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2501 10   |           which they had endured, he said that there was none like
2502 10   |           with exceeding joy. These, said Er, were the penalties and
2503 10   |             the fourth day after, he said that they came to a place
2504 10   |            this was what the prophet said at the time: "Even for the
2505 10   |           heavenly. Most curious, he said, was the spectacle-sad and
2506 10   |               and when he saw it, he said that he would have done


The Second Alcibiades
     Part
2507 Text |            at which we digressed. We said at first that we should
2508 Text |             what ought to be done or said?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
2509 Text |            oppose what has been well said. And I perceive how many
2510 Text |         should we not be right if we said that the state would be
2511 Text |            less a person than he who said of Margites that ‘he knew
2512 Text |           The Homeric word margos is said to be here employed in allusion
2513 Text |             summoned them to him and said: ‘Thus saith Ammon to the


The Seventh Letter
     Part
2514 Text |              really is. Therefore, I said, there will be no cessation
2515 Text |         other than the best. What he said, though perhaps it is rather
2516 Text |              What opportunities,” he said, “shall we wait for, greater
2517 Text |            nephews and relatives, he said, would be readily attracted
2518 Text |              note.~All this has been said with a view to counselling
2519 Text |             war in Sicily. Dionysios said that, when he had put the
2520 Text |           honour and glory. What was said probably pleased him, and
2521 Text |              immediately after it he said, “If in compliance with
2522 Text |              other matters.” This he said in these words; the rest
2523 Text |            Thus it came about that I said to Dionysios what I did
2524 Text |           long continued study, as I said at the beginning, the true
2525 Text |               Let us put an end,” he said, “to these constant quarrels
2526 Text |          vexed, but after reflection said I would let him know my
2527 Text |               on the following day I said to Dionysios, “I have decided
2528 Text |        interests.”~This was what was said and this was the agreement
2529 Text |            to his son. Therefore, he said, he would sell it, and when
2530 Text |             the son. This course, he said, was the most just. This
2531 Text |          longer with him; however, I said that we must wait for Dion’
2532 Text |             them, but what Theodotes said to Dionysios in my presence
2533 Text |            and remember. “Plato,” he said, “I am trying to convince
2534 Text |             beyond what has now been said.”~On the following day Eurybios
2535 Text |         greatly disturbed. Theodotes said, “Plato, you were present
2536 Text |       shedding silent tears, while I said: “These men are afraid that
2537 Text |           his most autocratic air he said, “To you I promised nothing
2538 Text |             great.” “By the gods,” I said, “you did promise that forbearance
2539 Text |           But Heracleides, as it was said, was just in time, by a
2540 Text |          others to your aid.” This I said, because I was disgusted


The Sophist
     Part
2541 Intro|              impossible. It has been said that Plato would have written
2542 Intro|           moments: he would not have said with Heracleitus, ‘All things
2543 Intro|              while the Megarians are said to have been Nominalists,
2544 Intro|            probably the same who are said in the Tenth Book of the
2545 Intro|           but not greater than if he said that he knew all things,
2546 Intro|        modern language they might be said to come first in the order
2547 Intro|             reported himself to have said of his own pupils: ‘There
2548 Intro|            Being. He would have been said by his opponents to have
2549 Intro|             that there is much to be said on both sides of a question.
2550 Intro|  mythological fancy, but when Thales said ‘All is water’ a new era
2551 Intro|            pen and ink, very wittily said to a niece of King Gorboduc, “
2552 Intro|              words they may be truly said to be the most inflated
2553 Intro|             hand.~Hegelianism may be said to be a transcendental defence
2554 Intro|           like. Yet it can hardly be said to have considered the forms
2555 Intro|            though he can be scarcely said to have mixed much in the
2556 Intro|        abstract. There is much to be said for his faith or conviction,
2557 Intro|             philosophy may be almost said to have been discovered
2558 Text |       especially after what you have said. For I certainly cannot
2559 Text |          there is nothing more to be said. Well then, I am to argue
2560 Text |              did not exist before is said to be a producer, and that
2561 Text |            brought into existence is said to be produced.~THEAETETUS:
2562 Text |             implied in what has been said.~STRANGER: And may not conquest
2563 Text |          animal hunting may be truly said to have two divisions, land-animal
2564 Text |             persuasion, there may be said to be two kinds?~THEAETETUS:
2565 Text |           not instruction be rightly said to be the remedy?~THEAETETUS:
2566 Text |       THEAETETUS: At any rate, he is said to do so.~STRANGER: And
2567 Text |            be a husbandman;— for you said that he is a maker of animals.~
2568 Text |           doubt, after what has been said, that he is to be located
2569 Text |            triumph.~THEAETETUS: Well said; and let us do as you propose.~
2570 Text |       surprised, after what has been said already, that you do not
2571 Text |             And a little while ago I said that not-being is unutterable,
2572 Text |              I not contradict what I said before?~THEAETETUS: Clearly.~
2573 Text |          There is nothing else to be said.~STRANGER: Again, false
2574 Text |           the thought of what I have said, and expect that you will
2575 Text |             own mythus or story;—one said that there were three principles,
2576 Text |        serious. Yet one thing may be said of them without offence—~
2577 Text |        STRANGER: And the same may be said of all the terms just mentioned.~
2578 Text |       distinguish: the soul would be said by them to have a body;
2579 Text |             definition?~STRANGER: We said that being was an active
2580 Text |             were asking of those who said that all was hot and cold?~
2581 Text |              And being itself may be said to be other than the other
2582 Text |             And the not-great may be said to exist, equally with the
2583 Text |           not-just—the one cannot be said to have any more existence
2584 Text |            STRANGER: The same may be said of other things; seeing
2585 Text |            that enquiry we have long said good-bye—it may or may not
2586 Text |            region the Sophist, as we said, made his escape, and, when
2587 Text |              to be truth in what was said about the Sophist at first,
2588 Text |               True.~STRANGER: And we said that we were uncertain in
2589 Text |           authority.~STRANGER: Nobly said, Theaetetus, and if I thought
2590 Text |          then, that things which are said to be made by nature are


The Statesman
     Part
2591 Intro|        adviser of a physician may be said to have medical science
2592 Intro|              dogs, who can hardly be said to herd, I think that we
2593 Intro|            that we are now saying is said for the sake of them. I
2594 Intro|              of them is the worst? I said at the beginning, that each
2595 Intro|   improbabilities of the tale may be said to rest. These are some
2596 Intro|              help. Thus Plato may be said to represent in a figure—(
2597 Intro|               but they can hardly be said to have found an answer.
2598 Intro|           virtue, who was fancifully said to be a king; but neither
2599 Intro|      regulated by law. Much has been said in modern times about the
2600 Intro|            style disappear or may be said without paradox in some
2601 Text |             that both of them may be said to be in some way related
2602 Text |             a country, may not he be said to have the knowledge which
2603 Text |              may therefore be justly said to share in theoretical
2604 Text |            of twice two feet, may be said to be the diameter of our
2605 Text |             of the truth of what was said in the enquiry about the
2606 Text |            pure knowledge had, as we said originally, a part which
2607 Text |     instruments. And the same may be said of tenders of animals in
2608 Text |       portent which is traditionally said to have occurred in the
2609 Text |         round. But as I have already said (and this is the only remaining
2610 Text |            gather from what has been said the nature of the phenomenon
2611 Text |               was the life which you said existed in the reign of
2612 Text |           our present life, which is said to be under Zeus, you know
2613 Text |             there were no more to be said.~YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly
2614 Text |            STRANGER: Then, now, as I said, let us make the correction
2615 Text |        lengthwise and breadthwise is said to be pulled out.~YOUNG
2616 Text |          nothing useless in what was said.~STRANGER: Very likely,
2617 Text |           into two parts, as we have said already, and to place in
2618 Text |             single kind. But we have said enough on this head, and
2619 Text |            that we are now saying is said for the sake of them. Moreover,
2620 Text |              and all that I have now said is only designed to prevent
2621 Text |            remembering what has been said, should praise or blame
2622 Text |            measurement, which, as we said, was to be borne in mind.~
2623 Text |            Shall we abide by what we said at first, or shall we retract
2624 Text |             If I am not mistaken, we said that royal power was a science?~
2625 Text |            are worse; the better are said to be well governed, but
2626 Text |         infer from what has now been said.~STRANGER: Or rather, my
2627 Text |             from what is going to be said.~YOUNG SOCRATES: And what
2628 Text |           can deny what has been now said.~STRANGER: Neither, if you
2629 Text |            What was it?~STRANGER: We said that no great number of
2630 Text |            imitations of this, as we said a little while ago, some
2631 Text |              YOUNG SOCRATES: Yes, we said so.~STRANGER: And any individual
2632 Text |            separated off, and, as we said, the others alone are left
2633 Text |           follow, from what has been said.~STRANGER: Then monarchy,
2634 Text |            in which these things are said to be done.~STRANGER: In
2635 Text |         parts of virtue are commonly said to be friendly to one another.~
2636 Text |              the opposite of what we said of the other?~YOUNG SOCRATES:
2637 Text |           SOCRATES: That is commonly said.~STRANGER: But those who
2638 Text |              It was of these bonds I said that there would be no difficulty


The Symposium
     Part
2639 Intro|            dreamed of; or, as Goethe said of one of his own writings,
2640 Intro|           Let us cut them in two, he said; then they will only have
2641 Intro|           will now initiate you, she said, into the greater mysteries;
2642 Intro|               The speeches have been said to follow each other in
2643 Text |           playfully in the distance, said: Apollodorus, O thou Phalerian (
2644 Text |            as I was bid; and then he said, I was looking for you,
2645 Text |              very indistinct, but he said that you knew, and I wish
2646 Text |        friend? And first tell me, he said, were you present at this
2647 Text |           Your informant, Glaucon, I said, must have been very indistinct
2648 Text |            thought so.~Impossible: I said. Are you ignorant that for
2649 Text |              a philosopher.~Well, he said, jesting apart, tell me
2650 Text |            been a long while ago, he said; and who told you—did Socrates?~
2651 Text |             he confirmed them. Then, said Glaucon, let us have the
2652 Text |            love; and therefore, as I said at first, I am not ill-prepared
2653 Text |              and the reason why I am said to be mad, and out of my
2654 Text |             words of Aristodemus:~He said that he met Socrates fresh
2655 Text |             replied.~Follow then, he said, and let us demolish the
2656 Text |             I rather fear, Socrates, said Aristodemus, lest this may
2657 Text |         begin. Welcome, Aristodemus, said Agathon, as soon as he appeared—
2658 Text |          were quite right in coming, said Agathon; but where is he
2659 Text |           just now, as I entered, he said, and I cannot think what
2660 Text |            Go and look for him, boy, said Agathon, and bring him in;
2661 Text |          house. ‘There he is fixed,’ said he, ‘and when I call to
2662 Text |              not stir.’~How strange, said Agathon; then you must call
2663 Text |          calling him.~Let him alone, said my informant; he has a way
2664 Text |          think so, I will leave him, said Agathon. And then, turning
2665 Text |           that ‘I may touch you,’ he said, ‘and have the benefit of
2666 Text |             you sought.’~How I wish, said Socrates, taking his place
2667 Text |           You are mocking, Socrates, said Agathon, and ere long you
2668 Text |             drinking, when Pausanias said, And now, my friends, how
2669 Text |           easiest?~I entirely agree, said Aristophanes, that we should,
2670 Text |            think that you are right, said Eryximachus, the son of
2671 Text |          hard?~I am not equal to it, said Agathon.~Then, said Eryximachus,
2672 Text |              it, said Agathon.~Then, said Eryximachus, the weak heads
2673 Text |          much as they pleased.~Then, said Eryximachus, as you are
2674 Text |           follows:—~I will begin, he said, after the manner of Melanippe
2675 Text |            against you, Eryximachus, said Socrates. How can I oppose
2676 Text |           not recollect all that was said, nor do I recollect all
2677 Text |              what the chief speakers said.~Phaedrus began by affirming
2678 Text |              Pausanias. Phaedrus, he said, the argument has not been
2679 Text |              one Love, then what you said would be well enough; but
2680 Text |            to speak; and Aristodemus said that the turn of Aristophanes
2681 Text |           below him. Eryximachus, he said, you ought either to stop
2682 Text |            left off.~I will do both, said Eryximachus: I will speak
2683 Text |            will do as you prescribe, said Aristophanes, and now get
2684 Text |        several things which might be said in praise of Love, but this
2685 Text |            rid of the hiccough.~Yes, said Aristophanes, who followed,
2686 Text |             I was cured.~Eryximachus said: Beware, friend Aristophanes,
2687 Text |             in peace.~You are right, said Aristophanes, laughing.
2688 Text |             Eryximachus. Mankind, he said, judging by their neglect
2689 Text |            Zeus discovered a way. He said: ‘Methinks I have a plan
2690 Text |              saw their perplexity he said: ‘Do you desire to be wholly
2691 Text |             not going to attack you, said Eryximachus, for I thought
2692 Text |            of things which have been said already. But, for all that,
2693 Text |              without hopes.~Socrates said: You played your part well,
2694 Text |             spell over me, Socrates, said Agathon, in the hope that
2695 Text |              Do you think, Socrates, said Agathon, that my head is
2696 Text |              him—would you not?~Yes, said Agathon.~But before the
2697 Text |           talk.~Very good, Phaedrus, said Agathon; I see no reason
2698 Text |       proverb says. Many things were said by Phaedrus about Love in
2699 Text |             beauty of the god I have said enough; and yet there remains
2700 Text |             of poetry in which he is said to be the god who~‘Gives
2701 Text |           done speaking, Aristodemus said that there was a general
2702 Text |              looking at Eryximachus, said: Tell me, son of Acumenus,
2703 Text |            not a true prophet when I said that Agathon would make
2704 Text |         strait.~Why, my dear friend, said Socrates, must not I or
2705 Text |          nature of the praise when I said that I would take my turn,
2706 Text |        agreeable to you?~Aristodemus said that Phaedrus and the company
2707 Text |              I grant the permission, said Phaedrus: put your questions.
2708 Text |           would be right.~Very true, said Agathon.~And you would say
2709 Text |           brother or sister?~Yes, he said.~And now, said Socrates,
2710 Text |               Yes, he said.~And now, said Socrates, I will ask about
2711 Text |             think?~I agree with you, said Agathon.~Very good. Would
2712 Text |               replied Agathon.~Then, said Socrates, he desires that
2713 Text |           has not got:~Very true, he said.~Then he and every one who
2714 Text |           desire seek?~Very true, he said.~Then now, said Socrates,
2715 Text |             true, he said.~Then now, said Socrates, let us recapitulate
2716 Text |            Remember further what you said in your speech, or if you
2717 Text |      remember I will remind you: you said that the love of the beautiful
2718 Text |         something of that kind?~Yes, said Agathon.~Yes, my friend,
2719 Text |          wants and has not?~True, he said.~Then Love wants and has
2720 Text |         cannot refute you, Socrates, said Agathon:—Let us assume that
2721 Text |         shall repeat to you what she said to me, beginning with the
2722 Text |           then of his works. First I said to her in nearly the same
2723 Text |             do you mean, Diotima,’ I said, ‘is love then evil and
2724 Text |            not fair?’ ‘Certainly,’ I said. ‘And is that which is not
2725 Text |             And what may that be?’ I said. ‘Right opinion,’ she replied; ‘
2726 Text |             Do not then insist,’ she said, ‘that what is not fair
2727 Text |             between them.’ ‘Well,’ I said, ‘Love is surely admitted
2728 Text |              And how, Socrates,’ she said with a smile, ‘can Love
2729 Text |                 And who are they?’ I said. ‘You and I are two of them,’
2730 Text |        replied. ‘How can that be?’ I said. ‘It is quite intelligible,’
2731 Text |           the mortal.’ ‘And what,’ I said, ‘is his power?’ ‘He interprets,’
2732 Text |          them is Love.’ ‘And who,’ I said, ‘was his father, and who
2733 Text |             mother?’ ‘The tale,’ she said, ‘will take time; nevertheless
2734 Text |            But who then, Diotima,’ I said, ‘are the lovers of wisdom,
2735 Text |              as I have described.’~I said, ‘O thou stranger woman,
2736 Text |            may be his.’ ‘Still,’ she said, ‘the answer suggests a
2737 Text |           answer ready.’ ‘Then,’ she said, ‘let me put the word “good”
2738 Text |           possession of the good,’ I said. ‘And what does he gain
2739 Text |           that question.’ ‘Yes,’ she said, ‘the happy are made happy
2740 Text |           final.’ ‘You are right.’ I said. ‘And is this wish and this
2741 Text |           are not all men, Socrates, said to love, but only some of
2742 Text |        things.’ ‘I myself wonder,’ I said, ‘why this is.’ ‘There is
2743 Text |             Give an illustration,’ I said. She answered me as follows: ‘
2744 Text |             Very true.’ ‘Still,’ she said, ‘you know that they are
2745 Text |        called poets.’ ‘Very true,’ I said. ‘And the same holds of
2746 Text |             form only—they alone are said to love, or to be lovers.’ ‘
2747 Text |             is nothing.’ ‘Then,’ she said, ‘the simple truth is, that
2748 Text |             love the good.’ ‘Yes,’ I said. ‘To which must be added
2749 Text |         added too.’ ‘Then love,’ she said, ‘may be described generally
2750 Text |            you tell me further,’ she said, ‘what is the manner of
2751 Text |            very matter.’ ‘Well,’ she said, ‘I will teach you:—The
2752 Text |            do not understand you,’ I said; ‘the oracle requires an
2753 Text |           birth in beauty.’ ‘Yes,’ I said. ‘Yes, indeed,’ she replied. ‘
2754 Text |             that I did not know. She said to me: ‘And do you expect
2755 Text |             love.’ ‘Marvel not,’ she said, ‘if you believe that love
2756 Text |             in which every animal is said to have life and identity,
2757 Text |         astonished at her words, and said: ‘Is this really true, O
2758 Text |         would be immortal? Nay,’ she said, ‘I am persuaded that all
2759 Text |             This, my dear Socrates,’ said the stranger of Mantineia, ‘
2760 Text |             are friends of ours,’ he said, ‘invite them in, but if
2761 Text |            them. ‘Hail, friends,’ he said, appearing at the door crowned
2762 Text |           him. Take off his sandals, said Agathon, and let him make
2763 Text |         third partner in our revels? said Alcibiades, turning round
2764 Text |            Socrates. By Heracles, he said, what is this? here is Socrates
2765 Text |       Socrates turned to Agathon and said: I must ask you to protect
2766 Text |   reconciliation between you and me, said Alcibiades; but for the
2767 Text |              again reclined.~Then he said: You seem, my friends, to
2768 Text |               Agathon, or rather, he said, addressing the attendant,
2769 Text |       Socrates. Observe, my friends, said Alcibiades, that this ingenious
2770 Text |          filled for him.~Eryximachus said: What is this, Alcibiades?
2771 Text |        worthy sire!~The same to you, said Eryximachus; but what shall
2772 Text |             do?~That I leave to you, said Alcibiades.~‘The wise physician
2773 Text |              What do you want?~Well, said Eryximachus, before you
2774 Text |           That is good, Eryximachus, said Alcibiades; and yet the
2775 Text |             hands off me.~For shame, said Socrates.~Hold your tongue,
2776 Text |          Socrates.~Hold your tongue, said Alcibiades, for by Poseidon,
2777 Text |              the company.~Well then, said Eryximachus, if you like
2778 Text |              you think, Eryximachus? said Alcibiades: shall I attack
2779 Text |             all?~What are you about? said Socrates; are you going
2780 Text |           Then I will begin at once, said Alcibiades, and if I say
2781 Text |              gave him a shake, and I said: ‘Socrates, are you asleep?’ ‘
2782 Text |            are you asleep?’ ‘No,’ he said. ‘Do you know what I am
2783 Text |              are you meditating?’ he said. ‘I think,’ I replied, ‘
2784 Text |            get old.’ Hearing this, I said: ‘I have told you my purpose,
2785 Text |              me.’ ‘That is good,’ he said; ‘at some other time then
2786 Text |        Pericles; and the same may be said of other famous men, but
2787 Text |           You are sober, Alcibiades, said Socrates, or you would never
2788 Text |             I believe you are right, said Agathon, and I am disposed
2789 Text |            the couch below me.~Alas, said Alcibiades, how I am fooled
2790 Text |           between us.~Certainly not, said Socrates, as you praised
2791 Text |             Socrates.~The usual way, said Alcibiades; where Socrates
2792 Text |      quantities of wine. Aristodemus said that Eryximachus, Phaedrus,


Theaetetus
     Part
2793 Intro|            this: the conversation is said to have taken place when
2794 Intro|    engagement in which Theaetetus is said to have fallen or to have
2795 Intro|             and then of Plato, he is said to have written the first
2796 Intro|           how like all that Socrates said! And could you repeat the
2797 Intro|            the interlocutory words, “said I,” “said he”; and that
2798 Intro|      interlocutory words, “said I,” “said he”; and that Theaetetus,
2799 Intro|              in which all things are said to be relative; nothing
2800 Intro|         Tragedy, at their head, have said the same; the latter has
2801 Intro|            tumbling into a well, and said of him, that he was so eager
2802 Intro|            by herself with being, is said to have opinion—shall we
2803 Intro|              he knows both can he be said to have knowledge as well
2804 Intro|             eye only cannot be truly said both to see and not to see;
2805 Intro|           the age of Plato. He never said that ‘change means every
2806 Intro|              writings. He might have said, ‘The excellent Socrates
2807 Intro|         responsible for what I never said, nor will I admit that my
2808 Intro|           have done better if he had said that true opinion was a
2809 Intro|           direction, when Protagoras said that ‘Man is the measure
2810 Intro|          strictly, arithmetic may be said to be equally applicable
2811 Intro|        special sense, it may also be said that there is no science
2812 Intro|              Space or place has been said by Kant to be the form of
2813 Intro|         exaggerated. It is sometimes said to assure us of our freedom;
2814 Text |         remembered what Socrates had said of him, and thought how
2815 Text |        admiration of his genius, and said that he would most certainly
2816 Text |           the interlocutory words ‘I said,’ ‘I remarked,’ which he
2817 Text |             his hands a lyre, and he said that they were tuned alike,
2818 Text |         should we ask whether he who said so was or was not a musician?~
2819 Text |              the clay, he might have said simply, that clay is moistened
2820 Text |          small a matter, as just now said? Is it not one which would
2821 Text |      SOCRATES: The reason of this is said to be that Artemis—the goddess
2822 Text |        perception.~SOCRATES: Bravely said, boy; that is the way in
2823 Text |              in which all things are said to be relative; you cannot
2824 Text |             into your nature when he said that you were a philosopher,
2825 Text |            not a bad genealogist who said that Iris (the messenger
2826 Text |           these considerations, as I said at first, there arises a
2827 Text |              And may not the same be said of madness and other disorders?
2828 Text |              same thing, and the boy said No, because he was frightened,
2829 Text |       Remember what has been already said,—that to the sick man his
2830 Text |       recommend you, therefore, as I said before, not to encourage
2831 Text |             medium of discourse, and said that the boy’s timidity
2832 Text |              an argument; and when I said just now that you would
2833 Text |              of this, some who as he said were the wise excelled others.~
2834 Text |             are about; for you truly said that we belong to a brotherhood
2835 Text |           witty Thracian handmaid is said to have made about Thales,
2836 Text |         looking up at the stars. She said, that he was so eager to
2837 Text |              as well as public, as I said at first, when he appears
2838 Text |             were really good;—he who said so would be playing with
2839 Text |            the reason of what he has said, you will be hit by some
2840 Text |             For I must repeat what I said before, that neither the
2841 Text |            thoughts, he may be truly said to have false opinion.~THEAETETUS:
2842 Text |            not that, Socrates, nobly said?~SOCRATES: Nobly! yes; but
2843 Text |         think amiss—and such men are said to be deceived in their
2844 Text |            he knows; but this, as we said, was impossible, and afforded
2845 Text |              of knowledge, he may be said to have learned or discovered
2846 Text |          transmitting them he may be said to teach them, and when
2847 Text |           aforesaid aviary he may be said to know them.~THEAETETUS:
2848 Text |          images, and which he may be said to know while he possesses
2849 Text |            THEAETETUS: Knowledge was said by us to be true opinion;
2850 Text |          into the river, Theaetetus, said ‘The experiment will show;’
2851 Text |           but I had forgotten it. He said that true opinion, combined
2852 Text |           would repeat to me what he said, and then I shall know whether
2853 Text |           one point in what has been said which does not quite satisfy
2854 Text |            letters may be most truly said to be undefined; for even
2855 Text |            manifests his thought, is said to explain himself.~SOCRATES:
2856 Text |             one of which must, as we said, be adopted by him who maintains
2857 Text |         difference, for this, as the said argument maintains, is adding


Timaeus
     Part
2858 Intro|       intelligence and knowledge are said to be perfected by the circle
2859 Intro|              up at hearing this, and said: Had Solon only had the
2860 Intro|            the subject of the poem?’ said the person who made the
2861 Intro|            of the actors. ‘Tell us,’ said the other, ‘the whole story,
2862 Intro|             Thereupon an aged priest said to him: ‘O Solon, Solon,
2863 Intro|           are welcome to hear them,’ said the priest, ‘both for your
2864 Intro|        children of the gods, as they said; for surely they must have
2865 Intro|           perpetual flux, whence, he said, would arise, first, sensation;
2866 Intro|            dreamy manner, and yet is said to be necessary, for we
2867 Intro|             ending to our tale. As I said at first, all things were
2868 Intro|          something should be briefly said about other animals: first
2869 Intro|               For they can hardly be said to have generalized at all.
2870 Intro|      generalized at all. They may be said more truly to have cleared
2871 Intro|              He would, perhaps, have said that ‘the first things are
2872 Intro|              other; for it cannot be said or imagined not to be.’
2873 Intro|      revolving in his mind.~Space is said by Plato to be the ‘containing
2874 Intro|              when empty. Hence it is said to be discerned by a kind
2875 Intro|              of the year, God may be said to have ‘used in the delineation
2876 Intro|         Hippolyt. Ref. Haer. I.) had said, would be, as he satirically
2877 Intro|           same—he might perhaps have said that to ‘the spectator of
2878 Intro|            The motion of the same is said to be undivided, whereas
2879 Intro|             of the world, and is not said to be in motion. In the
2880 Intro|              its axis, he would have said so in distinct words, and
2881 Intro|             are moving, may be truly said to act, equally with them. (
2882 Intro|              is nearly as much to be said on the one side of the question
2883 Intro|           reason. Though the soul is said by him to be prior to the
2884 Intro|      respiration the external net is said to find a way in and out
2885 Intro|              and below in space, and said that all things were the
2886 Intro|             us the origin. He may be said, in the language of modern
2887 Intro|            error. For we too hastily said that Plato in the Timaeus
2888 Intro|              witness to the story is said to be Crantor, a Stoic philosopher
2889 Intro|             navigators, may be truly said to have contributed indirectly
2890 Text |               Socrates; and what you said of it was very much to our
2891 Text |              to be our warriors, and said that they were to be guardians
2892 Text |       TIMAEUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: We said, if I am not mistaken, that
2893 Text |               TIMAEUS: That was also said.~SOCRATES: Neither did we
2894 Text |             could the best breed, we said that the chief magistrates,
2895 Text |              And you remember how we said that the children of the
2896 Text |              it was just as you have said.~SOCRATES: I should like,
2897 Text |            us. There were of old, he said, great and marvellous actions
2898 Text |            of telling it, was, as he said, nearly ninety years of
2899 Text |             so or to please Critias, said that in his judgment Solon
2900 Text |    brightened up at hearing this and said, smiling: Yes, Amynander,
2901 Text |             the tale about, Critias? said Amynander.~About the greatest
2902 Text |            come down to us.~Tell us, said the other, the whole story,
2903 Text |             was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes
2904 Text |           governed of all cities, is said to have performed the noblest
2905 Text |              hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your
2906 Text |            of it. Truly, as is often said, the lessons of our childhood
2907 Text |       eternal; but if what cannot be said without blasphemy is true,
2908 Text |         likeness would be more truly said to resemble not them, but
2909 Text |           hence they can scarcely be said to know that their wanderings,
2910 Text |             and now let what we have said about the nature of the
2911 Text |          Here, and all those who are said to be their brethren, and
2912 Text |             possess, enough has been said. I will therefore now proceed
2913 Text |             task. Remembering what I said at first about probability,
2914 Text |             lastly, every man may be said to share in true opinion,
2915 Text |            what was before obscurely said: there was an error in imagining
2916 Text |          follows. Something has been said of this matter already,
2917 Text |         something more remains to be said, which is, that motion never
2918 Text |             body is called heavy and said to tend downwards, and the
2919 Text |             body is called light and said to tend upwards. And we
2920 Text |         human body; whereas what was said above relates mainly to
2921 Text |              the sight, which, as we said above, is a body naturally
2922 Text |     agitation and effervescence, are said to boil or ferment—of all
2923 Text |          beginning of our tale.~As I said at first, when all things
2924 Text |            he remembers to have been said, whether in a dream or when
2925 Text |            assert that what has been said by us is probable, and will
2926 Text |         third kind of soul, which is said to be seated between the
2927 Text |             body, as we have already said when speaking of the universe,