Dialogue

 1 Phaedo|    which remains. And if we had ideas in a former state, then
 2 Phaedo|      falls with the doctrine of ideas.~It is objected by Simmias
 3 Phaedo|    denying the pre-existence of ideas. Simmias is of opinion that
 4 Phaedo|         of the pre-existence of ideas, and therefore of the soul,
 5 Phaedo|        left by him to their own ideas of right, they would long
 6 Phaedo|      the old and safe method of ideas. Though I do not mean to
 7 Phaedo| existence through the medium of ideas sees only through a glass
 8 Phaedo|   effects.’~If the existence of ideas is granted to him, Socrates
 9 Phaedo|         own; he prefers to test ideas by the consistency of their
10 Phaedo|          Phil.)~The doctrine of ideas, which has long ago received
11 Phaedo|         explaining how opposite ideas may appear to co-exist but
12 Phaedo|       affirmed, not of opposite ideas either in us or in nature,
13 Phaedo|      well as the other ‘eternal ideas; of man, has a history in
14 Phaedo|        perfect, and to whom our ideas of perfection give us a
15 Phaedo|       attained to it.~6. Again, ideas must be given through something;
16 Phaedo| realities to them, but words or ideas; the outward symbols of
17 Phaedo|       to imagine that our moral ideas are to be attributed only
18 Phaedo|  theological nihilism, that the ideas of justice and truth and
19 Phaedo|    depth and power of our moral ideas which seem to partake of
20 Phaedo|        it is in the language of ideas only that we speak of them.~
21 Phaedo|      soul; the contemplation of ideas ‘under the form of eternity’
22 Phaedo| separation of soul and body. If ideas were separable from phenomena,
23 Phaedo|   separable from matter; if the ideas were eternal, the mind that
24 Phaedo|        how much the doctrine of ideas was also one of words, it
25 Phaedo|        the impersonation of the ideas. Such a conception, which
26 Phaedo|        Whence come our abstract ideas?’ he could only answer by
27 Phaedo|       the Republic, a system of ideas, tested, not by experience,
28 Phaedo|     modern equivalents. ‘If the ideas of men are eternal, their
29 Phaedo|         eternal, and if not the ideas, then not the souls.’ Such
30 Phaedo|      soul after death.’ For the ideas are to his mind the reality,
31 Phaedo|   persuaded of the existence of ideas than they are of the immortality
32 Phaedo|         are more certain of our ideas of truth and right than
33 Phaedo|        the existence of eternal ideas of which the soul is a partaker;
34 Phaedo|       doubtful. The doctrine of ideas is certainly carried beyond
35 Phaedo|        at which the doctrine of ideas appears to be forgotten.
36 Phaedo|  connected with the doctrine of ideas. In the Meno the theory
37 Phaedo|       In the Meno the theory of ideas is based on the ancient
38 Phaedo|         is inseparable from the ideas, and belongs to the world
39 Phaedo|         resort to the method of ideas, which to us appear only
40 Phaedo|         explain the relation of ideas to phenomena, nor their
41 Phaedo|       safe and simple method of ideas. He wants to have proved
42 Phaedo|       takes refuge in universal ideas. And are not we at this
43 Phaedo|         the less, but all other ideas; for we are not speaking
44 Phaedo|     compare them, finding these ideas to be pre-existent and our
45 Phaedo|       the same proof that these ideas must have existed before
46 Phaedo|       were born; and if not the ideas, then not the souls.~Yes,
47 Phaedo|        misologists or haters of ideas, and both spring from the
48 Phaedo|         be the turmoil of their ideas. But you, if you are a philosopher,
49 Phaedo|     admitted, and they had that ideas exist, and that other things
50 Phaedo|       Then not only do opposite ideas repel the advance of one