Dialogue

 1 Lysis|    Moreover there are others who say that likeness is a cause
 2 Lysis|         Suppose the indifferent, say the human body, to be desirous
 3 Lysis|          to them: they could not say that friendship was only
 4 Lysis|        son of Hieronymus! do not say that you are, or that you
 5 Lysis|       know what a lover ought to say about his love, either to
 6 Lysis|          which a child might not say. Now is not that ridiculous?
 7 Lysis|     believe you.~What should you say of a hunter who frightened
 8 Lysis|    richer than the other, if you say truly that you are friends.~
 9 Lysis|      some more questions. I dare say, Lysis, I said, that your
10 Lysis|        this?~They do.~But I dare say that you may take the whip
11 Lysis|     teachers.~You do not mean to say that your teachers also
12 Lysis|      course they do.~Then I must say that your father is pleased
13 Lysis|      think not.~When I heard him say this, I turned to Hippothales,
14 Lysis|      blunder, for I was going to say to him: That is the way,
15 Lysis|       would even go further, and say the best horse or dog. Yea,
16 Lysis|      them in return. Or shall we say that they do love them,
17 Lysis|      them.~I think that what you say is true.~And, if so, not
18 Lysis|     agree, Socrates, in what you say.~But if this cannot be,
19 Lysis|         together, what are we to say? Whom are we to call friends
20 Lysis|      think, Lysis, that what you say is true, and that, if we
21 Lysis|       see what the poets have to say; for they are to us in a
22 Lysis|         but God himself, as they say, makes them and draws them
23 Lysis|         them acquainted.’~I dare say that you have heard those
24 Lysis|    treatises of philosophers who say that like must love like?
25 Lysis|       Then, my friend, those who say that the like is friendly
26 Lysis|       friend?~Certainly not.~But say that the like is not the
27 Lysis|        Have I not heard some one say, as I just now recollect,
28 Lysis|         And indeed he went on to say in grandiloquent language,
29 Lysis|          What do the rest of you say?~I should say, at first
30 Lysis|        rest of you say?~I should say, at first hearing, that
31 Lysis|        Menexenus.~Then we are to say that the greatest friendship
32 Lysis|       agree to that?~Yes.~This I say from a sort of notion that
33 Lysis|           None.~And therefore we say that those who are already
34 Lysis|          shadow only.~Why do you say so? said Menexenus.~I am
35 Lysis|   because of disease, that is to say because of evil, is the
36 Lysis|       other things, which, as we say, are dear for the sake of
37 Lysis|        And although we may often say that gold and silver are
38 Lysis|     class of things which, as we say, are neither good nor evil
39 Lysis|      perished? Or rather shall I say, that to ask what either
40 Lysis| Certainly, they both said.~And I say, my boys, that no one who
41 Lysis|         as they are like; for to say that what is useless is
42 Lysis|       true.~And shall we further say that the good is congenial,
43 Lysis|         result.~But again, if we say that the congenial is the
44 Lysis|     by-standers will go away and say—and as yet we have not been