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501 6 | which he has established?~Cleinias. Assuredly, that is the 502 6 | leave the work incomplete.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 503 6 | do at the present moment?~Cleinias. What have we to do?~Athenian. 504 6 | far as this is possible.~Cleinias. Certainly; if we can.~Athenian. 505 6 | rate, we must do our best.~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. We 506 6 | are to act. Megillus and Cleinias and I have often spoken 507 6 | and appropriate. For, as Cleinias says, every law should have 508 6 | have a suitable prelude.~Cleinias. You recollect at the right 509 6 | opposite.~Megillus. True.~Cleinias. Then what are we to do 510 6 | owners?~Athenian. Well, Cleinias, there can be no doubt that 511 6 | and freeman, and master.~Cleinias. That is obvious.~Athenian. 512 6 | them and for their masters.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Now that 513 6 | describe their dwellings.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. The 514 6 | temples and walls. These, Cleinias, were matters which properly 515 6 | matters in a general outline.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. The 516 6 | the order of legislation.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 517 6 | marriages exist already, Cleinias, the mode of life during 518 6 | me to be right and true, Cleinias.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. 519 6 | right and true, Cleinias.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. He 520 6 | the world, Megillus and Cleinias, as I should suppose, on 521 6 | tables arose among you.~Cleinias. Likely enough.~Athenian. 522 6 | impossible and useless feat.~Cleinias. What is the cause, Stranger, 523 6 | now waiting. For with you, Cleinias and Megillus, the common 524 6 | rather not, I will refrain.~Cleinias. There is nothing which 525 6 | view the subject of law.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then let 526 6 | began an immense while ago.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Well, 527 6 | transformations of themselves?~Cleinias. No doubt.~Athenian. And 528 6 | other as they do still?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Again, 529 6 | from all living things.~Cleinias. Such has been the constant 530 6 | is the drift of all this?~Cleinias. A very pertinent question, 531 6 | therefore I will endeavour, Cleinias, if I can, to draw the natural 532 6 | draw the natural inference.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. I see 533 6 | proper or suited to them.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let 534 6 | there may be need of them.~Cleinias. What do you bid us keep 535 6 | the excitement of love.~Cleinias. We shall be sure to remember, 536 6 | the terrors of the law.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 537 7 | clearness in what I am saying.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Stranger. 538 7 | improvement of mind and body?~Cleinias. Undoubtedly.~Athenian. 539 7 | and straightest manner?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 540 7 | which he attained at five.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Well, and 541 7 | endless evils in the body?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And the 542 7 | receives most nourishment?~Cleinias. But, Stranger, are we to 543 7 | of infants still unborn.~Cleinias. What do you mean, my good 544 7 | endeavour to explain to you.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 545 7 | heads more than enough.~Cleinias. What penalty?~Athenian. 546 7 | of the nurses to comply.~Cleinias. Then why was there any 547 7 | state well and be happy.~Cleinias. Likely enough.~Athenian. 548 7 | relating to their bodies.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 549 7 | the dance and of music.~Cleinias. Well, Stranger, and what 550 7 | The reason is obvious.~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. The affection 551 7 | favour of this treatment.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. But 552 7 | cowardice and not of courage.~Cleinias. No doubt.~Athenian. And, 553 7 | an exercise of courage.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And we 554 7 | part of virtue in the soul.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Further, 555 7 | cowardice on the other.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. Then 556 7 | character in the young.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. There 557 7 | undesirable associates.~Cleinias. But how must the state 558 7 | more than any other animal.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Do 559 7 | to be passed ill or well.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Does not 560 7 | a good man ought to be?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Well, 561 7 | more gentle and cheerful?~Cleinias. To be sure, Stranger—more 562 7 | There I can no longer agree, Cleinias: you amaze me. To bring 563 7 | see whether I am right.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. The 564 7 | benevolence and kindness.~Cleinias. You need not, ask Megillus, 565 7 | answered?~Athenian. Very good, Cleinias; and now let us all three 566 7 | consider a further point.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. That 567 7 | undermined. Reflecting upon this, Cleinias, you ought to bind together 568 7 | lengthening out our laws.~Cleinias. Very true: we are disposed 569 7 | universally misunderstood.~Cleinias. In what respect?~Athenian. 570 7 | freemen, O Megillus and Cleinias.~I have now completely described 571 7 | communicate your thoughts?~Cleinias. It is not easy, Stranger, 572 7 | let us proceed to speak.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 573 7 | confidence which makes me go on.~Cleinias. What have you to say, Stranger?~ 574 7 | great I deem the evil to be?~Cleinias. You mean the evil of blaming 575 7 | states?~Athenian. Exactly.~Cleinias. If you are speaking of 576 7 | Athenian. I should expect so.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Well, 577 7 | require the utmost prevision.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And 578 7 | characters in men? What say you?~Cleinias. That is the only doctrine 579 7 | varieties of pleasures.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Can 580 7 | than that of the Egyptians?~Cleinias. What is their method?~Athenian. 581 7 | him by any one who likes.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. In 582 7 | what is due to ourselves.~Cleinias. To what are you referring?~ 583 7 | certain all in a moment.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then 584 7 | our present perplexity.~Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger; let 585 7 | imagine this to be our law.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Can 586 7 | and of his other kinsmen?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. And 587 7 | our principles of song—~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. That we 588 7 | that you agree with me.~Cleinias. By all means; that law 589 7 | Gods when we sacrifice?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 590 7 | surely be too ridiculous.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Were 591 7 | should dwell in our state?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And 592 7 | models relating to the Muses—~Cleinias. What?—will you explain 593 7 | and model—What do you say?~Cleinias. Let it be so, by all means.~ 594 7 | their several characters.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. In 595 7 | this will be very fitting.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But 596 7 | other makes them worse.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Again, 597 7 | and quite rightly, too.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I 598 7 | what they are at present.~Cleinias. In what respect?~Athenian. 599 7 | legislator to make than this?~Cleinias. Very true; yet much of 600 7 | Athenian. I should wish to say, Cleinias, as I said before, that 601 7 | some other order of life.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 602 7 | Megillus. What shall we do, Cleinias? Shall we allow a stranger 603 7 | Sparta in this fashion?~Cleinias. Yes; for as we have given 604 7 | Then now I may proceed?~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 605 7 | be in great difficulty.~Cleinias. What troubles you, Stranger? 606 7 | Athenian. You naturally ask, Cleinias, and to you and Megillus, 607 7 | easier parts of the task.~Cleinias. To what do you refer in 608 7 | many myriads of mouths.~Cleinias. Well, and have we not already 609 7 | cheer, and not to faint.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 610 7 | in what they are wrong.~Cleinias. Yes, I do.~Athenian. But 611 7 | learning is dangerous to youth.~Cleinias. How would you advise the 612 7 | Athenian. In what respect?~Cleinias. I mean to what pattern 613 7 | answering.~Athenian. My good Cleinias, I rather think that I am 614 7 | think that I am fortunate.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. I think 615 7 | letters come to an end.~Cleinias. I do not think, Stranger, 616 7 | certain.~Athenian. The truth, Cleinias, may be expected to become 617 7 | whole discussion about laws.~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And now 618 7 | receive orders from us.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I 619 7 | the teachers of the lyre.~Cleinias. To what do you refer?~Athenian. 620 7 | by the way of imitation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And 621 7 | them an innocent amusement.~Cleinias. That, again, is true.~Athenian. 622 7 | exercisesought they not?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. Then the 623 7 | mistresses to exercise them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then 624 7 | of music and gymnastic.~Cleinias. But how will old man be 625 7 | man is the most cowardly!~Cleinias. Such a want of education, 626 7 | alike, shall attend to them?~Cleinias. I quite agree.~Athenian. 627 7 | for the sake of wrestling.~Cleinias. Excellent.~Athenian. Enough 628 7 | masters, if you do not object.~Cleinias. We can have no hesitation 629 7 | application of the words.~Cleinias. And what necessities of 630 7 | contends, or ever will contend.~Cleinias. I think, Stranger, that 631 7 | to nature.~Athenian. Yes, Cleinias, that is so. But it is difficult 632 7 | make regulations for them.~Cleinias. You seem, Stranger, to 633 7 | up, are far more fatal.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. All freemen, 634 7 | ludicrous and disgraceful.~Cleinias. What kind of ignorance 635 7 | mean?~Athenian. O my dear Cleinias, I, like yourself, have 636 7 | myself, but of all Hellenes.~Cleinias. About what? Say, Stranger, 637 7 | suppose, what length is?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 638 7 | Athenian. And what breadth is?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And 639 7 | third thing called depth?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. And 640 7 | commensurable with themselves?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. That is 641 7 | like manner with depth?~Cleinias. Undoubtedly.~Athenian. 642 7 | position in regard to them?~Cleinias. Clearly, far from good.~ 643 7 | commensurable with one in some way?~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. But 644 7 | is no great distinction?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 645 7 | errors of the same family.~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 646 7 | man’s game of draughts.~Cleinias. I dare say; and these pastimes 647 7 | And these, as I maintain, Cleinias, are the studies which our 648 7 | say what he has to say.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then 649 7 | they shall be excluded.~Cleinias. Assuredly: but may we not 650 7 | or you who accept them.~Cleinias. A fair condition.~Athenian. 651 7 | proposed for our youth.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Here 652 7 | point of view be tolerated.~Cleinias. To what are you referring?~ 653 7 | very opposite is the truth.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 654 7 | abstain from expressing it.~Cleinias. Your words are reasonable 655 7 | Gods, the Sun and the Moon.~Cleinias. Lies of what nature?~Athenian. 656 7 | them planets or wanderers.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; and 657 7 | Athenian. Just so, Megillus and Cleinias; and I maintain that our 658 7 | to blaspheme about them.~Cleinias. There you are right if 659 7 | old men like yourselves.~Cleinias. True; but what is this 660 7 | ludicrous and erroneous?~Cleinias. Worse than ludicrous, I 661 7 | a false report of them.~Cleinias. Most true, if such is the 662 7 | let this be our decision.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Enough 663 7 | education are complete.~Cleinias. Very good.~  ~ 664 8 | partly regulated by us.~Cleinias. The number—yes.~Athenian. 665 8 | the art of selfdefence?~Cleinias. The way which you mention 666 8 | than the loss of a few.~Cleinias. We are quite agreed, Stranger, 667 8 | mankind and their legislators?~Cleinias. Perhaps.~Athenian. Certainly 668 8 | Athenian. Certainly not, sweet Cleinias; there are two causes, which 669 8 | account for the deficiency.~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 670 8 | gratification of his lusts.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Let this, 671 8 | but they are unfortunate.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 672 8 | through life always hungering?~Cleinias. Then that is one cause, 673 8 | Thank you for reminding me.~Cleinias. The insatiable life long 674 8 | because I am in a perplexity?~Cleinias. No; but we think that you 675 8 | That is a very fair rebuke, Cleinias; and I will now proceed 676 8 | proceed to the second cause.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. I say 677 8 | perfected according to our idea.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then next 678 8 | of running and swiftness.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Certainly 679 8 | need vigour and strength.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Neither 680 8 | efficiency without arms.~Cleinias. How can they?~Athenian. 681 8 | to the conqueror in each.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let 682 8 | and following reason only.~Cleinias. What is this, Stranger, 683 8 | so great a danger? Truly, Cleinias, here is a difficulty. In 684 8 | difficulty and obscurity.~Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. 685 8 | we term the excess love.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. The 686 8 | your custom any further. Cleinias shall be prevailed upon 687 8 | not beyond human nature?~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 688 8 | condition, and out of training?~Cleinias. He will be far more temperate 689 8 | and many others; and yet, Cleinias, they were far worse educated 690 8 | their bodies far more lusty.~Cleinias. No doubt this fact has 691 8 | tales and sayings and songs?~Cleinias. Of what victory are you 692 8 | inferior people have mastered?~Cleinias. I dare say.~Athenian. And 693 8 | second law against them.~Cleinias. And what law would you 694 8 | failed?~Athenian. Clearly, Cleinias, the one which would naturally 695 8 | would naturally follow.~Cleinias. What is that?~Athenian. 696 8 | them not to transgress.~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 697 8 | gladly receive this law. Cleinias shall speak for himself, 698 8 | you what is his opinion.~Cleinias. I will, Megillus, when 699 8 | point of view of unequals.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 700 8 | better and sometimes worse.~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. Such 701 9 | to be the judges of them.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian Stranger. 702 9 | fortune than his predecessors!~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Once 703 9 | set free from his bonds.~Cleinias. What makes you say, Stranger, 704 9 | was running on too fast, Cleinias, and you impinged upon me, 705 9 | doctor, but to get well.~Cleinias. And would he not be right?~ 706 9 | rather a telling observation.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. But 707 9 | Athenian. But we are fortunate.~Cleinias. In what way?~Athenian. 708 9 | necessary—which shall we do?~Cleinias. There is something ridiculous, 709 9 | Certainly, in that case, Cleinias, our view of law will be 710 9 | entreat you to consider.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. There 711 9 | well as by other persons.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. Shall 712 9 | heed to them above all?~Cleinias. Yes; to them far above 713 9 | who intend to be happy?~Cleinias. Certainly not.~Athenian. 714 9 | gracious, it will be good!~Cleinias. Excellent; let us do as 715 9 | consider these matters.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 716 9 | disagree among themselves.~Cleinias. What are the inconsistencies 717 9 | any inconsistency in this.~Cleinias. They would be quite right.~ 718 9 | correlatives of just actions.~Cleinias. And what is the inference?~ 719 9 | the fair and honourable.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 720 9 | consistently carried out?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But then 721 9 | the honourable disagree?~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 722 9 | opposed to what we are saying.~Cleinias. To what?~Athenian. We had 723 9 | diametrical opposition?~Cleinias. Such appears to be the 724 9 | the honourable and just.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger.~Athenian. 725 9 | Stranger.~Athenian. Then now, Cleinias, let us see how far we ourselves 726 9 | consistent about these matters.~Cleinias. Consistent in what?~Athenian. 727 9 | did not, let me now state—~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. That all 728 9 | draw a further inference.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. That 729 9 | inconsistent with myself, if you, Cleinias, and you, Megillus, say 730 9 | thing as voluntary crime?~Cleinias. Very good, Stranger; and 731 9 | the first place, let us—~Cleinias. Do what?~Athenian. Let 732 9 | fitly or unfitly inflicted.~Cleinias. I agree with you, Stranger; 733 9 | distinction between them.~Cleinias. Very true, Stranger; there 734 9 | voluntary and involuntary.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. I 735 9 | going to say; for I deny, Cleinias and Megillus, that he who 736 9 | to those of friendship.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then 737 9 | the following direction.~Cleinias. What direction?~Athenian. 738 9 | punishment of offences.~Cleinias. What you have said appears 739 9 | force overturns many things.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. And 740 9 | of deceit in all things.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. A 741 9 | most merciful of all laws.~Cleinias. You are perfectly right.~ 742 9 | them; and this is true.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. But 743 9 | another inferior to ignorance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We 744 9 | directions at the same time.~Cleinias. Yes, often.~Athenian. And 745 9 | denominate anger and fear.~Cleinias. Quite right.~Athenian. 746 9 | make laws of two kinds.~Cleinias. What are the two kinds?~ 747 9 | a character of severity.~Cleinias. Naturally.~Athenian. And 748 9 | be the rule of our laws.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Let 749 9 | desires, and jealousies.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Let 750 9 | is next to impossible.~Cleinias. Then what is to be the 751 9 | must decide for himself.~Cleinias. And what ought the legislator 752 10 | sacrifices and prayers.~Cleinias. What shall we say or do 753 10 | superiority will utter against us.~Cleinias. What jests?~Athenian. They 754 10 | to accept our challenge.”~Cleinias. But is there any difficulty 755 10 | How would you prove it?~Cleinias. How? In the first place, 756 10 | love of sensual pleasure.~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, what other 757 10 | atmosphere would never guess.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. A 758 10 | be the greatest wisdom.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 759 10 | words and a make–believe.~Cleinias. One such teacher, O Stranger, 760 10 | the requisite enactments.~Cleinias. Yes, Stranger; but then 761 10 | truth of these matters.~Cleinias. Our address, Stranger, 762 10 | Quite true, Megillus and Cleinias, but I am afraid that we 763 10 | lighted on a strange doctrine.~Cleinias. What doctrine do you mean?~ 764 10 | in the opinion of many.~Cleinias. I wish that you would speak 765 10 | art, and some by chance.~Cleinias. Is not that true?~Athenian. 766 10 | them and their disciples.~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 767 10 | generally termed artificial.~Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. 768 10 | assumptions which are not true.~Cleinias. How do you mean?~Athenian. 769 10 | legal subjection to them.~Cleinias. What a dreadful picture, 770 10 | families!~Athenian. True, Cleinias; but then what should the 771 10 | of them as far as he can?~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, if such 772 10 | Athenian. Yes, my enthusiastic Cleinias; but are not these things 773 10 | a dismal length of time?~Cleinias. Why, Stranger, shall we, 774 10 | Megillus. Stranger, I like what Cleinias is saying.~Athenian. Yes, 775 10 | Athenian. Well, then, tell me, Cleinias—for I must ask you to be 776 10 | is what he really means.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Then, 777 10 | that is my opinion of them.~Cleinias. You are right; but I should 778 10 | argument may seem singular.~Cleinias. Do not hesitate, Stranger; 779 10 | true nature of the Gods.~Cleinias. Still I do not understand 780 10 | which appertain to the body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then 781 10 | government of art and mind.~Cleinias. But why is the wordnature” 782 10 | body, but not otherwise.~Cleinias. You are quite right.~Athenian. 783 10 | attention should be directed?~Cleinias. By all means.~Athenian. 784 10 | soul is prior to the body.~Cleinias. Excellent, Stranger, and 785 10 | exception, my friends, of two?~Cleinias. Which are they?~Athenian. 786 10 | present enquiry is concerned.~Cleinias. Speak plainer.~Athenian. 787 10 | has reference to the soul?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Let 788 10 | the many kinds of motion.~Cleinias. Granted.~Athenian. And 789 10 | inclined to call the tenth.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 790 10 | mightiest and most efficient?~Cleinias. I must say that the motion 791 10 | what I have been saying?~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 792 10 | that was not quite correct.~Cleinias. What was the error?~Athenian. 793 10 | termed the ninth by us.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 794 10 | the selfmoving principle?~Cleinias. Very true, and I quite 795 10 | first spring up among them?~Cleinias. Clearly the selfmoving; 796 10 | yet moves other is second.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. At 797 10 | argument let us put a question.~Cleinias. What question?~Athenian. 798 10 | how should we describe it?~Cleinias. You mean to ask whether 799 10 | power life?~Athenian. I do.~Cleinias. Certainly we should.~Athenian. 800 10 | admit that this is life?~Cleinias. We must.~Athenian. And 801 10 | threefold knowledge of things?~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 802 10 | be raised about anything.~Cleinias. How two?~Athenian. Sometimes 803 10 | what I mean in this way.~Cleinias. How?~Athenian. Number like 804 10 | divisible into two equal parts”?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. I mean, 805 10 | divided into two equal parts.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. And 806 10 | motion which can move itself?~Cleinias. You mean to say that the 807 10 | and motion in all things?~Cleinias. Certainly not; the soul 808 10 | number which you may prefer?~Cleinias. Exactly.~Athenian. Then 809 10 | soul, which is the ruler?~Cleinias. Nothing can be more true.~ 810 10 | prior to those of the body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then 811 10 | soul is prior to the body.~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. In 812 10 | the cause of all things?~Cleinias. We must.~Athenian. And 813 10 | orders also the heavens?~Cleinias. Of course.~Athenian. One 814 10 | and the other of evil.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Yes, 815 10 | still entertain doubts?~Cleinias. There is no room at all 816 10 | make answer as follows:—~Cleinias. How would you answer?~Athenian. 817 10 | it along the good path.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. But if 818 10 | the evil soul guides it.~Cleinias. True again.~Athenian. Of 819 10 | assist you in framing one.~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Then 820 10 | look at the image only.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 821 10 | answer on behalf of us all.~Cleinias. That will be excellent.~ 822 10 | either at rest or in motion?~Cleinias. I do.~Athenian. And that 823 10 | others in more than one?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. Of these 824 10 | circular movement of mind.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 825 10 | discredit to our ingenuity.~Cleinias. It does us great credit.~ 826 10 | senselessness and folly?~Cleinias. That is most true.~Athenian. 827 10 | revolution of the heaven.~Cleinias. And judging from what has 828 10 | understood my meaning right well, Cleinias, and now let me ask you 829 10 | ask you another question.~Cleinias. What are you going to ask?~ 830 10 | each individual of them?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Then 831 10 | argument will apply to all.~Cleinias. Which will you take?~Athenian. 832 10 | apprehend the following point.~Cleinias. What is that?~Athenian. 833 10 | one of three alternatives.~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 834 10 | extraordinary and wonderful power.~Cleinias. Yes, certainly; the soul 835 10 | man to be deemed a God.~Cleinias. Yes, by every man who has 836 10 | all things full of Gods?~Cleinias. No one, Stranger, would 837 10 | Athenian. And now, Megillus and Cleinias, let us offer terms to him 838 10 | the Gods, and leave him.~Cleinias. What terms?~Athenian. Either 839 10 | deny that there are Gods.~Cleinias. Certainlyquite enough, 840 10 | And do you, Megillus and Cleinias, answer for the young man 841 10 | river as I did just now.~Cleinias. Very good; do as you say, 842 10 | entirely natural to them.~Cleinias. No doubt he heard that.~ 843 10 | and the contrary to vice?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Yes; 844 10 | and cowardice of vice?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And the 845 10 | the other dishonourable?~Cleinias. To be sure.~Athenian. And 846 10 | in anything of the sort?~Cleinias. That again is what everybody 847 10 | virtues? What do you think?~Cleinias. Decidedly not.~Athenian. 848 10 | under the opposite class?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And their 849 10 | under the opposite class?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. But are 850 10 | compares to stingless drones?~Cleinias. And the comparison is a 851 10 | tolerated for a moment.~Cleinias. Of course not. How could 852 10 | from one of two principles.~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 853 10 | strength or capacity to manage?~Cleinias. Certainly not.~Athenian. 854 10 | knowledge:—do you admit this?~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. And do you 855 10 | and immortals can have?~Cleinias. They will, of course, admit 856 10 | they are good and perfect?~Cleinias. Assuredly.~Athenian. But, 857 10 | inactivity and indolence.~Cleinias. Most true.~Athenian. Then 858 10 | is no cowardice in them.~Cleinias. That is very true.~Athenian. 859 10 | opposite of their knowing?~Cleinias. There is none.~Athenian. 860 10 | by pleasures and pains?~Cleinias. Impossible.~Athenian. Do 861 10 | religious of all animals?~Cleinias. That is not to be denied.~ 862 10 | whole of heaven belongs?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And, 863 10 | a further consideration.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. Sensation 864 10 | their case and difficulty.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 865 10 | than of their opposites.~Cleinias. Far more.~Athenian. Suppose 866 10 | parts which are lesser?~Cleinias. Decidedly not well.~Athenian. 867 10 | well without the lesser.~Cleinias. Of course not.~Athenian. 868 10 | but to the greater only.~Cleinias. Never, Stranger, let us 869 10 | accuse the Gods of neglect.~Cleinias. Yes.~Athenian. He has been 870 10 | some words of consolation.~Cleinias. What consolation will you 871 10 | them their proper portion.~Cleinias. In what way do you mean?~ 872 10 | a wonderfully easy task.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. I will 873 10 | the nature of his soul.~Cleinias. Yes, that is probably true.~ 874 10 | discourse respecting either. If Cleinias and this our reverend company 875 10 | the utmost of his power.~Cleinias. Very good; let us do as 876 10 | unceasingly the whole heaven?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And to 877 10 | name, which is injustice.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. What 878 10 | propitiated argue thus?~Cleinias. Precisely so.~Athenian. 879 10 | overturn both ship and sailors?~Cleinias. Assuredly not.~Athenian. 880 10 | victory to other chariots?~Cleinias. That would be a fearful 881 10 | have silenced by wolves.~Cleinias. A thing not to be spoken 882 10 | guard our highest interests?~Cleinias. Yes; the chiefest.~Athenian. 883 10 | men impiously offer them?~Cleinias. Certainly not: nor is such 884 10 | May we say that they are?~Cleinias. You have our entire assent 885 10 | men; and I will tell dear Cleinias, why I am so. I would not 886 10 | have been spoken in vain.~Cleinias. So let us hope; and even 887 11 | a great deal of virtue.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian 888 11 | Athenian Stranger. Dear Cleinias, the class of men is small— 889 11 | intestate. When I said, Cleinias, that we must regulate them, 890 11 | that we are about to die.~Cleinias. What do you mean, Stranger?~ 891 11 | mean, Stranger?~Athenian. O Cleinias, a man when he is about 892 11 | trouble to the legislator.~Cleinias. In what way?~Athenian. 893 11 | and will use angry words.~Cleinias. Such as what?~Athenian. 894 11 | every other sort of fortune!~Cleinias. Well Stranger, and may 895 11 | Athenian. In my opinion, Cleinias, the ancient legislators 896 11 | consideration of human things.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 897 11 | our departing citizens.~Cleinias. What?~Athenian. O my friends, 898 11 | to the living and dying, Cleinias, and let the law be as follows:~ 899 11 | ignorance imposes upon them.~Cleinias. And how, Stranger, can 900 11 | and the subjects of them.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 901 11 | show true service to them.~Cleinias. And what do you call the 902 11 | are worth listening to.~Cleinias. Proceed.~Athenian. Oedipus, 903 11 | contrary to their nature.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. May 904 11 | the favour of the Gods.~Cleinias. Excellent.~Athenian. Every 905 11 | we must do, Megillus and Cleinias, in the best and fairest 906 12 | examination is illconducted.~Cleinias. How can we have an examination 907 12 | creation is incomplete.~Cleinias. That is very good Stranger; 908 12 | what you mean.~Athenian. O Cleinias, many things of old time 909 12 | the Fates was one of them.~Cleinias. What is it?~Athenian. The 910 12 | this irreversible nature.~Cleinias. It will be no small matter 911 12 | so much I clearly see.~Cleinias. Then let us not think of 912 12 | the same mind with you.~Cleinias. Very good: And now what, 913 12 | sort said by us before?~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. Then, returning 914 12 | that we wish to preserve.~Cleinias. What do you mean?~Athenian. 915 12 | truth in all earnestness.~Cleinias. Well said, and I hope that 916 12 | intention.~Athenian. Know, Cleinias, that everything, in all 917 12 | are the chief saviours.~Cleinias. Once more, what do you 918 12 | preservation of every living thing.~Cleinias. How is that?~Athenian. 919 12 | called the salvation of all.~Cleinias. Yes, Quite so.~Athenian. 920 12 | themselves and their craft?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. We 921 12 | seeking to attain salvation?~Cleinias. Very good.~Athenian. Does 922 12 | producing health in the body?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 923 12 | about any of these matters.~Cleinias. They cannot.~Athenian. 924 12 | does not even know the aim?~Cleinias. Impossible.~Athenian. And 925 12 | proceed by mere chance.~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. In 926 12 | to be found? Can we say?~Cleinias. I am not quite certain, 927 12 | understand me perfectly, Cleinias; and we must assume, as 928 12 | this to fix all our aims.~Cleinias. Quite true.~Athenian. Then 929 12 | would have all things look.~Cleinias. Then, Stranger, our former 930 12 | be virtue.~Athenian. Yes.~Cleinias. And we said that virtue 931 12 | kinds?~Athenian. Quite true.~Cleinias. And that mind was the leader 932 12 | You follow me capitally, Cleinias, and I would ask you to 933 12 | you, Megillus, and you, Cleinias, say distinctly what is 934 12 | which I have given you?~Cleinias. We cannot, Stranger.~Athenian. 935 12 | where it is to be found?~Cleinias. For example, where?~Athenian. 936 12 | each of them must be one.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 937 12 | but one, that is, virtue.~Cleinias. Quite so.~Athenian. There 938 12 | the single name of virtue.~Cleinias. How do you mean?~Athenian. 939 12 | subject questions and answers.~Cleinias. Once more, what do you 940 12 | is of a different nature.~Cleinias. That is true.~Athenian. 941 12 | glorious truths are concerned?~Cleinias. I suppose not.~Athenian. 942 12 | temperance, wisdom, justice?~Cleinias. How can there be anything 943 12 | fate of cities in our day?~Cleinias. Wonder! no.~Athenian. Well, 944 12 | possessing such a guardian power?~Cleinias. What, Stranger, is the 945 12 | training and education?~Cleinias. That they should be equal, 946 12 | any which has preceded.~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. And 947 12 | were just now alluding?~Cleinias. Very true.~Athenian. Did 948 12 | things with a view to it.~Cleinias. True.~Athenian. And can 949 12 | from many different things?~Cleinias. Perhaps not.~Athenian. 950 12 | this discovered by any man.~Cleinias. I bow to your authority, 951 12 | the matter alone, we will.~Cleinias. We must not, Stranger, 952 12 | has to be accomplished.~Cleinias. Certainly, it ought to 953 12 | in what way they are one?~Cleinias. They must consider also 954 12 | set forth what they think?~Cleinias. Certainly not; that would 955 12 | well, according to nature?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian. Is 956 12 | laboured at these things.~Cleinias. It is certainly just, as 957 12 | we have already stated?~Cleinias. What are they?~Athenian. 958 12 | will accomplishing good.~Cleinias. But what is the fact?~Athenian. 959 12 | said, the case is reversed.~Cleinias. How so?~Athenian. No man 960 12 | other rulers. Wherefore, Cleinias and Megillus, let us consider 961 12 | Shall we propose this?~Cleinias. Certainly, my good friend, 962 12 | others who will also help.~Cleinias. I agree, Stranger, that 963 12 | Athenian. O Megillus and Cleinias, about these matters we 964 12 | rightly in a long discourse.~Cleinias. What do you mean, and what 965 12 | they would have no meaning.~Cleinias. What then are we to do, 966 12 | and I would advise you, Cleinias, in particular, to see to 967 12 | in them.~Megillus. Dear Cleinias, after all that has been 968 12 | give up the undertaking.~Cleinias. Very true, Megillus; and Protagoras Part
969 Text | fairer love than the son of Cleinias?~SOCRATES: And is not the 970 Text | another example: there was Cleinias the younger brother of our 971 Text | under the apprehension that Cleinias would be corrupted by Alcibiades, The Second Alcibiades Part
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