The Apology
     Part
   1 Intro|           are my witnesses. For they know that I am speaking the truth,
   2 Intro|     counter-penalty when he does not know whether death, which Anytus
   3 Intro|     acquitted him. He wishes them to know that the divine sign never
   4 Intro|              terms was, as far as we know, never fulfilled. No inference
   5 Text |       accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that they almost made me
   6 Text |             hardest of all, I do not know and cannot tell the names
   7 Text |            which I do not pretend to know either much or little—not
   8 Text |             Well, Chaerephon, as you know, was very impetuous in all
   9 Text |  interpretation of his riddle? for I know that I have no wisdom, small
  10 Text |             that he knows; I neither know nor think that I know. In
  11 Text |        neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular,
  12 Text |            must to all who appear to know, and find out the meaning
  13 Text |           not mistaken, for they did know many things of which I was
  14 Text |        discover, who think that they know something, but really know
  15 Text |           know something, but really know little or nothing; and then
  16 Text |       practise or teach? they do not know, and cannot tell; but in
  17 Text |       dissembled nothing. And yet, I know that my plainness of speech
  18 Text |         their improver; for you must know, as you have taken the pains
  19 Text |            not my meaning. I want to know who the person is, who,
  20 Text |              and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom
  21 Text |           But still I should like to know, Meletus, in what I am affirmed
  22 Text |              such a degree as not to know that these doctrines are
  23 Text |        defence is unnecessary, but I know only too well how many are
  24 Text |           man knows what he does not know? And in this respect only
  25 Text |             they are:—that whereas I know but little of the world
  26 Text |              I do not suppose that I know: but I do know that injustice
  27 Text |        suppose that I know: but I do know that injustice and disobedience
  28 Text |            they are my brethren. For know that this is the command
  29 Text |            cry out. I would have you know, that if you kill such an
  30 Text |            justice, and because they know that I am speaking the truth,
  31 Text |              proposes? When I do not know whether death is a good
  32 Text |          good cheer about death, and know of a certainty, that no


Charmides
     Part
  33 Intro|              and of what he does not know. But this is contrary to
  34 Intro|            But even if knowledge can know itself, how does the knowledge
  35 Intro|             the knowledge of what we know imply the knowledge of what
  36 Intro|          knowledge of what we do not know? Besides, knowledge is an
  37 Intro|              us that we or other men know something, but can never
  38 Intro|            can never tell us what we know.~Admitting that there is
  39 Intro|            is a knowledge of what we know and of what we do not know,
  40 Intro|           know and of what we do not know, which would supply a rule
  41 Intro|            the knowledge of what you know is the same as the knowledge
  42 Intro|         knowledge of what you do not know; and also in the distinction
  43 Intro|        distinction between ‘what you know’ and ‘that you know,’ (Greek;)
  44 Intro|              you know’ and ‘that you know,’ (Greek;) here too is the
  45 Intro|             the knowledge of what we know and do not know, or of the
  46 Intro|              what we know and do not know, or of the knowledge of
  47 Text |              I rather think that you know him too, although he was
  48 Text |              departure.~Certainly, I know him, I said, for he was
  49 Text |           Charmides entered.~Now you know, my friend, that I cannot
  50 Text |            make him believe that you know a cure for the headache?~
  51 Text |           with an effort, that I did know.~And what is it? he said.~
  52 Text |              you quite sure that you know my name?~I ought to know
  53 Text |             know my name?~I ought to know you, he replied, for there
  54 Text |           head. But if not, I do not know what I am to do with you,
  55 Text |               and therefore I do not know how to answer you.~I said
  56 Text |            that I think is true.~You know your native language, I
  57 Text |           true; but I should like to know what you think about another
  58 Text |           thinking that no one would know the meaning of the words ‘
  59 Text |               may well be assumed to know the meaning of them; and
  60 Text |          saying; but I am curious to know whether you imagine that
  61 Text |            the physician necessarily know when his treatment is likely
  62 Text |            the craftsman necessarily know when he is likely to be
  63 Text |             do good or harm, and not know what he is himself doing,
  64 Text |           wise or temperate, but not know his own wisdom or temperance?~
  65 Text |       temperate or wise who does not know himself; and I am not ashamed
  66 Text |          dedicated the inscription, ‘Know thyself!’ at Delphi. That
  67 Text |            in a sort of riddle, for ‘Know thyself!’ and ‘Be temperate!’
  68 Text |              for they imagined that ‘Know thyself!’ was a piece of
  69 Text |      previous discussion (in which I know not whether you or I are
  70 Text |             as though I professed to know about the questions which
  71 Text |          time, just because I do not know; and when I have enquired,
  72 Text |            that?~Yes.~Now, I want to know, what is that which is not
  73 Text |     temperate man, and he only, will know himself, and be able to
  74 Text |            what he knows or does not know, and to see what others
  75 Text |               and to see what others know and think that they know
  76 Text |             know and think that they know and do really know; and
  77 Text |              they know and do really know; and what they do not know,
  78 Text |           know; and what they do not know, and fancy that they know,
  79 Text |            know, and fancy that they know, when they do not. No other
  80 Text |          self-knowledge—for a man to know what he knows, and what
  81 Text |          knows, and what he does not know. That is your meaning?~Yes,
  82 Text |             possible for a person to know that he knows and does not
  83 Text |           that he knows and does not know what he knows and does not
  84 Text |           what he knows and does not know; and in the second place,
  85 Text |          should not.~Or did you ever know of a fear which fears itself
  86 Text |            us to distinguish what we know or do not know, which, as
  87 Text |   distinguish what we know or do not know, which, as we were saying,
  88 Text |            he who has knowledge will know. In the same way he who
  89 Text |          which is self-knowing, will know himself.~I do not doubt,
  90 Text |              I said, that a man will know himself, when he possesses
  91 Text |               having this, he should know what he knows and what he
  92 Text |           knows and what he does not know?~Because, Socrates, they
  93 Text |            how this knowing what you know and do not know is the same
  94 Text |             what you know and do not know is the same as the knowledge
  95 Text |     probability is that he will only know that he knows something,
  96 Text |              or science teach him to know what he knows? Say that
  97 Text |            of these things will only know that he knows, but not what
  98 Text |         things which we do or do not know, but only the knowledge
  99 Text |           only the knowledge that we know or do not know?~That is
 100 Text |     knowledge that we know or do not know?~That is the inference.~
 101 Text |          pretender knows or does not know that which he says that
 102 Text |          that he knows: he will only know that he has a knowledge
 103 Text |          must infer that he does not know anything of medicine.~Exactly.~
 104 Text |              the wise man may indeed know that the physician has some
 105 Text |          knows from one who does not know but pretends or thinks that
 106 Text |           other artist, he will only know his fellow in art or wisdom,
 107 Text |             what he knew and did not know, and that he knew the one
 108 Text |             knew the one and did not know the other, and to recognize
 109 Text |      attempted to do what we did not know, but we should have found
 110 Text |         great advantage of wisdom—to know what is known and what is
 111 Text |             the knowledge of what we know and do not know. Assuming
 112 Text |              what we know and do not know. Assuming all this, still,
 113 Text |           any one else pretending to know matters of which he is ignorant,
 114 Text |             is.~Yet I should like to know one thing more: which of
 115 Text |             what he knew and did not know; also we nobly disregarded,
 116 Text |           way that which he does not know at all; for our assumption
 117 Text |         knows that which he does not know; than which nothing, as
 118 Text |              I am sure that I do not know, Socrates, whether I have
 119 Text |            temperance; for how can I know whether I have a thing,


Cratylus
     Part
 120 Intro|             the study of language we know little, and there necessarily
 121 Intro|              Of the real Cratylus we know nothing, except that he
 122 Intro|           names of the Gods, that we know nothing. Even the realism
 123 Intro|              Still he preserves his ‘know nothing’ disguise, and himself
 124 Intro|             rather, he would like to know, What Socrates himself thinks
 125 Intro|              the legislator ought to know the different materials
 126 Intro|              should like to let them know beforehand that we are not
 127 Intro|           these disguised words. You know that according to the old
 128 Intro|            singly, we shall learn to know them in their various combinations
 129 Intro|              the truth, and when you know come and tell me. ‘I have
 130 Intro|     resolving the languages which we know into their parts, and then
 131 Intro|        origin of man; and if we ever know more of the one, we may
 132 Intro|            the one, we may expect to know more of the other. (Compare
 133 Intro|          studies in which we seem to know less as we know more; partly
 134 Intro|              seem to know less as we know more; partly because we
 135 Intro|    conjectures only: so little do we know of the origin of language
 136 Intro|              we may be truly said to know what we can manufacture.
 137 Intro|         visible and intellectual. We know from experience that it
 138 Intro|             regulated: but we do not know, and we seem as if we should
 139 Intro|           seem as if we should never know, any more than in the parallel
 140 Intro|    exceptions. We do not say that we know how sense became first allied
 141 Intro|             understood by us when we know something of their early
 142 Text |              and therefore, I do not know the truth about such matters;
 143 Text |             for example, he ought to know how to put into iron the
 144 Text |           not our legislator also to know how to put the true natural
 145 Text |             being done, and who will know also whether the work is
 146 Text |     legislator in his work, and will know whether the work is well
 147 Text |          names? That, if you care to know, is the next question.~HERMOGENES:
 148 Text |     HERMOGENES: Certainly, I care to know.~SOCRATES: Then reflect.~
 149 Text |              assistance of those who know, and you must pay them well
 150 Text |      referring?~SOCRATES: Do you not know what he says about the river
 151 Text |              and about this river—to know that he ought to be called
 152 Text |    Scamandrius?~HERMOGENES: I do not know.~SOCRATES: How would you
 153 Text |          SOCRATES: And Homer, as you know, says that the Trojan men
 154 Text |        believe that I myself did not know what I meant when I imagined
 155 Text |          names of letters, which you know are not the same as the
 156 Text |              intended—so well did he know how to give the letters
 157 Text |              me all in an instant, I know not whence, will or will
 158 Text |           Let me hear.~SOCRATES: You know how Hesiod uses the word?~
 159 Text |           mean?~SOCRATES: Do you not know that the heroes are demigods?~
 160 Text |            follow next in order. You know the distinction of soul
 161 Text |            of Zeus? I should like to know whether any similar principle
 162 Text |     acknowledge,—that of the Gods we know nothing, either of their
 163 Text |              like, because we do not know of any other. That also,
 164 Text |             which is all that we who know nothing can affirm. Next
 165 Text |           more God! I should like to know about Hermes, of whom I
 166 Text |            him out, and then I shall know whether there is any meaning
 167 Text |            you; but I should like to know first whether you can tell
 168 Text |        inference?~SOCRATES: Why, you know that any one who seeks to
 169 Text |          Attic way, if you desire to know the probable truth about
 170 Text |             should like very much to know, in the next place, how
 171 Text |            and, like epistasthai (to know), implies the progression
 172 Text |             be true, I still want to know what is justice.’ Thereupon
 173 Text |            dear friend; but then you know that the original names
 174 Text |           view.~SOCRATES: And do you know that the ancients said duogon
 175 Text |              of onoma.~SOCRATES: You know the word maiesthai (to seek)?~
 176 Text |        considered all this, we shall know how to apply them to what
 177 Text |              the truth about them we know nothing, and do but entertain
 178 Text |            age. But I should like to know whether you are one of those
 179 Text |          which is all that I want to know.~CRATYLUS: I should say
 180 Text |              say skleros (hard), you know what I mean.~CRATYLUS: Yes,
 181 Text |          which I understand, and you know that I understand the meaning
 182 Text |              And if when I speak you know my meaning, there is an
 183 Text |              knows the one will also know the other, because they
 184 Text |            who knows names will also know things.~CRATYLUS: That is
 185 Text |         about which I should like to know whether you think with me.
 186 Text |           givers of the first names, know or not know the things which
 187 Text |             first names, know or not know the things which they named?~
 188 Text |              how would you expect to know them? What other way can
 189 Text |             or state, for you cannot know that which has no state.~
 190 Text |              there will be no one to know and nothing to be known:


Critias
     Part
 191 Intro|              to speak of men whom we know and not of gods whom we
 192 Intro|           not of gods whom we do not know. Socrates readily grants
 193 Intro|      panegyric on him (Tim.). Yet we know that his character was accounted
 194 Text |             And although I very well know that my request may appear
 195 Text |           has to speak of it, and we know how ignorant we are concerning
 196 Text |        suppose that the gods did not know what was proper for each


Crito
     Part
 197 Text |              evil: people who do not know you and me will believe
 198 Text |           ever. And I should like to know whether I may say the same
 199 Text |               Socrates, for I do not know.~SOCRATES: Then consider
 200 Text |             had you any curiosity to know other states or their laws:
 201 Text |              an enemy; for they will know that you have done your
 202 Text |             hearing any other. And I know that anything more which


Euthydemus
     Part
 203 Intro|              you learned you did not know and were not wise.’ Then
 204 Intro|          said Euthydemus, ‘what they know or what they do not know?’ ‘
 205 Intro|             know or what they do not know?’ ‘The latter.’ ‘And dictation
 206 Intro|            letters?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘And you know letters?’ ‘Yes.’ ‘Then you
 207 Intro|              Then you learn what you know.’ ‘But,’ retorts Dionysodorus, ‘
 208 Intro|          learn that which you do not know.’~Socrates is afraid that
 209 Intro|          something; and as he cannot know and not know, he cannot
 210 Intro|            as he cannot know and not know, he cannot know some things
 211 Intro|              and not know, he cannot know some things and not know
 212 Intro|             know some things and not know others, and therefore he
 213 Intro|       Dionysodorus and all other men know all things. ‘Do they know
 214 Intro|            know all things. ‘Do they know shoemaking, etc?’ ‘Yes.’
 215 Intro|         absoluteness of the verb ‘to know.’ And here Dionysodorus
 216 Intro|            confess that ‘he does not know the good to be unjust.’
 217 Intro|         enquire either into what you know or do not know,’ is lightly
 218 Intro|              what you know or do not know,’ is lightly touched upon
 219 Text |             their wisdom, that I may know beforehand what we are going
 220 Text |              way of wisdom, for they know all about war,—all that
 221 Text |              a good general ought to know about the array and command
 222 Text |         fighting in armour: and they know about law too, and can teach
 223 Text |          learners you did not as yet know the things which you were
 224 Text |            learning what you did not know, were unlearned when you
 225 Text |           who learn, learn what they know, or what they do not know?~
 226 Text |            know, or what they do not know?~Again Dionysodorus whispered
 227 Text |       learned learn what they do not know; and he put him through
 228 Text |           same as before.~Do you not know letters?~He assented.~All
 229 Text |             he assented.~Then if you know all letters, he dictates
 230 Text |              dictates that which you know?~This again was admitted
 231 Text |             but he only who does not know letters learns?~Nay, said
 232 Text |          said he, you learn what you know, if you know all the letters?~
 233 Text |          learn what you know, if you know all the letters?~He admitted
 234 Text |       admitted that those who do not know are of the number of those
 235 Text |            he said, those who do not know learn, and not those who
 236 Text |             learn, and not those who know.~Euthydemus was proceeding
 237 Text |           initiated, is, as you will know, accompanied by dancing
 238 Text |          perceiving that you did not know, wanted to explain to you
 239 Text |           sorts of men, of those who know, and of those who do not
 240 Text |              and of those who do not know. There was a similar trick
 241 Text |          whether men learn what they know or what they do not know.
 242 Text |             know or what they do not know. These parts of learning
 243 Text |       good-fortune; even a child may know that.~The simple-minded
 244 Text |              said to him: Do you not know, Cleinias, that flute-players
 245 Text |           what they give us. If they know how to destroy men in such
 246 Text |              into a good one—if they know this (and they do know this—
 247 Text |          they know this (and they do know this—at any rate they said
 248 Text |            of wise men: and indeed I know not what to make of this
 249 Text |            mouth at all, because you know that you ought not.~You
 250 Text |           They are alive.~And do you know of any word which is alive?~
 251 Text |     composers of speeches who do not know how to use the speeches
 252 Text |           the makers of lyres do not know how to use the lyres; and
 253 Text |           statesman, for he does not know how to use them himself;
 254 Text |            nonsense.~SOCRATES: All I know is that I heard these words,
 255 Text |           Crito. But at any rate you know that if this is the art
 256 Text |             tell me, he said, do you know anything?~Yes, I said, I
 257 Text |             anything?~Yes, I said, I know many things, but not anything
 258 Text |             something?~I did.~If you know, you are knowing.~Certainly,
 259 Text |             not, if you are knowing, know all things?~Certainly not,
 260 Text |          other things which I do not know.~And if you do not know,
 261 Text |              know.~And if you do not know, you are not knowing.~Yes,
 262 Text |               of that which I do not know.~Still you are not knowing,
 263 Text |               and therefore, since I know one thing, that I know all,
 264 Text |             I know one thing, that I know all, for I cannot be knowing
 265 Text |              the same time, and if I know all things, then I must
 266 Text |            then, you two, do you not know some things, and not know
 267 Text |            know some things, and not know others?~Certainly not, Socrates,
 268 Text |             you mean, I said; do you know nothing?~Nay, he replied,
 269 Text |               Nay, he replied, we do know something.~Then, I said,
 270 Text |         something.~Then, I said, you know all things, if you know
 271 Text |              know all things, if you know anything?~Yes, all things,
 272 Text |       blessing! And do all other men know all things or nothing?~Certainly,
 273 Text |              he replied; they cannot know some things, and not know
 274 Text |            know some things, and not know others, and be at the same
 275 Text |          inference? I said.~They all know all things, he replied,
 276 Text |          things, he replied, if they know one thing.~O heavens, Dionysodorus,
 277 Text |              do you really and truly know all things, including carpentering
 278 Text |       Certainly, he said.~And do you know stitching?~Yes, by the gods,
 279 Text |            cobbling, too.~And do you know things such as the numbers
 280 Text |             which would enable me to know whether you speak truly.~
 281 Text |            not take our word that we know all things?~Certainly not,
 282 Text |             thing, and then we shall know that you are speak the truth;
 283 Text |             said.~And did you always know this?~Always, he said.~When
 284 Text |            incredulous, if I did not know you to be wise men.~But
 285 Text |              will prove to me that I know and have always known all
 286 Text |            and I will answer.~Do you know something, Socrates, or
 287 Text |        Something, I said.~And do you know with what you know, or with
 288 Text |            do you know with what you know, or with something else?~
 289 Text |          something else?~With what I know; and I suppose that you
 290 Text |      whatever you bid; when I do not know what you are asking, you
 291 Text |             said, again, whether you know what you know with something,
 292 Text |            whether you know what you know with something, or with
 293 Text |              nothing.~Yes, I said; I know with my soul.~The man will
 294 Text |               he said, with what you know, but whether you know with
 295 Text |            you know, but whether you know with something.~Again I
 296 Text |          answer simply that I always know what I know with something.~
 297 Text |            that I always know what I know with something.~And is that
 298 Text |            Always, I replied, when I know, I know with this.~Will
 299 Text |              replied, when I know, I know with this.~Will you not
 300 Text |            now answer: Do you always know with this?~Always; since
 301 Text |           withdraw the words ‘when I know.’~You always know with this,
 302 Text |             when I know.’~You always know with this, or, always knowing,
 303 Text |               always knowing, do you know some things with this, and
 304 Text |            something else, or do you know all things with this?~All
 305 Text |         things with this?~All that I know, I replied, I know with
 306 Text |            that I know, I replied, I know with this.~There again,
 307 Text |          take away the words ‘that I know.’~Nay, take nothing away;
 308 Text |            ask: Would you be able to know all things, if you did not
 309 Text |           all things, if you did not know all things?~Quite impossible.~
 310 Text |             for you confess that you know all things.~I suppose that
 311 Text |         implied in the words ‘that I know’ is not allowed to stand;
 312 Text |        allowed to stand; and so I do know all things.~And have you
 313 Text |             admitted that you always know all things with that which
 314 Text |           things with that which you know, whether you make the addition
 315 Text |            the addition of ‘when you know them’ or not? for you have
 316 Text |            all things, if you always know them; and I swear that you
 317 Text |             shall always continue to know all things, if I am of the
 318 Text |        cannot doubt that I really do know all things, when I am told
 319 Text |          wisdom—how can I say that I know such things, Euthydemus,
 320 Text |          good are unjust; come, do I know that or not?~Certainly,
 321 Text |          that or not?~Certainly, you know that.~What do I know?~That
 322 Text |             you know that.~What do I know?~That the good are not unjust.~
 323 Text |               Then, I said, I do not know this.~You are ruining the
 324 Text |             he will be proved not to know, and then after all he will
 325 Text |            from proving to me that I know the good to be unjust; such
 326 Text |            asking—that I pretty well know—out of envy, in order to
 327 Text |               Good, I say. And yet I know that I am going to be caught
 328 Text |            known is here affirmed to know.~‘What one sees, that one
 329 Text |          said, do you think that you know what is your own?~Yes, I
 330 Text |             say? First of all let me know;—What manner of man was
 331 Text |             beings: so that I do not know how I can advise the youth
 332 Text |               Dear Crito, do you not know that in every profession


Euthyphro
     Part
 333 Intro|          rejoins Socrates, when they know him to be a murderer; but
 334 Intro|              conviction that he must know the nature of piety, or
 335 Text |              Euthyphro; and I hardly know him: his name is Meletus,
 336 Text |            by the world, as I myself know too well; for when I speak
 337 Text |          little does the common herd know of the nature of right and
 338 Text |            Socrates, how little they know what the gods think about
 339 Text |           confessing as I do, that I know nothing about them? Tell
 340 Text |             serf as unjust, how do I know anything more of the nature
 341 Text |          enquiry.~SOCRATES: We shall know better, my good friend,
 342 Text |           seeing and being seen. You know that in all such cases there
 343 Text |             is a difference, and you know also in what the difference
 344 Text |           EUTHYPHRO: I really do not know, Socrates, how to express
 345 Text |        Socrates.~SOCRATES: And yet I know that you are as much wiser
 346 Text |      accomplish? For you must surely know if, as you say, you are
 347 Text |            sure, therefore, that you know the nature of piety and


The First Alcibiades
     Part
 348 Pre  |     undoubted dialogues of Plato. We know, too, that Alcibiades was
 349 Intro|           advises the Athenians must know the difference between them.
 350 Intro|        between them. Does Alcibiades know? If he does, he must either
 351 Intro|  cross-examined by Socrates. He must know himself; that is to say,
 352 Intro|              they do not necessarily know themselves. Self-knowledge
 353 Intro|              s eye. And if we do not know ourselves, we cannot know
 354 Intro|            know ourselves, we cannot know what belongs to ourselves
 355 Text |             their absence? And now I know that you wonder why I, unlike
 356 Text |           and should greatly like to know.~SOCRATES: Then if, as you
 357 Text |            as you say, you desire to know, I suppose that you will
 358 Text |           yourself; whereby you will know that I have always had my
 359 Text |             account with you. Such I know to be your hopes—I am not
 360 Text |             and very likely you, who know that I am speaking the truth,
 361 Text |           why?~SOCRATES: You want to know whether I can make a long
 362 Text |          advise the Athenians—do you know the matter about which they
 363 Text |            about a matter which I do know better than they.~SOCRATES:
 364 Text |           about the things which you know?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~
 365 Text |      Certainly.~SOCRATES: And do you know anything but what you have
 366 Text |             thought that you did not know what you are now supposed
 367 Text |              you are now supposed to know?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~
 368 Text |             SOCRATES: I think that I know tolerably well the extent
 369 Text |             gymnastic, and I want to know what you call the other.~
 370 Text |             SOCRATES: But you surely know what are the charges which
 371 Text |            forgotten that you do not know this, or have you been to
 372 Text |             thought that you did not know them.~ALCIBIADES: And was
 373 Text |             thought that you did not know the nature of the just and
 374 Text |              at the time you did not know whether you were wronged
 375 Text |     ALCIBIADES: Certainly; and I did know then.~SOCRATES: And when
 376 Text |            you said that you did not know them by learning; now, if
 377 Text |            and whence do you come to know them?~ALCIBIADES: I suppose
 378 Text |        qualities?~SOCRATES: Why, you know that knowledge is the first
 379 Text |     Certainly.~SOCRATES: And if they know, they must agree together
 380 Text |              if we wanted further to know not only which are men and
 381 Text |    sufficient proof that they do not know these things and are not
 382 Text |            suppose that we wanted to know not only what men are like,
 383 Text |           how are you ever likely to know the nature of justice and
 384 Text |               did you not say that I know nothing of the just and
 385 Text |      Athenians about what he did not know? Was not that said?~ALCIBIADES:
 386 Text |             teaching what you do not know, and have not taken any
 387 Text |              do not imagine that you know what is expedient for mankind,
 388 Text |             you learn and how do you know the nature of the expedient,
 389 Text |             be able to show that you know the expedient, either because
 390 Text |           either is clearly what you know?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 391 Text |              Socrates, that I do not know what I am saying. Verily,
 392 Text |             reason—because you would know?~ALCIBIADES: I suppose so.~
 393 Text |             is.~SOCRATES: And do you know how to ascend into heaven?~
 394 Text |             that you not only do not know, my friend, but you do not
 395 Text |            you do not think that you know.~ALCIBIADES: There again;
 396 Text |          which you are ignorant? You know, for example, that you know
 397 Text |          know, for example, that you know nothing about the preparation
 398 Text |      perplexed about what you do not know, if you know that you do
 399 Text |              you do not know, if you know that you do not know it?~
 400 Text |             you know that you do not know it?~ALCIBIADES: I imagine
 401 Text |            act when we think that we know what we are doing?~ALCIBIADES:
 402 Text |        people think that they do not know, they entrust their business
 403 Text |              of course, be those who know?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~
 404 Text |             But if neither those who know, nor those who know that
 405 Text |              who know, nor those who know that they do not know, make
 406 Text |            who know that they do not know, make mistakes, there remain
 407 Text |         remain those only who do not know and think that they know.~
 408 Text |             know and think that they know.~ALCIBIADES: Yes, only those.~
 409 Text |          ignorant you fancy that you know them?~ALCIBIADES: I fear
 410 Text |          Very good; but did you ever know a man wise in anything who
 411 Text |       learning and practising? For I know well that by the light of
 412 Text |            SOCRATES: Why, you surely know that our city goes to war
 413 Text |           the Delphian inscription, ‘Know thyself’—not the men whom
 414 Text |              now, What art makes men know how to rule over their fellow-sailors,—
 415 Text |           indeed, Socrates, I do not know what I am saying; and I
 416 Text |           shoe better, if we did not know a shoe?~ALCIBIADES: Impossible.~
 417 Text |              SOCRATES: Nor should we know what art makes a ring better,
 418 Text |           ring better, if we did not know a ring?~ALCIBIADES: That
 419 Text |            SOCRATES: And can we ever know what art makes a man better,
 420 Text |             man better, if we do not know what we are ourselves?~ALCIBIADES:
 421 Text |           Socrates, that anybody can know himself; at other times
 422 Text |        knowing what we are, we shall know how to take care of ourselves,
 423 Text |            are ignorant we shall not know.~ALCIBIADES: That is true.~
 424 Text |         which otherwise we can never know.~ALCIBIADES: You say truly.~
 425 Text |               Then he who bids a man know himself, would have him
 426 Text |              himself, would have him know his soul?~ALCIBIADES: That
 427 Text |          they would seem not even to know their own belongings? When
 428 Text |        self-knowledge, for they only know the belongings of the body,
 429 Text |           learning what you ought to know, before you enter on politics;
 430 Text |        things of the soul?—For if we know them, then I suppose we
 431 Text |              then I suppose we shall know ourselves. Can we really
 432 Text |             you might say to a man, ‘Know thyself,’ what is the nature
 433 Text |          dear Alcibiades, is ever to know herself, must she not look
 434 Text |        Socrates.~SOCRATES: And do we know of any part of our souls
 435 Text |               will be most likely to know himself?~ALCIBIADES: Clearly.~
 436 Text |           and no wisdom, can we ever know our own good and evil?~ALCIBIADES:
 437 Text |            mean, that if you did not know Alcibiades, there would
 438 Text |              SOCRATES: Nor should we know that we were the persons
 439 Text |              belonged, if we did not know ourselves?~ALCIBIADES: How
 440 Text |          SOCRATES: And if we did not know our own belongings, neither
 441 Text |        belongings, neither should we know the belongings of our belongings?~
 442 Text |              just now that a man may know what belongs to him and
 443 Text |           belongs to him and yet not know himself; nay, rather he
 444 Text |           nay, rather he cannot even know the belongings of his belongings;
 445 Text |       affairs of others, he will not know the affairs of states?~ALCIBIADES:
 446 Text |        cannot.~SOCRATES: He will not know what he is doing?~ALCIBIADES:
 447 Text |              mirror you will see and know yourselves and your own
 448 Text |           your own state? And do you know whether you are a freeman
 449 Text |          state.~SOCRATES: And do you know how to escape out of a state


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 450 Intro|             can teach everything and know nothing.~Polus is an impetuous
 451 Intro|             Callicles, about whom we know nothing from other sources,
 452 Intro|               Socrates would like to know before he replies, whether
 453 Intro|             admit that if he did not know them previously he must
 454 Intro|           the first place, a man may know justice and not be just—
 455 Intro|               Socrates would like to know more about him; he cannot
 456 Intro|            that if his pupil did not know justice the rhetorician
 457 Intro|             up to manhood will never know the world. Philosophers
 458 Intro|             incur. For you would not know how to defend yourself if
 459 Intro|            out. But he would like to know first of all what he and
 460 Intro|           adamantine bonds. I myself know not the true nature of these
 461 Intro|        nature of these things, but I know that no one can deny my
 462 Intro|        unravelled; and although they know that the end cannot justify
 463 Intro|              and independent; he can know what he does, and what he
 464 Intro|           does, and what he does not know; and though not without
 465 Intro|              control others; he must know mankind before he can manage
 466 Intro|           teacher; indeed, we hardly know what may not be effected
 467 Intro|              rest. We should like to know what became of the infants ‘
 468 Text |              I dare say I shall soon know better; please to answer
 469 Text |            obtained.~GORGIAS: Yes, I know the song; but what is your
 470 Text |            her crown and end. Do you know any other effect of rhetoric
 471 Text |             well aware that I do not know what, according to you,
 472 Text |              SOCRATES: Now I want to know about rhetoric in the same
 473 Text |         about rhetoric; for I do not know what my own meaning is as
 474 Text |         ignorant; for with those who know he cannot be supposed to
 475 Text |             the rhetorician need not know the truth about things;
 476 Text |             knowledge than those who know?~GORGIAS: Yes, Socrates,
 477 Text |          mean to say, does he really know anything of what is good
 478 Text |         knowing is to be esteemed to know more about these things
 479 Text |             knows? Or must the pupil know these things and come to
 480 Text |             seem to the multitude to know them, when he does not know
 481 Text |          know them, when he does not know them; and seem to be a good
 482 Text |             pupil does chance not to know them, he will have to learn
 483 Text |              rhetorician must either know the nature of the just and
 484 Text |         acknowledge that he does not know, or cannot teach, the nature
 485 Text |              that you would claim to know what Gorgias knows—would
 486 Text |             he pleases, and you will know how to answer him?~POLUS:
 487 Text |              on the body, of which I know no single name, but which
 488 Text |            medicine, and pretends to know what food is the best for
 489 Text |            together; neither do they know what to make of themselves,
 490 Text |         themselves, nor do other men know what to make of them. For
 491 Text |         willing to answer that I may know what you mean.~SOCRATES:
 492 Text |            say that you did not even know whether the great king was
 493 Text |              the truth; for I do not know how he stands in the matter
 494 Text |         issue about matters which to know is honourable and not to
 495 Text |             is honourable and not to know disgraceful; to know or
 496 Text |              to know disgraceful; to know or not to know happiness
 497 Text |       disgraceful; to know or not to know happiness and misery—that
 498 Text |              arguing; his suffrage I know how to take; but with the
 499 Text |          Tell me, then, and you will know, and let us suppose that
 500 Text |          would seem as if he did not know the nature of health and