Dialogue

 1 Phileb|         asked, whether pleasure or wisdom is the chief good, or some
 2 Phileb|           latter, how pleasure and wisdom are related to this higher
 3 Phileb|      combined life of pleasure and wisdom or knowledge has more of
 4 Phileb|          Pleasure is of the first, wisdom or knowledge of the third
 5 Phileb|           the third, to reason and wisdom; the fourth, to knowledge
 6 Phileb|    relative places of pleasure and wisdom. Plato has been saying that
 7 Phileb| comparative claims of pleasure and wisdom to rank as the chief good
 8 Phileb|            than either pleasure or wisdom, and then neither of them
 9 Phileb|        eligibility of pleasure and wisdom:’ Socrates replies, that
10 Phileb|           world? And this cause is wisdom or mind, the royal mind
11 Phileb|          no reason why the life of wisdom should not exist in this
12 Phileb|       unchangeable. And reason and wisdom are concerned with the eternal;
13 Phileb|            too happy to dwell with wisdom. Secondly, ask the arts
14 Phileb| comparative claims of pleasure and wisdom.~Which has the greater share
15 Phileb|     greater share of truth? Surely wisdom; for pleasure is the veriest
16 Phileb|        proverb.~Which of symmetry? Wisdom again; for nothing is more
17 Phileb|        Which of beauty? Once more, wisdom; for pleasure is often unseemly,
18 Phileb|           perfect.~Third, mind and wisdom.~Fourth, sciences and arts
19 Phileb|       philosopher is seeking after wisdom and not after pleasure,
20 Phileb|            embodied a divine love, wisdom, patience, reasonableness.
21 Phileb|            from holiness, harmony, wisdom, love. By the slight addition ‘
22 Phileb|          pleasure, not virtue, not wisdom, nor yet any quality which
23 Phileb|           holiness, justice, love, wisdom, truth; these are to God,
24 Phileb|        another,—justice, holiness, wisdom, love, without succession
25 Phileb|       contend, that not these, but wisdom and intelligence and memory,
26 Phileb|           pleasure, and I say that wisdom, is such a state?~PROTARCHUS:
27 Phileb|           akin to pleasure than to wisdom, the life of pleasure may
28 Phileb|         advantage over the life of wisdom.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES:
29 Phileb|           is more nearly allied to wisdom, then wisdom conquers, and
30 Phileb|      nearly allied to wisdom, then wisdom conquers, and pleasure is
31 Phileb|            man has pleasure in his wisdom? and how foolish would any
32 Phileb|           SOCRATES: Ask me whether wisdom and science and mind, and
33 Phileb|          to be called the good, or wisdom, or some third quality;
34 Phileb|            has found a treasure of wisdom; in the first enthusiasm
35 Phileb|        eligibility of pleasure and wisdom?~PHILEBUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES:
36 Phileb|           of them, and the same of wisdom.~SOCRATES: Most true, O
37 Phileb|     discussions about pleasure and wisdom, whether awake or in a dream
38 Phileb|          pleasure from the life of wisdom, and pass them in review.~
39 Phileb|          SOCRATES: Let there be no wisdom in the life of pleasure,
40 Phileb|            pleasure in the life of wisdom, for if either of them is
41 Phileb|        Reflect; would you not want wisdom and intelligence and forethought,
42 Phileb|            consent to live, having wisdom and mind and knowledge and
43 Phileb|          of pleasure with mind and wisdom?~SOCRATES: Yes, that is
44 Phileb|            belonged to pleasure or wisdom?~PROTARCHUS: We were.~SOCRATES:
45 Phileb|         mixed life of pleasure and wisdom was the conqueror—did we
46 Phileb|          without irreverence place wisdom and knowledge and mind?
47 Phileb|        marvellous intelligence and wisdom.~PROTARCHUS: Wide asunder
48 Phileb|          too all the attributes of wisdom;—we cannot, I say, imagine
49 Phileb|           and may be justly called wisdom and mind?~PROTARCHUS: Most
50 Phileb|         Most justly.~SOCRATES: And wisdom and mind cannot exist without
51 Phileb|            man chooses the life of wisdom, there is no reason why
52 Phileb|            the life of thought and wisdom.~PROTARCHUS: Yes, certainly,
53 Phileb|            all the virtues, is not wisdom the one which the mass of
54 Phileb|    contention and lying conceit of wisdom?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly.~
55 Phileb|         vain conceit of beauty, of wisdom, and of wealth, are ridiculous
56 Phileb|     SOCRATES: And are not mind and wisdom the names which are to be
57 Phileb|          ingredients, pleasure and wisdom, and we may be compared
58 Phileb|        name they are two, and that wisdom partakes more than pleasure
59 Phileb|            imaginary separation of wisdom and pleasure, assigning
60 Phileb|           was wholly excluded from wisdom, and wisdom in like manner
61 Phileb|          excluded from wisdom, and wisdom in like manner had no part
62 Phileb|            and assuming memory and wisdom and knowledge and true opinion
63 Phileb|          wanting to him? And about wisdom I ask the same question;
64 Phileb|           would choose to have all wisdom absolutely devoid of pleasure,
65 Phileb|          or all pleasure devoid of wisdom, rather than with a certain
66 Phileb|           with a certain degree of wisdom?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly not,
67 Phileb|      fountain of honey; the other, wisdom, a sober draught in which
68 Phileb|        pleasure with every sort of wisdom?~PROTARCHUS: Perhaps we
69 Phileb|          daughters of pleasure and wisdom to answer for themselves.~
70 Phileb|        rather live with or without wisdom? I am of opinion that they
71 Phileb|            go back and interrogate wisdom and mind: Would you like
72 Phileb|         enough whether pleasure or wisdom is more akin to the highest
73 Phileb|     pleasure has more of this than wisdom, or wisdom than pleasure?~
74 Phileb|            of this than wisdom, or wisdom than pleasure?~PROTARCHUS:
75 Phileb|            saw or imagined mind or wisdom to be in aught unseemly,
76 Phileb|            the third dass mind and wisdom, you will not be far wrong,