Dialogue

 1 Phileb|           who has been a hearer of Gorgias, is supposed to begin as
 2 Phileb|        occurs both here and in the Gorgias, of the simultaneousness
 3 Phileb|           between the Philebus and Gorgias. The theory of the simultaneousness
 4 Phileb|     allusion to the passage in the Gorgias, in which Socrates dilates
 5 Phileb| discrepancy in the manner in which Gorgias and his art are spoken of
 6 Phileb|        refutation of the claims of Gorgias is not necessary for his
 7 Phileb|             Socrates, I have heard Gorgias say that rhetoric is the
 8 Phileb|       truth which they attain—here Gorgias will not care to compete;
 9 Phileb|            do not let us appeal to Gorgias or Philebus or Socrates,
10 Phileb|             in the language of the Gorgias, ‘did what they would.’
11 Phileb|     PROTARCHUS: I have often heard Gorgias maintain, Socrates, that
12 Phileb|          useful an art. And as for Gorgias, if you do not deny that
13 Phileb|           you or me or Philebus or Gorgias, and urge on behalf of the