Dialogue

 1 Phaedr|           spending the morning with Lysias, the celebrated rhetorician,
 2 Phaedr|            up the speech with which Lysias has regaled him, and which
 3 Phaedr|             will read the speech of Lysias. The country is a novelty
 4 Phaedr|          speech better than that of Lysias on the same theme, and also
 5 Phaedr|        never again hear a speech of Lysias unless he fulfils his promise,
 6 Phaedr|            to attribute my error to Lysias, who ought to study philosophy
 7 Phaedr|             he will lose conceit of Lysias, and that Lysias will be
 8 Phaedr|         conceit of Lysias, and that Lysias will be out of conceit with
 9 Phaedr|             which they can reproach Lysias in being a writer; but there
10 Phaedr|         definition in the speech of Lysias; nor is there any order
11 Phaedr|     Phaedrus undertakes to carry to Lysias from the local deities,
12 Phaedr|            Phaedrus.’ The speech of Lysias which has thrown Phaedrus
13 Phaedr|        speech was really written by Lysias is improbable. Like the
14 Phaedr| rhetoricians. Even in the speech of Lysias there is a germ of truth,
15 Phaedr|       humour, takes the disguise of Lysias, but he is also in profound
16 Phaedr|        Dialogue are (1) the ages of Lysias and Isocrates; (2) the character
17 Phaedr|          the character of the work.~Lysias was born in the year 458;
18 Phaedr|              Who would imagine that Lysias, who is here assailed by
19 Phaedr| characteristic of Isocrates than of Lysias.) But Plato makes use of
20 Phaedr|           to the aristocratical, as Lysias to the democratical party.~
21 Phaedr|        going?~PHAEDRUS: I come from Lysias the son of Cephalus, and
22 Phaedr|        SOCRATES: There he is right. Lysias then, I suppose, was in
23 Phaedr|             wrong in supposing that Lysias gave you a feast of discourse?~
24 Phaedr|             conversation of you and Lysias ‘a thing of higher import,’
25 Phaedr|            us—love after a fashion: Lysias has been writing about a
26 Phaedr|             sure that the speech of Lysias was repeated to him, not
27 Phaedr|      hearing it many times over and Lysias was very willing to gratify
28 Phaedr|             my expense, if you have Lysias himself here.~PHAEDRUS:
29 Phaedr|          have been defended even by Lysias himself; I thought, though
30 Phaedr|           speech as good as that of Lysias, and different. Now I am
31 Phaedr|             suppose me to mean that Lysias has altogether missed the
32 Phaedr|       longer and better speech than Lysias, and use other arguments,
33 Phaedr|       improve upon the ingenuity of Lysias?~PHAEDRUS: There I have
34 Phaedr|            be of me to compete with Lysias in an extempore speech!
35 Phaedr|             was not acknowledged by Lysias in his speech, nor by you
36 Phaedr|         spring; and I would counsel Lysias not to delay, but to write
37 Phaedr|           praises of the lover, and Lysias shall be compelled by me
38 Phaedr|           our first speeches, blame Lysias, who is the father of the
39 Phaedr|             I shall lose conceit of Lysias, and that he will appear
40 Phaedr|        ill-disposed, would reproach Lysias with being an author?~PHAEDRUS:
41 Phaedr|           what is badly—need we ask Lysias, or any other poet or orator,
42 Phaedr|           of them, in the speech of Lysias which you have in your hand,
43 Phaedr|          read me the first words of Lysias’ speech.~PHAEDRUS: ‘You
44 Phaedr|            better rhetoricians than Lysias the son of Cephalus. Alas!
45 Phaedr|          perhaps I am mistaken; and Lysias at the commencement of his
46 Phaedr|            said of the discourse of Lysias? See whether you can find
47 Phaedr|            would give to your or to Lysias’ disciples, and whether
48 Phaedr|             lie in the direction of Lysias or Thrasymachus.~PHAEDRUS:
49 Phaedr|         whether you have heard from Lysias or any one else anything
50 Phaedr|         conclusion?~SOCRATES: About Lysias, whom we censured, and his
51 Phaedr|              SOCRATES: That whether Lysias or any other writer that
52 Phaedr|        rhetoric enough. Go and tell Lysias that to the fountain and
53 Phaedr|         soars above the orations of Lysias, and that his character
54 Phaedr|            do you give the other to Lysias, who is yours.~PHAEDRUS: