(...) Parmenides
     Part
1001 Text |              affected in the same way.~True.~And inasmuch as they all
1002 Text |             unlike.~That appears to be true.~Then the others are both
1003 Text |            themselves and one another?~True.~And they are the same and
1004 Text |              the affections aforesaid?~True.~1.bb. Suppose, now, that
1005 Text |              this is or is not equally true of the others.~By all means.~
1006 Text |          others are never in the same?~True.~Then they are separated
1007 Text |             many, nor whole, nor part.~True.~Then the others neither
1008 Text |          entirely deprived of the one?~True.~Then the others are neither
1009 Text |                shown to be impossible.~True.~Therefore they are neither
1010 Text |                devoid of the one.~Very true.~Therefore if one is, the
1011 Text |              not,’ would not be known.~True.~Secondly, the others differ
1012 Text |          relations just now mentioned.~True.~Being, then, cannot be
1013 Text |              it?~That would seem to be true.~And if unlikeness to other
1014 Text |             are not equal are unequal?~True.~And they are unequal to
1015 Text |                are unequal to it?~Very true.~And inequality implies
1016 Text |          smallness?~That appears to be true.~And greatness and smallness
1017 Text |          smallness always stand apart?~True.~Then there is always something
1018 Text |                would at once be.~Quite true.~Then the one which is not,
1019 Text |          perfection of not-being.~Most true.~Since then what is partakes
1020 Text |          not-being?~That appears to be true.~But surely if it is nowhere
1021 Text |                 but of something else?~True.~But if the one neither
1022 Text |               motion?~That seems to be true.~But if it be in motion
1023 Text |           being nor be destroyed?~Very true.~And the one that is not,
1024 Text |              becomes nor is destroyed?~True.~2.b. And now, let us go
1025 Text |               assume being in any way?~True.~Then the one that is not,
1026 Text |               become and be destroyed?~True.~But if it be not altered
1027 Text |               be now speaking of them.~True.~But to speak of the others
1028 Text |             different’ are synonymous?~True.~Other means other than
1029 Text |                are other than nothing.~True.~And they are each other
1030 Text |             which it is split up?~Very true.~And in such particles the
1031 Text |              being one, if one is not?~True.~And it would seem that
1032 Text |             since the one is not.~Very true.~And so all being, whatever
1033 Text |              the same state and alike?~True.~But when you approach them,
1034 Text |                and unlike, themselves?~True.~And so must the particles
1035 Text |             not and the many are?~Most true.~2.bb. Once more, let us
1036 Text |       therefore they will not be many.~True.~If there be no one in the
1037 Text |             which is not has no parts.~True.~Nor is there an opinion
1038 Text |               of these, if one is not?~True.~Then may we not sum up
1039 Text |             and appear not to be.~Most true.~THE END~     >


Phaedo
     Part
1040 Intro|                 instead of telling the true reason—that he is here because
1041 Intro|               of opposites is not only true of the opposites themselves,
1042 Intro|               thick lower air; but the true earth is above, and is in
1043 Intro|              then we should behold the true earth and the true heaven
1044 Intro|          behold the true earth and the true heaven and the true stars.
1045 Intro|                the true heaven and the true stars. Our earth is everywhere
1046 Intro|               something of the kind is true. He who has sought after
1047 Intro|            most of its heroes, but the true man is well aware that far
1048 Intro|               a mere illusion, and the true self neither soul nor body,
1049 Intro|           vindictively in another. The true argument from analogy is
1050 Intro|               say that God is just and true and loving, the author of
1051 Intro|             Him. It is a great part of true religion not to pretend
1052 Intro|               something of the kind is true.’ As in other passages (
1053 Intro|               life, that he has been a true mystic and not a mere retainer
1054 Intro|               details of his narrative true, but that something of the
1055 Intro|               something of the kind is true, we return from speculation
1056 Text |              the hand of another.~Very true, said Cebes, laughing gently
1057 Text |               reconcile this seemingly true belief that God is our guardian
1058 Text |           explain. For I deem that the true votary of philosophy is
1059 Text |                of that death which the true philosopher deserves, or
1060 Text |             say?~I should say that the true philosopher would despise
1061 Text |                turn to the soul.~Quite true.~In matters of this sort
1062 Text |            communion of the body.~Very true.~Whereas, Simmias, the rest
1063 Text |             good as dead.~That is also true.~What again shall we say
1064 Text |             she is obviously deceived.~True.~Then must not true existence
1065 Text |          deceived.~True.~Then must not true existence be revealed to
1066 Text |          desire, but is aspiring after true being?~Certainly.~And in
1067 Text |                and by herself?~That is true.~Well, but there is another
1068 Text |        strength, and of the essence or true nature of everything. Has
1069 Text |                attain the knowledge of true being?~What you say has
1070 Text |          impede us in the search after true being: it fills us full
1071 Text |              words, Simmias, which the true lovers of knowledge cannot
1072 Text |                O my friend, if this is true, there is great reason to
1073 Text |               chains of the body?~Very true, he said.~And this separation
1074 Text |              be sure, he said.~And the true philosophers, and they only,
1075 Text |                especial study?~That is true.~And, as I was saying at
1076 Text |            upon them.~Clearly.~And the true philosophers, Simmias, are
1077 Text |             them. And will he who is a true lover of wisdom, and is
1078 Text |                O my friend, if he be a true philosopher. For he will
1079 Text |             her purity. And if this be true, he would be very absurd,
1080 Text |          general as a great evil.~Very true, he said.~And do not courageous
1081 Text |           greater evils?~That is quite true.~Then all but the philosophers
1082 Text |           surely a strange thing.~Very true.~And are not the temperate
1083 Text |              Simmias, is there not one true coin for which all things
1084 Text |                justice. And is not all true virtue the companion of
1085 Text |               truth in her; but in the true exchange there is a purging
1086 Text |              interpret the words, ‘the true philosophers.’ In the number
1087 Text |         Socrates, that what you say is true. But surely it requires
1088 Text |             any force or intelligence.~True, Cebes, said Socrates; and
1089 Text |            from the dead. Now if it be true that the living come from
1090 Text |               have to be adduced.~Very true, replied Cebes.~Then let
1091 Text |              greater after being less.~True.~And that which becomes
1092 Text |          swifter from the slower.~Very true.~And the worse is from the
1093 Text |                 Of course.~And is this true of all opposites? and are
1094 Text |                the other of them?~Very true, he replied.~Well, and is
1095 Text |                the opposite of waking?~True, he said.~And what is it?~
1096 Text |               the world below?~That is true.~And one of the two processes
1097 Text |             world of the living?~Quite true.~Then here is a new way
1098 Text |               the living; and this, if true, affords a most certain
1099 Text |        argument seems to be absolutely true.~Yes, he said, Cebes, it
1100 Text |                simply recollection, if true, also necessarily implies
1101 Text |              right way, he will give a true answer of himself, but how
1102 Text |               some previous time.~Very true.~And what is the nature
1103 Text |                the knowledge of a man?~True.~And yet what is the feeling
1104 Text |             time and inattention.~Very true, he said.~Well; and may
1105 Text |              be led to remember Cebes?~True.~Or you may also be led
1106 Text |             which is recollected?~Very true, he said.~And shall we proceed
1107 Text |               attained that idea?~Very true, he said.~Which might be
1108 Text |              act of recollection?~Very true.~But what would you say
1109 Text |             but fall short of it?~Very true.~And we recognize also that
1110 Text |               we were born, I suppose?~True.~And if we acquired this
1111 Text |             losing of knowledge?~Quite true, Socrates.~But if the knowledge
1112 Text |              termed recollection?~Very true.~So much is clear—that when
1113 Text |       recollection.~Yes, that is quite true, Socrates.~And which alternative,
1114 Text |               and come to an end?~Very true, Simmias, said Cebes; about
1115 Text |               to these questions.~Very true, he said.~Now the compound
1116 Text |                we define as essence or true existence—whether essence
1117 Text |             are not seen?~That is very true, he said.~Well, then, added
1118 Text |               she touches change?~Very true.~But when returning into
1119 Text |                is subject and servant?~True.~And which does the soul
1120 Text |                It cannot.~But if it be true, then is not the body liable
1121 Text |            passing to the place of the true Hades, which like her is
1122 Text |              means that she has been a true disciple of philosophy;
1123 Text |            compare Apol.). Is not this true, Cebes?~Yes, said Cebes,
1124 Text |          wrought into her nature.~Very true.~And this corporeal element,
1125 Text |             Simmias and Cebes, why the true votaries of philosophy abstain
1126 Text |         invisible. And the soul of the true philosopher thinks that
1127 Text |              the things of sight.~Very true.~And is not this the state
1128 Text |                and believes that to be true which the body affirms to
1129 Text |           which the body affirms to be true; and from agreeing with
1130 Text |              and pure and simple.~Most true, Socrates, answered Cebes.~
1131 Text |           Cebes, is the reason why the true lovers of knowledge are
1132 Text |    contemplation of her, beholding the true and divine (which is not
1133 Text |              do not believe this to be true of them any more than of
1134 Text |               and think him altogether true and sound and faithful,
1135 Text |              would have taught him the true state of the case, that
1136 Text |             believes an argument to be true which he afterwards imagines
1137 Text |                and flow.~That is quite true, I said.~Yes, Phaedo, he
1138 Text |            other which at first seemed true and then turned out to be
1139 Text |           hearers that what he says is true, I am rather seeking to
1140 Text |         argument. For if what I say is true, then I do well to be persuaded
1141 Text |            truly and fully harmonized.~True.~But does the soul admit
1142 Text |            completely a harmony?~Quite true.~And that which is not more
1143 Text |               more or less harmonized?~True.~And that which is not more
1144 Text |              said.~And can all this be true, think you? he said; for
1145 Text |                a harmony?~It cannot be true.~Once more, he said, what
1146 Text |               things of the body.~Very true.~But we have already acknowledged
1147 Text |              and contradict ourselves.~True, he said.~Thus much, said
1148 Text |               round; and whichever was true, he would proceed to explain
1149 Text |              forgetting to mention the true cause, which is, that the
1150 Text |                in the contemplation of true existence, I ought to be
1151 Text |                 and then I affirmed as true whatever seemed to agree
1152 Text |        smallness the less become less?~True.~Then if a person were to
1153 Text |               in all these cases.~Very true, he said.~Again, would you
1154 Text |              say.~What you say is most true, said Simmias and Cebes,
1155 Text |              the greatness of Simmias?~True.~And if Phaedo exceeds him
1156 Text |         comparatively smaller?~That is true.~And therefore Simmias is
1157 Text |               that what I am saying is true.~Simmias assented.~I speak
1158 Text |          either retire or perish?~Very true, he replied.~And the fire
1159 Text |                 fire and cold.~That is true, he said.~And in some cases
1160 Text |               by the name of odd?~Very true.~But is this the only thing
1161 Text |            while remaining three?~Very true, said Cebes.~And yet, he
1162 Text |            approach of opposites.~Very true, he said.~Suppose, he said,
1163 Text |                must also be odd.~Quite true.~And on this oddness, of
1164 Text |               odd is opposed the even?~True.~Then the idea of the even
1165 Text |           number three is uneven?~Very true.~To return then to my distinction
1166 Text |        remained and admitted the heat?~True, he said.~Again, if the
1167 Text |              and any other thing.~Very true.~And the same may be said
1168 Text |               all men, he said—that is true; and what is more, gods,
1169 Text |              preserved safe and sound?~True.~Then, Cebes, beyond question,
1170 Text |              any further enquiry.~Very true.~But then, O my friends,
1171 Text |             lower air collect. But the true earth is pure and situated
1172 Text |             world was the place of the true heaven and the true light
1173 Text |                the true heaven and the true light and the true earth.
1174 Text |             and the true light and the true earth. For our earth, and
1175 Text |                her mansions is exactly true. But I do say that, inasmuch
1176 Text |               something of the kind is true. The venture is a glorious


Phaedrus
     Part
1177 Intro|              dwelling in the region of true knowledge. The divine mind
1178 Intro|         sensual pleasures. Whereas the true mystic, who has seen the
1179 Intro|               a Spartan proverb says, ‘true art is truth’; whereas rhetoric
1180 Intro|               he learnt of Anaxagoras. True rhetoric is like medicine,
1181 Intro|                proceed to consider the true use of writing. There is
1182 Intro|                division; fourthly, the true rhetoric, which is based
1183 Intro|          illustration of the higher or true rhetoric. This higher rhetoric
1184 Intro|                theme of discourse. The true knowledge of things in heaven
1185 Intro|                and in another; and the true order of speech or writing
1186 Intro|              they masters of the art.’ True to his character, he must,
1187 Intro|              me not to the marriage of true minds Admit impediments.
1188 Intro|                edge of doom.’~But this true love of the mind cannot
1189 Intro|               after many struggles the true love was found: how the
1190 Intro|          characterizes it as a ‘partly true and tolerably credible mythus,’
1191 Intro|            pretext that to realize the true nature of the soul would
1192 Intro|          temperance, and a follower of true glory,’ though similar,
1193 Intro|          aspiration only, and that the true ideal is not to be found
1194 Intro|                first principles and of true ideas? We avowedly follow
1195 Intro|             has not as yet learned the true nature of religion.’ The ‘
1196 Intro|     enthusiastic love of the good, the true, the one, the sense of the
1197 Intro|                considered by them. The true rules of composition, which
1198 Intro|           sciences never arrive at any true knowledge or make any real
1199 Intro|                given, which if not the true causes, are at least to
1200 Intro|        political freedom, which is the true atmosphere of public speaking,
1201 Intro|          poetry; and where there is no true poetry, neither can there
1202 Text |             best can.~SOCRATES: A very true remark, that of yours.~PHAEDRUS:
1203 Text |              the gates.~SOCRATES: Very true, my good friend; and I hope
1204 Text |           please his beloved;—that, if true, is only a proof that he
1205 Text |          friend? reflect:—if this were true, we should set small value
1206 Text |           theme.~SOCRATES: You will be true to your nature in that,
1207 Text |               the soul. But if this be true, must not the soul be the
1208 Text |                of the soul, though her true form be ever a theme of
1209 Text |              the very being with which true knowledge is concerned;
1210 Text |                and beholding the other true existences in like manner,
1211 Text |              with difficulty beholding true being; while another only
1212 Text |           attained to the mysteries of true being, go away, and feed
1213 Text |             philosopher, guileless and true, or the soul of a lover,
1214 Text |                her head up towards the true being. And therefore the
1215 Text |                the recollection of the true beauty; he would like to
1216 Text |               the way of nature beheld true being; this was the condition
1217 Text |             this world to the sight of true beauty in the other; he
1218 Text |            speak into the mysteries of true love, if he be captured
1219 Text |        temperance, and the follower of true glory; he needs no touch
1220 Text |               memory is carried to the true beauty, whom he beholds
1221 Text |                god, has received every true and loyal service from his
1222 Text |               of authorship?~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if the law
1223 Text |               mourning.~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: So far are they
1224 Text |               be a god?~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then do you think
1225 Text |          orator has nothing to do with true justice, but only with that
1226 Text |              dismissed.~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Let us put the
1227 Text |           himself as ignorant of their true nature as the city on which
1228 Text |               herself.~SOCRATES: Quite true; if only the other arguments
1229 Text |                good?~PHAEDRUS: That is true.~SOCRATES: Have we not heard
1230 Text |              in motion?~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: The art of disputation,
1231 Text |               if he is ignorant of the true nature of any subject, how
1232 Text |              others?~PHAEDRUS: That is true.~SOCRATES: In which are
1233 Text |              and convention.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: The divine madness
1234 Text |        tolerably credible and possibly true though partly erring myth,
1235 Text |      definition of love, which whether true or false certainly gave
1236 Text |               benefits.~PHAEDRUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: I am myself a
1237 Text |             had himself discovered the true rule of art, which was to
1238 Text |                itself.’~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And will not
1239 Text |             physician?~PHAEDRUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And if Adrastus
1240 Text |              to know where and how the true art of rhetoric and persuasion
1241 Text |               is acted upon.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: Thirdly, having
1242 Text |             SOCRATES: Yes, that is the true and only way in which any
1243 Text |               not easy.~SOCRATES: Very true; and therefore let us consider
1244 Text |               is honourable.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: Enough appears
1245 Text |              have been said by us of a true and false art of speaking.~
1246 Text |               of the ancients, whether true or not they only know; although
1247 Text |           whether a thing is or is not true, but who the speaker is
1248 Text |                 PHAEDRUS: That is most true.~SOCRATES: I cannot help
1249 Text |           PHAEDRUS: That again is most true.~SOCRATES: Is there not
1250 Text |                and the like.~SOCRATES: True, Phaedrus. But nobler far
1251 Text |              in the soul, which is the true way of writing, is there


Philebus
     Part
1252 Intro|              the sciences and arts and true opinions are enumerated
1253 Intro|          nature and kinds of pleasure, true and false opinion, the nature
1254 Intro|               fourth, to knowledge and true opinion; the fifth, to pure
1255 Intro|               Prometheus, who gave the true fire from heaven, is supposed
1256 Intro|           contradictory statements are true. But the antinomy is so
1257 Intro|          denied the claim of either to true existence. Of that positive
1258 Intro|             whole, finding in them the true type both of human life
1259 Intro|              classed with the arts and true opinions, because they proceed
1260 Intro|           pleasures, like opinions, be true and false? In the sense
1261 Intro|            both must be admitted to be true: nor can we deny that to
1262 Intro|                us allow that there are true and false pleasures, we
1263 Intro|        inscribed by them may be either true or false; and they may represent
1264 Intro|      propositions, which are sometimes true, and sometimes false; for
1265 Intro|               friends of the gods, see true pictures of the future,
1266 Intro|                misfortunes of others? ‘True.’ And ignorance is a misfortune? ‘
1267 Intro|          Fourth, sciences and arts and true opinions.~Fifth, painless
1268 Intro|             these many theories is the true one? we may answer: All
1269 Intro|                is thus regarded as the true and only end of human life.
1270 Intro|                also be psychologically true—they must agree with our
1271 Intro|                so we rob them of their true character. We give them
1272 Intro|              own pleasure or interest. True religion is not working
1273 Intro|             one of these aspects is as true and good as another; but
1274 Intro|           happiness of mankind, though true enough, seems to have less
1275 Intro|              happiness principle to be true and valuable, and the necessary
1276 Intro|            good or for great evil. But true religion is the synthesis
1277 Intro|          philosophy and of all art the true understanding is to be sought
1278 Text |             kindred, right opinion and true reasoning, are better and
1279 Text |              such a state?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And what if there
1280 Text |            life of wisdom.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Or suppose that
1281 Text |               in the matter?~PHILEBUS: True enough. Nevertheless I would
1282 Text |         obvious and detrimental to the true course of thought; and no
1283 Text |            mere art of disputation and true dialectic.~PROTARCHUS: I
1284 Text |             infinite.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And yet not by
1285 Text |           grammarian.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And the knowledge
1286 Text |            each of them one?~PHILEBUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the precise
1287 Text |              of wisdom.~SOCRATES: Most true, O son of Callias; and the
1288 Text |               to pleasure, and are the true objects of pursuit, are
1289 Text |             memory, nor knowledge, nor true opinion, you would in the
1290 Text |            with you; and if you had no true opinion you would not think
1291 Text |             Certainly that seems to be true.~SOCRATES: And now have
1292 Text |               of my ‘mind’; but of the true, which is also the divine
1293 Text |               pleasure. And if this is true, pleasure cannot be truly
1294 Text |               PROTARCHUS: That is most true.~SOCRATES: Ever, as we say,
1295 Text |          Socrates, that is exceedingly true.~SOCRATES: Yes, my dear
1296 Text |                and colder?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Add to them drier,
1297 Text |              of life?~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: I omit ten thousand
1298 Text |              appeared one.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the finite
1299 Text |              these, being a birth into true being, effected by the measure
1300 Text |           called one?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And the same
1301 Text |             but different?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Did not the things
1302 Text |                did we not?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And we see what
1303 Text |       conqueror life.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: And what shall
1304 Text |              the universe.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And is not our
1305 Text |             fire has.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: And is the fire
1306 Text |             elements.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: But is our body
1307 Text |               called.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Do not then suppose
1308 Text |              the universe.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And they furnish
1309 Text |              earnest.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: I think, friend,
1310 Text |             power of mind.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the class
1311 Text |                and a pain.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Whereas eating
1312 Text |             pleasant.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And the unnatural
1313 Text |              of pain?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And do not forget
1314 Text |              second?~PROTARCHUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: When I say oblivious,
1315 Text |        consciousness?~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: Then now we know
1316 Text |         reminiscence?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: There is a reason
1317 Text |             replenishment?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then there must
1318 Text |            opposite state.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the argument,
1319 Text |             the soul.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: The argument
1320 Text |            succeeds to it.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And what would
1321 Text |              despair?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And has he not
1322 Text |            possible.~PROTARCHUS: Quite true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Shall
1323 Text |              which we are speaking are true or false? or some true and
1324 Text |             are true or false? or some true and some false?~PROTARCHUS:
1325 Text |               Protarchus, can there be true and false fears, or true
1326 Text |               true and false fears, or true and false expectations,
1327 Text |             and false expectations, or true and false opinions?~PROTARCHUS:
1328 Text |             grant that opinions may be true or false, but not pleasures.~
1329 Text |        pleasures are false, and others true?~PROTARCHUS: To be sure
1330 Text |              of something?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And a man must
1331 Text |                Yes; that is also quite true.~SOCRATES: Then, how can
1332 Text |                how can opinion be both true and false, and pleasure
1333 Text |                and false, and pleasure true only, although pleasure
1334 Text |               by us.~PROTARCHUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And if badness
1335 Text |            pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: Quite true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And
1336 Text |                an opinion which is not true, but false?~PROTARCHUS:
1337 Text |               and also such a thing as true opinion?~PROTARCHUS: Yes.~
1338 Text |             consequent upon these—upon true and false opinion, I mean.~
1339 Text |               I mean.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And do not opinion
1340 Text |                appearance.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: To which he may
1341 Text |    considerable time.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Well, now, I
1342 Text |             feeling writes truly, then true opinion and true propositions
1343 Text |           truly, then true opinion and true propositions which are the
1344 Text |                the images answering to true opinions and words are true,
1345 Text |            true opinions and words are true, and to false opinions and
1346 Text |               future?~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: And do all those
1347 Text |               the reverse?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And all men,
1348 Text |              good fortune.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And may we not
1349 Text |               the gods, have generally true pictures presented to them,
1350 Text |             pleasures, and the good in true pleasures?~PROTARCHUS: Doubtless.~
1351 Text |             ludicrous imitation of the true, and there are pains of
1352 Text |              future?~PROTARCHUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And this was
1353 Text |           except in as far as they are true or false?~PROTARCHUS: In
1354 Text |             decision.~PROTARCHUS: Very true; that is to say, if there
1355 Text |               experienced.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then now you
1356 Text |               magnitudes obscure their true proportions, and make us
1357 Text |                 Then the opinions were true and false, and infected
1358 Text |              falsity.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: But now it is
1359 Text |         pleasures which are said to be true and false because they are
1360 Text |            pleasure or pain is real or true.~PROTARCHUS: Certainly not.~
1361 Text |              latter alternative is the true one.~SOCRATES: Then we were
1362 Text |       pleasures and pains?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: A better and
1363 Text |               SOCRATES: But if this be true, the life to which I was
1364 Text |               of joy.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: We may assume
1365 Text |              from me what I deem to be true pleasures. Having thus examined
1366 Text |             Then if we want to see the true nature of pleasures as a
1367 Text |          greatest desires?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And do not people
1368 Text |              Very good, and if this be true, then the greatest pleasures
1369 Text |               That description is very true to nature.~SOCRATES: And
1370 Text |              predominates?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Of cases in which
1371 Text |              That, Socrates, is a very true description of the opinions
1372 Text |                 Yes, Protarchus, quite true of the mixed pleasures,
1373 Text |               believe that to be quite true.~SOCRATES: There still remains
1374 Text |               PROTARCHUS: That is very true, but I do not as yet see
1375 Text |     unrighteous pain?~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: There is nothing
1376 Text |            always an evil?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the three
1377 Text |              same instant.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And the argument
1378 Text |              right in conceiving to be true?~SOCRATES: True pleasures
1379 Text |       conceiving to be true?~SOCRATES: True pleasures are those which
1380 Text |            very few.~PROTARCHUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And now, having
1381 Text |                of us.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: Let us investigate
1382 Text |               unadulterated.~SOCRATES: True, Protarchus; and so the
1383 Text |               a generation, and has no true being? Do not certain ingenious
1384 Text |              some essence?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And that for
1385 Text |            generation only, and had no true being at all; for he is
1386 Text |               educational?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And in the productive
1387 Text |              certain.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: And the same
1388 Text |          generalship.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: The art of the
1389 Text |   straightening wood.~PROTARCHUS: Very true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Then
1390 Text |              parallel to pleasure, and true to that original design,
1391 Text |            certainty?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And just now
1392 Text |             life is spent?~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: He is labouring,
1393 Text |               become.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And can we say
1394 Text |                the stable and pure and true and unalloyed has to do
1395 Text |                class.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And of the names
1396 Text |                in the contemplation of true being?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly.~
1397 Text |             pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: Very true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: In
1398 Text |              says that pleasure is the true end of all living beings,
1399 Text |               wisdom and knowledge and true opinion to belong to the
1400 Text |              in the mixed.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: There is greater
1401 Text |                understanding about the true nature of this and of all
1402 Text |        mingling in a single stream the true portions of both according
1403 Text |           pleasures.~PROTARCHUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And now the time
1404 Text |             once, or at first only the true ones.~PROTARCHUS: It will
1405 Text |           safer course to let flow the true ones first.~SOCRATES: Let
1406 Text |            spoken well.~SOCRATES: Very true. And now let us go back
1407 Text |          companions in addition to the true ones? ‘Why, Socrates,’ they
1408 Text |        forgotten and unheeded; but the true and pure pleasures, of which
1409 Text |              and to divine what is the true form of good—there would
1410 Text |               the behalf of memory and true opinion?~PROTARCHUS: Most
1411 Text |                of it.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: And now the power
1412 Text |                world over.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Also we said
1413 Text |               that family.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if you reckon
1414 Text |             soul—sciences and arts and true opinions as we called them?
1415 Text |             our discourse.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then let us sum
1416 Text |             than pleasure.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: But, suspecting
1417 Text |              of them.~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: The claims both
1418 Text |           perfection.~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: But, though they
1419 Text |                rank fifth.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES: But not first;


Protagoras
     Part
1420 Intro|           pleasures and pains in their true proportion. This art of
1421 Intro|            opposition of good and bad, true and false, but of the old
1422 Intro|    Lacedaemonians are described as the true philosophers, and Laconic
1423 Intro|             and Laconic brevity as the true form of philosophy, evidently
1424 Text |           replied, that is very likely true, but not enough; for in
1425 Text |          playing the lyre. Is not that true?~Yes.~Then about what does
1426 Text |           taught. And not only is this true of the state, but of individuals;
1427 Text |       incurable—if what I am saying be true, good men have their sons
1428 Text |           wholly ignorant. And this is true of virtue or of anything
1429 Text |              their father; and this is true of the sons of many other
1430 Text |              to you and said, ‘Is this true, Protagoras? and do you
1431 Text |             opposite of folly?~That is true, he said.~And when men act
1432 Text |           there is the acute in sound?~True.~To which the only opposite
1433 Text |                temperance? Is not that true, Protagoras? What else would
1434 Text |                That, Callias, is not a true statement of the case. For
1435 Text |                a good composition, and true?~Yes, I said, both good
1436 Text |             Yes, I said, both good and true.~But if there is a contradiction,
1437 Text |             the composition be good or true?~No, not in that case, I
1438 Text |               ages have noted that the true Lacedaemonian type of character
1439 Text |                was moderately good and true; but I do blame you because,
1440 Text |              The peltasts. And that is true of all other things, he
1441 Text |              things.~Good, I said, and true. But are you aware that
1442 Text |             and are saying what is not true, they would probably reply:
1443 Text |              that is. But you cannot.’~True, said Protagoras.~Suppose
1444 Text |       consequences:—If what you say is true, then the argument is absurd
1445 Text |               my friends, that this is true? I am confident that they
1446 Text |              other?~This is undeniably true.~And this, as possessing
1447 Text |               what I said was entirely true.~Then you agree, I said,
1448 Text |              our former assertions are true, a man will pursue that
1449 Text |             Socrates, so men say.~Very true, I said. But I want to know
1450 Text |             again, I replied, is quite true. And if this has been rightly
1451 Text |           admitted to be good.~That is true; and to that opinion I shall
1452 Text |         opinion I shall always adhere.~True, I said. But which of the
1453 Text |               fear or base confidence?~True, he replied.~And if not
1454 Text |        ignorance and uninstructedness?~True, he said.~Then as to the
1455 Text |              knowledge; and if this is true, it must be quite incapable


The Republic
     Book
1456 1    |             praises of wealth. That is true, he said. ~Yes, that is
1457 1    |               said. ~Yes, that is very true, but may I ask another question?-
1458 1    |               thought that they may be true: either from the weakness
1459 1    |               be denied to be a debt. ~True. ~Then when the person who
1460 1    |                pilot would be better? ~True. ~Then what is that joint
1461 1    |              best able to create one? ~True. ~And he is the best guard
1462 1    |               and conversely? ~That is true. ~Then to them the good
1463 1    |            evil will be their friends? True. ~And in that case they
1464 1    |            would not do an injustice? ~True. ~Then according to your
1465 1    |            meaning of Simonides. ~Very true, he said; and I think that
1466 1    |             that what you say is quite true, Socrates. ~Then if a man
1467 1    |                not wise; for it is not true, if, as has been clearly
1468 1    |                to your enemies." ~Most true, he said. ~Yes, I said;
1469 1    |             which you interdict be the true answer to the question,
1470 1    |            others, I replied, is quite true; but that I am ungrateful
1471 1    |               forbade me to use. It is true, however, that in your definition
1472 1    |           rightly, and sometimes not? ~True. ~When they make them rightly,
1473 1    |                respect of the mistake? True, we say that the physician
1474 1    |               I am now speaking of the true physician. ~A healer of
1475 1    |              pilot-that is to say, the true pilot-is he a captain of
1476 1    |                over the sailors. ~Very true, he said. ~Now, I said,
1477 1    |             the interest of the body? ~True, he said. ~Nor does the
1478 1    |             the subject of their art? ~True, he said. ~But surely, Thrasymachus,
1479 1    |                of his patient; for the true physician is also a ruler
1480 1    |          rulers of States, if they are true rulers, never think of their
1481 1    |               learned whether they are true or not? Is the attempt to
1482 1    |              you began by defining the true physician in an exact sense,
1483 1    |            States, that is to say, the true rulers, like being in authority. ~
1484 1    |              all have the common use? ~True, he replied. ~And when the
1485 1    |             his orders to another, the true artist does not regard his
1486 1    |            they are, a disgrace? ~Very true. ~And for this reason, I
1487 1    |              have plain proof that the true ruler is not meant by nature
1488 1    |               he is saying what is not true? ~Most certainly, he replied. ~
1489 1    |                is your business. ~Very true, I said; that is what I
1490 1    |               may have more than all? ~True. ~We may put the matter
1491 1    |                 And the wise is good? ~True. ~Then the wise and good
1492 1    |                of them in subjection? ~True, he replied; and I will
1493 1    |                friendship; is not that true, Thrasymachus? ~I agree,
1494 1    |              and the just? Is not that true, Thrasymachus? ~Yes. And,
1495 1    |              together, is not strictly true, for, if they had been perfectly
1496 1    |    pruning-hook made for the purpose? ~True. ~May we not say that this
1497 1    |               and an excellence also? ~True. ~And the same is true of
1498 1    |                 True. ~And the same is true of all other things; they
1499 1    |              cannot fulfil their end? ~True. ~And the same observation
1500 2    |               just-if what they say is true, Socrates, since I myself