any harm
 32 2 |        years ago;—this is literally true and no exaggeration—their
 33 2 |          telling you about music is true and deserving of consideration,
 34 2 |            confidently say that the true use of music and of choral
 35 2 |       unable to be still?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Our young men
 36 2 |           our youth.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Is it altogether
 37 2 |      greatest number? Now is this a true way of speaking or of acting?~
 38 2 |             wisdom and courage; the true judge must not draw his
 39 2 |            other. And similarly the true legislator will persuade,
 40 2 |            the same.~Athenian. Most true, Cleinias; and I daresay
 41 2 |             Cleinias. That is quite true.~Athenian. Once more: Suppose
 42 2 |             both of them.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And which may
 43 2 |          his honour.~Athenian. Very true; and therefore it must be
 44 2 |      discreet he grows;—is not this true?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian.
 45 2 |            up to us, which is their true rightness.~Cleinias. Just
 46 2 |         speaking of.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Then, if such
 47 2 |          false opinion; and this is true of all equality, for the
 48 2 |           whatever.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Do we not regard
 49 2 |            the good.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And those who
 50 2 |     pleasant, but for that which is true; and the truth of imitation
 51 2 |            whether the intention is true or false.~Cleinias. Certainly
 52 2 |           who does not know what is true be able to distinguish what
 53 2 |      proportions of a body, and the true situation of the parts;
 54 2 |           of beauty.~Athenian. Very true; and may we not say that
 55 2 |             he must know that it is true; and thirdly, that it has
 56 2 |         Orpheus says, “are ripe for true pleasure.” The experienced
 57 2 |            mankind.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Were we not saying
 58 2 |      reverence and shame?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And the guardians
 59 2 |           the voice.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. And the sound
 60 2 |          choral art?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And one part
 61 2 |            so that if what I say is true, no city will need many
 62 3 |             another.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let us suppose,
 63 3 |          who tended them?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And of cities
 64 3 |            world is.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Doubtless the
 65 3 |             men they believed to be true, and lived accordingly;
 66 3 |           explained.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. I should wish
 67 3 |           most just?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. After this they
 68 3 |       others not so well.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then now we seem
 69 3 |           overthrew Troy.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And during the
 70 3 |      Messene, Lacedaemon.~Megillus. True.~Athenian. Temenus was the
 71 3 |            their kingdom.~Megillus. True.~Athenian. But can a kingship
 72 3 |         rebellious third.~Megillus. True.~Athenian. Many persons
 73 3 |            standing.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. But then, my
 74 3 |             states?~Megillus. Quite true.~Athenian. And would not
 75 3 |            question.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Did you never
 76 3 |             is ruin. And if this be true, the legislator must endeavour
 77 3 |          compulsion.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. There is a seventh
 78 3 |           or worse.”~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And may we suppose
 79 3 |           to be despised.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. There was small
 80 3 |             seven chiefs.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Let us note the
 81 3 |           with and corresponding to true reason, can be intemperate?~
 82 3 |            regular order.~Megillus. True.~Athenian. And ought not
 83 3 |             silver.~Megillus. Quite true.~Athenian. And now enough
 84 3 |          words, Athenian, are quite true, and worthy of yourself
 85 3 |         country.~Athenian. They are true, Megillus; and to you, who
 86 3 |           for themselves.~Megillus. True; but I wish that you would
 87 3 |             liberty?~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Consequent upon
 88 3 |             gainers.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. And that was
 89 4 |             For I consider that the true lawgiver, like an archer,
 90 4 |     happiness of the state, yet the true legislator must from time
 91 4 |           the scene?~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. In each case
 92 4 |      legislator is by nature of the true sort, and that his strength
 93 4 |             after their rulers, the true state ought to be called
 94 4 |            this tradition, which is true, declares that cities of
 95 4 |            in any state?”~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. “Well,” they
 96 4 |             keenest.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And now, what
 97 4 |              the words are far more true of him. And he who would
 98 4 |             the opposite of this is true: for the bad man has an
 99 4 |         speaks well.~Athenian. Very true: and now let me tell you
100 4 |           state.”~Cleinias. That is true.~Athenian. May we not fairly
101 4 |             doctors.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And whether they
102 4 |            marriage?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And, according
103 4 |     Athenian. And, according to the true order, the laws relating
104 4 |      Cleinias. That I think is most true. And now, Stranger, without
105 5 |            that of honours some are true and some are counterfeit.
106 5 |           truth, that he may live a true man as long as possible,
107 5 |           himself in the pursuit of true virtue, and reduces his
108 5 |            be plain, if a man has a true taste of them, as will be
109 5 |         clearly seen. But what is a true taste? That we have to learn
110 5 |       intemperately. And if this is true, the inference clearly is
111 5 |             know them; for they are true, and should be proclaimed
112 5 |          him, but that he be always true and simple; and that no
113 5 |              that the state for the true interests of which he is
114 5 |            inconsistently, that the true legislator desires to have
115 5 |             a rogue. And if this is true, I can never assent to the
116 5 |             Our statement, then, is true, that the very rich are
117 6 |              Cleinias. That is very true.~Athenian. Then let us recognize
118 6 |      friendship,” is happy and also true; but there is obscurity
119 6 |            justice, and is ever the true principle of states, at
120 6 |      maturity; and this is not only true of plants, but of animals
121 6 |             a short time?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And is not the
122 6 |             law as a man wanting in true taste, and uninstructed
123 6 |             the opposite.~Megillus. True.~Cleinias. Then what are
124 6 |            their masters.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Now that each
125 6 |            outline.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. The temples are
126 6 |       labour, and did not know that true repose comes from labour,
127 6 |       appears to me to be right and true, Cleinias.~Cleinias. Certainly.~
128 6 |           subject of law.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then let us return
129 6 |            they do still?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Again, the practice
130 6 |       tradition, and is very likely true.~Athenian. Some one might
131 6 |             to them.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let us keep in
132 7 |           am saying.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Stranger. Am
133 7 |         attained at five.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Well, and is
134 7 |          very likely to arrive at a true conviction that without
135 7 |      exercise of courage.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And we may say
136 7 |           the soul.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Further, a cheerful
137 7 |             animal.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Do not nurses,
138 7 |       passed ill or well.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Does not the
139 7 |             For I maintain that the true life should neither seek
140 7 |            our laws.~Cleinias. Very true: we are disposed to agree
141 7 |    dangerous of all things; this is true in the case of the seasons
142 7 |             the habits of our minds—true of all things except, as
143 7 |           pleasures.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Can any of us
144 7 |            a moment.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then we will
145 7 |          ridiculous.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Were we not a
146 7 |            fitting.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But to honour
147 7 |          them worse.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Again, we must
148 7 |           than this?~Cleinias. Very true; yet much of what has been
149 7 |         legislation.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Then now I may
150 7 |             Athenian. That is quite true; and you mean to imply,
151 7 |             of well; and if this be true, then I do affirm that much
152 7 |           imitation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And with this
153 7 |           Cleinias. That, again, is true.~Athenian. Then let him
154 7 |            body—that, I say, is the true sort; but the opposite is
155 7 |             assigned to them a very true, and poetical, and rational
156 7 |            noblest of dramas, which true law can alone perfect, as
157 7 |           you have now said is very true and agreeable to nature.~
158 7 |           far more fatal.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. All freemen,
159 7 |           some way?~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But if they are
160 7 |            any one has any good and true notion which is for the
161 7 |           shall we find any good or true notion about the stars?~
162 7 |           wanderers.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; and in the course
163 7 |          like yourselves.~Cleinias. True; but what is this study
164 7 |      quickest. And if what I say is true, only just imagine that
165 7 |            our praises would not be true, nor very agreeable to the
166 7 |             of them.~Cleinias. Most true, if such is the fact.~Athenian.
167 7 |        praise of a citizen; and the true legislator ought not only
168 8 |         nearly as possible like the true ones, in order that the
169 8 |      prepare the whole city for the true conflict of life? If any
170 8 |             of his lusts.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Let this, then,
171 8 |    according to our idea.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then next we
172 8 |            strength.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Neither of them
173 8 |            in his mind the image of true law. How can we prove, that
174 8 |            that what I am saying is true? He who would rightly consider
175 8 |         excess love.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. The friendship
176 8 |             of them.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Does not a little
177 8 |           difficult.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Shall I try and
178 9 |         observation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. But we are fortunate.~
179 9 |          well as writers? Is it not true that of all the writings
180 9 | consistently carried out?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But then if we
181 9 |          sufferings. And if this be true, are not the just and the
182 9 |            and just.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger.~Athenian. Then
183 9 |        between them.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; there cannot
184 9 |         many things.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And pleasure
185 9 |             things.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. A man may truly
186 9 |       inferior to them; and this is true.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian.
187 9 |           ignorance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We are speaking
188 9 |            of hopes, which aimed at true opinion about the best.
189 9 |              and what should be the true manner of instituting such
190 9 |            in apprehending that the true art or politics is concerned,
191 9 |           the abstract that this is true, yet if he be possessed
192 9 |            of all. I speak of mind, true and free, and in harmony
193 9 |          But although they are most true tales, they work on such
194 10|          they are useful, or at all true. Of the words of the ancients
195 10|          wait and consider if it be true or not; ask of others, and
196 10|          excellent.~Athenian. Quite true, Megillus and Cleinias,
197 10|       chance.~Cleinias. Is not that true?~Athenian. Well, philosophers
198 10|           assumptions which are not true.~Cleinias. How do you mean?~
199 10|             inviting them to lead a true life according to nature,
200 10|             and families!~Athenian. True, Cleinias; but then what
201 10|        really means.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Then, by Heaven,
202 10|         fallen into error about the true nature of the Gods.~Cleinias.
203 10|      transpositions. And if this is true, and if the soul is older
204 10|           nature; and this would be true if you proved that the soul
205 10|          the exact opposite of this true, or are some things in motion
206 10|           and lesser circles. “Very true.” And when you speak of
207 10|            the soul?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let us assume
208 10|           every passion, and is the true principle of change and
209 10|          Athenian. According to the true order, the tenth was really
210 10|           principle?~Cleinias. Very true, and I quite agree.~Athenian.
211 10|             second.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. At this stage
212 10|             equal parts”?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. I mean, that
213 10|        equal parts.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. And what is the
214 10|       Athenian. Yes; and if this is true, do we still maintain that
215 10|       Cleinias. Nothing can be more true.~Athenian. Do you remember
216 10|          wishes and reasonings, and true opinions, and reflections,
217 10|             of evil.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Yes, very true;
218 10|           true.~Athenian. Yes, very true; the soul then directs all
219 10|    attention, deliberation, opinion true and false, joy and sorrow,
220 10|            the good path.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But if the world
221 10|           soul guides it.~Cleinias. True again.~Athenian. Of what
222 10|              Cleinias. That is most true.~Athenian. Then, after what
223 10|        cowardice of vice?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And the one is
224 10|           indolence.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then not from
225 10|              Cleinias. That is very true.~Athenian. Then the alternative
226 10|     Cleinias. Yes, that is probably true.~Athenian. Then all things
227 10|           it not can never form any true idea of the happiness or
228 10|             whole heaven?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And to what earthly
229 10|          injustice.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. What else can
230 11|             saying, which is also a true one—”To fight against two
231 11|           art, which is by nature a true thing; and he who is wronged
232 11|        traditions, long indeed, but true; and seeing that they are
233 11|            us that these things are true, if they are not to be regarded
234 11|           only he knows how to show true service to them.~Cleinias.
235 11|            And what do you call the true mode of service?~Athenian.
236 12|           shades or images; for the true and immortal being of each
237 12|             world below. If this be true, a man ought not to waste
238 12|             by us before?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then, returning
239 12|         their craft?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We do not want
240 12|         mere chance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. In which, then,
241 12|           our aims.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Then now we shall
242 12|         four kinds?~Athenian. Quite true.~Cleinias. And that mind
243 12|           nature.~Cleinias. That is true.~Athenian. I have now told
244 12|          also a definition to them, true knowledge consists in knowing
245 12|            alluding?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Did we not say
246 12|             a view to it.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And can any one
247 12|            all good things—that the true guardians of the laws ought
248 12|           Athenian. No man can be a true worshipper of the Gods who
249 12|         undertaking.~Cleinias. Very true, Megillus; and you must