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1 1 | with a view to war, and the legislator appears to me to have looked
2 1 | intention of the Cretan legislator; all institutions, private
3 1 | the best sort of judge and legislator.~Athenian. And yet the aim
4 1 | also be the desire of the legislator?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian.
5 1 | will he ever be a sound legislator who orders peace for the
6 1 | maintain that the divine legislator of Crete, like any other
7 1 | divine excellence;—at the legislator when making his laws had
8 1 | is the order in which the legislator must place them, and after
9 1 | In the next place, the legislator has to be careful how the
10 1 | gymnasia, invented by your legislator with a view to war?~Megillus.
11 1 | have hit the meaning of the legislator, and to say what is most
12 1 | young men present, and the legislator has given old men free licence,
13 1 | Greek or barbarian, whom the legislator commanded to eschew all
14 1 | their subjects. Now the legislator ought to have considered
15 1 | the discrimination of the legislator. I am not speaking of drinking,
16 1 | Athenian. And does not the legislator and every one who is good
17 1 | have been of use to the legislator as a test of courage? Might
18 1 | not go and say to him, “O legislator, whether you are legislating
19 2 | statesmanlike, how worthy of a legislator! I know that other things
20 2 | And similarly the true legislator will persuade, and, if he
21 2 | the rule, whether he be legislator or father, will be in a
22 2 | pleasant? Certainly not, sweet legislator. Or shall we say that the
23 2 | with the designs of the legislator, and is, in his opinion,
24 2 | especially in childhood, the legislator will try to purge away the
25 2 | sowing of teeth, which the legislator may take as a proof that
26 2 | their youth, viz., the good legislator; and that he ought to enact
27 3 | Now, in general, when the legislator attempts to make a new settlement
28 3 | first, that a statesman and legislator ought to ordain laws with
29 3 | And if this be true, the legislator must endeavour to implant
30 3 | making of laws, “you see, legislator, the principles of government,
31 3 | what measures ought the legislator to have then taken in order
32 3 | and harmonious, and that a legislator ought to legislate with
33 3 | continually proposing aims for the legislator which appear not to be always
34 3 | what, in your opinion, the legislator should aim.~Athenian. Hear
35 3 | this, I say, is what the legislator has to consider, and what
36 3 | Athenian. And ought not the legislator to determine these classes?~
37 3 | and property. And it any legislator or state departs from this
38 4 | advantage to the colonist or legislator, in another point of view
39 4 | the colony, who is their legislator, finds them troublesome
40 4 | the state, yet the true legislator must from time to time appear
41 4 | course.~Athenian. And the legislator would do likewise?~Cleinias.
42 4 | would.~Athenian. “Come, legislator,” we will say to him; “what
43 4 | contemporary of a great legislator, and that some happy chance
44 4 | I am supposing that the legislator is by nature of the true
45 4 | punished as an evil–doer by the legislator, who calls the laws just?”~
46 4 | and must be said by the legislator who is of my way of thinking,
47 4 | surely be the aim of the legislator in all his laws.~Cleinias.
48 4 | addressed to him by the legislator, when his soul is not altogether
49 4 | little conversation with the legislator, and say to him—”O, legislator,
50 4 | legislator, and say to him—”O, legislator, speak; if you know what
51 4 | just now saying, that the legislator ought not to allow the poets
52 4 | not the case in a law; the legislator must give not two rules
53 4 | Now you in the capacity of legislator must not barely say “a moderate
54 4 | not.~Athenian. And is our legislator to have no preface to his
55 4 | them, so we will ask the legislator to cure our disorders with
56 4 | conciliation, which the legislator has been uttering in the
57 4 | to each separately, the legislator should prefix a preamble;
58 5 | word and approval of the legislator, he indulges in pleasure,
59 5 | sorrows and pains which the legislator approves, but gives way
60 5 | according to the standard of the legislator, and abstain in every possible
61 5 | which is the business of the legislator; and he, I suspect, would
62 5 | reverential. A sensible legislator will rather exhort the elders
63 5 | highest importance; and the legislator should make enquiries, and
64 5 | most difficult of them, the legislator, if he be also a despot,
65 5 | able to effect; but the legislator, who, not being a despot,
66 5 | state, are sent away by the legislator in a friendly spirit as
67 5 | termed a colony. And every legislator should contrive to do this
68 5 | standing among them, no legislator of any degree of sense will
69 5 | of parts up to ten. Every legislator ought to know so much arithmetic
70 5 | view to use. Whether the legislator is establishing a new state
71 5 | not to be disturbed by the legislator; but he should assign to
72 5 | constitution is ill adapted to a legislator who has not despotic power.
73 5 | your friend, nor will the legislator; and indeed the law declares
74 5 | be the object of a good legislator, namely, that the state
75 5 | inconsistently, that the true legislator desires to have the city
76 5 | happy and good, and the legislator will seek to make him so;
77 5 | wrong. Wherefore, also, the legislator ought often to impress upon
78 5 | both these evils. Now the legislator should determine what is
79 5 | impaired in any case. This the legislator gives as a measure, and
80 5 | by more and less. And the legislator shall divide the citizens
81 5 | and other things which the legislator, as is evident from these
82 5 | about;—all this is as if the legislator were telling his dreams,
83 5 | say. Once more, then, the legislator shall appear and address
84 5 | to it; you must allow the legislator to perfect his design, and
85 5 | go round and round. The legislator is to consider all these
86 5 | such things, if only the legislator, by other laws and institutions,
87 5 | acquisitions, whether some unworthy legislator theirs has been the cause,
88 5 | To all these matters the legislator, if he have any sense in
89 6 | difficulty, by any state or any legislator in the distribution of honours:
90 6 | hereafter founded. To this the legislator should look—not to the interests
91 6 | creatures. Wherefore the legislator ought not to allow the education
92 6 | every way best; him the legislator shall do his utmost to appoint
93 6 | And is not the aim of the legislator similar? First, he desires
94 6 | imagine that there ever was a legislator so foolish as not to know
95 6 | in our united opinion the legislator and guardian of the law
96 6 | and minute details, the legislator must leave out something.
97 6 | quite sufficient; and if the legislator be alive they shall communicate
98 6 | with the others which the legislator originally gave them, and
99 6 | when first enacted by the legislator in your parts of the world,
100 6 | executed; and would be like the legislator “combing wool into the fire,”
101 6 | without regulation by the legislator, which is a great mistake.
102 6 | be far too much for the legislator. And therefore, as I said
103 7 | to the intention of the legislator, and make the characters
104 7 | which is established. The legislator must somehow find a way
105 7 | to them the wishes of the legislator in order that they may regulate
106 7 | them. And therefore the legislator must assign to these also
107 7 | greater mistake for any legislator to make than this?~Cleinias.
108 7 | must say what I think. The legislator ought to be whole and perfect,
109 7 | some impropriety in the legislator determining minutely the
110 7 | sufficiently declared to you by the legislator. Attend, then, to what I
111 7 | becoming name. These things the legislator should indicate in general
112 7 | it is difficult for the legislator to begin with these studies;
113 7 | claim our attention. For the legislator appears to have a duty imposed
114 7 | obedient to the words of the legislator, both when he is giving
115 7 | a citizen; and the true legislator ought not only to write
116 7 | against armies. Now the legislator, in laying down laws about
117 7 | praises and injunctions of the legislator rather than the punishments
118 8 | ordain those things which the legislator of necessity omits; and
119 8 | equally to men and women. The legislator may be supposed to argue
120 8 | than boxers? And will the legislator, because he is afraid that
121 8 | declared by the original legislator; and his successors ought
122 8 | principle which we say that a legislator should always observe; for
123 8 | right in saying that the legislator who wants to master any
124 8 | this makes the task of the legislator less difficult—half as many
125 8 | necessary that the great legislator of our state should determine
126 8 | beneath the wisdom of an aged legislator. These lesser matters, as
127 9 | many kinds, ought not the legislator to adapt himself to them,
128 9 | Athenian. And ought the legislator alone among writers to withhold
129 9 | just or unjust; but the legislator has to consider whether
130 9 | work of law. But if the legislator sees any one who is incurable,
131 9 | in such cases only, the legislator ought to inflict death as
132 9 | conveniently divided by the legislator into two sorts: there is
133 9 | strength, will be held by the legislator to be the source of great
134 9 | his being, and whom the legislator will command to endure any
135 9 | according to the law. Now the legislator may easily show that these
136 9 | enactments. The poorest legislator will have no difficulty
137 9 | And then, again, that the legislator should not permit them to
138 9 | courts of law; others the legislator must decide for himself.~
139 9 | Cleinias. And what ought the legislator to decide, and what ought
140 9 | the necessity exists, the legislator should only allow them to
141 9 | pay for the harm, for no legislator is able to control chance.
142 9 | about to utter; for them the legislator legislates of necessity,
143 10| others, and above all of the legislator. In the meantime take care
144 10| Gods. For the duty of the legislator is and always will be to
145 10| at all possible, then a legislator who has anything in him
146 10| undermined by bad men, but the legislator himself?~Megillus. There
147 10| Assuredly God will not blame the legislator, who will enact the following
148 11| children and regardless of the legislator, taking up that which neither
149 11| themselves and to others. Now a legislator ought not to leave the matter
150 11| succour of adversity. And the legislator ought always to be devising
151 11| anxiety and trouble to the legislator.~Cleinias. In what way?~
152 11| this hour. Now I, as the legislator, regard you and your possessions,
153 11| him, let him pardon the legislator if he gives them in marriage,
154 11| say, shall forgive the legislator if he disregards this, which
155 11| Persons may fancy that the legislator never thought of this, but
156 11| the latter to forgive the legislator, in that he, having to take
157 11| there are cases in which the legislator will be imposing upon him
158 11| marriage, and asserts that the legislator, if he were alive and present,
159 11| this, the reply is that the legislator left fifteen of the guardians
160 11| censure and blame from the legislator, which, by a man of sense,
161 11| experience the wrath of the legislator. But he who is disobedient,
162 11| will be of opinion that the legislator should enact that they may,
163 11| children, compelling the legislator and the judge to heal the
164 11| a fellow–worker with the legislator, whenever the law leaves
165 11| shall suffer or pay; and the legislator, like a painter, shall give
166 11| and does not do what the legislator commands. And if in any
167 11| government. Wherefore the legislator may safely make a law applicable
168 11| litten to the request of the legislator and go away into another
169 12| son of a God; of this the legislator ought to be better informed
170 12| About these matters the legislator has to consider, and he
171 12| matters which the elder legislator has omitted may be supplied
172 12| test is the writings of the legislator, which the righteous judge
173 12| Now we must believe the legislator when he tells us that the
174 12| the Gods below. But the legislator does not intend moderation
175 12| anything greater to the legislator and the guardian of the
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