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(...) Philebus
Part
2001 Intro| pleasure is one, Socrates may retort by saying that knowledge
2002 Intro| knowledge into classes, you may leave the further consideration
2003 Intro| music, for example, you may begin with the most general
2004 Intro| of any other subject, you may be said to know that subject.
2005 Intro| himself. That he will, if he may be allowed to make one or
2006 Intro| rejected. And yet there may be a life of mind, not human
2007 Intro| cause of the union. More may be added if they are wanted,
2008 Intro| obtained our classes, we may determine in which our conqueror
2009 Intro| and awful question, which may be prefaced by another.
2010 Intro| and yet, perhaps, they may be only magnifying themselves.
2011 Intro| the examination of them may show us whether all pleasure
2012 Intro| and restoration of limit, may there not be a neutral state,
2013 Intro| but in the mind. And there may be an intermediate state,
2014 Intro| Another question is raised: May not pleasures, like opinions,
2015 Intro| to both of them qualities may be attributed; for pleasures
2016 Intro| pleasures as well as opinions may be described as good or
2017 Intro| based on perception, which may be correct or mistaken.
2018 Intro| correct or mistaken. You may see a figure at a distance,
2019 Intro| the shepherds.’ And you may affirm this in a proposition
2020 Intro| which are inscribed by them may be either true or false;
2021 Intro| true or false; and they may represent either past, present,
2022 Intro| false ones. And as there may be opinion about things
2023 Intro| opinion still, so there may be pleasure about things
2024 Intro| pleasureable, painful, neutral; we may embellish a little by calling
2025 Intro| not agree with them, we may use them as diviners who
2026 Intro| pleasure which they give may be quite overpowering, and
2027 Intro| ignorance is self-conceit—a man may fancy himself richer, fairer,
2028 Intro| who thus deceives himself may be strong or weak? ‘He may.’
2029 Intro| may be strong or weak? ‘He may.’ And if he is strong we
2030 Intro| in tragedy, the spectator may view the performance with
2031 Intro| themselves are pure, but may be attended by an accidental
2032 Intro| moderate and immoderate? We may answer the question by an
2033 Intro| creative arts, then, we may make two classes—the less
2034 Intro| arithmetic and mensuration again may be subdivided with reference
2035 Intro| analogy of pleasure, we may say that the philosophical
2036 Intro| having the materials, we may proceed to mix them—first
2037 Intro| argument is complete, and may be compared to an incorporeal
2038 Intro| Thus, pleasure and mind may both renounce the claim
2039 Intro| actions (how I know them) may not always be the highest
2040 Intro| aspect of philosophy which may not with reason be ascribed
2041 Intro| temperate only that they may enjoy the pleasures of intemperance,
2042 Intro| it.~Before proceeding, we may make a few admissions which
2043 Intro| field of dispute; and we may as well leave behind a few
2044 Intro| all human actions are or may be included. The desire
2045 Intro| opinion of the world. Whatever may be the hypothesis on which
2046 Intro| which in doubtful cases may be applied to the regulation
2047 Intro| origin of our moral ideas may be shortly summed up as
2048 Intro| of public opinion. They may be corrected and enlarged
2049 Intro| enlarged by experience, they may be reasoned about, they
2050 Intro| be reasoned about, they may be brought home to us by
2051 Intro| circumstances of our lives, they may be intensified by imagination,
2052 Intro| ordinary rules of morality may create out of them for himself
2053 Intro| of religion and right.~We may further remark that our
2054 Intro| communicated to each of us. We may represent them to ourselves
2055 Intro| theories is the true one? we may answer: All of them—moral
2056 Intro| mature ideas of morality, we may now proceed to state the
2057 Intro| interest to that of other men, may become a passion to a rightly
2058 Intro| virtues, including justice, may be explained. Admitting
2059 Intro| working out their happiness we may be said to be ‘working together
2060 Intro| stronger than any old religion, may be based upon such a conception.~
2061 Intro| generally the least share, and may be a great sufferer.~And
2062 Intro| practical,—so Christian, as we may say without exaggeration,—
2063 Intro| his first enthusiasm, he may not recognize the proportions
2064 Intro| the rest of the world; or may degenerate in the next generation.
2065 Intro| have assigned to them.~We may preface the criticism with
2066 Intro| applications in practice, so also may be developed in theory into
2067 Intro| whether in some cases there may not be a conflict of duties:
2068 Intro| general principles of morals may be presented to us are many
2069 Intro| the more general principle may correct prejudices and misconceptions,
2070 Intro| rule on which thou actest may be adopted as a law by all
2071 Intro| by all rational beings,’ may exercise on the mind of
2072 Intro| measure of a man’s happiness may be out of all proportion
2073 Intro| coextensive with right. Or we may reply that happiness is
2074 Intro| the happiness of others may be a counsel of perfection,
2075 Intro| of telling a lie, which may often make the greatest
2076 Intro| happiness to one person may be the cause of unhappiness
2077 Intro| performed by one person may increase the happiness of
2078 Intro| the happiness of mankind may have the opposite effect
2079 Intro| happiness of mankind which may not under other circumstances
2080 Intro| that the hold of morality may also be weakened, and the
2081 Intro| sacrifice himself that they may be saved from the persecution
2082 Intro| that they in their turn may be able to undergo similar
2083 Intro| and that of others there may be happiness in the distance,
2084 Intro| theories of philosophers. It may be compared with other notions,
2085 Intro| chief good of Plato, which may be best expressed to us
2086 Intro| obedience to law, which may be summed up under the word ‘
2087 Intro| only conceding that they may choose the form under which
2088 Intro| of thought. Though they may be shorn of their glory,
2089 Intro| my country, the world? may check the rising feeling
2090 Intro| and superstitions of men may be brought:—whatever does
2091 Intro| the stake in order that he may promote the happiness of
2092 Intro| and the like. And many may be inclined to think that
2093 Intro| growth of reflection. And he may also truly add that for
2094 Intro| leading men to ask how evil may be diminished and good increased—
2095 Intro| policy the public interest may be promoted, and to understand
2096 Intro| principle of human life. We may try them in this comparison
2097 Intro| Act so that thy action may be the law of every intelligent
2098 Intro| consideration of its content: it may be for great good or for
2099 Intro| with motives of this world may easily be in excess, may
2100 Intro| may easily be in excess, may be fanatical, may be interested,
2101 Intro| excess, may be fanatical, may be interested, may be the
2102 Intro| fanatical, may be interested, may be the mask of ambition,
2103 Intro| be the mask of ambition, may be perverted in a thousand
2104 Intro| of moral philosophy, we may now arrange our goods in
2105 Intro| still incomplete; or he may be more truly said to have
2106 Intro| names of the gods, which may be not unaptly compared
2107 Intro| other ages; for this also may be comprehended under the
2108 Intro| singular acknowledgment which may be regarded as the anticipation
2109 Intro| although some of the old ones may do again.’ Let us pause
2110 Intro| errors in psychology. We may contrast the contempt which
2111 Intro| anticipated in his writings, may we not truly describe him
2112 Text | wisdom, the life of pleasure may still have the advantage
2113 Text | now do so.~PROTARCHUS: You may appeal to us; we too will
2114 Text | and yet particular figures may be absolutely opposed to
2115 Text | pleasure is not pleasure, he may argue, as we are doing,
2116 Text | that in self-defence I may, if I like, follow your
2117 Text | position; then perhaps we may come to an understanding
2118 Text | to a fallacy?~PROTARCHUS: May none of this befal us, except
2119 Text | process of testing them, they may show whether pleasure is
2120 Text | that my view or that yours may prevail, but I presume that
2121 Text | the one and many, which I may say that everybody has by
2122 Text | danger that we and Philebus may all set upon you, if you
2123 Text | there no charm by which we may dispel all this confusion,
2124 Text | is.~SOCRATES: One which may be easily pointed out, but
2125 Text | everything. Having found it, we may next proceed to look for
2126 Text | then, and not till then, we may rest from division, and
2127 Text | the endless individuals may allow them to drop into
2128 Text | are saying.~SOCRATES: I may illustrate my meaning by
2129 Text | and a note of equal pitch:—may we affirm so much?~PROTARCHUS:
2130 Text | you are perfect; and you may be said to understand any
2131 Text | shall answer him; there may be something ridiculous
2132 Text | properly, in order that we may not forget to examine and
2133 Text | according to their kinds; or you may let the matter drop, if
2134 Text | Perhaps, Philebus, you may be right in saying so of
2135 Text | place, and does not, if I may trust my own mind, attain
2136 Text | would have fallen too, and may therefore be thought to
2137 Text | however, of the old ones may do again. And must I then
2138 Text | sense many, and the finite may be hereafter discussed.~
2139 Text | particulars, let me know whether I may not assume as a note of
2140 Text | extremely,’ and the like, may not be referred to the class
2141 Text | number and measure—all these may, I think, be rightly reckoned
2142 Text | the agent and the cause may be rightly called one?~PROTARCHUS:
2143 Text | SOCRATES: And the same may be said of the patient,
2144 Text | distinct from them,—and may therefore be called a fourth
2145 Text | down by the finite, and may therefore be truly said
2146 Text | PROTARCHUS: The proverb may be applied to us; for truly
2147 Text | SOCRATES: And the same may be said of the cosmos, which
2148 Text | which for the same reason may be considered to be a body,
2149 Text | What question?~SOCRATES: May our body be said to have
2150 Text | seasons and months, and may be justly called wisdom
2151 Text | source of pleasure, if I may be allowed to speak in the
2152 Text | PROTARCHUS: You mean that he may live neither rejoicing nor
2153 Text | and who knows whether this may not be the most divine of
2154 Text | pleasure is a point which may be considered hereafter
2155 Text | SOCRATES: And the soul may be truly said to be oblivious
2156 Text | Yes.~SOCRATES: And memory may, I think, be rightly described
2157 Text | as yet he has them not. May we not say of him, that
2158 Text | Protarchus, by the two pains? May not a man who is empty have
2159 Text | PROTARCHUS: I grant that opinions may be true or false, but not
2160 Text | qualities in other objects, may not pleasure and pain be
2161 Text | nature?~SOCRATES: An object may be often seen at a distance
2162 Text | very clearly, and the seer may want to determine what it
2163 Text | is the question which he may be supposed to put to himself
2164 Text | True.~SOCRATES: To which he may guess the right answer,
2165 Text | SOCRATES: Or again, he may be misled, and then he will
2166 Text | thoughts occur to him, he may not unfrequently keep them
2167 Text | bodily ones; from which we may infer that anticipatory
2168 Text | also pictured in us; a man may often have a vision of a
2169 Text | and in the picture there may be a likeness of himself
2170 Text | PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And may we not say that the good,
2171 Text | anything or anyhow; and he may be pleased about things
2172 Text | undeniable.~SOCRATES: And may not the same be said about
2173 Text | existence in us, because this may assist our final decision.~
2174 Text | SOCRATES: Then now you may infer what happens in such
2175 Text | in another direction we may not find pleasures and pains
2176 Text | there is no such interval, I may ask what would be the necessary
2177 Text | Very true.~SOCRATES: We may assume then that there are
2178 Text | Philebus.~PROTARCHUS: And who may they be?~SOCRATES: Certain
2179 Text | This is the use which you may make of them. And when you
2180 Text | apply cold to them, you may often produce the most intense
2181 Text | or pleasure, as the case may be, of the outer parts;
2182 Text | which ignorance of self may be shown?~PROTARCHUS: What
2183 Text | about money; the ignorant may fancy himself richer than
2184 Text | Certainly.~SOCRATES: And may not all this be truly called
2185 Text | lying conceit of themselves may of course be divided, like
2186 Text | when they are laughed at, may be truly called ridiculous,
2187 Text | who can defend themselves may be more truly described
2188 Text | but powerless ignorance may be reckoned, and in truth
2189 Text | when they are powerful: May we not say, as I was saying
2190 Text | Socrates, however eager he may be to assert the opposite
2191 Text | PROTARCHUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: We may observe that our conclusions
2192 Text | I want to know whether I may depart; or will you keep
2193 Text | midnight? I fancy that I may obtain my release without
2194 Text | understand.~SOCRATES: To these may be added the pleasures of
2195 Text | Not necessarily, but there may be times of reflection,
2196 Text | pleasures and those which may be rightly termed impure,
2197 Text | element in either of them, I may present the pure element
2198 Text | of pleasure and knowledge may be brought up for judgment.~
2199 Text | and the other less; and may not the one part be regarded
2200 Text | of the science; and there may be reasonably supposed to
2201 Text | As you please.~SOCRATES: May I not have led you into
2202 Text | SOCRATES: And these names may be said to have their truest
2203 Text | pleasure and wisdom, and we may be compared to artists who
2204 Text | saying, that the second place may be duly assigned.~PROTARCHUS:
2205 Text | one, which is pleasure, may be likened to a fountain
2206 Text | perfect knowledge, if that may be, of ourselves in every
2207 Text | argument is now completed, and may be compared to an incorporeal
2208 Text | Socrates.~SOCRATES: And may we not say with reason that
2209 Text | idea only, with three we may catch our prey; Beauty,
2210 Text | these taken together we may regard as the single cause
2211 Text | is another question which may be easily answered; for
Protagoras
Part
2212 Intro| class of difficulties, which may be ascribed to preconceived
2213 Intro| Aristotle that the same quality may have more than one opposite;
2214 Intro| prevailed in his own day, and may be compared with his condemnation
2215 Intro| lesser touches of satire may be observed, such as the
2216 Intro| addressing a Lesbian. The whole may also be considered as a
2217 Intro| in the introduction. It may be remarked that Protagoras
2218 Intro| in this Dialogue. Also it may be observed that Socrates
2219 Intro| knowledge to virtue, and may be regarded, if not as preliminary
2220 Intro| a hasty assumption, but may be also deemed an anticipation
2221 Text | man,—and he is a man, as I may tell you in your ear. But
2222 Text | you now, in order that you may speak to him on my behalf;
2223 Text | Protagoras is of this nature: may you not learn of him in
2224 Text | The player on the lyre may be supposed to make a man
2225 Text | he understands?~Yes, that may be assumed.~And what is
2226 Text | trainer or physician who may happen to buy of them. In
2227 Text | what is good and evil, you may safely buy knowledge of
2228 Text | into the body as food, you may deposit them at home and
2229 Text | heard what he has to say, we may take counsel of others;
2230 Text | and therefore I hope, as I may say, by the favour of heaven
2231 Text | hold a council in which you may sit and discuss.—This was
2232 Text | phenomenon.~And that you may not suppose yourself to
2233 Text | but to be a thing which may be taught; and which comes
2234 Text | another injustice, and they may be described generally as
2235 Text | which the other is deficient may be acquired. If you will
2236 Text | opinion of mankind virtue may be acquired; no one punishes
2237 Text | he who sees him punished, may be deterred from doing wrong
2238 Text | evil doers; and hence, we may infer them to be of the
2239 Text | those who think that virtue may be acquired and taught.
2240 Text | of which the ignorance may cause death and exile to
2241 Text | as death, and, in a word, may be the ruin of families—
2242 Text | heart, in order that he may imitate or emulate them
2243 Text | souls, in order that they may learn to be more gentle,
2244 Text | order that their bodies may better minister to the virtuous
2245 Text | virtuous mind, and that they may not be compelled through
2246 Text | branch of knowledge which may be assumed equally to be
2247 Text | endeavour to show that virtue may be taught, and that this
2248 Text | saying just now? Perhaps I may not have heard you rightly,
2249 Text | would tell me whether I may be permitted to give this
2250 Text | another of them. And you may prove that they are like
2251 Text | which nevertheless many may be found to assert.~And
2252 Text | argument; and yet the result may be that I who ask and you
2253 Text | who ask and you who answer may both be put on our trial.~
2254 Text | there are some things which may be inexpedient, and yet
2255 Text | and young branches; or I may instance olive oil, which
2256 Text | Callias, that Protagoras may fairly claim to speak in
2257 Text | bound for that, although he may pretend in fun that he has
2258 Text | speech, that your words may be grander and more becoming
2259 Text | conversation and discussion may go on as you desire. If
2260 Text | of very ancient date, and may be as old as Simonides or
2261 Text | any other foreigners who may happen to be in their country,
2262 Text | Cretans— in order that they may not unlearn the lessons
2263 Text | cultivation. And hereby you may know that I am right in
2264 Text | Lacedaemonians, and any one may perceive that their wisdom
2265 Text | descent of a great storm may make the pilot helpless,
2266 Text | physician; for the good may become bad, as another poet
2267 Text | a good physician; for he may become a bad one also: but
2268 Text | In like manner the good may become deteriorated by time,
2269 Text | continuously good, but that he may become good and may also
2270 Text | that he may become good and may also become bad; and again
2271 Text | necessarily incurred by them may be increased: but the good
2272 Text | refuse to proceed, that we may know his intention; and
2273 Text | finds some one to whom he may show his discoveries, and
2274 Text | his discoveries, and who may confirm him in them. And
2275 Text | things which a good man may be expected to understand,
2276 Text | For I dare say that you may have said what you did only
2277 Text | I prove in this way: You may observe that many men are
2278 Text | courageous. For confidence may be given to men by art,
2279 Text | author of the discussion.~May I employ an illustration?
2280 Text | chest and back to me that I may have a better view:—that
2281 Text | about knowledge, that I may know whether you agree with
2282 Text | their notion is that a man may have knowledge, and yet
2283 Text | knowledge which is in him may be overmastered by anger,
2284 Text | believe, I said, that they may be of use in helping us
2285 Text | other than pleasure, you may still retract. Are you satisfied,
2286 Text | choose the greater when he may have the less.~All of us
2287 Text | first statement, as you may remember, was that whereas
2288 Text | impetuous or goers. (You may remember, Protagoras, that
The Republic
Book
2289 1 | to remain where you are. ~May there not be the alternative,
2290 1 | alternative, I said, that we may persuade you to let us go? ~
2291 1 | going to listen; of that you may be assured. ~Adeimantus
2292 1 | gone a journey which I too may have to go, and of whom
2293 1 | old age, the same reply may be made; for to the good
2294 1 | have peace with himself. ~May I ask, Cephalus, whether
2295 1 | that is very true, but may I ask another question?-
2296 1 | with the thought that they may be true: either from the
2297 1 | You think that justice may be of use in peace as well
2298 1 | Surely, he said, a man may be expected to love those
2299 1 | and of an enemy the same may be said. ~You would argue
2300 1 | upon us. Polemarchus and I may have been guilty of a little
2301 1 | answers? ~I dare say that I may, notwithstanding the danger,
2302 1 | in making their laws they may sometimes make them rightly,
2303 1 | admitted that the rulers may be mistaken about their
2304 1 | acknowledges that rulers may sometime command what is
2305 1 | acknowledged that the stronger may command the weaker who are
2306 1 | you mean? ~I mean what I may illustrate negatively by
2307 1 | has wants; for the body may be ill and require to be
2308 1 | the same way that the eye may be deficient in sight or
2309 1 | injustice, fearing that they may be the victims of it and
2310 1 | eyes-to determine how life may be passed by each one of
2311 1 | For, granting that there may be an unjust man who is
2312 1 | of injustice, and there may be others who are in the
2313 1 | with myself. Perhaps we may be wrong; if so, you in
2314 1 | what you think, that we may make a little progress. ~
2315 1 | the health of the pilot may be improved by a sea voyage.
2316 1 | of pay. The various arts may be doing their own business
2317 1 | therefore in order that rulers may be willing to rule, they
2318 1 | yourself at our expense. ~I may be in earnest or not, but
2319 1 | action, in order that he may have more than all? ~True. ~
2320 1 | more than all? ~True. ~We may put the matter thus, I said-the
2321 1 | of justice and injustice may be carried on regularly.
2322 1 | would not deny that a State may be unjust and may be unjustly
2323 1 | State may be unjust and may be unjustly attempting to
2324 1 | enslave other States, or may have already enslaved them,
2325 1 | already enslaved them, and may be holding many of them
2326 1 | the ear? ~No. These, then, may be truly said to be the
2327 1 | ends of these organs? ~They may. ~But you can cut off a
2328 1 | for the purpose? ~True. ~May we not say that this is
2329 1 | end of a pruning-hook? ~We may. ~Then now I think you will
2330 2 | liberty which we are supposing may be most completely given
2331 2 | same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great
2332 2 | to describe; but as you may think the description a
2333 2 | the words of AEschylus may be more truly spoken of
2334 2 | despise and overlook those who may be weak and poor, even though
2335 2 | words of Hesiod: ~"Vice may be had in abundance without
2336 2 | a witness that the gods may be influenced by men; for
2337 2 | also says: ~"The gods, too, may be turned from their purpose;
2338 2 | expiations and atonements for sin may be made by sacrifices and
2339 2 | ascend a loftier tower which may be a fortress to me all
2340 2 | persons who say that they may be influenced and turned
2341 2 | we are just, although we may escape the vengeance of
2342 2 | the divinity within him may have inspired with a hatred
2343 2 | better adopt a method which I may illustrate thus; suppose
2344 2 | State is completed there may be a hope that the object
2345 2 | supply this great demand: We may suppose that one man is
2346 2 | order that our husbandmen may have oxen to plough with,
2347 2 | builders as well as husbandmen may have draught cattle, and
2348 2 | And with such a diet they may be expected to live in peace
2349 2 | good or harm, thus much we may affirm, that now we have
2350 2 | easily acquired that a man may be a warrior who is also
2351 2 | am speaking, I replied, may be also seen in the dog,
2352 2 | the same, he replied. ~And may we not say confidently of
2353 2 | and knowledge? ~That we may safely affirm. ~Then he
2354 2 | not this an inquiry which may be expected to throw light
2355 2 | I do. ~And literature may be either true or false? ~
2356 2 | hear any casual tales which may be devised by casual persons,
2357 2 | speaking? he said. ~You may find a model of the lesser
2358 2 | permitted to say; though he may say that the wicked are
2359 2 | shapes? ~He cannot. ~But may he not change and transform
2360 2 | witchcraft and deception they may make us think that they
2361 2 | lie, if such an expression may be allowed, is hated of
2362 2 | soul of him who is deceived may be called the true lie;
2363 2 | say not. ~Or perhaps he may tell a lie because he is
2364 2 | is inconceivable. ~But he may have friends who are senseless
2365 3 | that these horrible stories may not have a use of some kind;
2366 3 | nerves of our guardians may be rendered too excitable
2367 3 | misfortune of this sort which may befall him. ~Yes, he will
2368 3 | defenders of their country may scorn to do the like. ~That
2369 3 | rebuke any inclination which may arise in his mind to say
2370 3 | with their own citizens, may be allowed to lie for the
2371 3 | They are ill spoken. ~They may very possibly afford some
2372 3 | understand; and perhaps I may be more intelligible if
2373 3 | replied. ~And narration may be either simple narration
2374 3 | in the person of another, may we not say that he assimilates
2375 3 | the narrative of the poet may be said to proceed by way
2376 3 | However, in order that I may make my meaning quite clear,
2377 3 | quite clear, and that you may no more say, "I don't understand,"
2378 3 | understand, he said. ~Or you may suppose the opposite case-that
2379 3 | Yes, I said; but there may be more than this in question:
2380 3 | but whither the argument may blow, thither we go. ~And
2381 3 | true, he replied. ~Neither may they imitate smiths or other
2382 3 | callings of any of these? ~Nor may they imitate the neighing
2383 3 | madness be forbidden, neither may they copy the behavior of
2384 3 | of narrative style which may be employed by a truly good
2385 3 | relates to the story or myth may be considered to be finished;
2386 3 | they should be; though I may guess. ~At any rate you
2387 3 | that degree of knowledge I may presuppose? ~Yes, he said;
2388 3 | said; so much as that you may. ~And as for the words,
2389 3 | city, and the shepherds may have a pipe in the country. ~
2390 3 | also the loveliest? ~That may be assumed. ~And the man
2391 3 | the body as far as this may be possible. What do you
2392 3 | do you mean? ~My meaning may be learned from Homer; he,
2393 3 | such feeding and living may be rightly compared by us
2394 3 | system of medicine, which may be said to educate diseases.
2395 3 | therefore our politic Asclepius may be supposed to have exhibited
2396 3 | crime, only in order that he may quickly infer the crimes
2397 3 | intelligence which there may be in him, having no taste
2398 3 | strings of an instrument) may be relaxed or drawn tighter
2399 3 | attempers them to the soul, may be rightly called the true
2400 3 | every age, in order that we may see whether they preserve
2401 3 | he replied. A resolution may go out of a man's mind either
2402 3 | everything that deceives may be said to enchant. ~Therefore,
2403 3 | in the furnace, that we may discover whether they are
2404 3 | citizens at home, that the one may not have the will, or the
2405 3 | before called guardians may be more properly designated
2406 3 | you, he said. ~How then may we devise one of those needful
2407 3 | spoke-just one royal lie which may deceive the rulers, if that
2408 3 | or artisan, just as there may be sons of artisans who
2409 3 | accomplishing this; but their sons may be made to believe in the
2410 3 | however, of the fiction, which may now fly abroad upon the
2411 3 | enemies, who, like wolves, may come down on the fold from
2412 3 | stronger than our citizens, may not grow to be too much
2413 3 | education, whatever that may be, will have the greatest
2414 3 | alone of all the citizens may not touch or handle silver
2415 3 | hand. For all which reasons may we not say that thus shall
2416 4 | guard? ~Yes, I said; and you may add that they are only fed,
2417 4 | they are, our guardians may very likely be the happiest
2418 4 | which occurs to me. ~What may that be? ~There seem to
2419 4 | Likely enough. ~Then we may assume that our athletes
2420 4 | permitted to have, but you may; do you therefore come and
2421 4 | sufficient for our purpose. ~What may that be? he asked. ~Education,
2422 4 | they will be afraid that he may be praising, not new songs,
2423 4 | said Adeimantus; and you may add my suffrage to Damon'
2424 4 | result is reached which may be good, and may be the
2425 4 | reached which may be good, and may be the reverse of good? ~
2426 4 | what would you say? there may also arise questions about
2427 4 | market and harbor dues which may be required, and in general
2428 4 | The rest of the citizens may be courageous or may be
2429 4 | citizens may be courageous or may be cowardly, but their courage
2430 4 | order that the white ground may take the purple hue in full
2431 4 | Most certainly. ~Then I may infer courage to be such
2432 4 | Why, yes, said I, you may, and if you add the words "
2433 4 | traces of the same notion may be found in language. ~No
2434 4 | as you will acknowledge, may be justly called master
2435 4 | true. These two, as you may perceive, have a place in
2436 4 | there be any city which may be described as master of
2437 4 | and master of itself, ours may claim such a designation? ~
2438 4 | Certainly, he replied. ~It may also be called temperate,
2439 4 | anything else. Most truly then may we deem temperance to be
2440 4 | you. ~And so, I said, we may consider three out of the
2441 4 | business in a certain way may be assumed to be justice.
2442 4 | other ground but that a man may neither take what is another'
2443 4 | greatest harm to the State, and may be most justly termed evil-doing? ~
2444 4 | two when rubbed together may possibly strike a light
2445 4 | so of the individual; we may assume that he has the same
2446 4 | found in the State; and he may be rightly described in
2447 4 | and a longer one. Still we may arrive at a solution not
2448 4 | of the previous inquiry. ~May we not be satisfied with
2449 4 | Northern nations; and the same may be said of the love of knowledge,
2450 4 | the love of money, which may, with equal truth, be attributed
2451 4 | at the same time (and he may say the same of anything
2452 4 | thinking. ~Yet, I said, that we may not be compelled to examine
2453 4 | object. ~But here a confusion may arise; and I should wish
2454 4 | mean to say that relatives may not be disparate, or that
2455 4 | disease? ~Clearly. ~Then we may fairly assume that they
2456 4 | which a man reasons, we may call the rational principle
2457 4 | flutterings of any other desire, may be termed the irrational
2458 4 | satisfactions? ~Yes, he said, we may fairly assume them to be
2459 4 | which the injured person may inflict upon him-these he
2460 4 | auxiliaries, counsellors, so may there not be in the individual
2461 4 | that is easily proved: We may observe even in young children
2462 4 | Excellent, I said, and you may see passion equally in brute
2463 4 | what you are saying. And we may once more appeal to the
2464 4 | principles within him, which may be compared to the higher,
2465 4 | falsehood? ~Most certainly not. ~May we say so, then? ~Let us
2466 4 | near the spot at which we may see the truth in the clearest
2467 4 | tower of speculation, a man may look down and see that virtue
2468 4 | been describing, and which may be said to have two names,
2469 5 | explained; for community may be of many kinds. Please,
2470 5 | resolution, said Glaucon, you may regard me as saying: Agreed. ~
2471 5 | said Thrasymachus, you may consider us all to be equally
2472 5 | practicability of what is said may be doubted; and looked at
2473 5 | guilt, and what holds at law may hold in argument. ~Then
2474 5 | do you mean? ~What I mean may be put into the form of
2475 5 | carried out, being unusual, may appear ridiculous. ~No doubt
2476 5 | some other miraculous help may save us? ~I suppose so,
2477 5 | who is in mind a physician may be said to have the same
2478 5 | the argument, and then we may hope to show him that there
2479 5 | me, I replied: Well, and may we not further say that
2480 5 | law about women, which we may say that we have now escaped;
2481 5 | that a good many doubts may be raised about both. ~You
2482 5 | our herd, as the guardians may be termed, breaking out
2483 5 | lots which the less worthy may draw on each occasion of
2484 5 | child; and other wet-nurses may be engaged if more are required.
2485 5 | what is the prime of life? May it not be defined as a period
2486 5 | at twenty years of age may begin to bear children to
2487 5 | them until forty; a man may begin at five-and-twenty,
2488 5 | that the new generation may be better and more useful
2489 5 | will, except that a man may not marry his daughter or
2490 5 | prevent any embryo which may come into being from seeing
2491 5 | will be affected as far as may be by the same pleasures
2492 5 | the artisan's child, they may look on at the work which
2493 5 | they are defeated, which may often happen in war, how
2494 5 | sake of which some risk may fairly be incurred. ~Yes,
2495 5 | well. ~True. ~Their parents may be supposed not to be blind
2496 5 | and what dangerous? ~That may be assumed. ~And they will
2497 5 | in the hour of need they may fly away and escape. ~What
2498 5 | himself to be taken prisoner may as well be made a present
2499 5 | love be youth or maiden, he may be more eager to win the
2500 5 | others, in order that he may have as many children as