Dialogue

 1 Phileb|       kinds of pleasure, true and false opinion, the nature of the
 2 Phileb|         and insists that the term false may be applied to them:
 3 Phileb|   although the calculation may be false, or the after-effects painful.
 4 Phileb|        like opinions, be true and false? In the sense of being real,
 5 Phileb|           that there are true and false pleasures, we all acknowledge
 6 Phileb|        them may be either true or false; and they may represent
 7 Phileb|     sometimes true, and sometimes false; for the good, who are the
 8 Phileb|           the future, and the bad false ones. And as there may be
 9 Phileb|   pleasure still,—that is to say, false pleasure; and only when
10 Phileb|           pleasure; and only when false, can pleasure, like opinion,
11 Phileb|           that some pleasures are false from another point of view.
12 Phileb|       pleasures and pains are not false because based upon false
13 Phileb|          false because based upon false opinion, but are themselves
14 Phileb|       opinion, but are themselves false. And there is another illusion:
15 Phileb|     impure—the art which uses the false rule and the false measure?
16 Phileb|       uses the false rule and the false measure? That we must, if
17 Phileb|          been undermined in us by false philosophy or the practice
18 Phileb|    expression we seem to detect a false ring, for pleasure is individual
19 Phileb|          are speaking are true or false? or some true and some false?~
20 Phileb|      false? or some true and some false?~PROTARCHUS: But how, Socrates,
21 Phileb|            Socrates, can there be false pleasures and pains?~SOCRATES:
22 Phileb| Protarchus, can there be true and false fears, or true and false
23 Phileb|          false fears, or true and false expectations, or true and
24 Phileb|         expectations, or true and false opinions?~PROTARCHUS: I
25 Phileb|           opinions may be true or false, but not pleasures.~SOCRATES:
26 Phileb|           that some pleasures are false, and others true?~PROTARCHUS:
27 Phileb|          opinion be both true and false, and pleasure true only,
28 Phileb|    opinion which is not true, but false?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly it
29 Phileb|       were saying, the opinion is false, but no one could call the
30 Phileb|          call the actual pleasure false.~SOCRATES: How eagerly,
31 Phileb|          there is such a thing as false, and also such a thing as
32 Phileb|          upon these—upon true and false opinion, I mean.~PROTARCHUS:
33 Phileb|     writes falsely, the result is false.~PROTARCHUS: I quite assent
34 Phileb|        and words are true, and to false opinions and words false;
35 Phileb|          false opinions and words false; are they not?~PROTARCHUS:
36 Phileb|    presented to them, and the bad false pictures?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly.~
37 Phileb|           I presume that they are false pleasures.~PROTARCHUS: They
38 Phileb|          then commonly delight in false pleasures, and the good
39 Phileb|          upon this view there are false pleasures in the souls of
40 Phileb|        And this was the source of false opinion and opining; am
41 Phileb|          like; are they not often false?~PROTARCHUS: Quite so.~SOCRATES:
42 Phileb|           far as they are true or false?~PROTARCHUS: In no other
43 Phileb|      except in so far as they are false.~PROTARCHUS: Nay, Socrates,
44 Phileb|        pains bad because they are false, but by reason of some other
45 Phileb|      argument that there are many false pleasures existing or coming
46 Phileb|        the opinions were true and false, and infected the pleasures
47 Phileb|           are said to be true and false because they are seen at
48 Phileb|      beings, which are still more false than these.~PROTARCHUS:
49 Phileb|      uncertain art which uses the false measure and the false circle?~
50 Phileb|         the false measure and the false circle?~PROTARCHUS: Yes,