Dialogue

  1 Phaedo|       mentioned by name. There are Simmias and Cebes (Crito), two disciples
  2 Phaedo|     himself than they take of him. Simmias explains that Cebes is really
  3 Phaedo|     association, which from seeing Simmias may remember Cebes, or from
  4 Phaedo|           from seeing a picture of Simmias may remember Simmias. The
  5 Phaedo|            of Simmias may remember Simmias. The lyre may recall the
  6 Phaedo|           ideas.~It is objected by Simmias and Cebes that these arguments
  7 Phaedo|         behold the light of truth.~Simmias and Cebes remain in doubt;
  8 Phaedo|            more lustily than ever. Simmias acknowledges that there
  9 Phaedo|           an objection, which like Simmias he expresses in a figure.
 10 Phaedo|           in error.~At his request Simmias and Cebes repeat their objections.
 11 Phaedo|            pre-existence of ideas. Simmias is of opinion that the soul
 12 Phaedo|    playfully terms the argument of Simmias, has been happily disposed
 13 Phaedo|            or person. For example, Simmias may be said to have greatness
 14 Phaedo|          less than Phaedo. And yet Simmias is not really great and
 15 Phaedo|           order in the world. When Simmias and Cebes say that they
 16 Phaedo|       falling before the attack of Simmias. A sort of despair is introduced
 17 Phaedo|        principal interlocutors are Simmias and Cebes, the disciples
 18 Phaedo| Pythagorean philosopher of Thebes. Simmias is described in the Phaedrus
 19 Phaedo|           the weaver and his coat. Simmias, on the other hand, raises
 20 Phaedo|        Pythagorean disciple. It is Simmias, too, who first remarks
 21 Phaedo|          more consecutive thinker, Simmias more superficial and rhetorical;
 22 Phaedo|    Socrates is the protagonist and Simmias and Cebes the secondary
 23 Phaedo|             Socrates, Apollodorus, Simmias, Cebes, Crito and an Attendant
 24 Phaedo|           PHAEDO: Yes, there were; Simmias the Theban, and Cebes, and
 25 Phaedo|         Athenians say that I must.~Simmias said: What a message for
 26 Phaedo|           I think that he is, said Simmias.~Then he, or any man who
 27 Phaedo|            And have you, Cebes and Simmias, who are the disciples of
 28 Phaedo|        hears.~And certainly, added Simmias, the objection which he
 29 Phaedo|            like you to do so, said Simmias.~Then I must try to make
 30 Phaedo|           am quite ready to admit, Simmias and Cebes, that I ought
 31 Phaedo|           with you, Socrates? said Simmias. Will you not impart them
 32 Phaedo|        world. And how this may be, Simmias and Cebes, I will endeavour
 33 Phaedo|      always pursuing and desiring?~Simmias said laughingly: Though
 34 Phaedo|        desire.~And they are right, Simmias, in thinking so, with the
 35 Phaedo|         death?~To be sure, replied Simmias.~Is it not the separation
 36 Phaedo|            Certainly not, answered Simmias.~And what about the pleasures
 37 Phaedo|          body.~Very true.~Whereas, Simmias, the rest of the world are
 38 Phaedo|            there is another thing, Simmias: Is there or is there not
 39 Phaedo|           in it, Socrates, replied Simmias.~And when real philosophers
 40 Phaedo|       These are the sort of words, Simmias, which the true lovers of
 41 Phaedo|       purified.~Certainly, replied Simmias.~And what is purification
 42 Phaedo|         And the true philosophers, Simmias, are always occupied in
 43 Phaedo|          He would, indeed, replied Simmias.~And when you see a man
 44 Phaedo|       replied.~And is not courage, Simmias, a quality which is specially
 45 Phaedo|            of virtue. O my blessed Simmias, is there not one true coin
 46 Phaedo|          maintain that I am right, Simmias and Cebes, in not grieving
 47 Phaedo|           But tell me, Cebes, said Simmias, interposing, what arguments
 48 Phaedo|         you are still incredulous, Simmias, I would ask you whether
 49 Phaedo|        Incredulous, I am not, said Simmias; but I want to have this
 50 Phaedo|            manner any one who sees Simmias may remember Cebes; and
 51 Phaedo|           Endless, indeed, replied Simmias.~And recollection is most
 52 Phaedo|            and from the picture of Simmias, you may be led to remember
 53 Phaedo|         led to the recollection of Simmias himself?~Quite so.~And in
 54 Phaedo|           so?~Say so, yes, replied Simmias, and swear to it, with all
 55 Phaedo|     forgetting. Is not forgetting, Simmias, just the losing of knowledge?~
 56 Phaedo|             And which alternative, Simmias, do you prefer? Had we the
 57 Phaedo|            you are not of opinion, Simmias, that all men know these
 58 Phaedo|             previously?~Yes.~Then, Simmias, our souls must also have
 59 Phaedo|     nonsense.~Then may we not say, Simmias, that if, as we are always
 60 Phaedo|    convince him too.~I think, said Simmias, that Cebes is satisfied:
 61 Phaedo|         come to an end?~Very true, Simmias, said Cebes; about half
 62 Phaedo|          complete.~But that proof, Simmias and Cebes, has been already
 63 Phaedo|       Still I suspect that you and Simmias would be glad to probe the
 64 Phaedo|         That can never be, my dear Simmias and Cebes. The truth rather
 65 Phaedo|            And this is the reason, Simmias and Cebes, why the true
 66 Phaedo|            human ills. Never fear, Simmias and Cebes, that a soul which
 67 Phaedo|          been said; only Cebes and Simmias spoke a few words to one
 68 Phaedo|         use, allow me to help you.~Simmias said: I must confess, Socrates,
 69 Phaedo|            replied with a smile: O Simmias, what are you saying? I
 70 Phaedo|          Very good, Socrates, said Simmias; then I will tell you my
 71 Phaedo|           In this respect, replied Simmias:—Suppose a person to use
 72 Phaedo|             and said with a smile: Simmias has reason on his side;
 73 Phaedo|            not the same as that of Simmias; for I am not disposed to
 74 Phaedo|         the objection, which, like Simmias, I will express in a figure,
 75 Phaedo|         lasting remains. But that, Simmias, as I would beg you to remark,
 76 Phaedo|         not hold my ground against Simmias and Cebes, I would myself
 77 Phaedo|         This is the state of mind, Simmias and Cebes, in which I approach
 78 Phaedo|         mind what you were saying. Simmias, if I remember rightly,
 79 Phaedo|           going on. Are not these, Simmias and Cebes, the points which
 80 Phaedo|      remained absolutely unshaken. Simmias agreed, and added that he
 81 Phaedo|         other?~Not at all, replied Simmias.~And yet, he said, there
 82 Phaedo|        theme.~There ought, replied Simmias.~But there is no harmony,
 83 Phaedo|             Let me put the matter, Simmias, he said, in another point
 84 Phaedo|             I cannot tell, replied Simmias; but I suppose that something
 85 Phaedo|           speaking more correctly, Simmias, the soul, if she is a harmony,
 86 Phaedo|            have expected. For when Simmias was mentioning his difficulty,
 87 Phaedo|         you say is most true, said Simmias and Cebes, both speaking
 88 Phaedo|          and yet when you say that Simmias is greater than Socrates
 89 Phaedo|            do you not predicate of Simmias both greatness and smallness?~
 90 Phaedo|           But still you allow that Simmias does not really exceed Socrates,
 91 Phaedo|            to imply, because he is Simmias, but by reason of the size
 92 Phaedo|         size which he has; just as Simmias does not exceed Socrates
 93 Phaedo|      exceed Socrates because he is Simmias, any more than because Socrates
 94 Phaedo|     compared with the greatness of Simmias?~True.~And if Phaedo exceeds
 95 Phaedo|            greatness relatively to Simmias, who is comparatively smaller?~
 96 Phaedo|        That is true.~And therefore Simmias is said to be great, and
 97 Phaedo|          what I am saying is true.~Simmias assented.~I speak as I do
 98 Phaedo|       smallness when compared with Simmias, remain just as I was, and
 99 Phaedo|           object; but if my friend Simmias, or any one else, has any
100 Phaedo|       nothing more to say, replied Simmias; nor can I see any reason
101 Phaedo|            feebleness of man.~Yes, Simmias, replied Socrates, that
102 Phaedo|           you mean, Socrates? said Simmias. I have myself heard many
103 Phaedo|        these you put faith.~And I, Simmias, replied Socrates, if I
104 Phaedo|           even if I could, I fear, Simmias, that my life would come
105 Phaedo|     conception of them.~That, said Simmias, will be enough.~Well, then,
106 Phaedo|         surely a correct one, said Simmias.~Also I believe that the
107 Phaedo|          tell you a charming tale, Simmias, which is well worth hearing.~
108 Phaedo|          And we, Socrates, replied Simmias, shall be charmed to listen
109 Phaedo|        fail me to tell.~Wherefore, Simmias, seeing all these things,
110 Phaedo|          when her hour comes. You, Simmias and Cebes, and all other