Dialogue

  1 Repub|           just and would not do an injustice? ~True. ~Then according
  2 Repub|           subject and servant; and injustice the opposite; for the unjust
  3 Repub|            speaking, as before, of injustice on a large scale in which
  4 Repub|            to that highest form of injustice in which the criminal is
  5 Repub|          or those who refuse to do injustice are the most miserable-that
  6 Repub|       achieved the consummation of injustice. For mankind censure injustice,
  7 Repub|     injustice. For mankind censure injustice, fearing that they may be
  8 Repub|            I have shown, Socrates, injustice, when on a sufficient scale,
  9 Repub|           of the stronger, whereas injustice is a man's own profit and
 10 Repub|          and that I do not believe injustice to be more gainful than
 11 Repub|          man who is able to commit injustice either by fraud or force,
 12 Repub|          the superior advantage of injustice, and there may be others
 13 Repub|           in preferring justice to injustice. ~And how am I to convince
 14 Repub|           me. You say that perfect injustice is more gainful than perfect
 15 Repub|            call justice virtue and injustice vice? ~What a charming notion!
 16 Repub|          too, seeing that I affirm injustice to be profitable and justice
 17 Repub|   simplicity. ~Then would you call injustice malignity? ~No; I would
 18 Repub|           amazement that you class injustice with wisdom and virtue,
 19 Repub|    unanswerable ground; for if the injustice which you were maintaining
 20 Repub|        perceive that you will call injustice honorable and strong, and
 21 Repub|            do not hesitate to rank injustice with wisdom and virtue. ~
 22 Repub|         was virtue and wisdom, and injustice vice and ignorance, I proceeded
 23 Repub|            we not also saying that injustice had strength-do you remember? ~
 24 Repub|     relative nature of justice and injustice may be carried on regularly.
 25 Repub|            statement was made that injustice is stronger and more powerful
 26 Repub|          shown to be stronger than injustice, if injustice is ignorance;
 27 Repub|        stronger than injustice, if injustice is ignorance; this can no
 28 Repub|          Yes. ~And this is because injustice creates divisions and hatreds
 29 Repub|          like to know also whether injustice, having this tendency to
 30 Repub|            Certainly. ~And even if injustice be found in two only, will
 31 Repub|            They will. ~And suppose injustice abiding in a single person,
 32 Repub|         Yet is not the power which injustice exercises of such a nature
 33 Repub|             certainly. ~And is not injustice equally fatal when existing
 34 Repub|        excellence of the soul, and injustice the defect of the soul? ~
 35 Repub|           my blessed Thrasymachus, injustice can never be more profitable
 36 Repub|          advantages of justice and injustice, I could not refrain from
 37 Repub|       censured justice and praised injustice. But I am too stupid to
 38 Repub|          the nature of justice and injustice has not yet been made clear.
 39 Repub|          superiority of justice to injustice maintained by anyone in
 40 Repub|     praising justice and censuring injustice. Will you say whether you
 41 Repub|      justice. ~They say that to do injustice is, by nature, good; to
 42 Repub|            nature, good; to suffer injustice, evil; but that the evil
 43 Repub|        have both done and suffered injustice and have had experience
 44 Repub|        best of all, which is to do injustice and not be punished, and
 45 Repub|            all, which is to suffer injustice without the power of retaliation;
 46 Repub|         the inability of men to do injustice. For no man who is worthy
 47 Repub|       believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to
 48 Repub|         that they too might suffer injustice. Enough of this. ~Now, if
 49 Repub|           means to be great in his injustice (he who is found out is
 50 Repub|           for the highest reach of injustice is, to be deemed just when
 51 Repub|            assume the most perfect injustice; there is to be no deduction,
 52 Repub|           justice and the other of injustice, let judgment be given which
 53 Repub|         mouths of the eulogists of injustice: They will tell you that
 54 Repub|            has no misgivings about injustice; and at every contest, whether
 55 Repub|         and censure of justice and injustice, which is equally required
 56 Repub|         speaking about justice and injustice, which is not confined to
 57 Repub|          the pleasures of vice and injustice are easy of attainment,
 58 Repub|         and offer of the fruits of injustice; for if we are just, although
 59 Repub|            shall lose the gains of injustice; but, if we are unjust,
 60 Repub|      justice rather than the worst injustice? when, if we only unite
 61 Repub|          inspired with a hatred of injustice, or who has attained knowledge
 62 Repub|          other man. He only blames injustice, who, owing to cowardice
 63 Repub|        time-no one has ever blamed injustice or praised justice except
 64 Repub|          is the greatest good, and injustice the greatest evil. Had this
 65 Repub|            these about justice and injustice, grossly, as I conceive,
 66 Repub| superiority which justice has over injustice, but what effect they have
 67 Repub|          only exhorting us to keep injustice dark, and that you really
 68 Repub|          of the stronger, and that injustice is a man's own profit and
 69 Repub|         and evil which justice and injustice work in the possessors of
 70 Repub|         praise justice and censure injustice, magnifying the rewards
 71 Repub|        that justice is better than injustice, but show what they either
 72 Repub|        done for the superiority of injustice, and remaining unconvinced
 73 Repub| superiority which justice has over injustice. And yet I cannot refuse
 74 Repub|          the nature of justice and injustice, and secondly, about their
 75 Repub|          the nature of justice and injustice, first as they appear in
 76 Repub|          shall see the justice and injustice of the State in process
 77 Repub|           is justice, and where is injustice, and in what part of the
 78 Repub|      likely to see how justice and injustice originate. In my opinion
 79 Repub|       final end-How do justice and injustice grow up in States? for we
 80 Repub|           good miserable; and that injustice is profitable when undetected,
 81 Repub|           in the ill-ordered State injustice: and, having found them,
 82 Repub|         discover justice and where injustice, and in what they differ
 83 Repub|        city would be termed by you injustice? ~Certainly. This, then,
 84 Repub|          Certainly. This, then, is injustice; and on the other hand when
 85 Repub|          say so. ~And now, I said, injustice has to be considered. ~Clearly. ~
 86 Repub|    considered. ~Clearly. ~Must not injustice be a strife which arises
 87 Repub|         confusion and delusion but injustice, and intemperance, and cowardice,
 88 Repub|          the nature of justice and injustice be known, then the meaning
 89 Repub|           and unjust actions cause injustice? ~That is certain. ~And
 90 Repub|          soul, and the creation of injustice the production of a state
 91 Repub|           advantage of justice and injustice has not been answered: Which
 92 Repub|          virtue, or to escape from injustice and vice; assuming them
 93 Repub|           search after justice and injustice. ~True, he replied; but
 94 Repub|           perfectly just, and into injustice and the perfectly unjust,
 95 Repub|        sufficiently explained: the injustice of the charges against her
 96 Repub|     Glaucon, that there will be no injustice in compelling our philosophers
 97 Repub|            of pure justice or pure injustice. The inquiry will then be
 98 Repub|         whether we ought to pursue injustice, as Thrasymachus advises,
 99 Repub|            not someone saying that injustice was a gain to the perfectly
100 Repub|         and quality of justice and injustice, let us have a little conversation
101 Repub|            is what the approver of injustice says. ~To him the supporter
102 Repub|          that a man is profited by injustice or intemperance or other
103 Repub|            shall he profit, if his injustice be undetected and unpunished?
104 Repub|           perishes through his own injustice, which is an evil of the
105 Repub|           in like manner. Does the injustice or other evil which exists
106 Repub|           is right, I suppose that injustice, like disease, must be assumed
107 Repub|         Nay, he said, in that case injustice, if fatal to the unjust,
108 Repub|          to be the truth, and that injustice which, if it have the power,
109 Repub|          revealed, and justice and injustice and all the things which
110 Repub|            be weighed against pure injustice. Do you remember? ~I should
111 Repub|          be a man, remembering the injustice which was done him in the