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501 4 | state?~Cleinias. Quite so.~Athenian. Then let me first give
502 4 | Cleinias. Thank you, Megillus.~Athenian. Whether, in the abstract,
503 4 | laws.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. A point arising out of
504 4 | the form which you advise.~Athenian. I think that you are right,
505 4 | through the laws themselves.~Athenian. I understand you to mean
506 4 | day?~Cleinias. Exactly.~Athenian. After this, as is meet
507 5 | BOOK V~Athenian Stranger. Listen, all ye
508 5 | country.~Cleinias. Your words, Athenian Stranger, are excellent,
509 6 | BOOK VI~Athenian Stranger. And now having
510 6 | magistracies.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. In the ordering of a state
511 6 | What have you got to say?~Athenian. This is what I have to
512 6 | them.~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. Then now, my friend, let
513 6 | magistrates?~Cleinias. Impossible.~Athenian. The matter is serious,
514 6 | Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger.~Athenian. Yes; and I will be as good
515 6 | means do as you propose.~Athenian. That we will, by the grace
516 6 | But God will be gracious.~Athenian. Yes; and under his guidance
517 6 | point.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. Let us remember what a
518 6 | mind when you said that?~Athenian. I had in my mind the free
519 6 | reasonable supposition.~Athenian. Then let us consider if
520 6 | devise of electing them?~Athenian. This will be the method:—
521 6 | a part in our new city?~Athenian. O, Cleinias, Athens is
522 6 | Cleinias. That is very true.~Athenian. Then let us recognize the
523 6 | expedient.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. I maintain that this colony
524 6 | To be sure there ought.~Athenian. Let us assume, then, that
525 6 | the end of the former one.~Athenian. Thus far, then, the old
526 6 | serious and noble pursuit?~Athenian. Perhaps; but I should like
527 6 | Cleinias. About what thing?~Athenian. You know. the endless labour
528 6 | acquaintance with the art.~Athenian. No matter; we may make
529 6 | short time?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And is not the aim of the
530 6 | every one would desire.~Athenian. And if any one possesses
531 6 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. And is not this what you
532 6 | Cleinias. What have we to do?~Athenian. As we are about to legislate
533 6 | Cleinias. Certainly; if we can.~Athenian. At any rate, we must do
534 6 | best.~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. We will say to them—O friends
535 6 | saying a word in season.~Athenian. I thank you. We will say
536 6 | Stranger, what you mean.~Athenian. I am not surprised, Megillus,
537 6 | known.~Megillus. To be sure.~Athenian. But may we not also say
538 6 | slaves by their owners?~Athenian. Well, Cleinias, there can
539 6 | Cleinias. That is obvious.~Athenian. He is a troublesome piece
540 6 | masters.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Now that each of the citizens
541 6 | dwellings.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. The city being new and
542 6 | outline.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. The temples are to be placed
543 6 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Assuming that marriages
544 6 | Cleinias.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. He who imagines that he
545 6 | Cleinias. Likely enough.~Athenian. I said that there may have
546 6 | this extreme hesitation?~Athenian. You shall hear without
547 6 | hear what you have to say.~Athenian. Very good; and you must
548 6 | of law.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then let us return once
549 6 | ago.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Well, and have there not
550 6 | themselves?~Cleinias. No doubt.~Athenian. And may we not suppose
551 6 | do still?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Again, the practice of
552 6 | and is very likely true.~Athenian. Some one might say to us,
553 6 | pertinent question, Stranger.~Athenian. And therefore I will endeavour,
554 6 | inference.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. I see that among men all
555 6 | them.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let us keep in mind the
556 6 | you bid us keep in mind?~Athenian. That which we comprehended
557 6 | sure to remember, Stranger.~Athenian. Very good. Then let us
558 6 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. The bride and bridegroom
559 7 | saying.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Stranger. Am I not right
560 7 | Cleinias. Undoubtedly.~Athenian. And nothing can be plainer
561 7 | manner?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And do we not further observe
562 7 | at five.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Well, and is not rapid
563 7 | the body?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And the body should have
564 7 | upon newly–born infants?~Athenian. Nay, rather on the bodies
565 7 | the process of gestation?~Athenian. Exactly. I am not at all
566 7 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. The practice is more easy
567 7 | Cleinias. What penalty?~Athenian. Ridicule, and the difficulty
568 7 | speak of the matter at all?~Athenian. The reason is that masters
569 7 | Cleinias. Likely enough.~Athenian. And therefore let us proceed
570 7 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Let us assume, then, as
571 7 | what is the reason of this?~Athenian. The reason is obvious.~
572 7 | obvious.~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. The affection both of the
573 7 | treatment.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. But if fear has such a
574 7 | courage.~Cleinias. No doubt.~Athenian. And, on the other hand,
575 7 | courage.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And we may say that the
576 7 | soul.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Further, a cheerful temper,
577 7 | other.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. Then now we must endeavour
578 7 | young.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. There is a common opinion,
579 7 | any sort of instruction?~Athenian. I will tell you how:—Every
580 7 | animal.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Do not nurses, when they
581 7 | or well.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Does not the discontented
582 7 | be?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Well, but if during these
583 7 | a variety of pleasures.~Athenian. There I can no longer agree,
584 7 | right.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. The point about which you
585 7 | have been well answered?~Athenian. Very good, Cleinias; and
586 7 | point.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. That all the matters which
587 7 | disposed to agree with you.~Athenian. Up to the age of three
588 7 | Cleinias. In what respect?~Athenian. In that the right and left
589 7 | to enunciate better ones.~Athenian. Now we must say what has
590 7 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Let me tell you once more—
591 7 | have you to say, Stranger?~Athenian. I say that in states generally
592 7 | blaming antiquity in states?~Athenian. Exactly.~Cleinias. If you
593 7 | unfavourably but most favourably.~Athenian. I should expect so.~Cleinias.
594 7 | expect so.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Well, then, let us give
595 7 | prevision.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And now do we still hold
596 7 | doctrine which we can admit.~Athenian. Must we not, then, try
597 7 | pleasures.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Can any of us imagine a
598 7 | Cleinias. What is their method?~Athenian. To consecrate every sort
599 7 | likes.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. In the consideration of
600 7 | what are you referring?~Athenian. I mean that any young man,
601 7 | moment.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then we will allow time
602 7 | let us do as you propose.~Athenian. Let us then affirm the
603 7 | law.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Can any one who makes such
604 7 | kinsmen?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. And this is just what takes
605 7 | of song—~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. That we should avoid every
606 7 | the suffrages of us all.~Athenian. But what shall be our next
607 7 | sacrifice?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And our third law, if I
608 7 | ridiculous.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Were we not a little while
609 7 | state?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And what has it been the
610 7 | the law more precisely?~Athenian. Shall we make a law that
611 7 | it be so, by all means.~Athenian. Then it will be proper
612 7 | characters.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. In the next place there
613 7 | fitting.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But to honour with hymns
614 7 | worse.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Again, we must distinguish
615 7 | too.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I say that about serious
616 7 | Cleinias. In what respect?~Athenian. At present they think that
617 7 | opinion of mankind, Stranger.~Athenian. Nay, Megillus, be not amazed,
618 7 | would next wish to say.~Athenian. I should wish to say, Cleinias,
619 7 | life.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And what arrangement of
620 7 | legislation.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Then now I may proceed?~
621 7 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. What will be the manner
622 7 | perplexed in your mind?~Athenian. You naturally ask, Cleinias,
623 7 | refer in this instance?~Athenian. I will tell you. There
624 7 | many important enactments?~Athenian. That is quite true; and
625 7 | faint.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And I do not faint; I say,
626 7 | wrong.~Cleinias. Yes, I do.~Athenian. But how can I in one word
627 7 | guardian of the law to act?~Athenian. In what respect?~Cleinias.
628 7 | not shrink from answering.~Athenian. My good Cleinias, I rather
629 7 | fortunate.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. I think that I am not wholly
630 7 | cannot be very certain.~Athenian. The truth, Cleinias, may
631 7 | about laws.~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And now that we have done
632 7 | us.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I think that we have only
633 7 | Cleinias. To what do you refer?~Athenian. We were saying, if I remember
634 7 | imitation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And with this view, the
635 7 | Cleinias. That, again, is true.~Athenian. Then let him who has been
636 7 | they not?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. Then the boys ought to
637 7 | them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then once more let us summon
638 7 | attend to such great charges?~Athenian. O my friend, there will
639 7 | well as a great misfortune.~Athenian. Suppose that we carry our
640 7 | Cleinias. I quite agree.~Athenian. Of wrestling we have spoken
641 7 | wrestling.~Cleinias. Excellent.~Athenian. Enough of wrestling; we
642 7 | you put the matter thus.~Athenian. There still remain three
643 7 | are divine and not human?~Athenian. I conceive them to be those
644 7 | and agreeable to nature.~Athenian. Yes, Cleinias, that is
645 7 | prevent you from speaking out.~Athenian. I certainly am afraid of
646 7 | more fatal.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. All freemen, I conceive,
647 7 | of ignorance do you mean?~Athenian. O my dear Cleinias, I,
648 7 | Stranger, what you mean.~Athenian. I will; or rather I will
649 7 | is?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And what breadth is?~Cleinias.
650 7 | is?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And you know that these
651 7 | depth?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. And do not all these seem
652 7 | themselves?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. That is to say, length
653 7 | Cleinias. Undoubtedly.~Athenian. But if some things are
654 7 | Clearly, far from good.~Athenian. Concerning length and breadth
655 7 | way?~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But if they are absolutely
656 7 | distinction?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And there are other things
657 7 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. The natures of commensurable
658 7 | unlike a game of draughts.~Athenian. And these, as I maintain,
659 7 | say.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then if these studies are
660 7 | the lacunae of our laws?~Athenian. They shall be regarded
661 7 | Cleinias. A fair condition.~Athenian. Next let us see whether
662 7 | youth.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Here occurs a strange phenomenon,
663 7 | what are you referring?~Athenian. Men say that we ought not
664 7 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. Perhaps what I am saying
665 7 | notion about the stars?~Athenian. My good friends, at this
666 7 | Cleinias. Lies of what nature?~Athenian. We say that they and divers
667 7 | we all know that they do.~Athenian. Just so, Megillus and Cleinias;
668 7 | endeavour to understand you.~Athenian. There is some difficulty
669 7 | us as clearly as you can.~Athenian. I will. For, O my good
670 7 | ludicrous, I should say.~Athenian. At all events, the Gods
671 7 | true, if such is the fact.~Athenian. And if we can show that
672 7 | decision.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Enough of laws relating
673 8 | BOOK VIII~Athenian Stranger. Next, with the
674 8 | Cleinias. The number—yes.~Athenian. Then we will first determine
675 8 | would be the only way.~Athenian. And shall the warriors
676 8 | should practise them supposed~Athenian. And what is the reason
677 8 | legislators?~Cleinias. Perhaps.~Athenian. Certainly not, sweet Cleinias;
678 8 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. One cause is the love of
679 8 | his lusts.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Let this, then, be deemed
680 8 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. Must not they be truly
681 8 | but you spoke of another.~Athenian. Thank you for reminding
682 8 | tell me, what is the other?~Athenian. Do you imagine that I delay
683 8 | have a peculiar dislike.~Athenian. That is a very fair rebuke,
684 8 | cause.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. I say that governments
685 8 | our idea.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then next we must remember,
686 8 | swiftness.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Certainly the most military
687 8 | strength.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Neither of them can attain
688 8 | Cleinias. How can they?~Athenian. Then our herald, in accordance
689 8 | each.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let us suppose that there
690 8 | understand your meaning.~Athenian. Very likely; I will endeavour
691 8 | Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. Dear is the like in virtue
692 8 | love.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. The friendship which arises
693 8 | you have been now saying.~Athenian. I knew well, my friend,
694 8 | laws.~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. Upon reflection I see a
695 8 | Megillus. What do you mean?~Athenian. We are all aware that most
696 8 | Megillus. When do you mean?~Athenian. When any one has a brother
697 8 | them.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Does not a little word
698 8 | sort?~Megillus. What word?~Athenian. The declaration that they
699 8 | has a marvellous power.~Athenian. Am I not also right in
700 8 | same language about them?~Athenian. A good objection; but was
701 8 | difficult.~Megillus. Very true.~Athenian. Shall I try and find some
702 8 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Is a man more likely to
703 8 | when he is in training.~Athenian. And have we not heard of
704 8 | ancients of these athletes.~Athenian. And had they; courage to
705 8 | victory are you speaking?~Athenian. Of the victory over pleasure,
706 8 | mastered?~Cleinias. I dare say.~Athenian. And since we have reached
707 8 | pass if this one failed?~Athenian. Clearly, Cleinias, the
708 8 | Cleinias. What is that?~Athenian. Our citizens should not
709 8 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. The principle of piety,
710 8 | laws.~Megillus. Very good.~Athenian. We had got about as far
711 8 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean that the earth of
712 8 | worse.~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. Such being the case, let
713 9 | them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian Stranger. There is a sense
714 9 | predecessors!~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Once more let there be
715 9 | entirely different penalties?~Athenian. Excellent. I was running
716 9 | And would he not be right?~Athenian. Perhaps he would; and he
717 9 | observation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. But we are fortunate.~Cleinias.
718 9 | Cleinias. In what way?~Athenian. Inasmuch as we are not
719 9 | and others lie at hand.~Athenian. Certainly, in that case,
720 9 | consider.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. There are many writings
721 9 | persons.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. Shall we give heed rather
722 9 | them far above all others.~Athenian. And ought the legislator
723 9 | Cleinias. Certainly not.~Athenian. And is it disgraceful for
724 9 | Excellent; let us do as you say.~Athenian. Then we will now consider
725 9 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Concerning all things honourable
726 9 | which you observe in us?~Athenian. I will endeavour to explain.
727 9 | They would be quite right.~Athenian. Perhaps; but let us consider
728 9 | And what is the inference?~Athenian. The inference is, that
729 9 | honourable.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And must not a suffering
730 9 | carried out?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But then if we admit suffering
731 9 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. A thing not difficult to
732 9 | saying.~Cleinias. To what?~Athenian. We had enacted, if I am
733 9 | appears to be the case.~Athenian. In this discordant and
734 9 | Cleinias. Very true, Stranger.~Athenian. Then now, Cleinias, let
735 9 | Cleinias. Consistent in what?~Athenian. I think that I have clearly
736 9 | now state—~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. That all bad men are always
737 9 | inference.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. That the unjust man may
738 9 | answer to these objections?~Athenian. That is a very fair question.
739 9 | let us—~Cleinias. Do what?~Athenian. Let us remember what has
740 9 | truth of this statement.~Athenian. Of these two alternatives,
741 9 | among us upon that point.~Athenian. Reflect, then; there are
742 9 | involuntary.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I would not have any one
743 9 | friendship.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then as to unjust hurts (
744 9 | Cleinias. What direction?~Athenian. When any one commits any
745 9 | involuntary which enter into them?~Athenian. I will endeavour to do
746 9 | things.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And pleasure is not the
747 9 | things.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. A man may truly say that
748 9 | You are perfectly right.~Athenian. We all of us remark of
749 9 | true.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. But no one was ever yet
750 9 | ignorance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We are speaking of motives
751 9 | time.~Cleinias. Yes, often.~Athenian. And now I can define to
752 9 | Cleinias. Quite right.~Athenian. There was a second consisting
753 9 | What are the two kinds?~Athenian. There is one kind of actions
754 9 | severity.~Cleinias. Naturally.~Athenian. And now let us return from
755 9 | laws.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Let us proceed:—If any
756 9 | jealousies.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let us first speak, as
757 9 | is to be the inference?~Athenian. The inference is, that
758 9 | leave to courts of law?~Athenian. I may reply, that in a
759 10 | or do to these persons?~Athenian Stranger. My good friend,
760 10 | us.~Cleinias. What jests?~Athenian. They will make some irreverent
761 10 | the existence of the Gods?~Athenian. How would you prove it?~
762 10 | barbarians believe in them.~Athenian. I fear, my sweet friend,
763 10 | what other reason is there?~Athenian. One which you who live
764 10 | guess.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. A very grievous sort of
765 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. At Athens there are tales
766 10 | of them, which is worse.~Athenian. Well, then; what shall
767 10 | persuasion which we possess.~Athenian. Seeing you thus in earnest,
768 10 | thus far, is excellent.~Athenian. Quite true, Megillus and
769 10 | What doctrine do you mean?~Athenian. The wisest of all doctrines,
770 10 | you would speak plainer.~Athenian. The doctrine that all things
771 10 | Cleinias. Is not that true?~Athenian. Well, philosophers are
772 10 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. They say that the greatest
773 10 | Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. I will explain my meaning
774 10 | Cleinias. How do you mean?~Athenian. In the first place, my
775 10 | of states and families!~Athenian. True, Cleinias; but then
776 10 | agree with you in thinking.~Athenian. Yes, my enthusiastic Cleinias;
777 10 | what Cleinias is saying.~Athenian. Yes, Megillus, and we should
778 10 | proper champion of them.~Athenian. Well, then, tell me, Cleinias—
779 10 | means.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Then, by Heaven, we have
780 10 | to know how this happens.~Athenian. I fear that the argument
781 10 | take this way, my good sir.~Athenian. Then I suppose that I must
782 10 | I do not understand you.~Athenian. Nearly all of them, my
783 10 | body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then thought and attention
784 10 | the word “nature” wrong?~Athenian. Because those who use the
785 10 | Cleinias. You are quite right.~Athenian. Shall we, then, take this
786 10 | Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. Let us be on our guard
787 10 | will do as you propose.~Athenian. Come, then, and if ever
788 10 | Cleinias. Which are they?~Athenian. Just the two, with which
789 10 | Cleinias. Speak plainer.~Athenian. I suppose that our enquiry
790 10 | soul?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let us assume that there
791 10 | motion.~Cleinias. Granted.~Athenian. And we will assume that
792 10 | tenth.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And which of these ten
793 10 | superior to all the others.~Athenian. Very good; but may I make
794 10 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. When I spoke of the tenth
795 10 | Cleinias. What was the error?~Athenian. According to the true order,
796 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean this: when one thing
797 10 | true, and I quite agree.~Athenian. Or, to put the question
798 10 | take place in themselves.~Athenian. Then we must say that self–
799 10 | second.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. At this stage of the argument
800 10 | Cleinias. What question?~Athenian. If we were to see this
801 10 | self–moving power life?~Athenian. I do.~Cleinias. Certainly
802 10 | Cleinias. Certainly we should.~Athenian. And when we see soul in
803 10 | life?~Cleinias. We must.~Athenian. And now, I beseech you,
804 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean that we know the
805 10 | anything.~Cleinias. How two?~Athenian. Sometimes a person may
806 10 | this way.~Cleinias. How?~Athenian. Number like some other
807 10 | parts”?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. I mean, that when we are
808 10 | parts.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. And what is the definition
809 10 | which has the name soul?~Athenian. Yes; and if this is true,
810 10 | the oldest of all things.~Athenian. And is not that motion
811 10 | prefer?~Cleinias. Exactly.~Athenian. Then we are right, and
812 10 | Nothing can be more true.~Athenian. Do you remember our old
813 10 | body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then characters and manners,
814 10 | body.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. In the next place, must
815 10 | things?~Cleinias. We must.~Athenian. And as the soul orders
816 10 | heavens?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. One soul or more? More
817 10 | evil.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Yes, very true; the soul
818 10 | no room at all for doubt.~Athenian. Shall we say then that
819 10 | Cleinias. How would you answer?~Athenian. If, my friend, we say that
820 10 | good path.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But if the world moves
821 10 | it.~Cleinias. True again.~Athenian. Of what nature is the movement
822 10 | one.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then let us not answer
823 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. Let us select of the ten
824 10 | That will be excellent.~Athenian. You will surely remember
825 10 | motion?~Cleinias. I do.~Athenian. And that of things in motion
826 10 | than one?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. Of these two kinds of motion,
827 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. In saying that both mind
828 10 | It does us great credit.~Athenian. And the motion of the other
829 10 | Cleinias. That is most true.~Athenian. Then, after what has been
830 10 | carries round the heavens.~Athenian. You have understood my
831 10 | What are you going to ask?~Athenian. If the soul carries round
832 10 | them?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then of one of them let
833 10 | Cleinias. Which will you take?~Athenian. Every one sees the body
834 10 | Cleinias. What is that?~Athenian. If the soul carries round
835 10 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. Either the soul which moves
836 10 | one of these three ways.~Athenian. And this soul of the sun,
837 10 | least particle of sense.~Athenian. And of the stars too, and
838 10 | would be such a madman.~Athenian. And now, Megillus and Cleinias,
839 10 | him.~Cleinias. What terms?~Athenian. Either he shall teach us
840 10 | quite enough, Stranger.~Athenian. Then to them we will say
841 10 | help you as well as we can.~Athenian. There will probably be
842 10 | No doubt he heard that.~Athenian. Let us consider together
843 10 | vice?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Yes; and courage is a part
844 10 | of vice?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And the one is honourable,
845 10 | dishonourable?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And the one, like other
846 10 | what everybody will admit.~Athenian. But do we imagine carelessness
847 10 | Cleinias. Decidedly not.~Athenian. They rank under the opposite
848 10 | opposite class?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And their opposites, therefore,
849 10 | opposite class?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. But are we to suppose that
850 10 | comparison is a most just one.~Athenian. Surely God must not be
851 10 | not. How could he have?~Athenian. Should we not on any principle
852 10 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. Either he must think that
853 10 | Cleinias. Certainly not.~Athenian. Now, then, let us examine
854 10 | admit this?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And do you admit also that
855 10 | course, admit this also.~Athenian. And surely we three and
856 10 | perfect?~Cleinias. Assuredly.~Athenian. But, if they are such as
857 10 | indolence.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then not from inactivity
858 10 | Cleinias. That is very true.~Athenian. Then the alternative which
859 10 | Cleinias. There is none.~Athenian. And, O most excellent and
860 10 | pains?~Cleinias. Impossible.~Athenian. Do not all human things
861 10 | That is not to be denied.~Athenian. And we acknowledge that
862 10 | belongs?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And, therefore, whether
863 10 | consideration.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. Sensation and power are
864 10 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean that there is greater
865 10 | opposites.~Cleinias. Far more.~Athenian. Suppose the case of a physician
866 10 | Cleinias. Decidedly not well.~Athenian. No better would be the
867 10 | Cleinias. Of course not.~Athenian. Let us not, then, deem
868 10 | both impious and false.~Athenian. I think that we have now
869 10 | neglect.~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. He has been forced to acknowledge
870 10 | consolation will you offer him?~Athenian. Let us say to the youth:—
871 10 | In what way do you mean?~Athenian. In a way which may be supposed
872 10 | task.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. I will explain:—When the
873 10 | that is probably true.~Athenian. Then all things which have
874 10 | good; let us do as you say.~Athenian. Well, then, by the Gods
875 10 | heaven?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And to what earthly rulers
876 10 | injustice.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. What else can he say who
877 10 | Cleinias. Precisely so.~Athenian. And to which of the above–
878 10 | Cleinias. Assuredly not.~Athenian. And surely they are not
879 10 | fearful image of the Gods.~Athenian. Nor are they like generals,
880 10 | thing not to be spoken of.~Athenian. And are not all the Gods
881 10 | Cleinias. Yes; the chiefest.~Athenian. And shall we say that those
882 10 | wickedest and most impious.~Athenian. Then are the three assertions—
883 10 | entire assent to your words.~Athenian. I have spoken with vehemence
884 10 | discredit the lawgiver.~Athenian. After the prelude shall
885 11 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian Stranger. Dear Cleinias,
886 11 | What do you mean, Stranger?~Athenian. O Cleinias, a man when
887 11 | Cleinias. In what way?~Athenian. He wants to have the entire
888 11 | Cleinias. Such as what?~Athenian. O ye Gods, he will say,
889 11 | not very fairly say so?~Athenian. In my opinion, Cleinias,
890 11 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean, my friend that
891 11 | citizens.~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. O my friends, we will say
892 11 | under the circumstances?~Athenian. There must be arbiters
893 11 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. I mean to say, that a case
894 11 | the true mode of service?~Athenian. I will tell you, O my friend,
895 11 | listening to.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Oedipus, as tradition says,
896 11 | nature.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. May we not think, as I
897 11 | Gods.~Cleinias. Excellent.~Athenian. Every man of any understanding
898 12 | examination and also a good one?~Athenian Stranger. In this way: In
899 12 | more clearly what you mean.~Athenian. O Cleinias, many things
900 12 | them.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. The saying that Lachesis
901 12 | be implanted in anything.~Athenian. But it certainly can be;
902 12 | how is it to be effected?~Athenian. Were we not saying that
903 12 | before?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then, returning to the
904 12 | Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. Now is the time for me
905 12 | will fulfil your intention.~Athenian. Know, Cleinias, that everything,
906 12 | more, what do you mean?~Athenian. The well–being of those
907 12 | Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. The soul, besides other
908 12 | Cleinias. Yes, Quite so.~Athenian. Yes, indeed; but with what
909 12 | craft?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We do not want many illustrations
910 12 | salvation?~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Does not the general aim
911 12 | body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And a physician who is
912 12 | Cleinias. They cannot.~Athenian. And what would you say
913 12 | aim?~Cleinias. Impossible.~Athenian. And therefore, if our settlement
914 12 | chance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. In which, then, of the
915 12 | said was to meet at night.~Athenian. You understand me perfectly,
916 12 | aims.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Then now we shall see why
917 12 | rightly said to be virtue.~Athenian. Yes.~Cleinias. And we said
918 12 | virtue was of four kinds?~Athenian. Quite true.~Cleinias. And
919 12 | things ought to have regard?~Athenian. You follow me capitally,
920 12 | Cleinias. We cannot, Stranger.~Athenian. Well, but ought we not
921 12 | Cleinias. For example, where?~Athenian. For example, we were saying
922 12 | one.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And further, all four of
923 12 | virtue.~Cleinias. Quite so.~Athenian. There is no difficulty
924 12 | Cleinias. How do you mean?~Athenian. I have no difficulty in
925 12 | more, what do you mean?~Athenian. Ask me what is that one
926 12 | Cleinias. That is true.~Athenian. I have now told you in
927 12 | Cleinias. I suppose not.~Athenian. And is there anything greater
928 12 | there be anything greater?~Athenian. And ought not the interpreters,
929 12 | day?~Cleinias. Wonder! no.~Athenian. Well, then, must we do
930 12 | drift of your comparison?~Athenian. Do we not see that the
931 12 | good, sir, is impossible.~Athenian. Then we ought to proceed
932 12 | preceded.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And must not that of which
933 12 | alluding?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Did we not say that the
934 12 | view to it.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And can any one have a
935 12 | Cleinias. Perhaps not.~Athenian. Not “Perhaps not,” but “
936 12 | the way which you propose.~Athenian. Then, as would appear,
937 12 | accomplish your purpose.~Athenian. Wait a little before you
938 12 | what sense they are one.~Athenian. And are they to consider
939 12 | be the state of a slave.~Athenian. And may not the same be
940 12 | nature?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Is not the knowledge of
941 12 | should be put away from him.~Athenian. Are we assured that there
942 12 | Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. One is the argument about
943 12 | Cleinias. But what is the fact?~Athenian. Just the opposite, as I
944 12 | reversed.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. No man can be a true worshipper
945 12 | in any degree possible.~Athenian. Let us make a common effort
946 12 | investigated and explained.~Athenian. O Megillus and Cleinias,
947 12 | what new thing is this?~Athenian. In the first place, a list
948 12 | under these circumstances?~Athenian. As the proverb says, the
Lysis
Part
949 Intro | who, like Charmides, is an Athenian youth of noble descent and
950 Text | them to me.~Will not the Athenian people, too, entrust their
Menexenus
Part
951 Pre | over the gloomier events of Athenian history. It exhibits an
952 Intro | panegyric the weak places of Athenian history. The war of Athens
Meno
Part
953 Intro | asks Socrates. To any Athenian gentleman—to the great Athenian
954 Intro | Athenian gentleman—to the great Athenian statesmen of past times.
955 Intro | suggestion that Meno may do the Athenian people a service by pacifying
956 Intro | the Sophists, as fatal to Athenian greatness. He is of the
957 Text | that if you were to ask any Athenian whether virtue was natural
958 Text | a good education, as the Athenian people certainly appear
959 Text | single out individuals? Any Athenian gentleman, taken at random,
960 Text | Lysimachus better than any other Athenian in all that could be done
961 Text | would have found out some Athenian or foreigner who would have
962 Text | done good service to the Athenian people.~THE END~ >
Phaedo
Part
963 Text | ship in which, according to Athenian tradition, Theseus went
964 Text | defence better than I did the Athenian judges, it will be well.~
Phaedrus
Part
965 Intro | rival or superior of the Athenian rhetoricians. Even in the
966 Intro | into criticism, just as Athenian literature in the age of
967 Intro | intends to represent an Athenian audience (tettigessin eoikotes).
Philebus
Part
968 Intro | son of Callias, a noble Athenian youth, sprung from a family
Protagoras
Part
969 Intro | reasons: (1) Because the Athenian people, who recognize in
970 Intro | Because the wisest and best Athenian citizens do not teach their
971 Intro | partakers of them. Therefore the Athenian people are right in distinguishing
972 Intro | accomplishments which befit an Athenian gentleman, and let alone
973 Text | Sophists). Callias, a wealthy Athenian.~SCENE: The House of Callias.~
974 Text | Argive, or Pheidias the Athenian, and were intending to give
975 Text | Hippocrates is a native Athenian; he is the son of Apollodorus,
The Republic
Book
976 1 | merits but because he was an Athenian: "If you had been a native
977 3 | as they are thought, of Athenian confectionery? ~Certainly
The Seventh Letter
Part
978 Text | present situation.~I, an Athenian and friend of Dion, came
979 Text | I say that he too is an Athenian who refused to betray this
The Sophist
Part
980 Intro | corrupters of youth (for the Athenian youth were no more corrupted
981 Intro | contemporaries of Socrates. Would an Athenian, as Mr. Grote supposes,
982 Intro | Callicles, or of any intelligent Athenian, with the splendid foreigners
983 Intro | in the mind of the vulgar Athenian, by an ‘interval which no
984 Intro | they were corrupters of the Athenian youth has no real foundation,
985 Intro | the age of Pericles. The Athenian youth were not corrupted
986 Intro | detect the foolishness of Athenian wisdom. At any rate he is
The Statesman
Part
987 Intro | position similar to that of the Athenian Stranger in the Laws.~VII.
The Symposium
Part
988 Text | likely to inspire, as our Athenian tyrants learned by experience;
989 Text | is the revered father of Athenian laws; and many others there
Theaetetus
Part
990 Intro | not true opinion; for the Athenian dicasts have true opinion
991 Intro | Athens, he has found any Athenian youth likely to attain distinction
992 Text | more interested in our own Athenian youth, and I would rather
993 Text | with one very remarkable Athenian youth, whom I commend to
Timaeus
Part
994 Intro | ancient famous actions of the Athenian people, and to one especially,
995 Intro | famous action in which the Athenian people were ever engaged.
996 Intro | citizens and the ancient Athenian State. But I would not speak
997 Intro | them to you as the lost Athenian citizens of whom the Egyptian
998 Text | here is Critias, whom every Athenian knows to be no novice in
999 Text | marvellous actions of the Athenian city, which have passed