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2001 Repub|              that the mere musician IS melted and softened beyond what
2002 Repub|               did he only seem to be a member of the ruling body, although
2003 Repub|             ancient heroes of whom any memorial has been preserved to us,
2004 Repub|           other animals, so also among men-and if possible, in what way
2005 Repub|             there are three classes of men-lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor,
2006 Repub|              heroes are no better than men-sentiments which, as we were saying,
2007 Repub|                to do harm to our young men-you would agree with me there? ~
2008 Repub|           happiness to the wicked. And mendicant prophets go to rich men'
2009 Repub|               go on forever making and mending the laws and their lives
2010 Repub|                of Patroclus the son of Menoetius." ~For if, my sweet Adeimantus,
2011 Repub|             probation which we did not mention-he must be exercised also in
2012 Repub|            citizens are no better than mercenaries who are quartered in the
2013 Repub|          merchants? ~We shall. ~And if merchandise is to be carried over the
2014 Repub|           second and fifth (Saturn and Mercury) are in color like one another,
2015 Repub|                famous, not for his own merits but because he was an Athenian: "
2016 Repub|              more; and they will go to mess and live together like soldiers
2017 Repub|                to be chosen one of the messengers who were sent to the court;
2018 Repub|                is able to generate and metamorphose at will. ~You suppose marvellous
2019 Repub|       instrument: I might carry on the metaphor and speak after their manner
2020 Repub|               laid up a pattern of it, methinks, which he who desires may
2021 Repub|           complex systems of metre, or metres of every kind, but rather
2022 Repub|      principles of rhythm out of which metrical systems are framed, just
2023 Repub|           little swimming-bath or into mid-ocean, he has to swim all the
2024 Repub|            though they were as rich as Midas, the sons of Asclepius would
2025 Repub|               place, and there, in the midst of the light, they saw the
2026 Repub|                the soul, on which they mightily fasten, imparting grace,
2027 Repub|          disease of the whole body; as mildew is of corn, and rot of timber,
2028 Repub|             not come within a thousand miles of the tyrant; when this
2029 Repub|               life, such as Thales the Milesian or Anacharsis the Scythian,
2030 Repub|             fold when they are full of milk, taking the greatest possible
2031 Repub|                understanding about the mimetic art-whether the poets, in
2032 Repub|               of a single human victim minced up with the entrails of
2033 Repub|             the intention. ~And he who mingles music with gymnastics in
2034 Repub|            that power drawing near and mingling and becoming incorporate
2035 Repub|                the professors of quite minor arts, are philosophers? ~
2036 Repub|                 you made the attempt a minute ago, and you failed. ~Enough,
2037 Repub|             said Glaucon; and in a few minutes Polemarchus appeared, and
2038 Repub|                the whole body into the minutest pieces, can destroy the
2039 Repub|              of what we approve, is no miracle or impossibility? ~I think
2040 Repub|                s dolphin or some other miraculous help may save us? ~I suppose
2041 Repub|              to the evil state of man, misbehaving himself in a ridiculous
2042 Repub|             service of evil, and he is mischievous in proportion to his cleverness? ~
2043 Repub|              do injustice are the most miserable-that is to say tyranny, which
2044 Repub|               and the best of them are miserably degraded and enslaved. ~
2045 Repub|                with the body and other miseries, you must contemplate her
2046 Repub|             God is the author of their misery-the poet is not to be permitted
2047 Repub|           strength at the sight of the misfortunes of others is with difficulty
2048 Repub|           advantage, because he has no misgivings about injustice; and at
2049 Repub|              not dare so completely to misrepresent the greatest of the gods,
2050      | miss
2051 Repub|               therefore, I suppose, we missed her. ~What do you mean? ~
2052 Repub|           guilty of making the gravest misstatements when they tell us that wicked
2053 Repub|            have no money to spend on a mistress or any other luxurious fancy,
2054 Repub|            your speeches I should have mistrusted you. But now, the greater
2055 Repub|              not being purged of their mists? ~True, he said. ~And he
2056 Repub|             dear man; but to avoid any misunderstanding occurring between us in
2057 Repub|               other cities and attract mobs, and hire voices fair and
2058 Repub|              prescribing, who scold or mock or revile one another in
2059 Repub|              we imagine them in solemn mockery, to play and jest with us
2060 Repub|           noble words and lessons, and moderating and soothing and civilizing
2061 Repub|               sauces and sweets in the modern style. ~Yes, I said, now
2062 Repub|            they gain the day, and then modesty, which they call silliness,
2063 Repub|                 It cannot. ~Or drought moisture? ~Clearly not. ~Nor can
2064 Repub|                and at rest at the same moment-to such a mode of speech we
2065 Repub|                said to have two names, monarchy and aristocracy, according
2066 Repub|           other things for the sake of money-getting were also the ruin of oligarchy? ~
2067 Repub|             their sting-that is, their money-into someone else who is not
2068 Repub|              main elements of it; also money-loving, because such desires are
2069 Repub|               also the various ways of money-making-these do us good but we regard
2070 Repub|             need a market-place, and a money-token for purposes of exchange. ~
2071 Repub|               then, that the miser and moneymaker answers to the oligarchical
2072 Repub|                less of this scandalous moneymaking, and the evils of which
2073 Repub|              acquire homes or lands or moneys of their own, they will
2074 Repub|            rarely, if ever, has such a monitor been given to any other
2075 Repub|            most of them become strange monsters, not to say utter rogues,
2076 Repub|             that they might send their monthly report about the flocks
2077 Repub|                they engender laxity of morals among the young. ~By all
2078 Repub|            could not say; only, in the morning, awaking suddenly, he found
2079 Repub|            they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore
2080 Repub|                a new cycle of life and mortality. Your genius will not be
2081 Repub|           abhor should be seen both of mortals and immortals." ~And again: ~"
2082      | mostly
2083 Repub|             his dear old fatherland or motherland, as the Cretans say, in
2084 Repub|             word and work is perfectly moulded, as far as he can be, into
2085 Repub|           samples of lives, and having mounted a high pulpit, spoke as
2086 Repub|                the city and are always mounting guard? ~Yes, I said; and
2087 Repub|           feeling when he looks at the movements of the stars? Will he not
2088 Repub|           State, if once started well, moves with accumulating force
2089 Repub|                because in him the huge multiform monster is allowed to be
2090 Repub|                will find him, when the multiplication is completed, living 729
2091 Repub|             parent sum many times over multiplied into a family of children:
2092 Repub|             city of Pamphylia, and had murdered his aged father and his
2093 Repub|               murder others, keeps the murderer alive-aye, and well awake,
2094 Repub|             brings them into court and murders them, making the life of
2095 Repub|                bellowing of bulls, the murmur of rivers and roll of the
2096 Repub|             and regimen to develop his muscles. ~Very right, he said. ~
2097 Repub|           children of the Moon and the muses-that is what they say-according
2098 Repub|                will be the votaries of music-poets and their attendant train
2099 Repub|               like the swans and other musicians, wanting to be men. The
2100 Repub|              faint notion, I could not muster courage to utter it. Will
2101 Repub|      POLEMARCHUS.~ ~And others who are mute auditors.~The scene is laid
2102 Repub|          mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot
2103 Repub|              be justly compared to the mutinous sailors, and the true helmsmen
2104 Repub|             voices of Thrasymachus and myriads of others dinning in my
2105 Repub|              we have anointed him with myrrh, and set a garland of wool
2106 Repub|                beds strewn with yew or myrtle. And they and their children
2107 Repub|             beans; and they will roast myrtle-berries and acorns at the fire,
2108 Repub|               few might hear them in a mystery, and they should sacrifice
2109 Repub|                   As bats in hollow of mystic cavern, whenever any of
2110 Repub|                relates to the story or myth may be considered to be
2111 Repub|            with a bad version of these myths-telling how certain gods, as they
2112 Repub|             not suppose that they were naming what was actually before
2113 Repub|                be able to do without a napping judge is a far higher and
2114 Repub|              senses with drink or some narcotic drug, they mutiny and take
2115 Repub|             sort of character who will narrate anything, and, the worse
2116 Repub|              art-whether the poets, in narrating their stories, are to be
2117 Repub|          Dialogue~SOCRATES, who is the narrator. CEPHALUS.~GLACON. THRASYMACHUS.~
2118 Repub|              assume a control over the narrators of this class of tales as
2119 Repub|             the seven inner whorls are narrower, in the following proportions -
2120 Repub|           Athenian: "If you had been a native of my country or I of yours,
2121 Repub|             rule those who are not her natural-born subjects, and overturn the
2122 Repub|               into corresponding human natures-the good into the gentle and
2123 Repub|             sits in the centre, on the navel of the earth, and he is
2124 Repub|             fancy that the shepherd or neatherd fattens or tends the sheep
2125 Repub|              True. ~Yet even if we add neatherds, shepherds, and other herdsmen,
2126 Repub|                truly called necessary, necessitating as it clearly does the use
2127 Repub|               to stand up and turn his neck round and walk and look
2128 Repub|          detestable? Eriphyle took the necklace as the price of her husband'
2129 Repub|                and have their legs and necks chained so that they cannot
2130 Repub|             may we devise one of those needful falsehoods of which we lately
2131 Repub|             mean what I may illustrate negatively by the example of the body.
2132 Repub|               of which he contemns and neglects; and there may be a gifted
2133 Repub|            catching a sound from their neighbor's wall-one set of them declaring
2134 Repub|               State, somewhere in that neighborhood there are hidden away thieves
2135 Repub|               Nor may they imitate the neighing of horses, the bellowing
2136 Repub|              me in my fall. And I pray Nemesis not to visit upon me the
2137 Repub|             there is a danger that the nerves of our guardians may be
2138 Repub|                bring them into accord, nerving and sustaining the reason
2139 Repub|            also castles which are just nests for their eggs, and in which
2140 Repub|               and wenching and idling, nether drug nor cautery nor spell
2141 Repub|              mankind most regard ~"The newest song which the singers have," ~
2142 Repub|          quarry will not escape. ~Good news, he said. ~Truly, I said,
2143 Repub|               further, and to draw the nice distinction that not only
2144 Repub|         Adeimantus, Glaucon's brother, Niceratus, the son of Nicias, and
2145 Repub|         brother, Niceratus, the son of Nicias, and several others who
2146 Repub|             and temperance, which they nick-name unmanliness, is trampled
2147 Repub|        Thamyras choosing the life of a nightingale; birds, on the other hand,
2148 Repub|            steals the garments of some nightly wayfarer; next he proceeds
2149 Repub|                concerned with days and nights and months and years. ~Yes,
2150 Repub|            writes of the sufferings of Niobe-the subject of the tragedy in
2151 Repub|              place the just man in his nobleness and simplicity, wishing,
2152 Repub|            simplicity of a rightly and nobly ordered mind and character,
2153 Repub|      Thrasymachus, to see you not only nodding assent and dissent, but
2154 Repub|            known, but that the utterly non-existent is utterly unknown? ~Nothing
2155 Repub|              would claim to exceed the non-musician? ~Of course. ~And what would
2156 Repub|            would wish to go beyond the non-physician? ~Yes. ~And about knowledge
2157 Repub|              government. But these are nondescripts and may be found equally
2158 Repub|            from the Piraeus, under the north wall on the outside, observed
2159 Repub|          Scythians, and in general the Northern nations; and the same may
2160 Repub|              they will be cured by any nostrum which anybody advises them
2161 Repub|           whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union
2162 Repub|           surely, he said, this occurs notably in the case of one; for
2163 Repub|                prepared, you will have noticed how poor is the look either
2164 Repub|                 because he awakens and nourishes and strengthens the feelings
2165 Repub|           horses! I replied. That is a novelty. Will horsemen carry torches
2166      | nowhere
2167 Repub|                 Rare indeed. ~And what numberless and powerful causes tend
2168 Repub|                says that Apollo at her nuptials ~"was celebrating in song
2169 Repub|               a life which is spent in nursing his disease to the neglect
2170 Repub|             said. ~And these two, thus nurtured and educated, and having
2171 Repub|              ideal State, whom you are nurturing and educating-if the ideal
2172 Repub|               fail to meet with proper nutriment, or climate, or soil, in
2173 Repub|               that States are made of "oak and rock," and not out of
2174 Repub|            says that the gods make the oaks of the just - ~"To bear
2175 Repub|                or other artificers, or oarsmen, or boatswains, or the like? ~
2176 Repub|          spirit sit down on the ground obediently on either side of their
2177 Repub|                which they make must be obeyed by their subjects-and that
2178 Repub|               we have been brought up, obeying and honoring them. ~That
2179 Repub|             his natural gifts. And you objected that, although no one could
2180 Repub|            those stories are extremely objectionable. ~Yes, Adeimantus, they
2181 Repub|            Very true. ~And suppose the objector to refine still further,
2182 Repub|               idea in the place of the objects-is he a dreamer, or is he awake? ~
2183 Repub|              necessity of Diomede will oblige him to produce whatever
2184 Repub|              different points of view, obliquely or directly or from any
2185 Repub|               I said, we shall have to obliterate many obnoxious passages,
2186 Repub|               equal to the former, but oblong, consisting of 100 numbers
2187 Repub|                have to obliterate many obnoxious passages, beginning with
2188 Repub|              him quietly; and when she observes that his thoughts always
2189 Repub|            first place, as we began by observing, the nature of the philosopher
2190 Repub|               unimportant whether they occupy a space large or small,
2191 Repub|              which these iambic verses occur-or of the house of Pelops,
2192 Repub|              he replied, a very common occurrence. ~Yes, I said; and loyal
2193 Repub|            kindred sciences assume the odd, and the even, and the figures,
2194 Repub|                can tell that a song or ode has three parts-the words,
2195 Repub|               and by libations and the odor of fat, when they have sinned
2196 Repub|             Ithaca and throughout the "Odyssey." ~Yes. ~And a narrative
2197 Repub|              for each and all of their offences they received punishment
2198 Repub|             general or some other high officer who is brought to trial
2199 Repub|             best. ~And do you take the oldest or the youngest, or only
2200 Repub|               manner as democracy from oligarchy-I mean, after a sort? ~How? ~
2201 Repub|            must have a relish-salt and olives and cheese-and they will
2202 Repub|           trial, which is dedicated to Olympian Zeus the saviour: a sage
2203 Repub|            will most shrewdly perceive omissions or faults in art and nature,
2204 Repub|              him out, that he might go on-Yes, Cephalus, I said; but I
2205 Repub|             disorganized-when you have one-half of the world triumphing
2206 Repub|               and not merely a general one-medicine, for example, gives us health;
2207 Repub|               one, or that anything is one-to him I would appeal, saying,
2208 Repub|            regarded by them as discord only-a quarrel among friends, which
2209 Repub|                but upon this condition only-that she make a defence of herself
2210 Repub|                upon the name (ovpavos, opatos). May I suppose that you
2211 Repub|           these he cured by purges and operations, and bade them live as usual,
2212 Repub|              good and also an evil; as ophthalmia is the evil of the eyes
2213 Repub|                 And do we know what we opine? or is the subject-matter
2214 Repub|             the mind of the other, who opines only, has opinion? ~Certainly. ~
2215 Repub|            which is supplied by public opinion-I speak, my friend, of human
2216 Repub|               other; he was not to let opportunities slip, and then he would
2217 Repub|               the argument; I will not oppose you, lest I should displease
2218 Repub|               and ten thousand similar oppositions occurring at the same moment? ~
2219 Repub|              out his sorrows in a long oration, or weeping, and smiting
2220 Repub|                is a love of beauty and order-temperate and harmonious? ~Quite true,
2221 Repub|              Exactly. ~And what is the organ with which we see the visible
2222 Repub|              in making laws and in the organization of a State-what is the greatest
2223 Repub|            entertain toward philosophy originates in the pretenders, who rush
2224 Repub|              aim only at amusement and ornament? ~True. ~And then he got
2225 Repub|              in the guardianship of an orphan. ~Aye. ~It will be clear
2226 Repub|             have intercourse with each other-necessity is not too strong a word,
2227 Repub|              of them to do the work of others-he sets in order his own inner
2228 Repub|          making comparisons of him and others-is drawn opposite ways: while
2229 Repub|                chastise and master the others-whenever this is repeated to him
2230 Repub|              the eighth. The first and outermost whorl has the rim broadest,
2231 Repub|              is literally buried in an outlandish slough, is by her gentle
2232 Repub|              now only give the general outlines of the subject. ~Very good. ~
2233 Repub|                far from doing anything outrageous; and that even if he chastises
2234 Repub|              removing their dislike of over-education, you show them your philosophers
2235 Repub|                We will not, I said, be over-positive as yet; but if, on trial,
2236 Repub|               the heyday of passion is over-supposing that he then readmits into
2237 Repub|               the others or throw them overboard, and having first chained
2238 Repub|               feeds upon earth, and is overgrown by the good things in this
2239 Repub|                 while they despise and overlook those who may be weak and
2240 Repub|             and intensified by liberty overmasters democracy-the truth being
2241 Repub|       denaturalized, and is wont to be overpowered and to lose itself in the
2242 Repub|             quick to see, and swift to overtake the enemy when they see
2243 Repub|              his bulk, but himself the overthrower of many, standing up in
2244 Repub|              by avarice, combined with overweening contempt of gods and men. ~
2245 Repub|                is also the smaller, is overwhelmed by the greater mass of the
2246 Repub|              to stand firm against the overwhelming flood of popular opinion?
2247 Repub|              am playing upon the name (ovpavos, opatos). May I suppose
2248 Repub|              Then no Hellene should be owned by them as a slave; that
2249 Repub|            adapted to the purpose, the owner of the eyes will see nothing
2250 Repub|             not the turning over of an oystershell, but the turning round of
2251 Repub|                 they go off at a great pace, but in the end only look
2252 Repub|              anyone-I say, when, after pacifying the two irrational principles,
2253 Repub|         Chalcedonian, Charmantides the Paeanian, and Cleitophon, the son
2254 Repub|                 is he not likely to be pained and irritated? When he approaches
2255 Repub|        pleasantly, and the tyrant more painfully by this same interval. ~
2256 Repub|                is the more pleasant or painless-how shall we know who speaks
2257 Repub|               pleasures are mixed with pains-how can they be otherwise? For
2258 Repub|             community of pleasures and pains-where all the citizens are glad
2259 Repub|               heroes-as when a painter paints a portrait not having the
2260 Repub|          making a house or a coat or a pair of shoes, having no partnership
2261 Repub|             you ever attended to their pairing and breeding? ~In what particulars? ~
2262 Repub|            sight of women naked in the palaestra, exercising with the men,
2263 Repub|               them? ~To be sure. ~Then Palamedes, whenever he appears in
2264 Repub|      diminutives, and is not averse to paleness if appearing on the cheek
2265 Repub|               that so she may win that palm of appearance which is hers
2266 Repub|              busybody, would claim the palm-the question is not so easily
2267 Repub|        Certainly. ~Such, then, are the palms of victory which the gods
2268 Repub|               longer endurable, though pampered with all kinds of meats
2269 Repub|             the tyrant of some city of Pamphylia, and had murdered his aged
2270 Repub|              Er the son of Armenius, a Pamphylian by birth. He was slain in
2271 Repub|         weaving, and the management of pancakes and preserves, in which
2272 Repub|            that because Polydamas, the pancratiast, is stronger than we are,
2273 Repub|             that of all the professing panegyrists of justice-beginning with
2274 Repub|               somehow or other raise a pang or emotion in a lover's
2275 Repub|               soul of Epeus the son of Panopeus passing into the nature
2276 Repub|                carrying about pots and pans. ~True. ~And I can hardly
2277 Repub|                the world-the gentleman parades like a hero, and nobody
2278 Repub|               he is like a diseased or paralytic man who is compelled to
2279 Repub|          matters will have a great and paramount influence on the State for
2280 Repub|                in motion, you will be "pared by their fine wits," and
2281 Repub|             childhood, and under their parental authority we have been brought
2282 Repub|               sharing either wholly or partially in the actions of men, or
2283 Repub|           pleasure; whereas that which participates in less real being will
2284 Repub|                have a full and perfect participation of being? ~They are absolutely
2285 Repub|               I will, I said. ~I shall particularly wish to hear what were the
2286 Repub|              of them. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in
2287 Repub|             the abolition of debts and partition of lands: and after this,
2288 Repub|                another; and when these partners and helpers are gathered
2289 Repub|              And by contracts you mean partnerships? ~Exactly. ~But is the just
2290 Repub|                a song or ode has three parts-the words, the melody, and the
2291 Repub|              are regarded as active or passive (for that makes no difference
2292 Repub|             mostly found in shreds and patches. ~What do you mean? he said. ~
2293 Repub|               trebled the value of his patrimony, that which he inherited
2294 Repub|              moment were to lose their patriotism-he was to be rejected who failed,
2295 Repub|             first place, no government patronizes them; this leads to a want
2296 Repub|                He will be sure to have patterns enough. ~And there being
2297 Repub|               speaking and there was a pause, he could no longer hold
2298 Repub|                 speaking the truth and paying your debts is not a correct
2299 Repub|                their own accord, if he pays them. ~By the dog! I said,
2300 Repub|               to live orderly and in a peaceful and settled manner; they
2301 Repub|                 is aloft in air on the peak of Ida," ~and who have ~"
2302 Repub|               shall give them figs and peas and beans; and they will
2303 Repub|                opponent is thinking of peasants at a festival, who are enjoying
2304 Repub|           oracle said to Croesus, ~"By pebbly Hermus's shore he flees
2305 Repub|                and will also have some peculiarities. ~True, he said. ~In the
2306 Repub|                this I detect a certain peculiarity. ~What is that? ~The State
2307 Repub|                 Yes. ~And reasoning is peculiarly his instrument? ~Certainly. ~
2308 Repub|               wild-beast nature, which peers out in sleep. Pray, consider
2309 Repub|                 son of Poseidon, or of Peirithous, son of Zeus, going forth
2310 Repub|                son of a goddess and of Peleus who was the gentlest of
2311 Repub|               occur-or of the house of Pelops, or of the Trojan War or
2312 Repub|                the good parents to the pen or fold, and there they
2313 Repub|               These, said Er, were the penalties and retributions, and there
2314 Repub|               bodies which disease had penetrated through and through he would
2315 Repub|          finding a home, imperceptibly penetrates into manners and customs;
2316 Repub|              Certainly. ~Also in their penurious, laborious character; the
2317 Repub|           honored by lesser and meaner people-but honor of some kind they
2318 Repub|                be but a small remnant: perchance some noble and welleducated
2319 Repub|            think that his mind was the percipient, and not his eyes. And you
2320 Repub|              believe that Periander or Perdiccas or Xerxes or Ismenias the
2321 Repub|          flutes is satisfactory to the performer; he will tell him how he
2322 Repub|                 Whose? ~I believe that Periander or Perdiccas or Xerxes or
2323 Repub|                Glaucon, is the supreme peril of our human state; and
2324 Repub|              sort of thing, and rather perilous to health. Do you not observe
2325 Repub|              are on a voyage, amid the perils of the sea? ~The pilot. ~
2326 Repub|             has been saved and has not perished, and will save us if we
2327 Repub|              man, when he is detected, perishes through his own injustice,
2328 Repub|             above all men in theft and perjury." ~And so, you and Homer
2329 Repub|               is no deviation from the perpendicular; and that the circumference
2330 Repub|             going forth as they did to perpetrate a horrid rape; or of any
2331 Repub|          wickednesses are always being perpetrated by ~"The kindred of the
2332 Repub|             wrong, if he were detected perpetrating any one of them singly,
2333 Repub|        catalogue of evils, even if the perpetrators of them are few in number. ~
2334 Repub|             graces and harmonies their perpetual aim? ~They must. ~And surely
2335 Repub|                mortal disease which he perpetually tended, and as recovery
2336 Repub|               and the wood is dark and perplexing; still we must push on. ~
2337 Repub|              Yes, I said, and in these perplexities the soul naturally summons
2338 Repub|               him even after death did Persephone grant mind,] that he alone
2339 Repub|            only the more determined to persevere and conquer. His noble spirit
2340 Repub|               assistance of sense, and perseveres until by pure intelligence
2341 Repub|              of philosophy, instead of persisting, degenerates and receives
2342 Repub|              when existing in a single person-in the first place rendering
2343 Repub|                ill-governed in his own person-the tyrannical man, I mean-whom
2344 Repub|           overturn more than one stout personage? ~Certainly, he said, there
2345 Repub|         sepulture of divine and heroic personages, and what is to be their
2346 Repub|               should be his guide, not personal experience. ~Yes, he said,
2347 Repub|           imagine that he will like to personate him, and will not be ashamed
2348 Repub|              hot summer's day, and the perspiration poured from him in torrents;
2349 Repub|                or only to seem to have persuaded us, that to be just is always
2350 Repub|              never using the weapon of persuasion-he is like a wild beast, all
2351 Repub|               voices fair and loud and persuasive, and draw the cities over
2352 Repub|               Stay then, and do not be perverse. ~Glaucon said, I suppose,
2353 Repub|                grossly, as I conceive, perverting their true nature. But I
2354 Repub|                deed, or to put forth a phantom of himself? ~I cannot say,
2355 Repub|               is to say, when the true philosopher-kings are born in a State, one
2356 Repub|              are generated, being what phlegm and bile are to the body.
2357 Repub|               thought that the word of Phoebus, being divine and full of
2358 Repub|                 I replied; only an old Phoenician tale of what has often occurred
2359 Repub|            truth, be attributed to the Phoenicians and Egyptians. ~Exactly
2360 Repub|           reverend kings." ~Neither is Phoenix, the tutor of Achilles,
2361 Repub|              go abroad for his law and physic because he has none of his
2362 Repub|           those years are the prime of physical as well as of intellectual
2363 Repub|              which they sell them, and pick out the one that suits him;
2364 Repub|        fashioning the happy State, not piecemeal, or with a view of making
2365 Repub|              continuous whorl. This is pierced by the spindle, which is
2366 Repub|             soon as they were born. Of piety and impiety to gods and
2367 Repub|              not a common [Eleusinian] pig, but some huge and unprocurable
2368 Repub|                providing for a city of pigs, how else would you feed
2369 Repub|         schooled by trial, whereas the pilgrims WhO came from earth, having
2370 Repub|         pilot-that is to say, the true pilot-is he a captain of sailors
2371 Repub|             sick, he replied. ~And the pilot-that is to say, the true pilot-is
2372 Repub|             think what would happen if pilots were to be chosen according
2373 Repub|               the shepherds may have a pipe in the country. ~That is
2374 Repub|              various sounds of flutes, pipes, trumpets, and all sorts
2375 Repub|           which relates to war; for in pitching a camp or taking up a position
2376 Repub|               he said; and, I may add, pitiable. ~Therefore, that your feelings
2377 Repub|                to Simonides or Bias or Pittacus, or any other wise man or
2378 Repub|                himself in praising and pitying anyone who comes telling
2379 Repub|                and that the one is the plague of the city as the other
2380 Repub|              These two classes are the plagues of every city in which they
2381 Repub|               in the courts, either as plaintiff or defendant, but is actually
2382 Repub|             person awake, lay devising plans, but forgot them all in
2383 Repub|               virtue, but, if sown and planted in an alien soil, becomes
2384 Repub|               part of the men has been played out, and now properly enough
2385 Repub|               or manifold, for one man plays one part only? ~Yes; quite
2386 Repub|              and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I must have
2387 Repub|              the young and are full of pleasantry and gayety; they are loth
2388 Repub|             said; at the time they are pleased and well content to be at
2389 Repub|           everything which he had done pleasing to him, whether in building
2390 Repub|                will hardly feel bodily pleasure-I mean, if he be a true philosopher
2391 Repub|            away by such potent lyes as pleasure-mightier agent far in washing the
2392 Repub|           refinements and varieties of pleasure-then, as you may imagine, the
2393 Repub|          manner of the blows which the plectrum gives, and make accusations
2394 Repub|               very amenable and give a plentiful draught, she calls them
2395 Repub|               things are produced more plentifully and easily and of a better
2396 Repub|               but, as language is more pliable than wax or any similar
2397 Repub|            cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out
2398 Repub|             wars in heaven, and of the plots and fightings of the gods
2399 Repub|              hated, plotting and being plotted against, they will pass
2400 Repub|         motives, in his laughter he is plucking ~"A fruit of unripe wisdom," ~
2401 Repub|           speak of other States in the plural number; not one of them
2402 Repub|               verse which tells us how Pluto feared ~"Lest the mansions
2403 Repub|         imagine that his instructor is pointing to the objects as they pass
2404 Repub|            obey them is justice. ~Yes, Polemarchus-Thrasymachus said that for subjects to
2405 Repub|                regulations of markets, police, harbors, and the like..
2406 Repub|            said, how energetically you polish them up for the decision,
2407 Repub|               and in solid, smooth and polished bodies and the like: Do
2408 Repub|            those things unfit for ears polite, as you truly term them;
2409 Repub|               any harshness or want of politeness, let us tell her that there
2410 Repub|             enough. ~And therefore our politic Asclepius may be supposed
2411 Repub|       multitude; and they know that no politician is honest, nor is there
2412 Repub|                own hands; they are not politicians, and have not much to live
2413 Repub|            among men, and ought not to pollute the divine by any such earthly
2414 Repub|            taken from kinsmen may be a pollution unless commanded by the
2415 Repub|               mean to say that because Polydamas, the pancratiast, is stronger
2416 Repub|         himself in the fulness of vain pomp and senseless pride? ~To
2417 Repub|          outside and is dazzled at the pompous aspect which the tyrannical
2418 Repub|              on the land of a poor and portionless man than rule over all the
2419 Repub|                when a painter paints a portrait not having the shadow of
2420 Repub|                tale of Theseus, son of Poseidon, or of Peirithous, son of
2421 Repub|              has anyone a right to say positively what he does not know? ~
2422 Repub|                the power which the eye possesses is a sort of effluence which
2423 Repub|           themselves by thinking about possibilities; but assuming that what
2424 Repub|                community will be found possible-as among other animals, so
2425 Repub|               future rulers to be like posts, having no reason in them,
2426 Repub|                at hand, and working at pottery only as much as they like;
2427 Repub|              day, and the perspiration poured from him in torrents; and
2428 Repub|            ashes in both his hands and pouring them over his head, or weeping
2429 Repub|                draws from the bowl and pours into the cups;" ~is it fit
2430 Repub|          previous conclusions. For the practicability of what is said may be doubted;
2431 Repub|         whether the scheme, if ever so practicable, would be for the best,
2432 Repub|               sightloving, art-loving, practical class and those of whom
2433 Repub|          regimen, the inferior sort of practitioner is deemed to be good enough;
2434 Repub|               them, every one of which praiseworthy qualities (and this is a
2435 Repub|                not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing? ~
2436 Repub|               once from the prelude or preamble to the chief strain, and
2437 Repub|           fellows, is wonderful in the precautions which he takes, because
2438 Repub|             will be appointed by their predecessor, still they will be unworthy
2439 Repub|               lesser rules which their predecessors have altogether neglected. ~
2440 Repub|             others who are in the same predicament with myself. Perhaps we
2441 Repub|                third class are in both predicaments; and they hate and conspire
2442 Repub|                 and one thing only, is predominantly seen-the spirit of contention
2443 Repub|               still be chosen, and the preference again given to the surest
2444 Repub|                he is the author of the pregnant saying, ~"Tyrants are wise
2445 Repub|               brought to trial under a prejudice raised by informers, and
2446 Repub|           better when I have made some preliminary remarks. You are aware that
2447 Repub|               mean. ~True. ~This being premised, I would ask the gentleman
2448 Repub|               instruction, which are a preparation for dialectic, should be
2449 Repub|              the outline merely, as at present-nothing short of the most finished
2450 Repub|              all his actions, having a presentiment that there is such an end,
2451 Repub|          walking in his footsteps, but presently he sees him of a sudden
2452 Repub|        remaining in them is also their preservative; and we were saying that
2453 Repub|        benefiting that over which they preside, but would the artist receive
2454 Repub|            There was gymnastics, which presided over the growth and decay
2455 Repub|               said, such an art may be presumed. ~And whereas the other
2456 Repub|              degree of knowledge I may presuppose? ~Yes, he said; so much
2457 Repub|                the Homerids themselves pretend that he was a legislator. ~
2458 Repub|           philosophy originates in the pretenders, who rush in uninvited,
2459 Repub|               and these are due to the prevalence of the passionate or spirited
2460 Repub|               is a sort of medicine or preventive; also in the tales of mythology,
2461 Repub|                 Nor should he describe Priam, the kinsman of the gods,
2462 Repub|         disguised in the likeness of a priestess asking an alms ~"For the
2463 Repub|                 which at each hymeneal priestesses and priests and the whole
2464 Repub|               hymeneal priestesses and priests and the whole city will
2465 Repub|            must have conducted us to a primary form of justice, has now
2466 Repub|      rebellious subject against a true prince, of whom he is the natural
2467 Repub|                There are lordships and principalities which are bought and sold,
2468 Repub|           latter-I mean the rebellious principle-furnish a great variety of materials
2469 Repub|            interfering with the higher principle-which he leaves in the solitude
2470 Repub|           which arises among the three principles-a meddlesomeness, and interference,
2471 Repub|             the previous argument; the prison-house is the world of sight, the
2472 Repub|             allows himself to be taken prisoner may as well be made a present
2473 Repub|                matter of indifference. Prithee, friend, do not keep your
2474 Repub|              exiled or deprived of the privileges of a citizen, and all his
2475 Repub|              Do not rely, I said, on a probability derived from the analogy
2476 Repub|               there is another kind of probation which we did not mention-he
2477 Repub|                  By Zeus, he said, the problem to be solved is anything
2478 Repub|             geometry, we should employ problems, and let the heavens alone
2479 Repub|               but they never attain to problems-that is to say, they never reach
2480 Repub|           attempted to cure by gradual processes of evacuation and infusion:
2481 Repub|               Listen, then, he said; I proclaim that justice is nothing
2482 Repub|             sorts of materials must be procured. ~True, he said. ~Then we
2483 Repub|               Protagoras of Abdera and Prodicus of Ceos and a host of others
2484 Repub|           forms and all the artificial products that are made out of them,
2485 Repub|               things sacred as well as profane, private and public; for
2486 Repub|              pay, which is not the art professed by him? ~He gave a reluctant
2487 Repub|            which are suitable to their profession-the courageous, temperate, holy,
2488 Repub|                he is not singular; all professional athletes are well aware
2489 Repub|                that you attribute some profound meaning to my words; but
2490 Repub|           celebrating in song her fair progeny whose days were to be long,
2491 Repub|              up twelve, taking care to prohibit him whom you ask from answering
2492 Repub|              understood as an absolute prohibition of the marriage of brothers
2493 Repub|            body; and in order to avoid prolixity we will now only give the
2494 Repub|               a public festival when a promiscuous crowd is assembled in a
2495 Repub|            justice, a heavenly life is promised to me. Since then, as philosophers
2496 Repub|               twenty years old will be promoted to higher honor, and the
2497 Repub|            which make a statesman, and promoting to honor anyone who professes
2498 Repub|            from all that they hear are prone to draw conclusions as to
2499 Repub|               the great brute. Good he pronounces to be that in which the
2500 Repub|               being divine and full of prophecy, would not fail. And now