Dialogue

 1 Phaedr|            the Dialogue is love or rhetoric, or the union of the two,
 2 Phaedr|        study philosophy instead of rhetoric, and then he will not mislead
 3 Phaedr|        true art is truth’; whereas rhetoric is an art of enchantment,
 4 Phaedr|         see therefore that even in rhetoric an element of truth is required.
 5 Phaedr|        illustrations of the art of rhetoric; first distinguishing between
 6 Phaedr|           by dialectic, and not by rhetoric, of which the remains are
 7 Phaedr|   absurdities of Polus and others, rhetoric has great power in public
 8 Phaedr|           taught in the schools of rhetoric; it is nearer akin to philosophy.
 9 Phaedr|     derived his eloquence not from rhetoric but from the philosophy
10 Phaedr|         learnt of Anaxagoras. True rhetoric is like medicine, and the
11 Phaedr|         such an art, is the art of rhetoric.~I know that there are some
12 Phaedr|          masters who are the gods. Rhetoric has a fair beginning in
13 Phaedr|        Phaedrus treated of love or rhetoric. But the truth is that Plato
14 Phaedr|       false or conventional art of rhetoric; secondly, love or the inspiration
15 Phaedr|       division; fourthly, the true rhetoric, which is based upon dialectic,
16 Phaedr|            reappears throughout is rhetoric; this is the ground into
17 Phaedr|            an example of the false rhetoric; the first speech of Socrates,
18 Phaedr| illustration of the higher or true rhetoric. This higher rhetoric is
19 Phaedr|         true rhetoric. This higher rhetoric is based upon dialectic,
20 Phaedr|   philosophy the technicalities of rhetoric are absorbed. And so the
21 Phaedr|           the conventionalities of rhetoric; secondly, of disinterested
22 Phaedr|          ideas. Lastly, the art of rhetoric in the lower sense is found
23 Phaedr|             The characteristics of rhetoric are insipidity, mannerism,
24 Phaedr|       escaped from the trammels of rhetoric), seems to be that the two
25 Phaedr|        text for his examination of rhetoric, he characterizes it as
26 Phaedr|            criticism on the first. Rhetoric is assailed on various grounds:
27 Phaedr|   principles. But dialectic is not rhetoric; nothing on that subject
28 Phaedr|           the endless treatises of rhetoric, however prolific in hard
29 Phaedr|            The names dialectic and rhetoric are passing out of use;
30 Phaedr|    degenerating into sophistry and rhetoric? We can discourse and write
31 Phaedr|            extant remains, insipid rhetoric is far more characteristic
32 Phaedr|            Phaedrus is to satirize Rhetoric, or rather the Professors
33 Phaedr|           rather the Professors of Rhetoric who swarmed at Athens in
34 Phaedr|    rhetoricians. The profession of rhetoric was the greatest and most
35 Phaedr|          the latter. The spirit of rhetoric was soon to overspread all
36 Phaedr|          will be the harvest which rhetoric will be likely to gather
37 Phaedr|        good.~SOCRATES: But perhaps rhetoric has been getting too roughly
38 Phaedr|           speaks falsely, and that rhetoric is a mere routine and trick,
39 Phaedr|         question.~SOCRATES: Is not rhetoric, taken generally, a universal
40 Phaedr|         you have only heard of the rhetoric of Nestor and Odysseus,
41 Phaedr|          at Troy, and never of the rhetoric of Palamedes?~PHAEDRUS:
42 Phaedr|         will only attain an art of rhetoric which is ridiculous and
43 Phaedr|         deceived, and in which has rhetoric the greater power?~PHAEDRUS:
44 Phaedr|          suggestive to students of rhetoric.~PHAEDRUS: In what way?~
45 Phaedr|          not be that famous art of rhetoric which Thrasymachus and others
46 Phaedr|           we are in the dark about rhetoric.~SOCRATES: What do you mean?
47 Phaedr|            to be found in books of rhetoric?~SOCRATES: Yes; thank you
48 Phaedr|          have to say of the art of rhetoric: have you anything to add?~
49 Phaedr|         What power has this art of rhetoric, and when?~PHAEDRUS: A very
50 Phaedr|            to define the nature of rhetoric, and consequently suppose
51 Phaedr|        fancy that the whole art of rhetoric has been taught by them;
52 Phaedr|          Socrates, that the art of rhetoric which these men teach and
53 Phaedr|            and how the true art of rhetoric and persuasion is to be
54 Phaedr|         far as there is an art, of rhetoric does not lie in the direction
55 Phaedr|       PHAEDRUS: Explain.~SOCRATES: Rhetoric is like medicine.~PHAEDRUS:
56 Phaedr|         the nature of the body and rhetoric of the soul—if we would
57 Phaedr|           any one else who teaches rhetoric in earnest will give an
58 Phaedr|            of the so-called art of rhetoric, or am I to look for another?~
59 Phaedr|          is what the professors of rhetoric do actually say, Socrates.
60 Phaedr|          do not mind going so far, rhetoric has a fair beginning here.~
61 Phaedr|         you can speak or act about rhetoric in a manner which will be
62 Phaedr|         play is played out; and of rhetoric enough. Go and tell Lysias
63 Phaedr|         will not be satisfied with rhetoric, but that there is in him