Dialogue

 1 Phaedo|           soul acknowledged to be a harmony, and has she not the same
 2 Phaedo|        relation to the body, as the harmony—which like her is invisible—
 3 Phaedo|            to the lyre? And yet the harmony does not survive the lyre.
 4 Phaedo|          opinion that the soul is a harmony of the body. But the admission
 5 Phaedo|        difficulty in Theaet.) For a harmony is an effect, whereas the
 6 Phaedo|           an effect, but a cause; a harmony follows, but the soul leads;
 7 Phaedo|      follows, but the soul leads; a harmony admits of degrees, and the
 8 Phaedo|      supposition that the soul is a harmony, why is one soul better
 9 Phaedo|         harmonized, or is there one harmony within another? But the
10 Phaedo|             idea that the soul is a harmony of the body? Nay rather,
11 Phaedo|            Pythagorean image of the harmony, or that of the monad, the
12 Phaedo|              or of a number or of a harmony of number; or to be or have,
13 Phaedo|           raises the question about harmony and the lyre, which is naturally
14 Phaedo|       proceeding to the Pythagorean harmony and transmigration; making
15 Phaedo|             the same argument about harmony and the lyre—might he not
16 Phaedo|          lyre—might he not say that harmony is a thing invisible, incorporeal,
17 Phaedo|          the same analogy, that the harmony survives and has not perished—
18 Phaedo|            remain, and yet that the harmony, which is of heavenly and
19 Phaedo|     perished before the mortal. The harmony must still be somewhere,
20 Phaedo|           dry, then the soul is the harmony or due proportionate admixture
21 Phaedo|            that the soul, being the harmony of the elements of the body,
22 Phaedo|       discredit? That the soul is a harmony is a doctrine which has
23 Phaedo|            as she is in the form of harmony, may not perish first. On
24 Phaedo|             you still maintain that harmony is a compound, and that
25 Phaedo|              and that the soul is a harmony which is made out of strings
26 Phaedo|        allow yourself to say that a harmony is prior to the elements
27 Phaedo|           yet had no existence? For harmony is not like the soul, as
28 Phaedo|          state of discord, and then harmony is made last of all, and
29 Phaedo|            there surely ought to be harmony in a discourse of which
30 Phaedo|             in a discourse of which harmony is the theme.~There ought,
31 Phaedo|            Simmias.~But there is no harmony, he said, in the two propositions
32 Phaedo|              and that the soul is a harmony. Which of them will you
33 Phaedo|            argue that the soul is a harmony.~Let me put the matter,
34 Phaedo|         view: Do you imagine that a harmony or any other composition
35 Phaedo|           suffer?~He agreed.~Then a harmony does not, properly speaking,
36 Phaedo|          elements which make up the harmony, but only follows them.~
37 Phaedo|      follows them.~He assented.~For harmony cannot possibly have any
38 Phaedo|             not the nature of every harmony depend upon the manner in
39 Phaedo|          said.~I mean to say that a harmony admits of degrees, and is
40 Phaedo|           degrees, and is more of a harmony, and more completely a harmony,
41 Phaedo|      harmony, and more completely a harmony, when more truly and fully
42 Phaedo|             possible; and less of a harmony, and less completely a harmony,
43 Phaedo|      harmony, and less completely a harmony, when less truly and fully
44 Phaedo|           maintain the soul to be a harmony say of this presence of
45 Phaedo|            say that here is another harmony, and another discord, and
46 Phaedo|     harmonized, and herself being a harmony has another harmony within
47 Phaedo|         being a harmony has another harmony within her, and that the
48 Phaedo|             inharmonical and has no harmony within her?~I cannot tell,
49 Phaedo|          who say that the soul is a harmony.~And we have already admitted
50 Phaedo|        equivalent to admitting that harmony is not more or less harmony,
51 Phaedo|         harmony is not more or less harmony, or more or less completely
52 Phaedo|           more or less completely a harmony?~Quite true.~And that which
53 Phaedo|         which is not more or less a harmony is not more or less harmonized?~
54 Phaedo|         cannot have more or less of harmony, but only an equal harmony?~
55 Phaedo|          harmony, but only an equal harmony?~Yes, an equal harmony.~
56 Phaedo|        equal harmony?~Yes, an equal harmony.~Then one soul not being
57 Phaedo|         less of discord, nor yet of harmony?~She has not.~And having
58 Phaedo|            neither more nor less of harmony or of discord, one soul
59 Phaedo|          vice be discord and virtue harmony?~Not at all more.~Or speaking
60 Phaedo|      Simmias, the soul, if she is a harmony, will never have any vice;
61 Phaedo|            have any vice; because a harmony, being absolutely a harmony,
62 Phaedo|         harmony, being absolutely a harmony, has no part in the inharmonical.~
63 Phaedo|       assumption that the soul is a harmony?~It cannot be true.~Once
64 Phaedo| acknowledged that the soul, being a harmony, can never utter a note
65 Phaedo|             idea that the soul is a harmony capable of being led by
66 Phaedo|          far diviner thing than any harmony?~Yes, Socrates, I quite
67 Phaedo|           saying that the soul is a harmony, for we should contradict