Dialogue

 1 Intro|       distinguished from the kindred arts; and then, following this
 2 Intro|           there not a measure of all arts and sciences, to which the
 3 Intro|             making a division of the arts and sciences into theoretical
 4 Intro|          carpentering and handicraft arts of the latter (compare Philebus).
 5 Intro|       struggle for existence without arts or knowledge, and had no
 6 Intro|    Hephaestus and Athene taught them arts, and other gods gave them
 7 Intro|             kindred and co-operative arts. For the first process to
 8 Intro|        weaving. Again, there are the arts which make the weaver’s
 9 Intro|        distinct; because these other arts require to be first cleared
10 Intro|          co-operative or subordinate arts. To the causal class belong
11 Intro|              causal class belong the arts of washing and mending,
12 Intro|           the threads, and the other arts of working in wool; these
13 Intro|            and defect. There are two arts of measuring—one is concerned
14 Intro|            or any other; for all the arts guard against excess or
15 Intro|            endeavour to show, if the arts are to exist; and the proof
16 Intro|              to the existence of the arts. The standard or measure,
17 Intro|             now only applying to the arts, may be some day required
18 Intro|              in the one part all the arts which measure the relative
19 Intro|              causal and co-operative arts which exist in states; these
20 Intro|               any more than with the arts of making (3) vehicles,
21 Intro|               Then (6) there are the arts which furnish gold, silver,
22 Intro|           science; any more than the arts (7) which provide food and
23 Intro|             be the consequence?~‘The arts would utterly perish, and
24 Intro|           can become quite pure. The arts of the general, the judge,
25 Intro|      selecting the proper subsidiary arts which are necessary for
26 Intro|        Hephaestus a knowledge of the arts; other gods give him seeds
27 Intro|            the natural growth of the arts and of civilised society.
28 Intro|            this way removed; (2) the arts are attributed to a divine
29 Intro|           the general analogy of the arts is constantly employed by
30 Intro|             comparison of particular arts—weaving, the refining of
31 Intro|           Measure is the life of the arts, and may some day be discovered
32 Intro|              causal and co-operative arts, which may be compared with
33 Intro|              conception of two great arts of composition and division,
34 Intro|        conception of a mean, the two arts of measuring.~In the Theaetetus,
35 Intro|        Statesman. The same ingenious arts of giving verisimilitude
36 State|            and certain other kindred arts, merely abstract knowledge,
37 State|             knowledge than to manual arts and to practical life in
38 State|            unmistakeably, one of the arts of knowledge?~YOUNG SOCRATES:
39 State|             and the numerous kindred arts which exercise command;
40 State|            STRANGER: There were many arts of shepherding, and one
41 State|              them by Prometheus, the arts by Hephaestus and his fellow-worker,
42 State|            not from the co-operative arts.~YOUNG SOCRATES: And which
43 State|            And which are the kindred arts?~STRANGER: I see that I
44 State|            are what I termed kindred arts.~YOUNG SOCRATES: I understand.~
45 State|           and subtracted the various arts of making water-tight which
46 State|           other crafts, and all such arts as furnish impediments to
47 State|            we to regard all these as arts of weaving?~YOUNG SOCRATES:
48 State|             And yet surely all these arts will maintain that they
49 State|         Besides these, there are the arts which make tools and instruments
50 State|              greatest and noblest of arts which are concerned with
51 State|           for do not all those other arts require to be first cleared
52 State|          that there are two kinds of arts entering into everything
53 State|              you mean?~STRANGER: The arts which do not manufacture
54 State|            without which the several arts could not fulfil their appointed
55 State|      distinction.~STRANGER: Thus the arts which make spindles, combs,
56 State|             Very true.~STRANGER: The arts of washing and mending,
57 State|            and the other preparatory arts which belong to the causal
58 State|          both these are parts of two arts at once.~YOUNG SOCRATES:
59 State|              to one of the two great arts which are of universal application—
60 State|      doctrine be the ruin of all the arts and their creations; would
61 State|             disappear? For all these arts are on the watch against
62 State|            the very existence of the arts must be held to depend on
63 State|        maintaining; for if there are arts, there is a standard of
64 State|       standard of measure, there are arts; but if either is wanting,
65 State|              in the one part all the arts which measure number, length,
66 State|           separated from the similar arts of shepherds, and, indeed,
67 State|              causal and co-operative arts those which are immediately
68 State|        STRANGER: You know that these arts cannot easily be divided
69 State|         example of weaving—all those arts which furnish the tools
70 State|          with still more reason, all arts which make any implement
71 State|            of which and in which the arts already mentioned fabricate
72 State|              offspring of many other arts, may I not rank sixth?~YOUNG
73 State|           animals, and other similar arts which manufacture corks
74 State|              husbandry and the other arts, some sitting in the market-place,
75 State| consideration, that neither of these arts shall any longer be allowed
76 State|              YOUNG SOCRATES: All the arts would utterly perish, and
77 State|              there remain the nobler arts of the general and the judge,
78 State|         learning music or handicraft arts in general?~YOUNG SOCRATES:
79 State|             to decide which of these arts are and are not to be learned;—
80 State|            science which governs the arts of speech and persuasion.~
81 State|        STRANGER: And, therefore, the arts which we have described,
82 State|            commanding the subsidiary arts to execute the works which