Dialogue

  1 Phaedr|          of Plato on the nature of love, which in the Republic and
  2 Phaedr|         the Phaedrus and Symposium love and philosophy join hands,
  3 Phaedr|         subject of the Dialogue is love or rhetoric, or the union
  4 Phaedr|          relation of philosophy to love and to art in general, and
  5 Phaedr|            the nature and power of love. For this is a necessary
  6 Phaedr|        this is the master power of love.~Here Socrates fancies that
  7 Phaedr|            is drunk. At length his love ceases; he is converted
  8 Phaedr|     disagreeables, that ‘As wolves love lambs so lovers love their
  9 Phaedr|        wolves love lambs so lovers love their loves.’ (Compare Char.)
 10 Phaedr|          blasphemed the majesty of love. His palinode takes the
 11 Phaedr|            kind of madness—that of love—which cannot be explained
 12 Phaedr|           him is by mortals called love, but the immortals call
 13 Phaedr|    attendants of Here find a royal love; and in like manner the
 14 Phaedr|      followers of every god seek a love who is like their god; and
 15 Phaedr|           in which they take their love is as follows:—~I told you
 16 Phaedr|             approach the vision of love. And now a fierce conflict
 17 Phaedr|     consummated; the same image of love dwells in the breast of
 18 Phaedr|         These are the blessings of love, and thus have I made my
 19 Phaedr|        they died of hunger for the love of song. And they carry
 20 Phaedr|            the Phaedrus treated of love or rhetoric. But the truth
 21 Phaedr|         art of rhetoric; secondly, love or the inspiration of beauty
 22 Phaedr|        sort of inspiration akin to love (compare Symp.); in these
 23 Phaedr|           based upon enthusiasm or love of the ideas going before
 24 Phaedr|      writing proceeds accordingly. Love, again, has three degrees:
 25 Phaedr|      degrees: first, of interested love corresponding to the conventionalities
 26 Phaedr|            of disinterested or mad love, fixed on objects of sense,
 27 Phaedr|          thirdly, of disinterested love directed towards the unseen,
 28 Phaedr|            style in which the wise love to talk’ (Symp.). The characteristics
 29 Phaedr|        begins with a definition of love, and he gives weight to
 30 Phaedr|        Socrates. First, passionate love is overthrown by the sophistical
 31 Phaedr|       yield to that higher view of love which is afterwards revealed
 32 Phaedr|            other discussions about love, what Plato says of the
 33 Phaedr|            work out the problem of love without regard to the distinctions
 34 Phaedr|          from the spurious form of love, he proceeds with a deep
 35 Phaedr|        show that the ‘non-lover’s’ love is better than the ‘lover’
 36 Phaedr|         preferable with or without love? ‘Among ourselves,’ as we
 37 Phaedr|            he would say, a ‘little love at the beginning,’ for heaven
 38 Phaedr|          lower, holy and unholy, a love of the mind and a love of
 39 Phaedr|           a love of the mind and a love of the body.~‘Let me not
 40 Phaedr|           minds Admit impediments. Love is not love Which alters
 41 Phaedr|           impediments. Love is not love Which alters when it alteration
 42 Phaedr|           it alteration finds.~...~Love’s not time’s fool, though
 43 Phaedr|     bending sickle’s compass come; Love alters not with his brief
 44 Phaedr|            of doom.’~But this true love of the mind cannot exist
 45 Phaedr|           life. And although their love of one another was ever
 46 Phaedr|          acknowledge also a higher love of duty and of God, which
 47 Phaedr|            many struggles the true love was found: how the two passed
 48 Phaedr|        blasphemous towards the god Love, and as worthy only of some
 49 Phaedr|          upon the supposition that love is and ought to be interested,
 50 Phaedr|   conceived. ‘But did I call this “love”? O God, forgive my blasphemy.
 51 Phaedr|          my blasphemy. This is not love. Rather it is the love of
 52 Phaedr|         not love. Rather it is the love of the world. But there
 53 Phaedr|        there is another kingdom of love, a kingdom not of this world,
 54 Phaedr|            eternal. And this other love I will now show you in a
 55 Phaedr|          of philosophy, or perfect love of the unseen, is total
 56 Phaedr|       serious, again, in regarding love as ‘a madness’? That seems
 57 Phaedr|           the former conception of love. At the same time he appears
 58 Phaedr|  represented as the inspiration of love is a conception that has
 59 Phaedr|           The master in the art of love knew that there was a mystery
 60 Phaedr|   existence. The capriciousness of love is also derived by him from
 61 Phaedr|        final consummation of their love, seems likewise to hint
 62 Phaedr|      rather than stimulates vulgar love,—a heavenly beauty like
 63 Phaedr| unnecessary to enquire whether the love of which Plato speaks is
 64 Phaedr|          which Plato speaks is the love of men or of women. It is
 65 Phaedr|           is not to be denied that love and philosophy are described
 66 Phaedr|             there are two kinds of love, a lower and a higher, the
 67 Phaedr|         between these two kinds of love may be compared to the opposition
 68 Phaedr|           Two other thoughts about love are suggested by this passage.
 69 Phaedr|        this passage. First of all, love is represented here, as
 70 Phaedr|        times of Hellas; the higher love, of which Plato speaks,
 71 Phaedr|        definition of the nature of love, and no order in the topics (
 72 Phaedr|           dialogue which treats of love must necessarily have been
 73 Phaedr|          feeling, the enthusiastic love of the good, the true, the
 74 Phaedr|         desire for consistency, no love of knowledge for its own
 75 Phaedr|         more liberal thoughts. The love of mankind may be the source
 76 Phaedr|           is one of your sort, for love was the theme which occupied
 77 Phaedr|            theme which occupied us—love after a fashion: Lysias
 78 Phaedr|          discourse. Now, much as I love you, I would not have you
 79 Phaedr|    consider how by reason of their love they have neglected their
 80 Phaedr|           be esteemed, because his love is thought to be greater;
 81 Phaedr|          he will prefer any future love to his present, and will
 82 Phaedr|            and will injure his old love at the pleasure of the new.
 83 Phaedr|          meet about some affair of love either past or in contemplation;
 84 Phaedr|   non-lovers, and whose success in love is the reward of their merit,
 85 Phaedr|            by the former; for more love than hatred may be expected
 86 Phaedr|           Such are the feats which love exhibits; he makes things
 87 Phaedr|   advantage, being not mastered by love, but my own master; nor
 88 Phaedr|        have loyal friends, for our love of them arises not from
 89 Phaedr|          empty soul; for they will love you, and attend you, and
 90 Phaedr|            those who are worthy of love; nor to those who will enjoy
 91 Phaedr|          censure of the world. Now love ought to be for the advantage
 92 Phaedr|            I lay a finger upon his love! And so, Phaedrus, you really
 93 Phaedr|          the youth that he did not love him, but he really loved
 94 Phaedr|            the nature and power of love, and then, keeping our eyes
 95 Phaedr|            further enquire whether love brings advantage or disadvantage.~‘
 96 Phaedr| disadvantage.~‘Every one sees that love is a desire, and we know
 97 Phaedr|        receiving a name, is called love (erromenos eros).’~And now,
 98 Phaedr|            not only hurtful to his love; he is also an extremely
 99 Phaedr|         him. For he is old and his love is young, and neither day
100 Phaedr|             And not only while his love continues is he mischievous
101 Phaedr|           unpleasant, but when his love ceases he becomes a perfidious
102 Phaedr|         another master; instead of love and infatuation, wisdom
103 Phaedr|          feed upon you:~‘As wolves love lambs so lovers love their
104 Phaedr|        wolves love lambs so lovers love their loves.’~But I told
105 Phaedr|           the cool.~SOCRATES: Your love of discourse, Phaedrus,
106 Phaedr|          drew from my lips. For if love be, as he surely is, a divinity,
107 Phaedr|           recantation for reviling love before I suffer; and this
108 Phaedr|         imagined that our ideas of love were taken from some haunt
109 Phaedr|        also because I am afraid of Love himself, I desire to wash
110 Phaedr|          let him further show that love is not sent by the gods
111 Phaedr|            him that the madness of love is the greatest of heaven’
112 Phaedr|          talking, is by men called love, and among the gods has
113 Phaedr|        Mortals call him fluttering love, But the immortals call
114 Phaedr|        when under the influence of love, if they fancy that they
115 Phaedr|   existence. Every one chooses his love from the ranks of beauty
116 Phaedr|            beloved, wherefore they love him all the more, and if,
117 Phaedr|     followers of Here seek a royal love, and when they have found
118 Phaedr|          ways of their god, seek a love who is to be made like him
119 Phaedr|            god, and persuade their love to do the same, and educate
120 Phaedr|         into the mysteries of true love, if he be captured by the
121 Phaedr|   charioteer beholds the vision of love, and has his whole soul
122 Phaedr|            to remember the joys of love. They at first indignantly
123 Phaedr|          which Zeus when he was in love with Ganymede named Desire,
124 Phaedr|           of the beloved also with love. And thus he loves, but
125 Phaedr|          he is longed for, and has love’s image, love for love (
126 Phaedr|         for, and has love’s image, love for love (Anteros) lodging
127 Phaedr|         has love’s image, love for love (Anteros) lodging in his
128 Phaedr|       calls and believes to be not love but friendship only, and
129 Phaedr|        either at the time of their love or afterwards. They consider
130 Phaedr|           obtain no mean reward of love and madness. For those who
131 Phaedr|           plumage because of their love.~Thus great are the heavenly
132 Phaedr|            take from me the art of love which thou hast given me,
133 Phaedr|         dedicate himself wholly to love and to philosophical discourses.~
134 Phaedr|        them on earth. They win the love of Terpsichore for the dancers
135 Phaedr|            Now to which class does love belong—to the debatable
136 Phaedr|          if not, do you think that love would have allowed you to
137 Phaedr|          tell me whether I defined love at the beginning of my speech?
138 Phaedr|            insist on our supposing love to be something or other
139 Phaedr|        they have shown, when their love is over.’~SOCRATES: Here
140 Phaedr|          of them, for, as I said, ‘love is a madness.’~PHAEDRUS:
141 Phaedr|          spoke of the affection of love in a figure, into which
142 Phaedr|           also a hymn in honour of Love, who is your lord and also
143 Phaedr|            as in our definition of love, which whether true or false
144 Phaedr|        them an evil or left-handed love which he justly reviled;
145 Phaedr|          right side, found another love, also having the same name,
146 Phaedr|           letters, from a paternal love of your own children have