The Apology
     Part
   1 Text |            court of law, I am quite a stranger to the language of the place;
   2 Text |              me as if I were really a stranger, whom you would excuse if
   3 Text |               one, whether citizen or stranger, who appears to be wise;
   4 Text |               the state, and that any stranger coming in would have said


Charmides
     Part
   5 Text |            first to your soul, as the stranger directed, I will afterwards
   6 Text |           doings (Greek), for I am no stranger to the endless distinctions


Cratylus
     Part
   7 Intro|           were to say, Hail, Athenian Stranger, Hermogenes! would these
   8 Intro|              Plato, Laws):—~‘ATHENIAN STRANGER: And what then is to be
   9 Intro|            What do you mean?~ATHENIAN STRANGER: I mean that he might watch
  10 Intro|            CLEINIAS: How so?~ATHENIAN STRANGER: Why, do you think that
  11 Intro|            CLEINIAS: Hardly.~ATHENIAN STRANGER: But you are quite sure
  12 Intro|          CLEINIAS: No doubt.~ATHENIAN STRANGER: And have there not been
  13 Text |              and say: ‘Hail, Athenian stranger, Hermogenes, son of Smicrion’—


Euthydemus
     Part
  14 Text |              I thought, that he was a stranger with whom you were talking:
  15 Text |            suitor, whether citizen or stranger—the eager desire and prayer
  16 Text |           lover well might) and said: Stranger of Thurii—if politeness


Euthyphro
     Part
  17 Text |             was; for if he had been a stranger you would never have thought


Gorgias
     Part
  18 Text |               every one, Athenian and stranger alike, would be on your
  19 Text |               one, whether citizen or stranger, man or woman, had ever
  20 Text |               man, whether citizen or stranger, slave or freeman? Tell


Laches
     Part
  21 Intro|             the consultation. He is a stranger to Lysimachus, but is afterwards


Laws
     Book
  22 1    |             THE DIALOGUE: An ATHENIAN STRANGER; CLEINIAS, a Cretan; MEGILLUS,
  23 1    |              a Lacedaemonian~Athenian Stranger. Tell me, Strangers, is
  24 1    |           your laws?~Cleinias. A God, Stranger; in very truth a, God: among
  25 1    |          conversation.~Cleinias. Yes, Stranger, and if we proceed onward
  26 1    |              arms.~Cleinias. I think, Stranger, that the aim of our institutions
  27 1    |           Athenian. You appear to me, Stranger, to have been thoroughly
  28 1    |             say?~Cleinias. O Athenian Stranger—inhabitant of Attica I will
  29 1    |                Cleinias. Your remark, Stranger, is a paradox, and yet we
  30 1    |               Cleinias. What you say, Stranger, is most true.~Megillus.
  31 1    |          suppose that there is truth, Stranger, in that remark of yours;
  32 1    |           only fourth rate.~Cleinias. Stranger, we are degrading our inspired
  33 1    |               You ought to have said, Stranger—The Cretan laws are with
  34 1    |         ambition. This is the spirit, Stranger, in which I was and am desirous
  35 1    |       Cleinias. How shall we proceed, Stranger?~Athenian. I think that
  36 1    |            Excellent, O Lacedaemonian Stranger. But how ought we to define
  37 1    |               I was able to tell you, Stranger, many laws which were directed
  38 1    |             are quite right, Athenian Stranger, and we will do as you say.~
  39 1    |        present.~Cleinias. Exactly so, Stranger; and like a diviner, although
  40 1    |             seems to be a difficulty, Stranger, with regard to states,
  41 1    |             happy.~Megillus. I admit, Stranger, that your words are well
  42 1    |             Athenian. O Lacedaemonian Stranger, these festivities are praiseworthy
  43 1    |              from impropriety. When a stranger expresses wonder at the
  44 1    |             answer him:—Wonder not, O stranger; this is our custom, and
  45 1    |           Cleinias. What do you mean, Stranger, by this remark? Explain;
  46 1    |             last remark is very true, Stranger; and I see quite clearly
  47 1    |            the Gods not given to man, Stranger; but I shall be very happy
  48 1    |               Cleinias. Your opinion, Stranger, about the questions which
  49 1    |             law?~Megillus. O Athenian Stranger, let me tell you what perhaps
  50 1    |           have to say.~Cleinias. Yes, Stranger; and when you have heard
  51 1    |           child?~Cleinias. Well said, Stranger.~Athenian. Is there any
  52 1    |               But has such a draught, Stranger, ever really been known
  53 1    |        Cleinias. He would be certain, Stranger, to use the potion.~Athenian.
  54 1    |            the potion.~Cleinias. Yes, Stranger, in that last case, too,
  55 2    |                      BOOK II~Athenian Stranger. And now we have to consider
  56 2    |         education.~Cleinias. I think, Stranger, that you are quite right
  57 2    |          There is a great difference, Stranger, in the two kinds of education.~
  58 2    |            But do you really imagine, Stranger, that this is the way in
  59 2    |         voluntarily.~Cleinias. Truth, Stranger, is a noble thing and a
  60 2    |              compose the third choir, Stranger? for I do not clearly understand
  61 2    |              strain?~Cleinias. Truly, Stranger, we of Crete and Lacedaemon
  62 2    |          states.~Cleinias. Once more, Stranger, I must complain that you
  63 2    |               this were not required, Stranger, we should all of us be
  64 2    |             the body.~Cleinias. That, Stranger, is precisely what was said.~
  65 2    |          their employments. And this, Stranger, shall be the crown of my
  66 3    |                     BOOK III~Athenian Stranger. Enough of this. And what,
  67 3    |                Megillus. If some God, Stranger, would promise us that our
  68 3    |       argument.~Cleinias. Pray go on, Stranger;—compliments are troublesome,
  69 3    |          states. You will understand, Stranger, that I am speaking of something
  70 3    |           Megillus. What do you mean, Stranger?~Athenian. I suppose that
  71 3    |               of our words?~Cleinias. Stranger, I think that I see how
  72 4    |                      BOOK IV~Athenian Stranger. And now, what will this
  73 4    |           Cleinias. I should imagine, Stranger, that the city of which
  74 4    |         Cleinias. Excellent harbours, Stranger; there could not be better.~
  75 4    |           possible, I admit; and yet, Stranger, we Cretans are in the habit
  76 4    |         companion virtue of which the Stranger speaks, must be temperance?~
  77 4    |              what possible arguments, Stranger, can any man persuade himself
  78 4    |            should.~Megillus. And yet, Stranger, I perceive that I cannot
  79 4    |              confer.~Cleinias. Truly, Stranger, you see with the keen vision
  80 4    |               Cleinias. I should say, Stranger, that the double way is
  81 4    |           Megillus. The shorter form, Stranger, would be more in accordance
  82 4    |          think is most true. And now, Stranger, without delay let us return
  83 5    |                       BOOK V~Athenian Stranger. Listen, all ye who have
  84 5    |             done to citizens; for the stranger, having no kindred and friends,
  85 5    |             genius and the god of the stranger, who follow in the train
  86 5    |           without sinning against the stranger. And of offences committed,
  87 5    |              and in what concerns the stranger. We will now consider what
  88 5    |        Cleinias. Your words, Athenian Stranger, are excellent, and I will
  89 6    |                      BOOK VI~Athenian Stranger. And now having made an
  90 6    |           thing.~Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger.~Athenian. Yes; and I will
  91 6    |               you.~Cleinias. But why, Stranger, do not you and Megillus
  92 6    |            bonds, if he be a slave or stranger; but if he be a citizen
  93 6    |              like what you have said, Stranger—and I particularly like
  94 6    |        recollect at the right moment, Stranger, and do not miss the opportunity
  95 6    |        Megillus. I do not understand, Stranger, what you mean.~Athenian.
  96 6    |             to do in our own country, Stranger, seeing that there are,
  97 6    |          Cleinias. What is the cause, Stranger, of this extreme hesitation?~
  98 6    |               both of us like better, Stranger, than to hear what you have
  99 6    |              very pertinent question, Stranger.~Athenian. And therefore
 100 6    |            shall be sure to remember, Stranger.~Athenian. Very good. Then
 101 7    |        Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Stranger. Am I not right in maintaining
 102 7    |           nourishment?~Cleinias. But, Stranger, are we to impose this great
 103 7    |             of music.~Cleinias. Well, Stranger, and what is the reason
 104 7    |       cheerful?~Cleinias. To be sure, Stranger—more especially if we could
 105 7    |               need not, ask Megillus, Stranger, which of us has most truly
 106 7    |             Cleinias. It is not easy, Stranger, to put aside these principles
 107 7    |       Cleinias. What have you to say, Stranger?~Athenian. I say that in
 108 7    |      perplexity.~Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger; let us do as you propose.~
 109 7    |               low opinion of mankind, Stranger.~Athenian. Nay, Megillus,
 110 7    |              has been asserted by us, Stranger is contrary to the custom
 111 7    |            Cleinias? Shall we allow a stranger to run down Sparta in this
 112 7    |          Cleinias. What troubles you, Stranger? and why are you so perplexed
 113 7    |             Cleinias. I do not think, Stranger, that we have wandered out
 114 7    |             Such a want of education, Stranger, is certainly an unseemly
 115 7    |               of knowledge are there, Stranger, which are divine and not
 116 7    |           contend.~Cleinias. I think, Stranger, that what you have now
 117 7    |             them.~Cleinias. You seem, Stranger, to be afraid of our habitual
 118 7    |            Cleinias. About what? Say, Stranger, what you mean.~Athenian.
 119 7    |        Assuredly: but may we not now, Stranger, prescribe these studies
 120 7    |       wanderers.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; and in the course of my
 121 8    |                    BOOK VIII~Athenian Stranger. Next, with the help of
 122 8    |             The way which you mention Stranger, would be the only way.~
 123 8    |        Cleinias. We are quite agreed, Stranger, that we should legislate
 124 8    |               Then that is one cause, Stranger; but you spoke of another.~
 125 8    |               Cleinias. What is this, Stranger, that you are saying? For
 126 8    |          Megillus?~Megillus. I think, Stranger, that you are perfectly
 127 8    |              to be, as he truly is, a stranger. Let this law, then, whether
 128 8    |             Megillus. I, for my part, Stranger, would gladly receive this
 129 8    |               we had better allow the Stranger to proceed with his laws.~
 130 8    |         extremity of the land, of any stranger who is conterminous with
 131 8    |              god of strangers, of the stranger, and when aroused, terrible
 132 8    |               may gather it; but if a stranger is passing along the road,
 133 8    |            blows. Of these fruits the stranger may partake, just as he
 134 8    |               spot, let him, like the stranger, be allowed to partake of
 135 8    |              right course; and if any stranger profess two arts, let them
 136 8    |         slaves, nor again that of the stranger; but let the distribution
 137 8    |              portion of the corn;—the stranger shall purchase corn for
 138 8    |             of a citizen; but let the stranger sell them in the market
 139 8    |               their servants. Let any stranger who likes buy fuel from
 140 9    |         Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian Stranger. There is a sense of disgrace
 141 9    |          temples, if he be a slave or stranger, shall have his evil deed
 142 9    |         Cleinias. What makes you say, Stranger, that a theft is all one,
 143 9    |              is something ridiculous, Stranger, in our proposing such an
 144 9    |            just.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger.~Athenian. Then now, Cleinias,
 145 9    |             Megillus, say to me—Well, Stranger, if all this be as you say,
 146 9    |           crime?~Cleinias. Very good, Stranger; and what shall we say in
 147 9    |           Cleinias. I agree with you, Stranger; for one of two things is
 148 9    |            them.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; there cannot be two opinions
 149 9    |              And if the dead man be a stranger, the homicide shall be kept
 150 9    |               from the country of the stranger during a like period. If
 151 9    |                according to law. If a stranger unintentionally kill a stranger
 152 9    |       stranger unintentionally kill a stranger who is dwelling in the city,
 153 9    |           year, or if he be an entire stranger, in addition to the purification,
 154 9    |               whether he have slain a stranger, or a metic, or a citizen,
 155 9    |        returns, let him suffer as the stranger was to suffer in a similar
 156 9    |          citizen kill a citizen, or a stranger a stranger. Or if a stranger
 157 9    |              citizen, or a stranger a stranger. Or if a stranger kill a
 158 9    |          stranger a stranger. Or if a stranger kill a citizen or a citizen
 159 9    |              a citizen or a citizen a stranger in self–defence, let him
 160 9    |             the former; and whether a stranger shall kill a citizen, or
 161 9    |               citizen, or a citizen a stranger, or a slave a slave, there
 162 9    |           shall keep his hands from a stranger, whether he be an old inhabitant
 163 9    |                If he thinks that some stranger has struck him out of wantonness
 164 9    |              not strike him, that the stranger may be kept far away from
 165 9    |            Strangers, and in case the stranger appears to have struck the
 166 9    |              shall be final. But if a stranger or metic smite one who is
 167 9    |               such a suit, if he be a stranger but not resident, shall
 168 9    |        already said, and the metic or stranger who comes to the rescue
 169 9    |           strike a freeman, whether a stranger or a citizen, let any one
 170 10   |               these persons?~Athenian Stranger. My good friend, let us
 171 10   |              pleasure.~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, what other reason is there?~
 172 10   |         Cleinias. One such teacher, O Stranger, would be bad enough, and
 173 10   |            enactments.~Cleinias. Yes, Stranger; but then how often have
 174 10   |                Cleinias. Our address, Stranger, thus far, is excellent.~
 175 10   |              What a dreadful picture, Stranger, have you given, and how
 176 10   |             as he can?~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, if such persuasion be at
 177 10   |               of time?~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, shall we, whose patience
 178 10   |               of his power.~Megillus. Stranger, I like what Cleinias is
 179 10   |            Cleinias. Do not hesitate, Stranger; I see that you are afraid
 180 10   |            body.~Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger, and I hope that you will
 181 10   |               Some one says to me, “O Stranger, are all things at rest
 182 10   |              from what has been said, Stranger, there would be impiety
 183 10   |               Gods?~Cleinias. No one, Stranger, would be such a madman.~
 184 10   |               Certainly—quite enough, Stranger.~Athenian. Then to them
 185 10   |        greater only.~Cleinias. Never, Stranger, let us admit a supposition
 186 11   |               a freedman or any other stranger has a property greater than
 187 11   |            been delivered to him by a stranger, within five months, of
 188 11   |            What do you mean?~Athenian Stranger. Dear Cleinias, the class
 189 11   |           must be either a metic or a stranger. And a third law shall be:—
 190 11   |           Cleinias. What do you mean, Stranger?~Athenian. O Cleinias, a
 191 11   |               fortune!~Cleinias. Well Stranger, and may he not very fairly
 192 11   |              them.~Cleinias. And how, Stranger, can we act most fairly
 193 11   |             of money, in case he be a stranger, he shall leave the country,
 194 12   |           convict in a court of law a stranger or a slave of a theft of
 195 12   |             also a good one?~Athenian Stranger. In this way: In the first
 196 12   |                In the next place, the stranger who comes from abroad should
 197 12   |           they shall take care that a stranger, whoever he be, duly receives
 198 12   |              agora. The third kind of stranger is he who comes on some
 199 12   |           Cleinias. That is very good Stranger; but I wish you would tell
 200 12   |               I am not quite certain, Stranger; but I have a suspicion
 201 12   |          things look.~Cleinias. Then, Stranger, our former assertion will
 202 12   |             you?~Cleinias. We cannot, Stranger.~Athenian. Well, but ought
 203 12   |       guardian power?~Cleinias. What, Stranger, is the drift of your comparison?~
 204 12   |              I bow to your authority, Stranger; let us proceed in the way
 205 12   |                Cleinias. We must not, Stranger, by the God of strangers
 206 12   |              help.~Cleinias. I agree, Stranger, that we should proceed
 207 12   |               What then are we to do, Stranger, under these circumstances?~
 208 12   |             either we must detain the Stranger, and by supplications and


Lysis
     Part
 209 Text |            and dogs of chase, and the stranger of another land’?~I do not


Meno
     Part
 210 Text |               in your face, and say: ‘Stranger, you have far too good an
 211 Text |              mine, whether citizen or stranger, will ever be so mad as
 212 Text |           drive them out, citizen and stranger alike.~SOCRATES: Has any


Parmenides
     Part
 213 Intro|            has ascribed to an Eleatic stranger in the Sophist opinions
 214 Intro|             Eleatics. But the Eleatic stranger expressly criticises the
 215 Text |               I think that there is a stranger consequence still.~What


Phaedo
     Part
 216 Text |              is a long time since any stranger from Athens has found his


Phaedrus
     Part
 217 Intro|          philosopher is regarded as a stranger and monster upon the earth.
 218 Text |              you really are like some stranger who is led about by a guide.
 219 Text |              not in the bright sun, a stranger to manly exercises and the
 220 Text |            there is Hippias the Elean stranger, who probably agrees with
 221 Text |            simple person, and quite a stranger to the oracles of Thamus


Protagoras
     Part
 222 Text |                COMPANION: And is this stranger really in your opinion a
 223 Text |  consideration of me. For certainly a stranger finding his way into great
 224 Text |               good, whether friend or stranger. Now I, Protagoras, having


The Republic
     Book
 225 2    |               dog, whenever he sees a stranger, is angry; when an acquaintance,
 226 5    |          interest, and the other as a stranger in whom he has no interest? ~
 227 5    |               any other guardian as a stranger? ~Certainly he would not;
 228 8    |               with the metic, and the stranger is quite as good as either. ~
 229 10   |        miserable are flouted alike by stranger and citizen; they are beaten,


The Sophist
     Part
 230 Intro|    substitution for him of an Eleatic stranger, who is described as a pupil
 231 Intro|              character of the Eleatic stranger is colourless; he is to
 232 Intro|               likening of the Eleatic stranger to a god from heaven.—All
 233 Intro|           Platonic art in the Eleatic Stranger eliciting his true character
 234 Intro|         bringing with them an Eleatic Stranger, whom Theodorus introduces
 235 Intro|           them as one, or three?’~The Stranger has been already asked the
 236 Text |      Theaetetus, Socrates. An Eleatic Stranger, whom Theodorus and Theaetetus
 237 Text |                and we bring with us a stranger from Elea, who is a disciple
 238 Text |               us in the disguise of a stranger? For Homer says that all
 239 Text |        THEODORUS: I dare say that the Stranger will not object to discuss
 240 Text |            question. What do you say, Stranger?~STRANGER: I am far from
 241 Text |            What do you say, Stranger?~STRANGER: I am far from objecting,
 242 Text |                SOCRATES: Then do not, Stranger, deny us the first favour
 243 Text |             in years. (Compare Parm.)~STRANGER: I prefer to talk with another
 244 Text |         preference for some one else.~STRANGER: I feel ashamed, Socrates,
 245 Text |         THEAETETUS: But are you sure, Stranger, that this will be quite
 246 Text |         company as Socrates imagines?~STRANGER: You hear them applauding,
 247 Text |           accustomed to work with me.~STRANGER: Very good; you can decide
 248 Text |          THEAETETUS: Indeed I cannot.~STRANGER: Then suppose that we work
 249 Text |            greater?~THEAETETUS: Good.~STRANGER: What is there which is
 250 Text |                THEAETETUS: He is not.~STRANGER: Yet I suspect that he will
 251 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: Let us begin by asking
 252 Text |              is clearly a man of art.~STRANGER: And of arts there are two
 253 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: There is agriculture, and
 254 Text |           mean? And what is the name?~STRANGER: He who brings into existence
 255 Text |           produced.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And all the arts which
 256 Text |      producing?~THEAETETUS: They are.~STRANGER: Then let us sum them up
 257 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: Next follows the whole
 258 Text |              that is the proper name.~STRANGER: Seeing, then, that all
 259 Text |             in the acquisitive class.~STRANGER: And the acquisitive may
 260 Text |        implied in what has been said.~STRANGER: And may not conquest be
 261 Text |          subdivided?~THEAETETUS: How?~STRANGER: Open force may be called
 262 Text |             hunting?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And there is no reason
 263 Text |          would you make the division?~STRANGER: Into the hunting of living
 264 Text |             Yes, if both kinds exist.~STRANGER: Of course they exist; but
 265 Text |             hunting.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And animal hunting may
 266 Text |               swim?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And of swimming animals,
 267 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: Fowling is the general
 268 Text |           included.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: The hunting of animals
 269 Text |             fishing.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And this sort of hunting
 270 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: There is one kind which
 271 Text |              do you distinguish them?~STRANGER: As to the first kind—all
 272 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: For which reason twig baskets,
 273 Text |        enclosures’?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And therefore this first
 274 Text |           that sort?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: The other kind, which is
 275 Text |            suggest will do very well.~STRANGER: There is one mode of striking,
 276 Text |          firelight.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And the fishing by day
 277 Text |                Yes, that is the term.~STRANGER: Of this barb-fishing, that
 278 Text |                it is often called so.~STRANGER: Then now there is only
 279 Text |             THEAETETUS: What is that?~STRANGER: When a hook is used, and
 280 Text |             the object of our search.~STRANGER: Then now you and I have
 281 Text |           satisfactorily brought out.~STRANGER: And now, following this
 282 Text |             THEAETETUS: By all means.~STRANGER: The first question about
 283 Text |          unskilled?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And shall we call our new
 284 Text |            surely express his nature.~STRANGER: Then he must be supposed
 285 Text |            art.~THEAETETUS: What art?~STRANGER: By heaven, they are cousins!
 286 Text |          THEAETETUS: Who are cousins?~STRANGER: The angler and the Sophist.~
 287 Text |            what way are they related?~STRANGER: They both appear to me
 288 Text |             the other we have spoken.~STRANGER: You remember our division
 289 Text |             animals?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And you remember that we
 290 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: Thus far, then, the Sophist
 291 Text |       THEAETETUS: So it would appear.~STRANGER: Their paths diverge when
 292 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: While the other goes to
 293 Text |         THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER: Of hunting on land there
 294 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: One is the hunting of tame,
 295 Text |             tame animals ever hunted?~STRANGER: Yes, if you include man
 296 Text |             THEAETETUS: I should say, Stranger, that man is a tame animal,
 297 Text |              admit that he is hunted.~STRANGER: Then let us divide the
 298 Text |           shall we make the division?~STRANGER: Let us define piracy, man-stealing,
 299 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: But the art of the lawyer,
 300 Text |         persuasion.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And of persuasion, there
 301 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: One is private, and the
 302 Text |           each of them forms a class.~STRANGER: And of private hunting,
 303 Text |              I do not understand you.~STRANGER: You seem never to have
 304 Text |     THEAETETUS: To what do you refer?~STRANGER: I mean that they lavish
 305 Text |                THEAETETUS: Most true.~STRANGER: Let us admit this, then,
 306 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: But that sort of hireling
 307 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And that sort, which professes
 308 Text |               THEAETETUS: To be sure.~STRANGER: And what is the name? Will
 309 Text |              for the class described.~STRANGER: Then now, Theaetetus, his
 310 Text |      conclusion.~THEAETETUS: Just so.~STRANGER: Let us take another branch
 311 Text |          THEAETETUS: In what respect?~STRANGER: There were two sorts of
 312 Text |               THEAETETUS: There were.~STRANGER: And of the art of exchange
 313 Text |       THEAETETUS: Let us assume that.~STRANGER: Next, we will suppose the
 314 Text |               parts.~THEAETETUS: How?~STRANGER: There is one part which
 315 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And is not that part of
 316 Text |           retailing?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And that which exchanges
 317 Text |               THEAETETUS: To be sure.~STRANGER: And you are aware that
 318 Text |         THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER: You want to know what is
 319 Text |          understand.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Take music in general and
 320 Text |        THEAETETUS: To be sure he may.~STRANGER: And would you not call
 321 Text |       THEAETETUS: Certainly I should.~STRANGER: Of this merchandise of
 322 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: The latter should have
 323 Text |                THEAETETUS: Of course.~STRANGER: The name of art-seller
 324 Text |           name can possibly be right.~STRANGER: No other; and so this trader
 325 Text |               THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: And there may be a third
 326 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: Then that part of the acquisitive
 327 Text |               pace with the argument.~STRANGER: Let us consider once more
 328 Text |               THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: In the acquisitive there
 329 Text |                THEAETETUS: There was.~STRANGER: Perhaps we had better divide
 330 Text |               shall be the divisions?~STRANGER: There shall be one division
 331 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: That part of the pugnacious
 332 Text |            violent.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And when the war is one
 333 Text |         controversy?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And controversy may be
 334 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: When long speeches are
 335 Text |         controversy.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And there is a private
 336 Text |                Yes, that is the name.~STRANGER: And of disputation, that
 337 Text |             minute and heterogeneous.~STRANGER: But that which proceeds
 338 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And of argumentation, one
 339 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: Suppose we try and give
 340 Text |             THEAETETUS: Let us do so.~STRANGER: I should say that the habit
 341 Text |               the common name for it.~STRANGER: But now who the other is,
 342 Text |            again for the fourth time.~STRANGER: Yes, and with a fresh pedigree,
 343 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: How true was the observation
 344 Text |              must catch him with two.~STRANGER: Yes, we must, if we can.
 345 Text |            which of them do you mean?~STRANGER: I mean such as sifting,
 346 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And besides these there
 347 Text |            going to do with them all?~STRANGER: I think that in all of
 348 Text |            division.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Then if, as I was saying,
 349 Text |               is the name of the art?~STRANGER: The art of discerning or
 350 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very good.~STRANGER: Think whether you cannot
 351 Text |           have to think a long while.~STRANGER: In all the previously named
 352 Text |              I see now what you mean.~STRANGER: There is no name for the
 353 Text |               THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: Every discernment or discrimination
 354 Text |              is the usual expression.~STRANGER: And any one may see that
 355 Text |               not see at this moment.~STRANGER: There are many purifications
 356 Text |               and what is their name?~STRANGER: There is the purification
 357 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: There can be no doubt that
 358 Text |              concerned with the body.~STRANGER: Excellent; and now listen
 359 Text |              endeavour to assist you.~STRANGER: Do we admit that virtue
 360 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And purification was to
 361 Text |             is bad?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then any taking away of
 362 Text |        purification?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And in the soul there are
 363 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: The one may be compared
 364 Text |      THEAETETUS: I do not understand.~STRANGER: Perhaps you have never
 365 Text |              not what I should reply.~STRANGER: Do you not conceive discord
 366 Text |                THEAETETUS: Just that.~STRANGER: And is deformity anything
 367 Text |       unsightly?~THEAETETUS: Exactly.~STRANGER: And do we not see that
 368 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And yet they must all be
 369 Text |                THEAETETUS: Of course.~STRANGER: Then we shall be right
 370 Text |                THEAETETUS: Most true.~STRANGER: And when things having
 371 Text |              of the want of symmetry.~STRANGER: But surely we know that
 372 Text |            THEAETETUS: Certainly not.~STRANGER: And what is ignorance but
 373 Text |          perverted?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: Then we are to regard an
 374 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: Then there are these two
 375 Text |              soul...~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And there is the other,
 376 Text |           varieties, to be deformity.~STRANGER: And in the case of the
 377 Text |            THEAETETUS: What are they?~STRANGER: There is gymnastic, which
 378 Text |            disease.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And where there is insolence
 379 Text |               the opinion of mankind.~STRANGER: Again, of the various kinds
 380 Text |             remedy?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And of the art of instruction,
 381 Text |            Think.~THEAETETUS: I will.~STRANGER: I believe that I can see
 382 Text |            question.~THEAETETUS: How?~STRANGER: If we can discover a line
 383 Text |             what you are looking for?~STRANGER: I do seem to myself to
 384 Text |               THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: When a person supposes
 385 Text |          intellect.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And this, if I am not mistaken,
 386 Text |          stupidity.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: What name, then, shall
 387 Text |           instruction which you mean, Stranger, is, I should imagine, not
 388 Text |               in this part the world.~STRANGER: Yes, Theaetetus, and by
 389 Text |        division.~THEAETETUS: We have.~STRANGER: I think that there is a
 390 Text |          possible.~THEAETETUS: Where?~STRANGER: Of education, one method
 391 Text |               to distinguish the two?~STRANGER: There is the time-honoured
 392 Text |         admonition.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: But whereas some appear
 393 Text |           There they are quite right.~STRANGER: Accordingly, they set to
 394 Text |              THEAETETUS: In what way?~STRANGER: They cross-examine a man’
 395 Text |             and wisest state of mind.~STRANGER: For all these reasons,
 396 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: And who are the ministers
 397 Text |            Sophists.~THEAETETUS: Why?~STRANGER: Lest we should assign to
 398 Text |             minister of purification.~STRANGER: Yes, the same sort of likeness
 399 Text |            THEAETETUS: Likely enough.~STRANGER: Let us grant, then, that
 400 Text |           real nature of the Sophist.~STRANGER: You naturally feel perplexed;
 401 Text |           upon him.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: First let us wait a moment
 402 Text |               youth.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: In the second place, he
 403 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: In the third place, he
 404 Text |          learned wares which he sold.~STRANGER: Quite right; I will try
 405 Text |        eristic art.~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: The sixth point was doubtful,
 406 Text |                THEAETETUS: Very true.~STRANGER: Do you not see that when
 407 Text |          imagine this to be the case.~STRANGER: At any rate we will understand
 408 Text |               what are you referring?~STRANGER: We were saying of him,
 409 Text |        disputer?~THEAETETUS: We were.~STRANGER: And does he not also teach
 410 Text |        THEAETETUS: Certainly he does.~STRANGER: And about what does he
 411 Text |            rate, he is said to do so.~STRANGER: And what do you say of
 412 Text |        teaches to dispute about them.~STRANGER: Then, again, in private
 413 Text |              THEAETETUS: Undoubtedly.~STRANGER: And do they not profess
 414 Text |               make these professions.~STRANGER: In all and every art, what
 415 Text |         wrestling and the other arts?~STRANGER: Yes, my friend, and about
 416 Text |               much which is left out.~STRANGER: But oh! my dear youth,
 417 Text |     understand your present question.~STRANGER: I ask whether anybody can
 418 Text |                THEAETETUS: He cannot.~STRANGER: Then why has the sophistical
 419 Text |     THEAETETUS: To what do you refer?~STRANGER: How do the Sophists make
 420 Text |             They certainly would not.~STRANGER: But they are willing.~THEAETETUS:
 421 Text |            THEAETETUS: Yes, they are.~STRANGER: Yes, and the reason, as
 422 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And they dispute about
 423 Text |             things?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: And therefore, to their
 424 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: But they are not; for that
 425 Text |                Impossible, of course.~STRANGER: Then the Sophist has been
 426 Text |    description of him could be given.~STRANGER: Let us now take an illustration,
 427 Text |               THEAETETUS: What is it?~STRANGER: I will tell you, and you
 428 Text |               THEAETETUS: All things?~STRANGER: I see that you do not understand
 429 Text |             THEAETETUS: No, I do not.~STRANGER: Under all things, I include
 430 Text |         THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER: Suppose a person to say
 431 Text |             he is a maker of animals.~STRANGER: Yes; and I say that he
 432 Text |      THEAETETUS: That must be a jest.~STRANGER: And when a man says that
 433 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And is there any more artistic
 434 Text |              diverse sorts of things.~STRANGER: We know, of course, that
 435 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And may there not be supposed
 436 Text |              not be another such art?~STRANGER: But as time goes on, and
 437 Text |            things at a distance only.~STRANGER: And the wish of all of
 438 Text |           THEAETETUS: But how can he, Stranger? Is there any doubt, after
 439 Text |         divisions of children’s play?~STRANGER: Then we must place him
 440 Text |        THEAETETUS: Certainly we must.~STRANGER: And now our business is
 441 Text |             THEAETETUS: What is that?~STRANGER: The inference that he is
 442 Text |      Precisely my own opinion of him.~STRANGER: Then, clearly, we ought
 443 Text |             let us do as you propose.~STRANGER: Well, then, pursuing the
 444 Text |               which you are speaking?~STRANGER: One is the art of likeness-making;—
 445 Text |          always the aim of imitation?~STRANGER: Not always; in works either
 446 Text |               THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: And that which being other
 447 Text |               image?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And may we not, as I did
 448 Text |     THEAETETUS: Let that be the name.~STRANGER: And what shall we call
 449 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: There is a great deal of
 450 Text |                THEAETETUS: Of course.~STRANGER: And may we not fairly call
 451 Text |              THEAETETUS: Most fairly.~STRANGER: These then are the two
 452 Text |        appearances?~THEAETETUS: True.~STRANGER: I was doubtful before in
 453 Text |              THEAETETUS: Yes, he has.~STRANGER: Do you speak advisedly,
 454 Text |               what you are referring?~STRANGER: My dear friend, we are
 455 Text |       difficult one.~THEAETETUS: Why?~STRANGER: He who says that falsehood
 456 Text |              should take me with you.~STRANGER: Very good; and now say,
 457 Text |          THEAETETUS: Certainly we do.~STRANGER: Let us be serious then,
 458 Text |              by a person like myself.~STRANGER: There is at any rate no
 459 Text |          THEAETETUS: None, certainly.~STRANGER: And if not to being, then
 460 Text |            THEAETETUS: Of course not.~STRANGER: It is also plain, that
 461 Text |               THEAETETUS: Impossible.~STRANGER: You mean by assenting to
 462 Text |               thing?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: Some in the singular (ti)
 463 Text |            many?~THEAETETUS: Exactly.~STRANGER: Then he who says ‘not something’
 464 Text |           THEAETETUS: Most assuredly.~STRANGER: And as we cannot admit
 465 Text |           argument can no further go.~STRANGER: Not yet, my friend, is
 466 Text |               not be afraid to speak.~STRANGER: To that which is, may be
 467 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: But can anything which
 468 Text |               THEAETETUS: Impossible.~STRANGER: And all number is to be
 469 Text |       anything, has a real existence.~STRANGER: Then we must not attempt
 470 Text |          should be wrong in doing so.~STRANGER: But how can a man either
 471 Text |               THEAETETUS: How indeed?~STRANGER: When we speak of things
 472 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: But, on the other hand,
 473 Text |               THEAETETUS: Manifestly.~STRANGER: Nevertheless, we maintain
 474 Text |                THEAETETUS: Most true.~STRANGER: Do you see, then, that
 475 Text |               THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: But, if so, I was wrong
 476 Text |               a greater still behind?~STRANGER: Well, I am surprised, after
 477 Text |             mean? Speak more clearly.~STRANGER: Do not expect clearness
 478 Text |          understand?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And a little while ago
 479 Text |     THEAETETUS: I do after a fashion.~STRANGER: When I introduced the word ‘
 480 Text |          before?~THEAETETUS: Clearly.~STRANGER: And in using the singular
 481 Text |              as one?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And when I spoke of not-being
 482 Text |                THEAETETUS: Certainly.~STRANGER: And yet we say that, strictly
 483 Text |               THEAETETUS: Quite true.~STRANGER: How, then, can any one
 484 Text |         THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER: Make a noble effort, as
 485 Text |             see you thus discomfited.~STRANGER: Say no more of ourselves;
 486 Text |                THEAETETUS: Most true.~STRANGER: And if we say to him that
 487 Text |       pictures, and other duplicates.~STRANGER: I see, Theaetetus, that
 488 Text |      THEAETETUS: Why do you think so?~STRANGER: He will make believe to
 489 Text |         THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~STRANGER: When you tell him of something
 490 Text |         THEAETETUS: What can he mean?~STRANGER: The common notion pervading
 491 Text |         against him?~THEAETETUS: How, Stranger, can I describe an image
 492 Text |             the likeness of the true?~STRANGER: And do you mean this something
 493 Text |               but only a resemblance.~STRANGER: And you mean by true that
 494 Text |           really is?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~STRANGER: And the not true is that
 495 Text |            true?~THEAETETUS: Exactly.~STRANGER: A resemblance, then, is
 496 Text |             it is in a certain sense.~STRANGER: You mean to say, not in
 497 Text |             in reality only an image.~STRANGER: Then what we call an image
 498 Text |            not-being we are involved!~STRANGER: Strange! I should think
 499 Text |       THEAETETUS: Yes, indeed, I see.~STRANGER: The difficulty is how to
 500 Text |            where does the danger lie?~STRANGER: When we say that he deceives