The Apology
    Part
  1 Intro|          description of Xenophon, who says in the Memorabilia that
  2 Intro|           ignorant of them, and never says a word about them. Nor is
  3 Intro|               of the indictment which says that he teaches men not
  4 Intro|               and moon?’ ‘No; why, he says that the sun is a stone,
  5 Intro|        position?~For example, when he says that it is absurd to suppose
  6 Intro|           regarded as sophistical. He says that ‘if he has corrupted
  7 Text |             it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks falsely,
  8 Text |              then can he mean when he says that I am the wisest of
  9 Text |            something of this kind: It says that Socrates is a doer
 10 Text |             the particular counts. He says that I am a doer of evil,
 11 Text |              that he does not: for he says that the sun is stone, and
 12 Text |               with whom I am arguing, says: Yes, but I do care; then
 13 Text |               virtue in him, but only says that he has, I reproach
 14 Text |    mischievous person. But if any one says that this is not my teaching,
 15 Text |              anything. And if any one says that he has ever learned
 16 Text |              wood or stone,’ as Homer says; and I have a family, yes,


Charmides
    Part
 17 PreS |             by him. ‘I cannot think,’ says Dr. Jackson, ‘that Plato
 18 PreS |          described by himself when he says that ‘words are more plastic
 19 PreS |            perfect notion of them. He says (J. of Philol.) that ‘Plato
 20 Intro|        quickness.’ He tries again and says (2) that temperance is modesty.
 21 Text |              king, who is also a god, says further, ‘that as you ought
 22 Text |              agree with Homer when he says,~‘Modesty is not good for
 23 Text |               own business,’ and then says that there is no reason
 24 Text |              learned from Hesiod, who says that ‘work is no disgrace.’
 25 Text |           does not know that which he says that he knows: he will only
 26 Text |              consider whether what he says is true, and whether what


Cratylus
    Part
 27 Intro|            the truest things which he says are depreciated by himself.
 28 Intro|             grow.’ But still, when he says that ‘the legislator made
 29 Intro|             he would have said, as he says of the names of the Gods,
 30 Intro|         dreaming; he has heard, as he says in the Phaedrus, from another:
 31 Intro|              and which, as Anaxagoras says, is borrowed from the sun;
 32 Intro|          little to little,” as Hesiod says.’ Socrates here interposes
 33 Text |               arguing about names; he says that they are natural and
 34 Text |                And a true proposition says that which is, and a false
 35 Text |               and a false proposition says that which is not?~HERMOGENES:
 36 Text |               each thing as everybody says that there are? and will
 37 Text |           Protagoras tells us? For he says that man is the measure
 38 Text |               Do you not know what he says about the river in Troy
 39 Text |             Hephaestus?~‘Whom,’ as he says, ‘the Gods call Xanthus,
 40 Text |           about the bird which, as he says,~‘The Gods call Chalcis,
 41 Text |               And Homer, as you know, says that the Trojan men called
 42 Text |             very good reason, when he says,~‘For he alone defended
 43 Text |               Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: He says of them—~‘But now that fate
 44 Text |              this, because he further says that we are the iron race.~
 45 Text |            the stream of a river, and says that you cannot go into
 46 Text |         Hesiod.).’~And again, Orpheus says, that~‘The fair river of
 47 Text |              meaning in what Cratylus says.~SOCRATES: I should imagine
 48 Text |            this name: ‘O my friends,’ says he to us, ‘seeing that he
 49 Text |              quarrel. For one of them says that justice is the sun,
 50 Text |            his own honest opinion, he says, ‘Fire in the abstract’;
 51 Text |            very intelligible. Another says, ‘No, not fire in the abstract,
 52 Text |             to laugh at all this, and says, as Anaxagoras says, that
 53 Text |               and says, as Anaxagoras says, that justice is mind, for
 54 Text |             Cratylus mystifies me; he says that there is a fitness
 55 Text |                indeed; but, as Hesiod says, and I agree with him, ‘
 56 Text |             Achilles in the ‘Prayers’ says to Ajax,—~‘Illustrious Ajax,
 57 Text |            resemblance, as Hermogenes says, is a shabby thing, which


Critias
    Part
 58 Intro|               of America. ‘The tale,’ says M. Martin, ‘rests upon the
 59 Intro|         pursuits of men and women, he says nothing of the community


Euthydemus
    Part
 60 Intro|        question Cleinias. ‘Cleinias,’ says Euthydemus, ‘who learn,
 61 Intro|              wisdom be taught? ‘Yes,’ says Cleinias. The ingenuousness
 62 Intro|               wisdom.’ ‘That I will,’ says Cleinias.~After Socrates
 63 Intro|              joke, and Ctesippus then says that he is not reviling
 64 Intro|            contradicting them. ‘But,’ says Dionysodorus, ‘there is
 65 Intro|               of his puppies.’~‘But,’ says Euthydemus, unabashed, ‘
 66 Intro|           them in wrong places. ‘No,’ says Ctesippus, ‘there cannot
 67 Text |            ritual, which, as Prodicus says, begins with initiation
 68 Text |         things?~Certainly.~And he who says that thing says that which
 69 Text |            And he who says that thing says that which is?~Yes.~And
 70 Text |             which is?~Yes.~And he who says that which is, says the
 71 Text |               who says that which is, says the truth. And therefore
 72 Text |         therefore Dionysodorus, if he says that which is, says the
 73 Text |             if he says that which is, says the truth of you and no
 74 Text |                but in saying this, he says what is not.~Euthydemus
 75 Text |                He agreed.~Then no one says that which is not, for in
 76 Text |              your own showing, no one says what is false; but if Dionysodorus
 77 Text |            false; but if Dionysodorus says anything, he says what is
 78 Text |        Dionysodorus says anything, he says what is true and what is.~
 79 Text |                For then neither of us says a word about the thing at
 80 Text |              water,’ which, as Pindar says, is the ‘best of all things,’
 81 Text |             man ought to be loved who says and manfully pursues and


Euthyphro
    Part
 82 Intro|           sacrifices. In other words, says Socrates, piety is ‘a science
 83 Intro|          enemy of Meletus, who, as he says, is availing himself of
 84 Text |      certainly not to be despised. He says he knows how the youth are
 85 Text |          hearing excites surprise: he says that I am a poet or maker


The First Alcibiades
    Part
 86 Intro|              politics, even if, as he says, they are concerned with
 87 Text |             SOCRATES: Which of us now says that two is more than one?~
 88 Text |         Alcibiades, as the comic poet says, the neighbours hardly knew
 89 Text |             the king, he refuses, and says that he is well enough as


Gorgias
    Part
 90 Intro|          things are true, then, as he says with real emotion, the foundations
 91 Intro|                And now, as he himself says, we will ‘resume the argument
 92 Intro|              to detect; of course, he says, the rhetorician, like every
 93 Intro|              is the art of Rhetoric?’ says Polus. Not an art at all,
 94 Intro|              yes,’ but not by nature, says Callicles. And Socrates
 95 Intro|             of nature. For convention says that ‘injustice is dishonourable,’
 96 Intro|            dishonourable,’ but nature says that ‘might is right.’ And
 97 Intro|          justice shines forth. Pindar says, ‘Law, the king of all,
 98 Intro|              Every man,’ as Euripides says, ‘is fondest of that in
 99 Intro|               I say to you, as Zethus says to Amphion in the play,
100 Intro|         nothing are not happy. ‘Why,’ says Callicles, ‘if they were,
101 Intro|              Who knows,’ as Euripides says, ‘whether life may not be
102 Intro|            his own questions. ‘Then,’ says Socrates, ‘one man must
103 Intro|               punished. Though, as he says in the Phaedo, no man of
104 Intro|               authority of Homer, who says that Odysseus saw Minos
105 Intro|       disappointed. Then, as Socrates says, the cry of ingratitude
106 Text |              wise man, as the proverb says, is late for a fray, but
107 Text |             as the writer of the song says, wealth honestly obtained.~
108 Text |            are apt to arise —somebody says that another has not spoken
109 Text |               refute any one else who says what is not true, and quite
110 Text |              refutation,—when any one says anything, instead of refuting
111 Text |               for the son of Cleinias says one thing to-day and another
112 Text |          sentiment of Pindar, when he says in his poem, that~‘Law is
113 Text |               immortals;’~this, as he says,~‘Makes might to be right,
114 Text |         philosophy. For, as Euripides says,~‘Every man shines in that
115 Text |   market-place, in which, as the poet says, men become distinguished;
116 Text |               these topics, or he who says without any qualification
117 Text |             Callicles, the Acharnian, says that pleasure and good are
118 Text |            Will not the good man, who says whatever he says with a
119 Text |             man, who says whatever he says with a view to the best,
120 Text |             therefore, if my opponent says anything which is of force,
121 Text |             just men gentle, as Homer says?—or are you of another mind?~
122 Text |            advantages. And if any one says that I corrupt young men,


Ion
    Part
123 Text |           interpret better what Homer says, or what Hesiod says, about
124 Text |            Homer says, or what Hesiod says, about these matters in
125 Text |              the Muses, as he himself says. For in this way the God
126 Text |             Tell me then, what Nestor says to Antilochus, his son,
127 Text |                ION: ‘Bend gently,’ he says, ‘in the polished chariot
128 Text |               Machaon a posset, as he says,~‘Made with Pramnian wine;
129 Text |              SOCRATES: And when Homer says,~‘And she descended into
130 Text |              of the house of Melampus says to the suitors:—~‘Wretched
131 Text |            near the rampart, where he says:—~‘As they were eager to


Laches
    Part
132 Intro|               this showing, as Nicias says, how little he knows the
133 Text |            with public affairs. As he says, such persons are too apt
134 Text |               being ridiculous, if he says that he has this sort of
135 Text |             teachers. Or if any of us says that he has no teacher,
136 Text |           friend, and, as the proverb says, ‘break the large vessel
137 Text |              his after-life; as Solon says, he will wish and desire
138 Text |             as pursuing; and as Homer says in praise of the horses
139 Text |            would know, as the proverb says, and therefore he could
140 Text |               authority of Homer, who says, that~‘Modesty is not good


Laws
    Book
141 1    |             eager about war: Well, he says, “I sing not, I care not,
142 1    |              take kindly what another says.~Cleinias. You are quite
143 1    |             from God; and any one who says the contrary is not to be
144 2    |          lives in misery? As the poet says, and with truth: I sing
145 2    |              of songs?~Cleinias. But, says the argument, we cannot
146 2    |          Athenian. Then, when any one says that music is to be judged
147 2    |              of those who, as Orpheus says, “are ripe for true pleasure.”
148 3    |          third form arose when, as he says, Dardanus founded Dardania:~
149 3    |                Yes; and the tradition says, that the empire came back
150 3    |             shall not, as the proverb says, fall off our ass. Let us
151 4    |              gets angry with him, and says:~Who, at a time when the
152 4    |             the wisdom of Hesiod, who says that the road to wickedness
153 5    |              know, as the old proverb says; but only a man of experience
154 6    |          possible. For as the proverb says, “a good beginning is half
155 6    |              if a judge is silent and says no more in preliminary proceedings
156 6    |         appropriate. For, as Cleinias says, every law should have a
157 6    |              poets, speaking of Zeus, says:~ Far–seeing Zeus takes
158 6    |            and rebels against him who says that he must not satisfy
159 9    |    contentious or disputatious person says that men are unjust against
160 9    |            the injury. And if any one says that the slave and the wounded
161 10   |               be as follows:—Some one says to me, “O Stranger, are
162 10   |           therefore, whether a person says that these things are to
163 11   |            the common tradition which says that such deeds prevent
164 11   |              Gods to witness, when he says or does anything false or
165 11   |            too, as the Delphic oracle says, to know yourselves at this
166 11   |       Athenian. Oedipus, as tradition says, when dishonoured by his
167 11   |               him sue the person, who says that he has been injured,
168 11   |               bear witness, but if he says he does not know let him
169 12   |         original arms, which the poet says were presented to Peleus
170 12   |         weapons of defence? Tradition says that Caeneus, the Thessalian,
171 12   |           claim to them, and some one says that he was looking for
172 12   |              is to obey the law which says, “Do no service for a bribe,”
173 12   |              Athenian. As the proverb says, the answer is no secret,


Lysis
    Part
174 Intro|           their doctrines; for Hesiod says that ‘potter is jealous
175 Text |            love of the person whom he says that you love?~No; but I
176 Text |              authority of Hesiod, who says:~‘Potter quarrels with potter,
177 Text |           friend,’ as the old proverb says. Beauty is certainly a soft,


Menexenus
    Part
178 Intro|              seriously in all that he says, and Plato, both in the


Meno
    Part
179 Intro|             ouses). Modern philosophy says that all things in nature
180 Intro|            are seen. The common logic says ‘the greater the extension,
181 Intro|               of necessity. Truth, he says, is the direction of the
182 Text |          SOCRATES: And now, as Pindar says, ‘read my meaning:’—colour
183 Text |              for himself; so the poet says, and I say too—~‘Virtue
184 Text |            but that Theognis the poet says the very same thing?~MENO:
185 Text |            verses he shifts about and says (Theog.):~‘If understanding
186 Text |           among the living what Homer says that Tiresias was among


Parmenides
    Part
187 Intro|               unmeaningness of this,’ says Socrates, ‘and would rather
188 Intro|              serious one, as he truly says; nor could I urge him to
189 Intro|             they appear to him, as he says in the Philebus also, to
190 Intro|           alludes (Met.), when, as he says, he transferred the Socratic
191 Intro|             hopeless or insoluble. He says only that they cannot be
192 Intro|               a natural realism which says, ‘Can there be a word devoid
193 Text |              and he on the other hand says There is no many; and on
194 Text |             must indulge you, as Zeno says that I ought, and we are
195 Text |               be sure.~And so when he says ‘If one is not’ he clearly
196 Text |              not?~Yes, we do.~When he says ‘one,’ he says something
197 Text |                When he says ‘one,’ he says something which is known;


Phaedo
    Part
198 Intro|            Republic.) ‘I was afraid,’ says Socrates, ‘that I might
199 Intro|               I use the illustration, says Socrates, because I want
200 Intro|              writings of Plato, which says that first principles should
201 Intro|              material. As Goethe also says, ‘He is dead even in this
202 Intro|             difficulty which Socrates says that he experienced in explaining
203 Text |             to talk much, talking, he says, increases heat, and this
204 Text |          excels the body. Well, then, says the argument to me, why
205 Text |              after his death somebody says:—He is not dead, he must
206 Text |              his hearers that what he says is true, I am rather seeking
207 Text |              alleged; and if a person says to me that the bloom of
208 Text |              to start, as the proverb says, at my own shadow, I cannot
209 Text |            world is not, as Aeschylus says in the Telephus, a single
210 Text |             account. We must do as he says, Crito; and therefore let


Phaedrus
    Part
211 Intro|              apocryphal sacred writer says that the power which thus
212 Intro|           truth; as a Spartan proverb says, ‘true art is truth’; whereas
213 Intro|               Socrates’ manner, as he says, ‘in order to please Phaedrus.’
214 Intro|    discussions about love, what Plato says of the loves of men must
215 Intro|           Socrates, lest, as Phaedrus says, the argument should be
216 Text |              the Delphian inscription says; to be curious about that
217 Text |             is wrong in his mind, but says that he is unable to control
218 Text |            companion. The old proverb says that ‘birds of a feather
219 Text |           wanton steed of the beloved says not a word, for he is bursting
220 Text |                a Spartan appears, and says that there never is nor
221 Text |             Hippocrates the Asclepiad says that the nature even of
222 Text |          truth as well as Hippocrates says about this or about any
223 Text |               by rules of art, he who says ‘I don’t believe you’ has
224 Text |             the wolf,’ as the proverb says, ‘claim a hearing’?~PHAEDRUS:
225 Text |           into court, and then Tisias says that both parties should


Philebus
    Part
226 Intro|          pleasures; and here the Muse says ‘Enough.’~‘Bidding farewell
227 Intro|               ancestors spoke,’ as he says, appealing to tradition,
228 Intro|            agree with him in part. He says that the numbers which the
229 Intro| generalization, seeking, as Aristotle says, for the universal in Ethics (
230 Intro|             the laws of human nature, says one; resting on the will
231 Intro|           resting on the will of God, says another; based upon some
232 Intro|        animates more worlds than one, says a third:~on nomoi prokeintai
233 Intro|            are refuted in their turn, says the sceptic, and he looks
234 Intro|              All philosophies remain, says the thinker; they have done
235 Text |             herself, of whom Philebus says that she is called Aphrodite,
236 Text |               you mean, when a person says that I, Protarchus, am by
237 Text |     confessing that they are all one, says laughingly in disproof of
238 Text |      PROTARCHUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then, says the argument, there is never
239 Text |        suppose to be my meaning; but, says the argument, understand
240 Text |              every other; this, as he says, is by far the best of them
241 Text |               already mentioned. Well says the proverb, that we ought
242 Text |              hear.~SOCRATES: Philebus says that pleasure is the true
243 Text |             denying this, and further says, that in nature as in name
244 Text |         SOCRATES: And now, as Orpheus says,~‘With the sixth generation


Protagoras
    Part
245 Intro|         contradiction. First the poet says,~‘Hard is it to become good,’~
246 Intro|        designed to controvert it. No, says he, Pittacus; not ‘hard
247 Intro|               This is admitted. Then, says Socrates, courage is knowledge—
248 Intro|              work, which, as Socrates says of the poem of Simonides,
249 Intro|              and appears to be, as he says of himself, the ‘least jealous
250 Intro|                showing, as Alcibiades says, that he is only pretending
251 Intro|              way, which, as Theodorus says in the Theaetetus, are quite
252 Text |               of Homer’s opinion, who says~‘Youth is most charming
253 Text |            order.~After him, as Homer says (Od.), ‘I lifted up my eyes
254 Text |               you are aware, if a man says that he is a good flute-player,
255 Text |            man is out of his mind who says anything else. Their notion
256 Text |     assertions shall we renounce? One says that everything has but
257 Text |              of a poet. Now Simonides says to Scopas the son of Creon
258 Text |               agree with him, when he says, ‘Hardly can a man be good,’
259 Text |            yet when he blames him who says the same with himself, he
260 Text |               repeating that which he says himself, but for saying
261 Text |             does not say as Simonides says, that hardly can a man become
262 Text |           others would say, as Hesiod says,~‘On the one hand, hardly
263 Text |              the context, in which he says that God only has this gift.
264 Text |       answering him): ‘O my friends,’ says Pittacus, ‘hard is it to
265 Text |             will. And Simonides never says that he praises him who
266 Text |                For I am satisfied’ he says, ‘when a man is neither
267 Text |            state.~(‘I do not hope’ he says, ‘to find a perfectly blameless
268 Text |              his fingers, and then he says, Uncover your chest and
269 Text |                I said, that the world says to me: ‘Why do you spend
270 Text |             in degree? For if any one says: ‘Yes, Socrates, but immediate


The Republic
    Book
271 1    |           feather, as the old proverb says; and at our meetings the
272 1    |              hold, then, as Sophocles says, we are freed from the grasp
273 1    |            hope, as Pindar charmingly says, is the kind nurse of his
274 1    |               of his age: ~"Hope," he says, "cherishes the soul of
275 1    |              Socrates. ~Then if a man says that justice consists in
276 1    |          anyone answer who knows, and says that he knows, just nothing;
277 1    |         others, to whom he never even says, Thank you. ~That I learn
278 1    |            mind, I replied, if he now says that they are, let us accept
279 1    |      considers in everything which he says and does. ~When we had got
280 1    |        present; but when Thrasymachus says that the life of the unjust
281 2    |     simplicity, wishing, as AEschylus says, to be and not to seem good.
282 2    |              Homer, the first of whom says that the gods make the oaks
283 2    |        influenced by men; for he also says: ~"The gods, too, may be
284 2    |            lie too-I mean what Hesiod says that Uranus did, and how
285 2    |             AEschylus in which Thetis says that Apollo at her nuptials ~"
286 3    |         insolence to Apollo, where he says, ~"Thou hast wronged me,
287 3    |             Iliad," in which the poet says that Chryses prayed Agamemnon
288 3    |            auxiliaries. For an oracle says that when a man of brass
289 4    |             in common, as the proverb says. ~That will be the best
290 4    |               intact. And when anyone says that mankind most regard ~"
291 4    |             can quite believe him; he says that when modes of music
292 5    |                 Well, I said, the law says that when a man is acquitted
293 6    |              cut in pieces anyone who says the contrary. They throng
294 6    |            than human, as the proverb says, is not included: for I
295 8    |     indifference, she is annoyed, and says to her son that his father
296 8    |         another man who, as AEschylus says, ~"Is set over against another
297 8    |             word of advice; if anyone says to him that some pleasures
298 8    |            him he shakes his head and says that they are all alike,
299 8    |            and starts to his feet and says and does whatever comes
300 8    |        account and punishes them, and says that they are cursed oligarchs. ~
301 8    |                 Why not, as AEschylus says, utter the word which rises
302 8    |              she-dogs, as the proverb says, are as good as their she-mistresses,
303 9    |           fought about as Stesichorus says that the Greeks fought about
304 9    |             the approver of injustice says. ~To him the supporter of
305 10   |          benefited by others; but who says that you have been a good
306 10   |               boldly denies this, and says that the dying do really


The Second Alcibiades
    Part
307 Text |             use auspicious words, who says that you would not be willing


The Seventh Letter
    Part
308 Text |       handbook, very different, so he says, from the doctrines which
309 Text |             it-God wot, as the Theban says; for I gave him the teaching,
310 Text |            any of the things which he says, I shall have accomplished


The Sophist
    Part
311 Intro|             He had once thought as he says, speaking by the mouth of
312 Intro|              current. When Protagoras says, ‘I confess that I am a
313 Intro|             in the Statesman, when he says that we should divide in
314 Intro|         principles, until, as he also says in the Statesman, we arrive
315 Intro|              in the Phaedrus, when he says that the dialectician will
316 Intro|              thinking of this when he says that Being comprehends Not-being.
317 Intro|     Philosopher, statesman, sophist,’ says Socrates, repeating the
318 Intro|           Socrates.~We are agreed, he says, about the name Sophist,
319 Intro|              You will never find,’ he says, ‘that not-being is.’ And
320 Intro|             in quality, for the first says of you that which is true,
321 Intro|               is true, and the second says of you that which is not
322 Intro|         sometimes from another. As he says at the end of the Fifth
323 Intro|         dominion of a single idea. He says to himself, for example,
324 Intro|          chronology;—if, as Aristotle says, there were Atomists before
325 Intro|     possibilities, which, as he truly says, have no place in philosophy.
326 Text |              of a stranger? For Homer says that all the gods, and especially
327 Text |         escape us, for as the proverb says, when every way is blocked,
328 Text |              STRANGER: And when a man says that he knows all things,
329 Text |     THEAETETUS: Why?~STRANGER: He who says that falsehood exists has
330 Text |        assenting to imply that he who says something must say some
331 Text |        Exactly.~STRANGER: Then he who says ‘not something’ must say
332 Text |           admit that a man speaks and says nothing, he who says ‘not-being’
333 Text |              and says nothing, he who says ‘not-being’ does not speak
334 Text |             name of nothing, or if he says that it is the name of something,
335 Text |           infinite trouble to him who says that being is either one
336 Text |              one, and if any one else says that what is not a body
337 Text |             STRANGER: Why, because he says—~‘Not-being never is, and
338 Text |         enquiry.’~THEAETETUS: Yes, he says so.~STRANGER: Whereas, we
339 Text |              argument, and when a man says that the same is in a manner
340 Text |           faint heart, as the proverb says, will never take a city:
341 Text |                STRANGER: When any one says ‘A man learns,’ should you
342 Text |              true.~STRANGER: The true says what is true about you?~
343 Text |               STRANGER: And the false says what is other than true?~


The Statesman
    Part
344 Intro|            experience, as the proverb says, that ‘the more haste the
345 Intro|             is very well aware, as he says in the Cratylus, that there
346 Intro|          Rather, as in the Phaedo, he says, ‘Something of the kind
347 Intro|             bad.’ For, as Heracleitus says, ‘One is ten thousand if
348 Text |              of man was, as tradition says, spontaneous, is as follows:


The Symposium
    Part
349 Intro|            then takes up the tale:—He says that Phaedrus should have
350 Intro|             in them. When Eryximachus says that the principles of music
351 Intro|               German philosopher, who says that ‘philosophy is home
352 Intro|               sickness.’ When Agathon says that no man ‘can be wronged
353 Intro|               to them. As Eryximachus says, ‘he makes a fair beginning,
354 Intro|         compare Plato, Laws, where he says that in the most corrupt
355 Text |          business to know all that he says and does. There was a time
356 Text |             of Phaedrus. For often he says to me in an indignant tone:—‘
357 Text |            that he had any. As Hesiod says:—~‘First Chaos came, and
358 Text |               courage which, as Homer says, the god breathes into the
359 Text |              are not accurate; for he says that The One is united by
360 Text |               Ephialtes who, as Homer says, dared to scale heaven,
361 Text |               to like, as the proverb says. Many things were said by
362 Text |              his tenderness, as Homer says of Ate, that she is a goddess
363 Text |           speech into stone, as Homer says (Odyssey), and strike me
364 Text |              Therefore, when a person says, I am well and wish to be
365 Text |             sober. Yet as the proverb says, ‘In vino veritas,’ whether
366 Text |            experience, as the proverb says.’~When Alcibiades had finished,


Theaetetus
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367 Intro|            mathematician, as Socrates says in the Republic, is not
368 Intro|              attributed to him, never says that he has been misunderstood:
369 Intro|     Theaetetus to sit by them.~‘Yes,’ says Socrates, ‘that I may see
370 Intro|               to examine into what he says, and the subject should
371 Intro|  distinguished from them. ‘At first,’ says Socrates in his character
372 Intro|     expressing the same thing when he says, “Man is the measure of
373 Intro|              therefore, as Protagoras says, “To myself I am the judge
374 Intro|        Theaetetus will not be angry,’ says Theodorus; ‘he is very good-natured.
375 Intro|            one of your eyes; and now, says he, you see and do not see,
376 Intro|              the inner man, as Pindar says, is going on a voyage of
377 Intro|             others call him rogue, he says to himself: ‘They only mean
378 Intro|            fanatics, and each of them says of the other that they have
379 Intro|      interrogate him further. When he says that ‘knowledge is in perception,’
380 Intro|               as Aristotle (De Anim.) says, citing a verse of Empedocles, ‘
381 Intro|           good (for anything which he says to the contrary) as a rationale
382 Intro|            sugkechumenon ti, as Plato says (Republic), until number
383 Text |              your face, for Theodorus says that we are alike; and yet
384 Text |         should enquire whether he who says that we are alike is a painter
385 Text |            Theaetetus, what Theodorus says? The philosopher, whom you
386 Text |             of expressing it. Man, he says, is the measure of all things,
387 Text |              men?~THEAETETUS: Yes, he says so.~SOCRATES: A wise man
388 Text |              so that whether a person says that a thing is or becomes,
389 Text |             being; and, as Protagoras says, to myself I am judge of
390 Text |           Well, and shall we do as he says?~THEODORUS: By all means.~
391 Text |                 THEODORUS: Yes, so he says.~SOCRATES: And are not we,
392 Text |           tens of thousands, as Homer says, who give me a world of
393 Text |          flying all abroad’ as Pindar says, measuring earth and heaven
394 Text |           heart of the soul, as Homer says in a parable, meaning to
395 Text |               my name:—Theaetetus, he says, what is SO?~THEAETETUS:
396 Text |             in the opinion of him who says that the syllable can be
397 Text |              subject; and if some one says that the syllable is known
398 Text |              for example, when Hesiod says that a waggon is made up


Timaeus
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399 Intro|            They had plenty of ideas,’ says Dr. Whewell, ‘and plenty
400 Intro|               language, as he himself says, partaking of his own uncertainty
401 Intro|                 1) that Plato nowhere says that his proportion is to
402 Intro|          tempore finxit Deus mundum,’ says St. Augustine, repeating
403 Intro|              of space; because, as he says, all things must necessarily
404 Intro|               place. They are not, he says, to be explained by ‘above’
405 Intro|              replied that Plato never says that the earth goes round
406 Intro|            are in vain (Laws—where he says that warm baths would be
407 Intro|             Philebus. When the writer says (Stob. Eclog.) that all
408 Intro|           Plato? Or when the Egyptian says—‘Hereafter at our leisure
409 Intro|                It is not improbable,’ says Mr. Grote, ‘that Solon did
410 Text |             too, Socrates, as Timaeus says, will not be wanting in
411 Text |               Dropides, as he himself says in many passages of his
412 Text |              the world, when a person says that any of these points