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(...) The First Alcibiades
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501 Text |        probably do deeds of darkness.~ALCIBIADES: Very possibly.~SOCRATES:
502 Text |       SOCRATES: For if a man, my dear Alcibiades, has the power to do what
503 Text |              his constitution ruined?~ALCIBIADES: That is true.~SOCRATES:
504 Text |            and to his fellow-sailors?~ALCIBIADES: Yes; I see that they will
505 Text |                in like manner, ensue?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Not
506 Text |       tyrannical power, then, my good Alcibiades, should be the aim either
507 Text |           would be happy, but virtue.~ALCIBIADES: That is true.~SOCRATES:
508 Text |       children? (Compare Arist. Pol.)~ALCIBIADES: That is evident.~SOCRATES:
509 Text |             is better is also nobler?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: And what
510 Text |              nobler is more becoming?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Then
511 Text |             becoming, because better?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: Then vice
512 Text |               only suited to a slave?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And virtue
513 Text |              And virtue to a freeman?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And, O my
514 Text |             of a slave to be avoided?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly, Socrates.~SOCRATES:
515 Text |             you are a freeman or not?~ALCIBIADES: I think that I am very
516 Text |            like to name to my beauty?~ALCIBIADES: Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: How?~
517 Text |             Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: How?~ALCIBIADES: By your help, Socrates.~
518 Text |                That is not well said, Alcibiades.~ALCIBIADES: What ought
519 Text |            not well said, Alcibiades.~ALCIBIADES: What ought I to have said?~
520 Text |         SOCRATES: By the help of God.~ALCIBIADES: I agree; and I further
521 Text |             bird whom I have hatched.~ALCIBIADES: Strange, but true; and


Gorgias
    Part
522 Intro|              the ordinary sense, like Alcibiades or Pericles, but in a higher
523 Intro|               beloved of Socrates are Alcibiades and philosophy. The peculiarity
524 Intro|            who unlike his other love, Alcibiades, is ever the same, ever
525 Intro|             hold of you and my friend Alcibiades, and you will suffer for
526 Text |             apiece:—I am the lover of Alcibiades, the son of Cleinias, and
527 Text |              assail you and my friend Alcibiades, when they are losing not


Menexenus
    Part
528 Pre  |            Funeral Oration, the First Alcibiades. Of these, the Lesser Hippias
529 Pre  |             and of a First and Second Alcibiades, does to a certain extent
530 Pre  |            Republic; or as the Second Alcibiades seems to be founded upon
531 Pre  |          Plato I have added the First Alcibiades, which, of all the disputed
532 Pre  |             relations of Socrates and Alcibiades. Like the Lesser Hippias
533 Pre  |             of the Symposium in which Alcibiades describes himself as self-convicted
534 Pre  |             Plato. We know, too, that Alcibiades was a favourite thesis,
535 Pre  |          writings bearing the name of Alcibiades, we are compelled to suspend


Meno
    Part
536 Intro|           Critias. He is a Thessalian Alcibiades, rich and luxurious— a spoilt
537 Intro|               of the great king. Like Alcibiades he is inspired with an ardent


Protagoras
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538 Intro|               also shared, as well as Alcibiades and Critias, both of whom
539 Intro|             speaking as he likes. But Alcibiades answers that the two cases
540 Intro|              which he is requested by Alcibiades to defer.~The argument is
541 Intro|             the Sophists, showing, as Alcibiades says, that he is only pretending
542 Intro|             towards the end. There is Alcibiades, who is compelled by the
543 Text |               Companion. Hippocrates, Alcibiades and Critias. Protagoras,
544 Text |             been in chase of the fair Alcibiades. I saw him the day before
545 Text |              that is now the charm of Alcibiades.~COMPANION: Well, and how
546 Text |        entered than there followed us Alcibiades the beautiful, as you say,
547 Text |         placed. Meanwhile Callias and Alcibiades got Prodicus out of bed
548 Text |         younger brother of our friend Alcibiades, of whom this very same
549 Text |        Cleinias would be corrupted by Alcibiades, took him away, and placed
550 Text |               to speak in yours.~Here Alcibiades interposed, and said: That,
551 Text |              say what he thinks.~When Alcibiades had done speaking, some
552 Text |              Protagoras: and this led Alcibiades, who loves opposition, to
553 Text |          allow me.~Nay, Hippias, said Alcibiades; not now, but at some other
554 Text |          which he would do. Thereupon Alcibiades turned to Callias, and said:—
555 Text |             ashamed by these words of Alcibiades, and when the prayers of


The Second Alcibiades
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556 -    |                            The Second Alcibiades~ ~
557 Pre  |            the Eryxias and The Second Alcibiades] are not mentioned by Aristotle,
558 Pre  |           interest for us. The Second Alcibiades shows that the difficulties
559 Pre  |             by the name of the Second Alcibiades is a genuine writing of
560 Pre  |              preaches too much, while Alcibiades is stupid and heavy-in-hand.
561 Text |                            The Second Alcibiades~PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:
562 Text |            THE DIALOGUE: Socrates and Alcibiades.~SOCRATES: Are you going,
563 Text |              SOCRATES: Are you going, Alcibiades, to offer prayer to Zeus?~
564 Text |              to offer prayer to Zeus?~ALCIBIADES: Yes, Socrates, I am.~SOCRATES:
565 Text |             thinking about something.~ALCIBIADES: Of what do you suppose
566 Text |               persons and not others?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Do
567 Text |              which I need not dilate?~ALCIBIADES: Yes, Socrates, but you
568 Text |               opposite of discretion?~ALCIBIADES: Of course.~SOCRATES: And
569 Text |              and others the contrary?~ALCIBIADES: They do.~SOCRATES: Well,
570 Text |                and that some are mad?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And again,
571 Text |               some who are in health?~ALCIBIADES: There are.~SOCRATES: While
572 Text |              While others are ailing?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And they
573 Text |            And they are not the same?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
574 Text |             who are in neither state?~ALCIBIADES: No.~SOCRATES: A man must
575 Text |            either be sick or be well?~ALCIBIADES: That is my opinion.~SOCRATES:
576 Text |               and want of discretion?~ALCIBIADES: How do you mean?~SOCRATES:
577 Text |            neither one nor the other?~ALCIBIADES: Decidedly not.~SOCRATES:
578 Text |             be either sane or insane?~ALCIBIADES: So I suppose.~SOCRATES:
579 Text |               opposite of discretion?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And that
580 Text |          discretion and indiscretion?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: And there
581 Text |               opposites to one thing?~ALCIBIADES: There cannot.~SOCRATES:
582 Text |           want of sense are the same?~ALCIBIADES: That appears to be the
583 Text |              in the right, therefore, Alcibiades, if we say that all who
584 Text |               you call mad, are many?~ALCIBIADES: I do.~SOCRATES: But how
585 Text |               not be quite otherwise?~ALCIBIADES: Why, Socrates, how is that
586 Text |            consider the matter thus:—~ALCIBIADES: How?~SOCRATES: I will tell
587 Text |             some are sick; do we not?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And must
588 Text |            only maladies which exist?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
589 Text |              of ophthalmia a disease?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And every
590 Text |             every disease ophthalmia?~ALCIBIADES: Surely not. But I scarcely
591 Text |             we may find what we seek.~ALCIBIADES: I am attending, Socrates,
592 Text |             every disease ophthalmia?~ALCIBIADES: We are.~SOCRATES: And so
593 Text |       illustration from the artizans?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: There
594 Text |              carpenters or sculptors.~ALCIBIADES: No, indeed.~SOCRATES: And
595 Text |              Or what is your opinion?~ALCIBIADES: I agree with you.~SOCRATES:
596 Text |              two classes? Did we not?~ALCIBIADES: To be sure.~SOCRATES: And
597 Text |             ought to be done or said?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: The senseless
598 Text |           those who do not know this?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: The latter
599 Text |          without their own knowledge?~ALCIBIADES: Exactly.~SOCRATES: Oedipus,
600 Text |             Oedipus, as I was saying, Alcibiades, was a person of this sort.
601 Text |             one and the same day that Alcibiades, son of Cleinias, was tyrant:—
602 Text |       obtained the greatest of goods.~ALCIBIADES: And not only I, Socrates,
603 Text |               exchange for your life?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not: for then
604 Text |              bad and mischievous end?~ALCIBIADES: I would not.~SOCRATES:
605 Text |           must have been a wise poet, Alcibiades, who, seeing as I believe,
606 Text |             answer to him, speak out.~ALCIBIADES: It is difficult, Socrates,
607 Text |       respectively a good or an evil?~ALCIBIADES: How do you mean? Can ignorance
608 Text |         believe:—you do not think so?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
609 Text |            done towards their parent.~ALCIBIADES: Good words, Socrates, prithee.~
610 Text |              venture on such a crime?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
611 Text |          would any one else, I fancy?~ALCIBIADES: No.~SOCRATES: That ignorance
612 Text |           does not know what is best?~ALCIBIADES: So I think, at least.~SOCRATES:
613 Text |          ignorant and everybody else?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: Let us take
614 Text |           that what is worst is best?~ALCIBIADES: No.)~SOCRATES:—If, then,
615 Text |              you venture to slay him?~ALCIBIADES: Most decidedly not (it
616 Text |        offered, but Pericles himself?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
617 Text |               would never attack him?~ALCIBIADES: Never.~SOCRATES: Well,
618 Text |             have laid hands upon her?~ALCIBIADES: No.~SOCRATES: He did not
619 Text |             mother, but only his own?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: Ignorance,
620 Text |            mind, and have such ideas?~ALCIBIADES: Obviously.~SOCRATES: You
621 Text |             as you formerly supposed?~ALCIBIADES: I do.~SOCRATES: And there
622 Text |           reading is here uncertain.)~ALCIBIADES: What is that, Socrates?~
623 Text |             confidently to do or say?~ALCIBIADES: Yes, in my opinion.~SOCRATES:
624 Text |               counsel of the orators.~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: But now
625 Text |            the wise from the foolish?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: The many
626 Text |            are foolish, the few wise?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
627 Text |               reference to something?~ALCIBIADES: I do.~SOCRATES: Would you
628 Text |              to carry out the advice?~ALCIBIADES: Decidedly not.~SOCRATES:
629 Text |               to war or for how long?~ALCIBIADES: No.~SOCRATES: Nor, once
630 Text |             or for whom it is better?~ALCIBIADES: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
631 Text |          useful are surely the same?—~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES:—Such an
632 Text |              city. What do you think?~ALCIBIADES: I agree.~SOCRATES: And
633 Text |               riding as a good rider?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And in a
634 Text |           performer in any other art?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: But is
635 Text |              artist and the wise man?~ALCIBIADES: All the difference in the
636 Text |            arts or in regard to whom?~ALCIBIADES: I should call such a state
637 Text |              anarchy and lawlessness?~ALCIBIADES: Decidedly.~SOCRATES: But
638 Text |     confidently propose to do or say?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: And if a
639 Text |            himself and for the state?~ALCIBIADES: True.~SOCRATES: And if
640 Text |            and the state will suffer?~ALCIBIADES: Yes.~SOCRATES: Well, and
641 Text |             the same mind, as before?~ALCIBIADES: I am.~SOCRATES: But were
642 Text |              unwise and the few wise?~ALCIBIADES: I was.~SOCRATES: And have
643 Text |               devoid of intelligence?~ALCIBIADES: That is the case.~SOCRATES:
644 Text |           losers rather than gainers?~ALCIBIADES: What you say is very true.~
645 Text |            the knowledge of the best?~ALCIBIADES: I do now, if I did not
646 Text |     pseudo-Homeric poem, ‘Margites.’)~ALCIBIADES: How in the world, Socrates,
647 Text |         argument has played us false.~ALCIBIADES: But I do not think that
648 Text |             are right in thinking so.~ALCIBIADES: Well, that is my opinion.~
649 Text |         advantage of the opportunity?~ALCIBIADES: Indeed, Socrates, I could
650 Text |               though we asked for it?~ALCIBIADES: I believe that you are
651 Text |               is about these matters.~ALCIBIADES: I agree, Socrates, with
652 Text |             you were asking for good?~ALCIBIADES: I do.~SOCRATES: You see,
653 Text |             the Gods and towards men.~ALCIBIADES: And how long must I wait,
654 Text |            this is beyond your power.~ALCIBIADES: Only let my instructor
655 Text |              a wondrous care for you.~ALCIBIADES: It seems to be altogether
656 Text |               such a tremendous risk.~ALCIBIADES: But how shall we manage,


The Symposium
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657 Intro|               court, and the voice of Alcibiades is heard asking for Agathon.
658 Intro|              is requested to appease. Alcibiades then insists that they shall
659 Intro|              too, as he has convinced Alcibiades, and made him ashamed of
660 Intro|         another occasion he had saved Alcibiades’ life; how at the battle
661 Intro|             the divinest truths.~When Alcibiades has done speaking, a dispute
662 Intro|             Socrates. Socrates piques Alcibiades by a pretended affection
663 Intro|              rhythms of his verse; of Alcibiades, who is the same strange
664 Intro|            extraordinary narrative of Alcibiades is ingeniously represented
665 Intro|        confirmed by the mention which Alcibiades makes of a similar fit of
666 Intro|             to this extreme idealism, Alcibiades, accompanied by a troop
667 Intro|            men of Hellas, e.g. Cimon, Alcibiades, Critias, Demosthenes, Epaminondas:
668 Intro|          Timarchum.)~The character of Alcibiades in the Symposium is hardly
669 Intro|            the Republic (compare also Alcibiades 1).~There is no criterion
670 Text |      Aristophanes, Agathon, Socrates, Alcibiades, A Troop of Revellers.~SCENE:
671 Text |           were delivered by Socrates, Alcibiades, and others, at Agathon’
672 Text |               of Mantineia (compare 1 Alcibiades), a woman wise in this and
673 Text |               they heard the voice of Alcibiades resounding in the court;
674 Text |             who made way for him, and Alcibiades took the vacant place between
675 Text |           partner in our revels? said Alcibiades, turning round and starting
676 Text |              between you and me, said Alcibiades; but for the present I will
677 Text |             Observe, my friends, said Alcibiades, that this ingenious trick
678 Text |       Eryximachus said: What is this, Alcibiades? Are we to have neither
679 Text |          drink as if we were thirsty?~Alcibiades replied: Hail, worthy son
680 Text |             That I leave to you, said Alcibiades.~‘The wise physician skilled
681 Text |               good, Eryximachus, said Alcibiades; and yet the comparison
682 Text |                Hold your tongue, said Alcibiades, for by Poseidon, there
683 Text |              think, Eryximachus? said Alcibiades: shall I attack him and
684 Text |              will begin at once, said Alcibiades, and if I say anything which
685 Text |               characteristic of him:—‘Alcibiades, my friend, you have indeed
686 Text |               the proverb says.’~When Alcibiades had finished, there was
687 Text |              Socrates. You are sober, Alcibiades, said Socrates, or you would
688 Text |            couch below me.~Alas, said Alcibiades, how I am fooled by this
689 Text |         Socrates.~The usual way, said Alcibiades; where Socrates is, no one