Dialogue

 1 Intro|     pretends to have nothing to say against them, he remarks
 2 Intro|         of them led some one to say, perhaps in compliment to
 3 Intro|  replied the priest, ‘I mean to say that you are children; there
 4 Intro|         or younger, and when we say that he ‘was’ or ‘will be,’
 5 Intro|        any external thing; they say the same or the other in
 6 Intro|        intelligible. But we may say, speaking generally, that
 7 Intro|         to be necessary, for we say that all things must be
 8 Intro|         simile aut secundum, as say that Greek physics were
 9 Intro|         a line between them, or say, ‘This is poetry, this is
10 Intro|       and it would be untrue to say that the Greek, any more
11 Intro|        thought, or, as we might say, gave law and variety to
12 Intro|      the other. He means (3) to say that the creation of the
13 Intro|        eye of faith! And we may say that only by an effort of
14 Intro|    opposite. If he had meant to say that the earth revolves
15 Intro|         us. But, as Plato would say, ‘there is no harm in repeating
16 Intro|   passes a censure on those who say that the Gods have no care
17 Intro|      the Gods—that is what they say—and they must surely have
18 Intro|      self-moved,—when reason, I say, is hovering around the
19 Timae|       SOCRATES: And what did we say of their education? Were
20 Timae|         That, again, was as you say.~SOCRATES: And what about
21 Timae|        easy to remember, as you say.~SOCRATES: And do you also
22 Timae|       not know what they do and say in time of war, when they
23 Timae|    lovers of the Athenians, and say that they are in some way
24 Timae|        what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind
25 Timae|         might have something to say. And now, Socrates, to make
26 Timae|       anything—was the world, I say, always in existence and
27 Timae| language of probability, we may say that the world became a
28 Timae|       self-moved—when reason, I say, is hovering around the
29 Timae|    other than the soul, he will say the very opposite of the
30 Timae|         eternal essence; for we say that he ‘was,’ he ‘is,’
31 Timae|       number. Moreover, when we say that what has become IS
32 Timae|    their approximations, and to say which of these deities in
33 Timae|      the gods—that is what they say—and they must surely have
34 Timae|       in vain. Thus much let me say however: God invented and
35 Timae|     first compounds. And let me say thus much: I will not now
36 Timae|         each of them is; for to say, with any probability or
37 Timae|     this’ or ‘that,’ but rather say that it is ‘of such a nature’;
38 Timae|    considerations, we may truly say that fire is that part of
39 Timae|        distinct classes, then I say that there certainly are
40 Timae|      mind; if, however, as some say, true opinion differs in
41 Timae|        beholding as in a dream, say of all existence that it
42 Timae|         absence of God; this, I say, was their nature at that
43 Timae| maintained by us in all that we say that God made them as far
44 Timae|        then we shall be able to say that we have sufficiently
45 Timae|       into one another; this, I say, was an erroneous supposition,
46 Timae|       fiery bodies gather—if, I say, he were to ascend thither,
47 Timae|      and air and earth—these, I say, he separated from their
48 Timae|         and right that I should say a word in turn; for it is
49 Timae|     than the body, that soul, I say, convulses and fills with
50 Timae|      diviner part of us—then, I say, the motions of the stronger,
51 Timae|    being that part which, as we say, dwells at the top of the
52 Timae|       in heaven. And in this we say truly; for the divine power
53 Timae|    wisdom and folly.~We may now say that our discourse about