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Dialogue
1 Parme| it might be sufficient to say, that no ancient writing 2 Parme| being many, that is to say, having many parts or members, 3 Parme| Yes.’ ‘And would you say that each man is covered 4 Parme| And would you like to say that the ideas are really 5 Parme| unconscious truth (shall we say?) or error, which underlay 6 Parme| difficulties mankind, as we may say, a little parodying the 7 Parme| he is only required to say ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ in the right 8 Parme| already offered. May we say, in Platonic language, that 9 Parme| undiscerning tribe who say that things both are and 10 Parme| are alone, though I may say with Ibycus, who in his 11 Parme| will be the most likely to say what he thinks, and his 12 Parme| one be one or many? You say one only; let us see. In 13 Parme| same thing; and when you say that the other is other 14 Parme| becomes older, that is to say, younger and older than 15 Parme| being:—do we mean by this to say that a thing, which is not, 16 Parme| it. It would be safer to say that it is an indication 17 Parme| no one has ever meant to say that three and one are to 18 Parme| Megarians. He did not mean to say that Being or Substance 19 Parme| of thought. He does not say with Bacon, ‘Let us make 20 Parme| impossibility. In all that you say have you any other purpose 21 Parme| writings too; he puts what you say in another way, and would 22 Parme| For you, in your poems, say The All is one, and of this 23 Parme| that I was many he would say that I have a right and 24 Parme| prove that I am one, he will say, that we who are here assembled 25 Parme| places at once. You mean to say, that if I were to spread 26 Parme| think so.~And would you say that the whole sail includes 27 Parme| Then would you like to say, Socrates, that the one 28 Parme| Parmenides, and what do you say of another question?~What 29 Parme| said Parmenides, if you say that everything else participates 30 Parme| the ideas, must you not say either that everything is 31 Parme| indeed.~And, further, let me say that as yet you only understand 32 Parme| ideas, being such as we say they ought to be, must remain 33 Parme| Would you, or would you not say, that absolute knowledge, 34 Parme| if they do exist, he will say that they must of necessity 35 Parme| said Socrates; and what you say is very much to my mind.~ 36 Parme| will be the most likely to say what he thinks; and his 37 Parme| else but itself; that is to say, if it were really in itself; 38 Parme| equality or of likeness?~We did say so.~And we also said, that 39 Parme| very happy to do so.~We say that we have to work out 40 Parme| Quite right.~We mean to say, that being has not the 41 Parme| them together shortly, and say ‘One is,’ that is equivalent 42 Parme| direction.~What direction?~We say that the one partakes of 43 Parme| abstract the one which, as we say, partakes of being, and 44 Parme| from that of which, as we say, it partakes—will this abstract 45 Parme| said?~Yes.~Then shall we say that the one, being in this 46 Parme| the same with it?~Let us say so.~Then it is the same 47 Parme| thing?~Yes.~And you may say the name once or oftener?~ 48 Parme| oftener?~Yes.~And when you say it once, you mention that 49 Parme| name?~True.~Then when we say that the others are other 50 Parme| It would.~But what do you say to a new point of view? 51 Parme| there be?~And do we not say that the others being other 52 Parme| younger than itself?~I should say not.~And what are its relations 53 Parme| Of course.~And shall we say that the lesser or the greater 54 Parme| things?~True.~What would you say of another question? Can 55 Parme| Yes; that is what we shall say.~But the end comes last, 56 Parme| nor younger, what shall we say? Shall we say as of being 57 Parme| what shall we say? Shall we say as of being so also of becoming, 58 Parme| answer.~But I can venture to say, that even if one thing 59 Parme| relation to a whole?~So we say.~And a whole must necessarily 60 Parme| Yes.~And we surely cannot say that what is truly one has 61 Parme| And suppose a person to say:—If greatness is not, if 62 Parme| the truth, clearly we must say what is. Am I not right?~ 63 Parme| must also affirm that we say what is?~Certainly.~Then, 64 Parme| change is motion—we may say that?~Yes, motion.~And the 65 Parme| follow.~Let us do as you say.~If one is not, we ask what 66 Parme| them?~Just so.~And when we say that a thing is not, do 67 Parme| Certainly not.~Nor can we say that it stands, if it is 68 Parme| Of course.~Then we must say that the one which is not 69 Parme| the argument in a word and say truly: If one is not, then