(...) Philebus
    Part
501 Text |        thus examined the nature of pleasure from both points of view,
502 Text |            deeper want and greater pleasure in the satisfaction of their
503 Text |       speaking of the magnitude of pleasure; I want to know where pleasures
504 Text |           have to discover what is pleasure, and what they mean by pleasure
505 Text |    pleasure, and what they mean by pleasure who deny her very existence.~
506 Text |          their rule, but excess of pleasure possessing the minds of
507 Text |            is thus produced in us?—Pleasure or pain?~PROTARCHUS: A villainous
508 Text |         which the pain exceeds the pleasure, an example is afforded
509 Text |           produce the most intense pleasure or pain in the inner parts,
510 Text |           mingles with the pain or pleasure, as the case may be, of
511 Text |            to the juxtaposition of pleasure and pain.~PROTARCHUS: Quite
512 Text |           Sometimes the element of pleasure prevails in a man, and the
513 Text |          the excessive infusion of pleasure creates an excitement in
514 Text |            to the body, whether of pleasure or pain, and the two unite
515 Text |        desires to be full, and has pleasure in hope and pain in vacuity.
516 Text |         and they are innumerable), pleasure and pain coalesce in one.~
517 Text |          mixed feeling of pain and pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: I do not quite
518 Text |         sort a singular mixture of pleasure and pain.~PROTARCHUS: How
519 Text |            not envy an unrighteous pleasure, and also an unrighteous
520 Text |             And do we feel pain or pleasure in laughing at it?~PROTARCHUS:
521 Text |        PROTARCHUS: Clearly we feel pleasure.~SOCRATES: And was not envy
522 Text |            envy the source of this pleasure which we feel at the misfortunes
523 Text |          the folly of our friends, pleasure, in mingling with envy,
524 Text |          there are combinations of pleasure and pain in lamentations,
525 Text |  Protarchus, I should wish to test pleasure and knowledge in every possible
526 Text | illustration of the argument about pleasure; one such is sufficient
527 Text |           prove to us that a small pleasure or a small amount of pleasure,
528 Text |      pleasure or a small amount of pleasure, if pure or unalloyed with
529 Text |            and fairer than a great pleasure or a great amount of pleasure
530 Text |      pleasure or a great amount of pleasure of another kind.~PROTARCHUS:
531 Text |             have we not heard that pleasure is always a generation,
532 Text |          Assuredly.~SOCRATES: Then pleasure, being a generation, must
533 Text |          certainly.~SOCRATES: Then pleasure, being a generation, will
534 Text |         who first pointed out that pleasure was a generation only, and
535 Text |            laughs at the notion of pleasure being a good.~PROTARCHUS:
536 Text |          the process as if it were pleasure; and they say that they
537 Text |           were saying, was neither pleasure nor pain, but only the purest
538 Text |          who would make us believe pleasure to be a good is involved
539 Text |           only good of the soul is pleasure; and that courage or temperance
540 Text |         feeling of pain and not of pleasure is bad at the time when
541 Text |            he who has a feeling of pleasure, in so far as he is pleased
542 Text |          And now, having subjected pleasure to every sort of test, let
543 Text |            truest elements both of pleasure and knowledge may be brought
544 Text |         been seeking a parallel to pleasure, and true to that original
545 Text |         purer than another, as one pleasure is purer than another.~PROTARCHUS:
546 Text |           adduced of the rivals of pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: Very true,
547 Text |          here are the ingredients, pleasure and wisdom, and we may be
548 Text |       SOCRATES: Philebus says that pleasure is the true end of all living
549 Text |          wisdom partakes more than pleasure of the good. Is not and
550 Text |           separation of wisdom and pleasure, assigning to each a distinct
551 Text |           a distinct life, so that pleasure was wholly excluded from
552 Text |            had no part whatever in pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: We did.~SOCRATES:
553 Text |            acquire,—I will not say pleasure, however abundant or intense,
554 Text |        wisdom absolutely devoid of pleasure, rather than with a certain
555 Text |           with a certain degree of pleasure, or all pleasure devoid
556 Text |         degree of pleasure, or all pleasure devoid of wisdom, rather
557 Text |            our side: one, which is pleasure, may be likened to a fountain
558 Text |           we mingled every sort of pleasure with every sort of wisdom?~
559 Text |          What is it?~SOCRATES: One pleasure was supposed by us to be
560 Text |          return to the fountain of pleasure. For we were not permitted
561 Text |           but ask the daughters of pleasure and wisdom to answer for
562 Text | omnipresent nature is more akin to pleasure or to mind.~PROTARCHUS:
563 Text |         decide well enough whether pleasure or wisdom is more akin to
564 Text |    separately in their relation to pleasure and mind, and pronounce
565 Text |     passing in review mind, truth, pleasure, pause awhile and make answer
566 Text |          to yourself—as to whether pleasure or mind is more akin to
567 Text |          between them is palpable; pleasure is the veriest impostor
568 Text |            manner, and ask whether pleasure has more of this than wisdom,
569 Text |        than wisdom, or wisdom than pleasure?~PROTARCHUS: Here is another
570 Text |  immoderate than the transports of pleasure, or more in conformity with
571 Text |       greater share of beauty than pleasure, and is mind or pleasure
572 Text |           pleasure, and is mind or pleasure the fairer of the two?~PROTARCHUS:
573 Text |         tidings far and wide, that pleasure is not the first of possessions,
574 Text |   certainly more akin to good than pleasure is.~PROTARCHUS: Surely.~
575 Text |             Philebus affirmed that pleasure was always and absolutely
576 Text |        element of human life, than pleasure.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES:
577 Text |         second place for mind over pleasure, and pleasure would lose
578 Text |            mind over pleasure, and pleasure would lose the second place
579 Text |       SOCRATES: The claims both of pleasure and mind to be the absolute
580 Text |       nature of the conqueror than pleasure.~PROTARCHUS: Certainly.~
581 Text |          which has now been given, pleasure will rank fifth.~PROTARCHUS:


Protagoras
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582 Intro|         would like to know whether pleasure is not the only good, and
583 Intro|   knowledge under the influence of pleasure. But this opposition of
584 Intro|        greater or lesser amount of pleasure. Pleasures are evils because
585 Intro|        they end in pleasures. Thus pleasure is seen to be the only good;
586 Intro|           preference of the lesser pleasure to the greater. But then
587 Intro|            no one prefers the less pleasure to the greater, or the greater
588 Intro|           of good, and honour, and pleasure. And why are the courageous
589 Intro|         the explanation of good as pleasure—Plato is inconsistent with
590 Intro|          Socrates is arguing that ‘pleasure is the only good,’ Protagoras
591 Intro|           even on a calculation of pleasure, and irresistible here,
592 Intro|         mere exchange of a greater pleasure for a less—the unity of
593 Intro|            doctrine that virtue is pleasure, or that pleasure is the
594 Intro|        virtue is pleasure, or that pleasure is the chief or only good,
595 Text |          not deny the company this pleasure.~Now I had got up, and was
596 Text |          wisdom and knowledge, but pleasure is of the body when eating
597 Text |         evil?~Yes, he said, if the pleasure be good and honourable.~
598 Text |        things which participate in pleasure or create pleasure?~Certainly,
599 Text |  participate in pleasure or create pleasure?~Certainly, he said.~Then
600 Text |          question would imply that pleasure is a good in itself.~According
601 Text |         and the result proves that pleasure and good are really the
602 Text |          opinion is about good and pleasure, I am minded to say to you:
603 Text |          overmastered by anger, or pleasure, or pain, or love, or perhaps
604 Text |           are overcome by pain, or pleasure, or some of those affections
605 Text |            call ‘being overcome by pleasure,’ and which they affirm
606 Text |          called ‘being overcome by pleasure,’ pray, what is it, and
607 Text |           termed being overcome by pleasure? I should answer thus: Listen,
608 Text |         that they were overcome by pleasure? They will not deny this.
609 Text |         they are pleasant and give pleasure at the moment, or because
610 Text |          give the consciousness of pleasure of whatever nature?’—Would
611 Text |         not evil on account of the pleasure which is immediately given
612 Text |            except that they end in pleasure, and get rid of and avert
613 Text |          to any other standard but pleasure and pain when you call them
614 Text |            do you not pursue after pleasure as a good, and avoid pain
615 Text |           that pain is an evil and pleasure is a good: and even pleasure
616 Text |       pleasure is a good: and even pleasure you deem an evil, when it
617 Text |      causes pains greater than the pleasure. If, however, you call pleasure
618 Text |    pleasure. If, however, you call pleasure an evil in relation to some
619 Text |           some standard other than pleasure and pain to which you refer
620 Text |            expression ‘overcome by pleasure’; and the whole argument
621 Text |        pain, or good as other than pleasure, you may still retract.
622 Text |          then, at having a life of pleasure which is without pain? If
623 Text |         evil which does not end in pleasure and pain, hear the consequences:—
624 Text |         seduced and overpowered by pleasure; or again, when you say
625 Text |          overcome at the moment by pleasure. And that this is ridiculous
626 Text |           not be able to reply ‘By pleasure,’ for the name of pleasure
627 Text |         pleasure,’ for the name of pleasure has been exchanged for that
628 Text |            we say, was overcome by pleasure, would not have been wrong. ‘
629 Text |            substitute the names of pleasure and pain for good and evil,
630 Text |          because he is overcome by pleasure, which is unworthy to overcome.
631 Text |          there of the relations of pleasure to pain other than excess
632 Text |            Socrates, but immediate pleasure differs widely from future
633 Text |         differs widely from future pleasure and pain’—To that I should
634 Text |          differ in anything but in pleasure and pain? There can be no
635 Text |            have the advantage over pleasure and all other things; and
636 Text |             and then you said that pleasure often got the advantage
637 Text |       meaning of being overcome by pleasure if not this?—tell us what
638 Text |       meaning of being overcome by pleasure; —ignorance, and that the


The Republic
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639 1    |          the greater to me are the pleasure and charm of conversation.
640 2    |         and lie with anyone at his pleasure, or kill or release from
641 3    |            question: Has excess of pleasure any affinity to temperance? ~
642 3    |           can that be? he replied; pleasure deprives a man of the use
643 3    |        there any greater or keener pleasure than that of sensual love? ~
644 3    |            Then mad or intemperate pleasure must never be allowed to
645 3    |            the softer influence of pleasure, or the sterner influence
646 4    |           would, take a journey of pleasure; they have no money to spend
647 4    | circumstances" to intimate that in pleasure or in pain, or under the
648 4    |            whose spirit retains in pleasure and in pain the commands
649 5    |            pain at suffering or of pleasure at the alleviation of suffering. ~
650 5    |           have a common feeling of pleasure and pain? ~Yes, far more
651 5    |          members, when affected by pleasure or pain? ~That we acknowledged,
652 5    |          practice? ~May I have the pleasure, he said, of hearing your
653 5    |            as you do; but a man of pleasure like yourself ought to know
654 6    |        Whether he has or has not a pleasure in learning; for no one
655 6    |            that most people affirm pleasure to be the good, but the
656 6    |          said. ~And those who make pleasure their good are in equal
657 6    |            good to be knowledge or pleasure, or different from either? ~
658 6    |            cannot mean to say that pleasure is the good? ~God forbid,
659 7    |      opposite maxims and habits of pleasure which flatter and attract
660 8    |      incapable of resisting either pleasure or pain. ~Very true. ~They
661 8    |        what I should suppose. ~The pleasure of eating is necessary in
662 9    |           there are three kinds of pleasure, which are their several
663 9    |         Will he not think that the pleasure of riches is vulgar, while
664 9    |        riches is vulgar, while the pleasure of learning, if it brings
665 9    |   pleasures in comparison with the pleasure of knowing the truth, and
666 9    |          indeed from the heaven of pleasure? Does he not call the other
667 9    |          greater experience of the pleasure of knowledge than the philosopher
668 9    |         the philosopher has of the pleasure of gain? ~The philosopher,
669 9    |            at the result, that the pleasure of the intelligent part
670 9    |        life which is next, and the pleasure which is next? ~Clearly
671 9    |         whispers in my ear that no pleasure except that of the wise
672 9    |        Proceed. ~Say, then, is not pleasure opposed to pain? ~True. ~
673 9    |     neutral state which is neither pleasure nor pain? ~There is. ~A
674 9    |            by them as the greatest pleasure? ~Yes, he said; at the time
675 9    |           be at rest. ~Again, when pleasure ceases, that sort of rest
676 9    | intermediate state of rest will be pleasure and will also be pain? ~
677 9    |          should say not. ~And both pleasure and pain are motions of
678 9    |        that the absence of pain is pleasure, or that the absence of
679 9    |             or that the absence of pleasure is pain? ~Impossible. This,
680 9    |        that is to say, the rest is pleasure at the moment and in comparison
681 9    |          tried by the test of true pleasure, are not real, but a sort
682 9    |       perhaps may at present, that pleasure is only the cessation of
683 9    |      cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~What are they, he said,
684 9    |       induced to believe that pure pleasure is the cessation of pain,
685 9    |      cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~No. ~Still, the more numerous
686 9    |        also have wrong ideas about pleasure and pain and the intermediate
687 9    |            the goal of satiety and pleasure; they, not knowing pleasure,
688 9    |        pleasure; they, not knowing pleasure, err in contrasting pain
689 9    |         course. ~And if there be a pleasure in being filled with that
690 9    |        really and truly enjoy true pleasure; whereas that which participates
691 9    |          an illusory and less real pleasure? ~Unquestionably. Those,
692 9    |          taste of pure and abiding pleasure. Like cattle, with their
693 9    |         fails in attaining its own pleasure, and compels the rest to
694 9    |         the rest to pursue after a pleasure which is a shadow only and
695 9    |           and illusive will be the pleasure? ~Yes. ~And is not that
696 9    |      distance from true or natural pleasure, and the king at the least? ~
697 9    |           be wedded to an image of pleasure which is thrice removed
698 9    |       removed as to truth from the pleasure of the oligarch? ~He will. ~
699 9    |        tyrant is removed from true pleasure by the space of a number
700 9    |        shadow, then, of tyrannical pleasure determined by the number
701 9    |        from the tyrant in truth of pleasure, he will find him, when
702 9    |            the unjust in regard to pleasure and pain! ~Yet a true calculation,
703 9    |            man be thus superior in pleasure to the evil and unjust,
704 9    |          point of view, whether of pleasure, honor, or advantage, the
705 10   |       troubles; he thinks that the pleasure is a gain, and why should
706 10   |           of desire, and pain, and pleasure, which are held to be inseparable
707 10   |         ever been deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers


The Seventh Letter
    Part
708 Text |            virtue in preference to pleasure and self-indulgence. The
709 Text |        with that slavish and gross pleasure which is falsely called


The Sophist
    Part
710 Intro|            the pursuit of gain and pleasure rather than of knowledge,
711 Intro|        physics, and as maintaining pleasure to be the absence of pain.’
712 Text |           baits his hook only with pleasure and exacts nothing but his
713 Text |            his own affairs for the pleasure of conversation, of which
714 Text |      opinion is opposed to desire, pleasure to anger, reason to pain,
715 Text |          he sees a puzzle, and his pleasure is to drag words this way


The Statesman
    Part
716 Intro|         what is meet for producing pleasure, nor even meet for making
717 Text |        length as is suited to give pleasure, if at all, as a secondary


The Symposium
    Part
718 Text |       always gives me the greatest pleasure, to say nothing of the profit.
719 Text |            circumspection that the pleasure be enjoyed, but may not
720 Text |      pleasures and desires, and no pleasure ever masters Love; he is


Theaetetus
    Part
721 Intro|      feeling, happiness or good to pleasure. The different virtues—the
722 Intro|          himself to the pursuit of pleasure, but of this he is to make
723 Intro|         our natural perceptions of pleasure and pain.~There seem then
724 Text |           the sense of heat, cold, pleasure, pain, desire, fear, and
725 Text |          who is not a cook, of the pleasure to be derived from the dinner
726 Text |             for of present or past pleasure we are not as yet arguing;
727 Text |      himself the best judge of the pleasure which will seem to be and


Timaeus
    Part
728 Intro|        love, which is a mixture of pleasure and pain; thirdly, fear
729 Intro|         for the sake of irrational pleasure, but in order that we might
730 Intro|          hardness with inequality.~Pleasure and pain are the most important
731 Intro|   replenishments of the body cause pleasure, and sudden disturbances,
732 Intro|     subject to terrible affections—pleasure, the inciter of evil; pain,
733 Intro|         with them: whence arises a pleasure which even the unwise feel,
734 Intro|      surrounds him and all things.~Pleasure and pain are attributed
735 Intro|          is not attended either by pleasure or pain, but hunger and
736 Text |           must have love, in which pleasure and pain mingle; also fear
737 Text |          with a view to irrational pleasure, which is deemed to be the
738 Text |          only; he will thus gain a pleasure not to be repented of, and
739 Text |   considered—that is, the cause of pleasure and pain in the perceptions
740 Text |            Now we must conceive of pleasure and pain in this way. An
741 Text |          but is not accompanied by pleasure or pain; such, for example,
742 Text |            give pain, nor is there pleasure when the sight returns to
743 Text |     motions to the whole and cause pleasure and pain—pain when alienated
744 Text |            natural conditions, and pleasure when restored to them. Things
745 Text |          no pain, but the greatest pleasure, to the mortal part of the
746 Text |          affections,—first of all, pleasure, the greatest incitement
747 Text |            but only in feelings of pleasure and pain and the desires
748 Text |           and low, whence arises a pleasure which even the unwise feel,
749 Text |            and is accompanied with pleasure rather than with pain.~Now
750 Text |         termed the incontinence of pleasure and is deemed a reproach