Dialogue

 1 Intro|       herdsman’s art? ‘I should say, that there is one management
 2 Intro|        water-herds:— I need not say with which the king is concerned.
 3 Intro|       beasts;—in either case, I say, there would be no difficulty
 4 Intro|        the Statesman; but if we say ‘managing’ or ‘tending’
 5 Intro|       weaver’s tools. And if we say that the weaver’s art is
 6 Intro| standard. Many accomplished men say that the art of measurement
 7 Intro|         laws? The common people say: Let a man persuade the
 8 Intro| effecting the cure? Or shall we say, that the violence is just,
 9 Intro|       of rest and quietness. We say, how manly! how vigorous!
10 Intro|     vigorous! how ready! and we say also, how calm! how temperate!
11 Intro|      may be blamed; but who can say what is excess, unless he
12 Intro|    Graces. We do not venture to say that Plato was soured by
13 State|       of enquiry. And please to say, whether he, too, should
14 State|          YOUNG SOCRATES: I dare say.~STRANGER: But yet the division
15 State|        STRANGER: Then, shall we say that the king has a greater
16 State|        May we not very properly say, that of all knowledge,
17 State|        old man. And now, as you say, leaving the discussion
18 State|      the error of which, as you say, we were guilty in our recent
19 State|        separate name, you might say that here too was a single
20 State|    YOUNG SOCRATES: All that you say has been abundantly proved,
21 State|       By all means.~STRANGER: I say that we should have begun
22 State|         really have done as you say?~YOUNG SOCRATES: What?~STRANGER:
23 State|       mean?~STRANGER: I mean to say that merchants, husbandmen,
24 State| STRANGER: But if this is as you say, can our argument about
25 State|        summit. Shall we do as I say?~YOUNG SOCRATES: By all
26 State|          and remember what they say happened at that time?~YOUNG
27 State|    blasphemy. Hence we must not say that the world is either
28 State|       mean?~STRANGER: I mean to say that when we were asked
29 State|         any special duty; if we say either ‘tending’ the herds,
30 State| SOCRATES: What are you going to say?~STRANGER: That they distinguish
31 State|       the State; and may we not say that the art of weaving,
32 State|     carder’s art; for we cannot say that carding is weaving,
33 State|      Again, if a person were to say that the art of making the
34 State|        art of weaving, he would say what was paradoxical and
35 State|        sure.~STRANGER: Shall we say that the whole art of the
36 State|    STRANGER: But why did we not say at once that weaving is
37 State| accomplished men, Socrates, who say, believing themselves to
38 State|       make up a word, should we say that the question is intended
39 State|     auditors. Reason would also say to him who censures the
40 State|     Very good;—let us do as you say.~STRANGER: The art of the
41 State|      yet we are not inclined to say that any of them is a product
42 State|       of which I have a word to say.~YOUNG SOCRATES: What class
43 State|   having this power; that is to say, not like an instrument,
44 State|          this manifold class, I say, which is the creation and
45 State|    STRANGER: But what would you say of some other serviceable
46 State|    there would be a hundred, or say fifty, who could?~YOUNG
47 State|        greater part of what you say; but as to their ruling
48 State|    STRANGER: But what would you say, if he came back sooner
49 State|     accordance with them; if, I say, the wise legislator were
50 State|      the moment.~STRANGER: They say that if any one knows how
51 State|         right?~STRANGER: I dare say. But supposing that he does
52 State|     absurd thing which he could say about such violence is that
53 State|          STRANGER: And shall we say that the violence, if exercised
54 State|         or comprising motion,—I say, if all these things were
55 State|        highest truths—I mean to say, that they are wholly unaquainted
56 State|         must.~STRANGER: You may say that of the three forms,
57 State|         be learned;—what do you say?~YOUNG SOCRATES: I should
58 State|   latter.~STRANGER: You mean to say that the science which judges
59 State|       to be consistent, we must say different.~STRANGER: And
60 State|    STRANGER: And do we not then say the opposite of what we
61 State|    Quite true.~STRANGER: Can we say that such a connexion as
62 State|       in those only, may we not say that union is implanted