Dialogue

501  Soph|            other, which is also one?~THEAETETUS: Very likely; but will you
502  Soph|            opposed to the beautiful?~THEAETETUS: There is.~STRANGER: Shall
503  Soph|          this has or has not a name?~THEAETETUS: It has; for whatever we
504  Soph|           now tell me another thing.~THEAETETUS: What?~STRANGER: Is the
505  Soph|            to an existing something?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then the
506  Soph|        opposition of being to being?~THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: But
507  Soph| not-beautiful a less real existence?~THEAETETUS: Not at all.~STRANGER: And
508  Soph|              equally with the great?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And, in
509  Soph|            existence than the other.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: The same
510  Soph|        equally be supposed to exist.~THEAETETUS: Of course.~STRANGER: Then,
511  Soph|            what is other than being.~THEAETETUS: Beyond question.~STRANGER:
512  Soph|          What then shall we call it?~THEAETETUS: Clearly, not-being; and
513  Soph|            classes of being. Do you, Theaetetus, still feel any doubt of
514  Soph|              feel any doubt of this?~THEAETETUS: None whatever.~STRANGER:
515  Soph|             Parmenides’ prohibition?~THEAETETUS: In what?~STRANGER: We have
516  Soph|            forbad us to investigate.~THEAETETUS: How is that?~STRANGER:
517  Soph|           from this way of enquiry.’~THEAETETUS: Yes, he says so.~STRANGER:
518  Soph|          ventured to call not-being.~THEAETETUS: And surely, Stranger, we
519  Soph|            in many respects are not.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And he
520  Soph|            noble and also difficult.~THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: A
521  Soph|       approach the problem of being.~THEAETETUS: To be sure.~STRANGER: For
522  Soph|      educated or philosophical mind.~THEAETETUS: Why so?~STRANGER: The attempt
523  Soph|              to discourse of reason.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And, observe
524  Soph|          thing mingles with another.~THEAETETUS: Why so?~STRANGER: Why,
525  Soph|         admixture of natures at all.~THEAETETUS: Very true. But I do not
526  Soph|           the following explanation.~THEAETETUS: What explanation?~STRANGER:
527  Soph|             diffused over all being.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And thence
528  Soph|           with opinion and language.~THEAETETUS: How so?~STRANGER: If not-being
529  Soph|            of thought and in speech.~THEAETETUS: That is quite true.~STRANGER:
530  Soph|         surely there must be deceit.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And if there
531  Soph|              and images and fancies.~THEAETETUS: To be sure.~STRANGER: Into
532  Soph|            any way partake of being.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And now,
533  Soph|            for him in another class.~THEAETETUS: Certainly, Stranger, there
534  Soph|              end.~STRANGER: Any one, Theaetetus, who is able to advance
535  Soph|              what remains is easier.~THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: Then,
536  Soph|          neither of them ever false.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then, now,
537  Soph|              answer may be expected.~THEAETETUS: And what is the question
538  Soph|          none, or only some of them.~THEAETETUS: Clearly the last is true.~
539  Soph|        sequence cannot be connected?~THEAETETUS: What are you saying?~STRANGER:
540  Soph|              are given by the voice.~THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER:
541  Soph|          nouns, and the other verbs.~THEAETETUS: Describe them.~STRANGER:
542  Soph|       denotes action we call a verb.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And the
543  Soph|             actions, we call a noun.~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: A
544  Soph|              of verbs without nouns.~THEAETETUS: I do not understand you.~
545  Soph|              verbs is not discourse.~THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER:
546  Soph|               do not make discourse.~THEAETETUS: How can they?~STRANGER:
547  Soph|             least form of discourse.~THEAETETUS: Again I ask, What do you
548  Soph|              and least of sentences?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Yes, for
549  Soph|          give the name of discourse.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And as
550  Soph|          combine and form discourse.~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: There
551  Soph|             is another small matter.~THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: A
552  Soph|        cannot help having a subject.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And must
553  Soph|             be of a certain quality.~THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And
554  Soph|              mind what we are about.~THEAETETUS: We must do so.~STRANGER:
555  Soph|            whom the sentence speaks.~THEAETETUS: I will, to the best of
556  Soph|              of my power.~STRANGER: ‘Theaetetus sits’—not a very long sentence.~
557  Soph|            not a very long sentence.~THEAETETUS: Not very.~STRANGER: Of
558  Soph|            is what you have to tell.~THEAETETUS: Of me; I am the subject.~
559  Soph|             Or this sentence, again—~THEAETETUS: What sentence?~STRANGER: ‘
560  Soph|            What sentence?~STRANGER: ‘Theaetetus, with whom I am now speaking,
561  Soph|            now speaking, is flying.’~THEAETETUS: That also is a sentence
562  Soph|              have a certain quality.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And what
563  Soph|              of these two sentences?~THEAETETUS: The one, as I imagine,
564  Soph|              what is true about you?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And the
565  Soph|             what is other than true?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And therefore
566  Soph|             are not as if they were?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And say
567  Soph|             is and much that is not.~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: The
568  Soph|      consistent with our definition.~THEAETETUS: Yes, this was implied in
569  Soph|             it related to a subject?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Who must
570  Soph|              and can be nobody else?~THEAETETUS: Unquestionably.~STRANGER:
571  Soph|            no subject is impossible.~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: When
572  Soph|           and truly false discourse.~THEAETETUS: Most true.~STRANGER: And
573  Soph|              both as true and false.~THEAETETUS: How so?~STRANGER: You will
574  Soph|             differ from one another.~THEAETETUS: Give me the knowledge which
575  Soph|            of the soul with herself?~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: But
576  Soph|            audible is called speech?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And we
577  Soph|            there exists in speech...~THEAETETUS: What exists?~STRANGER:
578  Soph|               STRANGER: Affirmation.~THEAETETUS: Yes, we know it.~STRANGER:
579  Soph|              to call it but opinion?~THEAETETUS: There can be no other name.~
580  Soph|             not call it imagination?~THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And
581  Soph|       falsehood as well as of truth?~THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: Do
582  Soph|         would never be accomplished.~THEAETETUS: I perceive.~STRANGER: Then
583  Soph|             previous classification.~THEAETETUS: What classification?~STRANGER:
584  Soph|           imaginative or phantastic.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And we
585  Soph|            should place the Sophist.~THEAETETUS: We did say so.~STRANGER:
586  Soph|           such a thing as falsehood.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And now,
587  Soph|              of deception may arise.~THEAETETUS: Quite possible.~STRANGER:
588  Soph|             the likeness-making art?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Let us,
589  Soph|         kindred dialectical spirits.~THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: You
590  Soph|            creative and acquisitive.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And the
591  Soph|           merchandize, and the like.~THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: But
592  Soph|              and not of real things.~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: In
593  Soph|           are two kinds of creation.~THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER:
594  Soph|          human and the other divine.~THEAETETUS: I do not follow.~STRANGER:
595  Soph|           defined by us as creative.~THEAETETUS: I remember.~STRANGER: Looking,
596  Soph|           vulgar opinion about them?~THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: The
597  Soph|      knowledge which comes from God?~THEAETETUS: I dare say that, owing
598  Soph|     authority.~STRANGER: Nobly said, Theaetetus, and if I thought that you
599  Soph|          human and the other divine.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then, now,
600  Soph|      sections which we have already.~THEAETETUS: How do you mean?~STRANGER:
601  Soph|          already made a lateral one.~THEAETETUS: I have done so.~STRANGER:
602  Soph|             the gods and are divine.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And, again,
603  Soph|              divided into two parts.~THEAETETUS: Tell me the divisions once
604  Soph|            creation and work of God.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And there
605  Soph|       creation of a wonderful skill.~THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER:
606  Soph|      opposite of our ordinary sight.~THEAETETUS: Yes; and the images as
607  Soph|             for those who are awake?~THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: And
608  Soph|              imitation is concerned.~THEAETETUS: Now I begin to understand,
609  Soph|             the class of real being.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And this
610  Soph|              different kinds as two.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then, now,
611  Soph|           divide the phantastic art.~THEAETETUS: Where shall we make the
612  Soph|              himself the instrument.~THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER:
613  Soph|          part of the phantastic art.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Let this,
614  Soph|           giving it a suitable name.~THEAETETUS: Let us do as you say—assign
615  Soph|            is a further distinction, Theaetetus, which is worthy of our
616  Soph|        reason which I will tell you.~THEAETETUS: Let me hear.~STRANGER:
617  Soph|            ignorance from knowledge?~THEAETETUS: There can be no greater.~
618  Soph|            know you and your figure?~THEAETETUS: Naturally.~STRANGER: And
619  Soph|          they can, in word and deed?~THEAETETUS: Yes, that is very common.~
620  Soph|              the very opposite true?~THEAETETUS: The very opposite.~STRANGER:
621  Soph|    distinguished from him who knows?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Can we
622  Soph|     scientific or learned imitation.~THEAETETUS: Granted.~STRANGER: The
623  Soph|            those who have knowledge.~THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: Let
624  Soph|             still some crack in him.~THEAETETUS: Let us examine him.~STRANGER:
625  Soph|            many he pretends to know.~THEAETETUS: There are certainly the
626  Soph|    dissembling or ironical imitator?~THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: And
627  Soph|         having one or two divisions?~THEAETETUS: Answer yourself.~STRANGER:
628  Soph|           him to contradict himself.~THEAETETUS: What you say is most true.~
629  Soph|     statesman or the popular orator?~THEAETETUS: The latter.~STRANGER: And
630  Soph|          philosopher or the Sophist?~THEAETETUS: The philosopher he cannot
631  Soph|              genealogy to the other?~THEAETETUS: By all means.~STRANGER:
632  Soph|             will say the very truth.~THEAETETUS: Undoubtedly.~THE END~