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 1 1 |        without correct principles of music; these are necessary to
 2 1 |        treatment of the subject, and music again runs up into education
 3 2 |        better trained in dancing and music—he who is able to move his
 4 2 |         however, in passing, that in music there certainly are figures
 5 2 |              there are melodies: and music is concerned with harmony
 6 2 |               that the excellence of music is to give pleasure to our
 7 2 |         amusement which are given by music, can we suppose that the
 8 2 |              what are the laws about music and dancing in Egypt?~Athenian.
 9 2 |          either in these arts, or in music at all. And you will find
10 2 |          what I am telling you about music is true and deserving of
11 2 |             say that the true use of music and of choral festivities
12 2 |               that the excellence of music is to be measured by pleasure.
13 2 |          chance persons; the fairest music is that which delights the
14 2 |             and in his melodies, the music of temperate and brave and
15 2 |         introduced in dancing and in music, generally not under the
16 2 |             would like to have about music; and hence there occurred
17 2 |          principles of education and music which prevail among you
18 2 |       Athenian. Do we not regard all music as representative and imitative?~
19 2 |               when any one says that music is to be judged of by pleasure,
20 2 |        admitted; and if there be any music of which pleasure is the
21 2 |      pleasure is the criterion, such music is not to be sought out
22 2 |              only that other kind of music which is an imitation of
23 2 |            the best kind of song and music ought not to seek for that
24 2 |        imitated, whether in drawing, music, or any other art, he who
25 2 |           the peculiar difficulty of music. Music is more celebrated
26 2 |        peculiar difficulty of music. Music is more celebrated than
27 2 |             speech, and drinking and music, will change his character
28 2 |            by us to be the origin of music and gymnastic.~Cleinias.
29 2 |             we have ventured to term music.~Cleinias. We were right.~
30 2 |         Cleinias. Exactly.~Athenian. Music, which was one half of the
31 2 | Lacedaemonian, and we have discussed music and not gymnastic, what
32 2 |              more familiar than with music.~Cleinias. There will not.~
33 3 |         Marsyas and Olympus invented music, and Amphion the lyre—not
34 3 |        original subject of laws into music and drinking–bouts, the
35 3 |              speak of the laws about music—that is to say, such music
36 3 |           music—that is to say, such music as then existed—in order
37 3 |              from the beginning. Now music was early divided among
38 3 |              to confuse one style of music with another. And the authority
39 3 |           what is just and lawful in music; raging like Bacchanals
40 3 |            ignorantly affirming that music has no truth, and, whether
41 3 |     understanding of good and bad in music and poetry; and instead
42 3 |         would have been done; but in music there first arose the universal
43 3 |            was previously said about music and drinking, and what preceded,
44 4 |        performed; lyric measures and music of every other kind have
45 6 |              to appoint directors of music and gymnastic, two kinds
46 6 |          judges of gymnastics and of music; these again are divided
47 6 |            the one having to do with music, the other with gymnastics;
48 6 |              judge of horses; but in music there shall be one set of
49 6 |             some one who understands music, and he in the scrutiny
50 6 |              of the solo and concert music for that year; and he who
51 7 |              use of the dance and of music.~Cleinias. Well, Stranger,
52 7 |           the body, and the other of music, which is designed for the
53 7 |          assertion, that rhythms and music in general are imitations
54 7 |              paradox that strains of music are our laws (nomoi), and
55 7 |             be our legislators about music and as to the director of
56 7 |           they may regulate dancing, music, and all choral strains,
57 7 |              the irregular strain of music is always made ten thousand
58 7 |            the characteristic of all music. And if a man be brought
59 7 |            of the orderly and severe music, when he hears the opposite
60 7 |              in the sweet and vulgar music, he deems the severer kind
61 7 |            art of war and the art of music, and the children shall
62 7 |         girls share in gymnastic and music, while the grown–up women,
63 7 |             others. About dances and music and choral strains, I have
64 7 |             or less time in learning music than the law allows. And
65 7 |              and useful knowledge of music in three years; for opposite
66 7 |            the principles concerning music which we are laying down.
67 7 |           been elected a director of music receive these rules from
68 7 |           said about the teaching of music, let us speak in like manner
69 7 |             is to have the charge of music and gymnastic.~Cleinias.
70 7 |               combining dancing with music, and assigning to the several
71 8 |            Likewise, what relates to music has been, for the most part,
72 10|              to one another, such as music and painting create and
73 10|          failed not when drinking or music were the themes of discourse,
74 12|          they shall have contests in music and gymnastics, and in horsemanship,
75 12|           judge of dances and of all music, and the superintendents
76 12|           competitor in gymnastic or music, or any other sort of contest,
77 12|           and seen the connection of music with these things, and harmonized