Dialogue

1003  Prot|               converses with the most ordinary Lacedaemonian, he will find
1004 Intro|               life, and ignorance the origin of all evil: for no one
1005 Intro|             poets as a substitute for original conversation, which is intended
1006 Intro|              five virtues, which were originally maintained to have five
1007  Prot|            base fears and confidences originate in ignorance and uninstructedness?~
1008  Prot|               suppose that he went to Orthagoras the Theban, and heard him
1009 Intro|          great personage’ is somewhat ostentatious, but frank and honest. He
1010 Intro|           remarks, Socrates and Plato outstep the truth—they make a part
1011  Prot|              them, and then say which outweighs the other. If you weigh
1012  Prot|      knowledge which is in him may be overmastered by anger, or pleasure, or
1013  Prot|               to choose an arbiter or overseer or president; he will keep
1014  Prot|            was aware that if he could overthrow this saying, then, as if
1015  Prot|      afterwards prosecuted for theft, owing to the blunder of Epimetheus.~
1016  Prot|              for horses; and some for oxen only, and some for dogs;
1017  Prot|               him and he is angry, he pacifies his anger and is reconciled,
1018  Prot|              tendency is to make life painless and pleasant? The honourable
1019  Prot|              said, affirm this of the painter and of the carpenter also:
1020  Prot|               ask us: In what are the painters wise? We should answer:
1021  Prot|           Zeuxippus would answer, ‘In painting.’ And suppose that he went
1022  Prot|            hear (Borrowed by Milton, “Paradise Lost”.).’~At length, when
1023  Prot|            and that holiness is just.~Pardon me, I replied; I do not
1024 Intro|             when they pass out of the parental control. (4) Nor need we
1025 Intro|          Phaedrus, and with his other parodies, e.g. with the two first
1026 Intro|            Lacedaemonians, which is a parody of the claims advanced for
1027  Prot|           opinion that every man is a partaker of it. And I will now endeavour
1028  Prot|            then the band of listeners parted regularly on either side;
1029 Intro|              or three blows. Socrates partially gains his object in the
1030  Prot|              I said, the things which participate in pleasure or create pleasure?~
1031  Prot|            side. But we should not be partisans either of Socrates or of
1032 Intro|               Protagoras, how the two passages of Simonides are to be reconciled.
1033  Prot|             sit down and tell me what passed, and my attendant here shall
1034  Prot|              tinker, cobbler, sailor, passenger; rich and poor, high and
1035 Intro|              real Socrates is already passing into the Platonic one. At
1036 Intro|              knowledge is overcome by passion? or does he hold that knowledge
1037  Prot|              does not retaliate for a past wrong which cannot be undone;
1038  Prot|          justice and wisdom, they are patient enough of any man who speaks
1039  Prot|        physicians always forbid their patients the use of oil in their
1040  Prot|              laws, and live after the pattern which they furnish, and
1041  Prot|               not, then, O my friend, pause, and do not hazard your
1042  Prot|      introduced the following mode of payment:—When a man has been my
1043  Prot|            compromise. Let us be your peacemakers. And do not you, Socrates,
1044  Prot|          corresponding thing having a peculiar function, no one of them
1045 Intro|               which are valueless and pedantic, because they are not based
1046  Prot|       Lacedaemonians, and any one may perceive that their wisdom was of
1047  Prot|           taught.’ Now I, Protagoras, perceiving this terrible confusion
1048  Prot|              For there is far greater peril in buying knowledge than
1049  Prot|              tell me whether I may be permitted to give this answer on your
1050  Prot|           unprovided, he was terribly perplexed. Now while he was in this
1051  Prot|              Now while he was in this perplexity, Prometheus came to inspect
1052  Prot|          retires of himself; or if he persist, he is dragged away or put
1053 Intro|             the Poets. The two latter personages have been already damaged
1054  Prot|             as I say. And let me also persuade you to choose an arbiter
1055  Prot|               difficulty, the man was persuaded to open the door.~When we
1056  Prot|            way into great cities, and persuading the flower of the youth
1057  Prot|        Apollodorus and the brother of Phason, gave a tremendous thump
1058  Prot|            for example, whom the poet Pherecrates exhibited on the stage at
1059 Intro|          Phaedo, the Gorgias, and the Philebus offer further corrections
1060  Prot|            the other son of Pericles, Philippides, the son of Philomelus;
1061  Prot|               Philippides, the son of Philomelus; also Antimoerus of Mende,
1062  Prot|               meet with Eurybates and Phrynondas, and you would sorrowfully
1063  Prot|            putting to Hippias certain physical and astronomical questions,
1064  Prot|              great storm may make the pilot helpless, or the severity
1065  Prot|            what they are; they do but pity them. Who is so foolish
1066  Prot|          wheeled round and took their places behind him in perfect order.~
1067  Prot|             put to death, for he is a plague of the state.’~And this
1068  Prot|           which is mischievous to all plants, and generally most injurious
1069  Prot|             understand, that is about playing the lyre. Is not that true?~
1070 Intro|         Protagoras which impairs this pleasing impression of the grave
1071  Prot|         whether he is disposed to say pleasurable, delightful, joyful. However,
1072 Intro|             Chronological,—which were pointed out in ancient times by
1073 Intro|              and far-off and opposing points of view, and not by dogmatic
1074 Intro|               openness to be the best policy, and particularly mentions
1075 Intro|       distinguish between the trained politician and the untrained; (2) Because
1076 Intro|         between skilled and unskilled politicians. (1) For all men have the
1077 Intro|              satire on those who spin pompous theories out of nothing.
1078  Prot|           sailor, passenger; rich and poor, high and low—any one who
1079  Prot|              of trouble: of this I am positive.~I said: I also incline
1080  Prot|           Then, I said, you do indeed possess a noble art, if there is
1081  Prot|         undeniably true.~And this, as possessing measure, must undeniably
1082  Prot|             are very liberal in their potations. And a company like this
1083  Prot|            long harangue, like brazen pots, which when they are struck
1084  Prot|       carpenter, or the smith, or the potter, but justice and temperance
1085 Intro|            remarks of Socrates on the practice of introducing the poets,
1086  Prot|            imagine that these are the practices which have enabled the Lacedaemonians
1087  Prot|           disclosed, all men would be practising their wisdom. And this secret
1088  Prot|            ignorant as to say that he praised those who did no evil voluntarily,
1089  Prot|              Alcibiades, and when the prayers of Callias and the company
1090  Prot|                Nor do I neglect other precautions, and therefore I hope, as
1091 Intro|         virtue and knowledge as for a precious treasure; willing to rest
1092  Prot|            delighted me more than the precision of their movements: they
1093 Intro|              which may be ascribed to preconceived notions of commentators,
1094 Intro|              and the only evil is the preference of the lesser pleasure to
1095 Intro|            may be regarded, if not as preliminary studies or sketches of the
1096  Prot|     consistent in both? First of all, premising as his own thought, ‘Hardly
1097  Prot|         Hippias and Prodicus, are our premisses; and I would beg Protagoras
1098 Intro|            renounced.~Thus after many preparations and oppositions, both of
1099  Prot|          pupil of Protagoras, and are prepared to expend all the property
1100  Prot|              over your words and will prescribe their proper length.~This
1101 Intro|            Protagoras is consistently presented to us throughout as the
1102  Prot|            latter some other means of preservation, making some large, and
1103  Prot|              this manner the race was preserved. Thus did Epimetheus, who,
1104  Prot|        inferior or worse ought not to preside over the better; or if he
1105  Prot|             an arbiter or overseer or president; he will keep watch over
1106 Intro|              from the fray, under the pretence that his assent was only
1107  Prot|          Sophist. Your own Agathocles pretended to be a musician, but was
1108 Intro|      Alcibiades says, that he is only pretending to have a bad memory, and
1109 Intro|           greater still, who makes no pretensions. Before introducing Hippocrates
1110 Intro|               of interpretation which prevailed in his own day, and may
1111  Prot|      compensate them with the view of preventing any race from becoming extinct.
1112 Intro|          found in antiquity about the preventive nature of punishment is
1113  Prot|            while those who were their prey were very prolific; and
1114  Prot|             men but also women have a pride in their high cultivation.
1115  Prot|              of Mitylene, and Bias of Priene, and our own Solon, and
1116  Prot|         Crison of Himera, when in his prime, or with some one of the
1117  Prot|           that skill in poetry is the principal part of education; and this
1118  Prot|            justice to be the ordering principles of cities and the bonds
1119  Prot|         jealousies are aroused by his proceedings, and he is the subject of
1120  Prot|         conceal their profession, you proclaim in the face of Hellas that
1121  Prot|            with you is most likely to procure for him. And now you can
1122 Intro|             united,—their tendency to produce happiness,—though such a
1123 Intro|               be thought a madman who professed an art which he did not
1124 Intro|        Simonides of Ceos, in which he professes to find a contradiction.
1125 Intro|     difficulty.~Socrates concludes by professing his disinterested love of
1126  Prot|           their way of behaving about professors of the arts. But when the
1127  Prot|             were their prey were very prolific; and in this manner the
1128  Prot|             about these questions, in Promethean care of my own life. And
1129  Prot|             of politics, and that you promise to make men good citizens?~
1130  Prot|            better able than we are to promote virtue ever so little, we
1131  Prot|              some, of hierophants and prophets, as Orpheus and Musaeus,
1132  Prot|              of the difference. And I propose to transfer the question
1133  Prot|               by all means to do as I proposed.~Then now, I said, I will
1134 Intro|     sententious language: and Hippias proposes an umpire. But who is to
1135  Prot|               agree, Socrates, to the proposition that justice is holy and
1136 Intro|             present and future? These propositions to us have an appearance
1137  Prot| interpretation of my own which I will propound to you, if you will allow
1138 Intro|              to doubt the morality or propriety of assenting to this; he
1139  Prot|               to have been afterwards prosecuted for theft, owing to the
1140  Prot|               delight was felt at the prospect of hearing wise men talk;
1141  Prot|       Apollodorus, and of a great and prosperous house, and he is himself
1142  Prot|             contrived also a means of protecting them against the seasons
1143  Prot|            and having their size as a protection, and others small, whose
1144  Prot|            art was only sufficient to provide them with the means of life,
1145  Prot|      constables at the command of the prytanes. This is their way of behaving
1146  Prot|           meat and drink: the one you purchase of the wholesale or retail
1147  Prot|                and then the danger of purchasing them is not so great. But
1148 Intro|              is one of the earlier or purely Socratic works—perhaps the
1149  Prot|            and tell you once more the purport of my visit: this is my
1150  Prot|             are thus enthusiastically pursuing our object some one were
1151  Prot|              to sound unless some one puts his hand upon them; whereas
1152  Prot|              an eminent Sophist; also Pythocleides the Cean; and there were
1153  Prot|            food, except in very small quantities, just enough to extinguish
1154  Prot|              dignity, but should only quarrel with one another like the
1155  Prot|         indeed we shall. Nay, but our questioner will rejoin with a laugh,
1156  Prot|             to mine, for I cannot run quickly, and he can run slowly.
1157  Prot|             difficulty which has been raised by you about the sons of
1158 Intro|              introductory scene Plato raises the expectation that a ‘
1159  Prot|            answer; and this is a very rare gift. Now I, Protagoras,
1160  Prot|       sorrowfully long to revisit the rascality of this part of the world.
1161  Prot|         proceeded on our way until we reached the vestibule of the house;
1162  Prot|              who have a companion are readier in deed, word, or thought;
1163 Intro|       Protagoras himself. Hippocrates readily adopts the suggestion of
1164  Prot|              that there were the same readiness and liberality among us
1165  Prot|              of great poets, which he reads sitting on a bench at school;
1166  Prot|            becomes better, and he who rebels against instruction and
1167  Prot|          would instruct, no one would rebuke, or be angry with those
1168  Prot|              Then now, I said, let us recapitulate our admissions. First of
1169  Prot|     gratification is of the mind when receiving wisdom and knowledge, but
1170      | recent
1171      | recently
1172  Prot|              Simonides a character of recklessness which is very unlike his
1173  Prot|            you who are here present I reckon to be kinsmen and friends
1174 Intro|          assents; but when Protagoras reclaims, Socrates slily withdraws
1175 Intro|              the Athenian people, who recognize in their assemblies the
1176 Intro|               the invidious nature is recognized by Protagoras himself. Hippocrates
1177 Intro|              it seems likely that the reconcilement offered by Socrates is a
1178  Prot|           which a vulgar company have recourse; who, because they are not
1179 Intro|              found; and yet has to be recovered by every one for himself
1180 Intro|              after having been easily reduced to two only, at last coalesce
1181 Intro|               be taught, they must be reducible to a common principle; and
1182  Prot|        pleasure and pain to which you refer when you call actual pain
1183  Prot|               this, however, I am not referring, but to the assertion which
1184  Prot|               Well, my friend, I have reflected.~And does not the poet proceed
1185 Intro|         broken and resumed, satirical reflections on mankind, veils thrown
1186  Prot|           once more to have my memory refreshed by you about the questions
1187  Prot|             who has knowledge; and we refused to allow this, and you rejoined:
1188  Prot|              band of listeners parted regularly on either side; he was always
1189  Prot|         Simonides. Now is the time to rehabilitate Simonides, by the application
1190  Prot|             but loosen and let go the reins of speech, that your words
1191  Prot|          overcome. ‘By what?’ he will reiterate. By the good, we shall have
1192  Prot|               but our questioner will rejoin with a laugh, if he be one
1193  Prot|        refused to allow this, and you rejoined: O Protagoras and Socrates,
1194 Intro|        Schleiermacher and others, and relate to the impossibility of
1195  Prot|              assented, but with great reluctance.~Then temperance and wisdom
1196  Prot|            cowardice?~To that he very reluctantly nodded assent.~And the knowledge
1197 Intro|               introduction. It may be remarked that Protagoras is consistently
1198  Prot|              painful, do you not mean remedial goods, such as gymnastic
1199  Prot|         hearers of both the speakers; remembering, however, that impartiality
1200  Prot|              you are mistaken in your remembrance of what was said by me.
1201 Intro|           allusion to the doctrine of reminiscence; and also by the different
1202  Prot|              less, and the nearer and remoter, must not this measuring
1203  Prot|             an echo in the room which rendered his words inaudible.~No
1204 Intro|             result, and would like to renew the enquiry with the help
1205 Intro|               fluent speech.~Socrates renews the attack from another
1206 Intro|              only good, is distinctly renounced.~Thus after many preparations
1207  Prot|               they following (Compare Rep.). I should mention also
1208 Intro|            eager for any intellectual repast; Prodicus, who finds an
1209 Intro|              then the old question is repeated, ‘Whether the virtues are
1210  Prot|              Protagoras imagines, for repeating that which he says himself,
1211  Prot|               at one time of which we repent at another, both in our
1212 Intro|         contrast between the Sophists representing average public opinion and
1213 Intro|              best of the argument and represents the better mind of man.~
1214  Prot|               angry with another, and reprimand him,—clearly because he
1215  Prot|              with him, and punish and reprove him—of these evil qualities
1216  Prot|               private and public, and reproving the bad player as freely
1217 Intro|                e.g. the Symposium and Republic, and already in the Laches)
1218 Intro|               principle is afterwards repudiated by him.~It remains to be
1219  Prot|           praise him, Socrates; he is reputed to be the most accomplished
1220 Intro|               of his own, which he is requested by Alcibiades to defer.~
1221  Prot|            admit that justice bears a resemblance to holiness, for there is
1222  Prot|               winter cold and able to resist the summer heat, so that
1223  Prot|          trial of the strength of his resolution. So I examined him and put
1224  Prot|              he said.~And if you were resolved to go to Polycleitus the
1225 Intro|            Socrates shows him as much respect as is consistent with his
1226  Prot|              justice, or laws, or any restraints upon them which compelled
1227 Intro|       dogmatic statements or definite results.~The real difficulties arise
1228  Prot|           will leave the apologue and resume the argument. Please to
1229  Prot|            give me the opportunity of resuming and completing our unfinished
1230  Prot|          climbed the height, Then, to retain virtue, however difficult
1231  Prot|             all things, can be easily retained.~Well, I said, and how fortunate
1232  Prot|              supper and were about to retire to rest, my brother said
1233  Prot|              he is clamoured down and retires of himself; or if he persist,
1234  Prot|               pleasure, you may still retract. Are you satisfied, then,
1235 Intro|             of it appear to have been retracted. The Phaedo, the Gorgias,
1236 Intro|           prevention, of course —mere retribution is for beasts, and not for
1237 Intro|               the end of the Dialogue returns to the beginning. Had Protagoras
1238 Intro|            dividing, yet they must be reunited, and in the highest conception
1239  Prot|           mind to me, Protagoras, and reveal your opinion about knowledge,
1240 Intro|        subject; also that his mode of revealing the truth is by lights and
1241  Prot|             would sorrowfully long to revisit the rascality of this part
1242  Prot|             gods have made virtue the reward of toil, But on the other
1243 Intro|          false, but of the old art of rhetoric and the new science of interrogation
1244 Intro|               and cannot be taught by rhetorical discourses or citations
1245  Prot|               has need of harmony and rhythm. Then they send them to
1246  Prot|           gentle, and harmonious, and rhythmical, and so more fitted for
1247  Prot|              make their harmonies and rhythms quite familiar to the children’
1248  Prot|              end in pleasure, and get rid of and avert pain? Are you
1249  Prot|              of their speech, they go ringing on in a long harangue, like
1250  Prot|              is too early. But let us rise and take a turn in the court
1251 Intro|              come before the dawn had risen—so fervid is his zeal. Socrates
1252 Intro|       declines to accommodate him, he rises to depart, but is detained
1253  Prot|            you.~Thus I spoke, and was rising from my seat, when Callias
1254 Intro|               intended to express the rival doctrines of Socrates and
1255  Prot|               appeal to you, like the river Scamander in Homer, who,
1256  Prot|          because they end in pain and rob us of other pleasures:—there
1257  Prot|            the matter? Has Protagoras robbed you of anything?~He replied,
1258  Prot|             you deem an evil, when it robs you of greater pleasures
1259  Prot|         regard him who runs away as a rogue, in addition to any other
1260  Prot|            and, in a word, may be the ruin of families—those things,
1261  Prot|            and only repeat what their rulers are pleased to tell them.
1262  Prot|             had gone in pursuit of my runaway slave Satyrus, as I meant
1263  Prot|             of the long or day course runners. To such a request I should
1264  Prot|             away, and to be caught in running away, is the very height
1265  Prot|               for they regard him who runs away as a rogue, in addition
1266  Prot|         self-control, which makes men rush into dangers, has been shown
1267  Prot|            opened to him, and he came rushing in and bawled out: Socrates,
1268  Prot|            give my pupils their money’s-worth, and even more, as they
1269  Prot|             is good and evil, you may safely buy knowledge of Protagoras
1270  Prot|          whole of my life, I shall be safer, if I am not mistaken, in
1271  Prot|             cowards go where there is safety, and the courageous where
1272  Prot|      applauded his words.~Hippias the sage spoke next. He said: All
1273 Intro|            antiquity and of the seven sages. Now Pittacus had a saying, ‘
1274  Prot|          forth on the gale with every sail set out of sight of land
1275  Prot|           carpenter, tinker, cobbler, sailor, passenger; rich and poor,
1276  Prot|            again. He punishes for the sake of prevention, thereby clearly
1277  Prot|              for the truckle-bed, and sat down at my feet, and then
1278 Intro|        philosophy broken and resumed, satirical reflections on mankind,
1279 Intro|        Laconizers, and Protagoras are satirized at the same time.~Not having
1280  Prot|           pursuit of my runaway slave Satyrus, as I meant to have told
1281  Prot|       sensation of smell in meats and sauces.~When he had given this
1282  Prot|             the truth, and would thus save our life. Would not mankind
1283  Prot|          think, he said, that the two sayings are consistent?~Yes, I said,
1284  Prot|         appeal to you, like the river Scamander in Homer, who, when beleaguered
1285 Intro|         Athenaeus, and are noticed by Schleiermacher and others, and relate to
1286  Prot|           poet. Now Simonides says to Scopas the son of Creon the Thessalian:~‘
1287  Prot|               know that Pheidias is a sculptor, and that Homer is a poet;
1288  Prot|             they hold a philosophical seance unknown to strangers; and
1289  Prot|              of life to no purpose in searching after the impossible, hoping
1290  Prot|                or the severity of the season the husbandman or the physician;
1291  Prot|           protecting them against the seasons of heaven; clothing them
1292  Prot|                and was rising from my seat, when Callias seized me
1293  Prot|          might abstain, because he is seduced and overpowered by pleasure;
1294  Prot|            from my seat, when Callias seized me by the right hand, and
1295  Prot|       Lacedaemonian, he will find him seldom good for much in general
1296 Intro|          reluctant assent.~Protagoras selects as his thesis a poem of
1297 Intro|             irony of Socrates and the self-assertion of the Sophists. There is
1298  Prot|            dangers, since the want of self-control, which makes men rush into
1299 Intro|           other animals, the power of self-improvement; (7) the religious allegory
1300  Prot|           After a while the desire of self-preservation gathered them into cities;
1301  Prot|               when he praises what he sells, like the dealers wholesale
1302  Prot|          celebrated Herodicus, now of Selymbria and formerly of Megara,
1303  Prot|         eating and drinking and other sensual desires which are pleasant,
1304  Prot|              than is contained in the sentence which you are correcting.~
1305  Prot|         consisting of short memorable sentences, which they severally uttered.
1306 Intro|              Prodicus in balanced and sententious language: and Hippias proposes
1307 Intro|              is there anything in the sentiments of Protagoras which impairs
1308  Prot|             who moreover had terrible sentinels; but he did enter by stealth
1309  Prot|              is further proved by the sequel. For he adds:—~‘Therefore
1310  Prot|               exercises, and military service, and the physician’s use
1311 Intro|             of the Dialogue, Socrates sets up the proverbial philosophers
1312 Intro|        primitive antiquity and of the seven sages. Now Pittacus had
1313  Prot|            and Myson the Chenian; and seventh in the catalogue of wise
1314  Prot|            the pilot helpless, or the severity of the season the husbandman
1315 Intro|            the truth is by lights and shadows, and far-off and opposing
1316  Prot|           still in bed, wrapped up in sheepskins and bedclothes, of which
1317  Prot|              when fighting with light shields—the peltasts or the nonpeltasts?~
1318  Prot|           when the question is one of ship-building, then the ship-wrights;
1319  Prot|               ship-building, then the ship-wrights; and the like of other arts
1320  Prot|               man alone was naked and shoeless, and had neither bed nor
1321  Prot|    constructed houses and clothes and shoes and beds, and drew sustenance
1322  Prot|        destructive if thrown upon the shoots and young branches; or I
1323  Prot|             of the art of healing the sick. ‘But he who does ill is
1324  Prot|            longer nod assent, but was silent.~And why, I said, do you
1325  Prot|             making of likenesses, and similarly of other things. And if
1326  Prot|              that is clearly what the simile would imply.~Yes, Socrates,
1327  Prot|              by Achilles, summons the Simois to aid him, saying:~‘Brother
1328  Prot|            good (this would be a very simple observation, and quite unworthy
1329  Prot|             audience; for esteem is a sincere conviction of the hearers’
1330 Intro|               all woven together in a single design, and moving towards
1331  Prot|               be educated; but before six months had elapsed, Ariphron
1332  Prot|               large, and having their size as a protection, and others
1333 Intro|             as preliminary studies or sketches of the more important work,
1334  Prot|             stadium, you must bid him slacken his speed to mine, for I
1335  Prot|             far spent. But the moment sleep left me after my fatigue,
1336  Prot|              some particular, however slight, unlike.~And do you think,
1337 Intro|         Protagoras reclaims, Socrates slily withdraws Prodicus from
1338  Prot|             when a question is asked, slipping away from the point, and
1339  Prot|               that which is done with slowness, slowly?~He assented again.~
1340  Prot|             disagreeable sensation of smell in meats and sauces.~When
1341  Prot|              of the carpenter, or the smith, or the potter, but justice
1342 Intro|        flute-girls, to come into good society. Men’s own thoughts should
1343  Prot|               black, and hard is like soft, and the most extreme opposites
1344  Prot|        varieties of food,—herb of the soil to some, to others fruits
1345  Prot|           Bias of Priene, and our own Solon, and Cleobulus the Lindian,
1346  Prot|        children begin to go to school soonest and leave off latest. When
1347 Intro|       materials for discussion. A few soothing flatteries are addressed
1348 Intro|            under the trying and often sophistical cross-examination of Socrates.
1349  Prot|             Phrynondas, and you would sorrowfully long to revisit the rascality
1350  Prot|               Protagoras; then I am a sorry physician, and do but aggravate
1351 Intro|              as Protagoras, admit the soundness of the conclusion.~Socrates
1352  Prot|            thickness and number; also sounds, which are in themselves
1353  Prot|              I will not throw away my span of life to no purpose in
1354  Prot|              must bid him slacken his speed to mine, for I cannot run
1355 Intro|              as a satire on those who spin pompous theories out of
1356  Prot|              you entreated me, not to spoil the discussion. And this
1357  Prot|           given by nature, or to grow spontaneously, but to be a thing which
1358  Prot|             Crison and me in the same stadium, you must bid him slacken
1359  Prot|             tremendous thump with his staff at my door; some one opened
1360  Prot|        overthrown, and only he who is standing upright but not he who is
1361 Intro|               relation the Protagoras stands to the other Dialogues of
1362  Prot|             son of Hipponicus: let us start.~I replied: Not yet, my
1363  Prot|                on the other hand, who started by saying that it might
1364  Prot|                cutting, drugging, and starving? Are these the things which
1365  Prot|              answered, that they were statuaries.~And what will they make
1366  Prot|              will they make of you?~A statuary, of course.~Well now, I
1367  Prot|            dear, let us both together stay the force of the hero (Il.).’~
1368  Prot|      engagement which will prevent my staying to hear you at greater length (
1369  Prot|        sentinels; but he did enter by stealth into the common workshop
1370  Prot|             days of Hipponicus, was a storehouse; but, as the house was full,
1371  Prot|                The descent of a great storm may make the pilot helpless,
1372  Prot|                as he forgot us in the story; I prefer your Prometheus
1373  Prot|               and good; if not, he is straightened by threats and blows, like
1374  Prot|              is alone,’~he goes about straightway seeking until he finds some
1375 Intro|             while Protagoras has been striving to show that virtue is not
1376  Prot|               love of philosophy even stronger than the love of gymnastics;
1377 Intro|        proceeds to undermine the last stronghold of the adversary, first
1378  Prot|              agreed.~And that is done strongly which is done by strength,
1379  Prot|             pots, which when they are struck continue to sound unless
1380 Intro|       regarded, if not as preliminary studies or sketches of the more
1381  Prot|               is neither bad nor very stupid; and when he knows justice (
1382  Prot|      conversation, by reason of their stupidity, raise the price of flute-girls
1383 Intro|            really a master in the two styles of speaking; and that he
1384  Prot|              the examination of these subjects, and ask questions and consult
1385 Intro|           time Hippias is desirous of substituting a new interpretation of
1386 Intro|               upon us, or the gradual substitution of Socrates in the second
1387 Intro|              arise out of the extreme subtlety of the work, which, as Socrates
1388 Intro|           question’ by Protagoras. He succeeds in making his two ‘friends,’
1389  Prot|       occasion the greatest immediate suffering and pain; or because, afterwards,
1390 Intro|             Socrates; he would rather suggest as a compromise that Protagoras
1391 Intro|              truths which are lightly suggested, and all woven together
1392 Intro|        Hippocrates readily adopts the suggestion of Socrates that he shall
1393  Prot|           that the other animals were suitably furnished, but that man
1394  Prot|            market, hiring for a great sum the voice of a flute instead
1395  Prot|           cold and able to resist the summer heat, so that they might
1396  Prot|            building, the builders are summoned as advisers; when the question
1397  Prot|              beleaguered by Achilles, summons the Simois to aid him, saying:~‘
1398  Prot|          Callias and the company were superadded, he was at last induced
1399  Prot|              return, when we had done supper and were about to retire
1400 Intro|             Men’s own thoughts should supply them with the materials
1401  Prot|               wisdom necessary to the support of life, but political wisdom
1402 Intro|             Socrates, he finds on the surface of human life one common
1403  Prot|            think, I said in a tone of surprise, that justice and holiness
1404  Prot|            opposite would be far more surprising.~But why then do the sons
1405  Prot|         presence of the company.~As I suspected that he would like to have
1406  Prot|            him called Agathon, and my suspicion is that he is the beloved
1407  Prot|              shoes and beds, and drew sustenance from the earth. Thus provided,
1408  Prot|            laugh, if he be one of the swaggering sort, ‘That is too ridiculous,
1409  Prot|              wiser always the fairer, sweet friend?~COMPANION: But have
1410  Prot|           done with swiftness is done swiftly, and that which is done
1411 Intro|              many Dialogues (e.g. the Symposium and Republic, and already
1412  Prot|     application of your philosophy of synonyms, which enables you to distinguish ‘
1413  Prot|           beginner, and gives him the tablet and makes him follow the
1414  Prot|            many admonitions, and many tales, and praises, and encomia
1415  Prot|           them.~Also, ‘my eyes beheld Tantalus (Od.);’ for Prodicus the
1416  Prot|      gymnastic-masters, like Iccus of Tarentum, or the more recently celebrated
1417  Prot|              I spoke before, and only tarried because I could not refuse
1418 Intro|          knowledge, which is the most teachable of all things, while Protagoras
1419 Intro|              Socrates by denying, the teachableness of virtue, and now the latter
1420  Prot|        COMPANION: Thank you, too, for telling us.~SOCRATES: That is thank
1421  Prot|            comes publicly forward and tells the truth about his dishonesty,
1422  Prot|                drinks, medicines, and ten thousand other things, which
1423  Prot|            Thus the words of the poem tend to show that on the one
1424  Prot|       temperance, and courage,— which tends to show that virtue can
1425  Prot|               our way of speaking, is termed being overcome by pleasure?
1426  Prot|              still unprovided, he was terribly perplexed. Now while he
1427  Prot|              out some notable saying, terse and full of meaning, with
1428  Prot|           such expressions. Such were Thales of Miletus, and Pittacus
1429  Prot|             he went to Orthagoras the Theban, and heard him say the same
1430  Prot|             afterwards prosecuted for theft, owing to the blunder of
1431  Prot|            wisdom. And this secret of theirs has never been discovered
1432 Intro|      detentions by the way, which, as Theodorus says in the Theaetetus,
1433      | thereby
1434  Prot|           Scopas the son of Creon the Thessalian:~‘Hardly on the one hand
1435  Prot|              them with close hair and thick skins sufficient to defend
1436  Prot|           that. And the same holds of thickness and number; also sounds,
1437  Prot|            yourself to be deceived in thinking that all men regard every
1438  Prot|            drinks, medicines, and ten thousand other things, which are
1439 Intro|              contrasts and interests, threads of philosophy broken and
1440  Prot|            not, he is straightened by threats and blows, like a piece
1441 Intro|               before him after two or three blows. Socrates partially
1442  Prot|                  Therefore I will not throw away my span of life to
1443 Intro|              is a dramatic writer who throws his thoughts into both sides
1444  Prot|             Phason, gave a tremendous thump with his staff at my door;
1445  Prot|             in all men’s mouths—‘Know thyself,’ and ‘Nothing too much.’~
1446  Prot|          looks at his face and at the tips of his fingers, and then
1447 Intro|               that when Protagoras is tired of asking he himself will
1448 Intro|                paradoxical, ironical, tiresome, but seeking for the unity
1449  Prot|            are willing to accord that title to Protagoras.~COMPANION:
1450  Prot|              gracious; and especially to-day, for I have just come from
1451 Intro|         Charmides, Laches, Lysis, all touch on the question of the relation
1452 Intro|             Menexenus. Several lesser touches of satire may be observed,
1453  Prot|           sophistry his profession. A train of listeners followed him;
1454 Intro|               distinguish between the trained politician and the untrained; (
1455  Prot|            must suppose him to make a trajection of the word ‘truly’ (Greek),
1456 Intro|            Socrates is paradoxical or transcendental, and though full of meaning
1457  Prot|          difference. And I propose to transfer the question which you and
1458  Prot|     commanding or obeying; and he who transgresses them is to be corrected,
1459 Intro|            following reasons: (1) The transparent irony of the previous interpretations
1460 Intro|           knowledge as for a precious treasure; willing to rest this even
1461 Intro|        natural or even wild manner of treating his subject; also that his
1462 Intro|          differences. (4) The general treatment in Plato both of the Poets
1463  Prot|             laid about the roots of a tree, but utterly destructive
1464  Prot|             brother of Phason, gave a tremendous thump with his staff at
1465  Prot|               haply Epimetheus should trip us up and deceive us in
1466  Prot|             same time he felt for the truckle-bed, and sat down at my feet,
1467  Prot|               whom I am more ready to trust. But I marvel at one thing
1468 Intro|            mankind, veils thrown over truths which are lightly suggested,
1469 Intro|              the discussion under the trying and often sophistical cross-examination
1470  Prot|              and nurse and father and tutor are vying with one another
1471  Prot|      certainly his meaning; and he is twitting Pittacus with ignorance
1472  Prot|           that the true Lacedaemonian type of character has the love
1473  Prot|           those who were ignorant and unacquainted with the art of flute-playing?
1474  Prot|            matters?~To this also they unanimously assented.~Then, I said,
1475  Prot|             armed, and others he left unarmed; and devised for the latter
1476  Prot|            the Lacedaemonians want to unbend and hold free conversation
1477 Intro|              to a great extent remain uncertain. (3) There is another class
1478  Prot|               of the names a separate underlying essence and corresponding
1479 Intro|            rest. Socrates proceeds to undermine the last stronghold of the
1480  Prot|             eloquent in that which he understands?~Yes, that may be assumed.~
1481  Prot|              is written, as before he understood only what was spoken, they
1482 Intro|             speaking; and that he can undertake, not one side of the argument
1483  Prot|             up to be distinguished or undistinguished according to their own natural
1484  Prot|            past wrong which cannot be undone; he has regard to the future,
1485  Prot|            also parts of virtue?~Most undoubtedly they are, he answered; and
1486  Prot|               you come hither at this unearthly hour?~He drew nearer to
1487  Prot|             and full of meaning, with unerring aim; and the person with
1488  Prot|            certainly think that he is unfair; he ought either to proceed
1489  Prot|           resuming and completing our unfinished argument.~I made these and
1490  Prot|        holiness, but of the nature of unholiness; and holiness is of the
1491  Prot|            originate in ignorance and uninstructedness?~True, he said.~Then as
1492 Intro|              by which the virtues are united,—their tendency to produce
1493  Prot|          received by the company with universal approval; Callias said that
1494  Prot|             to be evil?~That also was universally admitted.~Then, I said,
1495  Prot|           hold a philosophical seance unknown to strangers; and they themselves
1496  Prot|               order that they may not unlearn the lessons which they have
1497  Prot|               good with which evil is unmingled.’~In these latter words
1498  Prot|             as a man might feel to an unnatural father or mother, or country,
1499  Prot|     pleasantly is a good, and to live unpleasantly an evil?~Yes, he said, if
1500  Prot|            came to man, who was still unprovided, he was terribly perplexed.
1501  Prot|             venture to assert in that unqualified manner that the pleasant
1502  Prot|          umpire of discourse would be unseemly; for if the person chosen