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Charmides
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1 PreF | Professor Thompson’s ‘Phaedrus;’ Th. Martin’s ‘Etudes sur
2 PreF | as genuine, e.g. in the Phaedrus, or Symposium, when compared
3 PreS | the dialogues, such as the Phaedrus, the Sophist, and the Parmenides,
4 Intro| the same ‘quality’ as the Phaedrus and Symposium: and it is
Cratylus
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5 Intro| educated contemporary. In the Phaedrus and Euthydemus we also find
6 Intro| but to the Cratylus and Phaedrus more than any others. See
7 Intro| more than any others. See Phaedrus, Introduction.~There is
8 Intro| the ‘dithyrambics of the Phaedrus.’ They are mysteries of
9 Intro| the early dawn (compare Phaedrus and Lysias; Phaedr.) and
10 Intro| remind us strongly of the Phaedrus. The jest is a long one,
11 Intro| conception of mythology. (Compare Phaedrus.)~When the fervour of his
12 Intro| heard, as he says in the Phaedrus, from another: no one is
13 Intro| interpretation of the myths in the Phaedrus, the task ‘of a not very
14 Intro| dialogues, especially to the Phaedrus and Euthydemus. The manner
15 Text | may be all referred (cf. Phaedrus); and hence we shall see
Euthydemus
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16 Intro| graphically described in the Phaedrus; the nature of words is
17 Intro| answers of Cleinias (compare Phaedrus). The name of the grandson
The First Alcibiades
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18 Pre | ones, say the Protagoras or Phaedrus with the Laws. Or who can
19 Pre | would be at the end of the Phaedrus. The satirical opening and
20 Pre | like the speeches in the Phaedrus, and cannot therefore be
21 Pre | expressly mentioned in the Phaedrus, and this may have suggested
22 Pre | appears not only in the Phaedrus, but in the Protagoras,
Gorgias
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23 Intro| Compare Introduction to the Phaedrus.)~Two tendencies seem to
24 Intro| indications of the text.~Like the Phaedrus, the Gorgias has puzzled
25 Intro| is again mentioned in the Phaedrus, as the inventor of balanced
26 Intro| As in the Protagoras and Phaedrus, throwing aside the veil
27 Intro| ones: these occur in the Phaedrus, Phaedo, Gorgias, and Republic.
28 Intro| magnificent myth in the Phaedrus treats of the immortality,
29 Intro| at the beginning of the Phaedrus, which is a parody of the
30 Intro| and of Theuth, both in the Phaedrus: (8) the parable of the
31 Intro| equalled.~The myth in the Phaedrus is even greater than the
32 Intro| spread as the other. In the Phaedrus it is really a figure of
33 Intro| to believe them (compare Phaedrus). As in conversation too,
Lysis
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34 Intro| subject is continued in the Phaedrus and Symposium, and treated,
Menexenus
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35 Pre | ones, say the Protagoras or Phaedrus with the Laws. Or who can
36 Pre | would be at the end of the Phaedrus. The satirical opening and
37 Pre | like the speeches in the Phaedrus, and cannot therefore be
38 Pre | expressly mentioned in the Phaedrus, and this may have suggested
39 Pre | appears not only in the Phaedrus, but in the Protagoras,
40 Intro| the latter, to whom in the Phaedrus Plato shows a strong antipathy,
41 Intro| their own line, as in the Phaedrus he may be supposed to offer
42 Intro| of physical force which Phaedrus uses towards Socrates. Nor
43 Intro| is run away with; in the Phaedrus he has heard somebody say
44 Intro| Menexenus like that in the Phaedrus is to be attributed to Socrates.
Meno
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45 Intro| here, as in the Ion and Phaedrus, Plato appears to acknowledge
46 Intro| form than in the Phaedo and Phaedrus. Nothing is said of the
47 Intro| are carried further in the Phaedrus and Phaedo; the distinction
48 Intro| Protagoras, and earlier than the Phaedrus and Gorgias. The place which
49 Intro| described elsewhere, e.g. in the Phaedrus, Phaedo, Republic; to which
50 Intro| inheritance of the past. In the Phaedrus, as well as in the Meno,
51 Intro| The one and many of the Phaedrus and Theaetetus is still
52 Intro| special divine act (compare Phaedrus), and he also supposes all
53 Intro| preconcerted harmony (compare again Phaedrus). To him all the particles
Parmenides
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54 Intro| tales or anything else,’ Phaedrus); thirdly, that no reliance
55 Intro| tour de force,’ as in the Phaedrus, dissimilar themes, yet
56 Intro| love and dialectic of the Phaedrus. We cannot conceive that
57 Intro| exception of the Meno, the Phaedrus, the Phaedo, and in portions
58 Intro| which is described in the Phaedrus and Philebus, and of which
59 Intro| just as the speeches in the Phaedrus are an imitation of the
60 Intro| illustrated by his genius; in the Phaedrus the nature of division is
Phaedo
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61 Intro| company of the gods. (Compare Phaedrus.) This is the reason why
62 Intro| Simmias is described in the Phaedrus as fonder of an argument
63 Intro| roughly corresponds to the Phaedrus, Gorgias, Republic, Theaetetus.
64 Intro| may be formed of the Meno, Phaedrus, Phaedo, in which the immortality
65 Intro| which reappears again in the Phaedrus as well as in the Republic
66 Intro| doctrine of retribution. In the Phaedrus the immortality of the soul
Phaedrus
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67 Intro| INTRODUCTION~The Phaedrus is closely connected with
68 Intro| figure of speech. But in the Phaedrus and Symposium love and philosophy
69 Intro| forward, and which in the Phaedrus, as well as in the Phaedo,
70 Intro| freedom of conversation.~Phaedrus has been spending the morning
71 Intro| As they are on their way, Phaedrus asks the opinion of Socrates
72 Intro| convenient resting-place, Phaedrus pulls out the speech and
73 Intro| which are equally unmeaning. Phaedrus is captivated with the beauty
74 Intro| haste. He cannot agree with Phaedrus in the extreme value which
75 Intro| speakers must equally employ.~Phaedrus is delighted at the prospect
76 Intro| is preparing to go away.~Phaedrus begs him to remain, at any
77 Intro| did so in order to please Phaedrus. If I said what was wrong
78 Intro| not mislead his disciple Phaedrus.~Phaedrus is afraid that
79 Intro| mislead his disciple Phaedrus.~Phaedrus is afraid that he will lose
80 Intro| This is the message which Phaedrus undertakes to carry to Lysias
81 Intro| the nymphs, Socrates and Phaedrus depart.~There are two principal
82 Intro| have been raised about the Phaedrus; the first relates to the
83 Intro| raised as to whether the Phaedrus treated of love or rhetoric.
84 Intro| determined.~The subjects of the Phaedrus (exclusive of the short
85 Intro| says, ‘in order to please Phaedrus.’ The speech of Lysias which
86 Intro| Lysias which has thrown Phaedrus into an ecstacy is adduced
87 Intro| sight. At the same time the Phaedrus, although one of the most
88 Intro| there were some who, like Phaedrus, felt a delight in the harmonious
89 Intro| ourselves. To return to the Phaedrus:—~Both speeches are strongly
90 Intro| Phaedo as well as of the Phaedrus seems to show that at one
91 Intro| meanings of a work like the Phaedrus, which indicates so much
92 Intro| note on Symposium.)~In the Phaedrus, as well as in the Symposium,
93 Intro| dissecting them? Young men, like Phaedrus, are enamoured of their
94 Intro| sketch of Socrates, lest, as Phaedrus says, the argument should
95 Intro| there. The late date of the Phaedrus will have to be established
96 Intro| closely connected as the Phaedrus and Symposium, there is
97 Intro| far wrong in placing the Phaedrus in the neighbourhood of
98 Intro| poetical element in the Phaedrus, which, while falling short
99 Intro| sophistical’ interest of Phaedrus, the little touch about
100 Intro| of Plato, especially the Phaedrus, Symposium, and portions
101 Intro| purposes of Plato in the Phaedrus is to satirize Rhetoric,
102 Intro| classes at Athens; so in the Phaedrus, chiefly in the latter part,
103 Intro| interval which separated them (Phaedrus). It is the interval which
104 Text | PHAEDRUS~PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE:
105 Text | THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Phaedrus.~SCENE: Under a plane-tree,
106 Text | Ilissus.~SOCRATES: My dear Phaedrus, whence come you, and whither
107 Text | and whither are you going?~PHAEDRUS: I come from Lysias the
108 Text | suppose, was in the town?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, he was staying with
109 Text | you a feast of discourse?~PHAEDRUS: You shall hear, if you
110 Text | Pindar, ‘than any business’?~PHAEDRUS: Will you go on?~SOCRATES:
111 Text | go on with the narration?~PHAEDRUS: My tale, Socrates, is one
112 Text | I will keep you company.~PHAEDRUS: What do you mean, my good
113 Text | SOCRATES: I believe that I know Phaedrus about as well as I know
114 Text | would or no. Therefore, Phaedrus, bid him do at once what
115 Text | do whether bidden or not.~PHAEDRUS: I see that you will not
116 Text | true remark, that of yours.~PHAEDRUS: I will do as I say; but
117 Text | have Lysias himself here.~PHAEDRUS: Enough; I see that I have
118 Text | down at some quiet spot.~PHAEDRUS: I am fortunate in not having
119 Text | in which we can sit down.~PHAEDRUS: Do you see the tallest
120 Text | distance?~SOCRATES: Yes.~PHAEDRUS: There are shade and gentle
121 Text | SOCRATES: Move forward.~PHAEDRUS: I should like to know,
122 Text | Such is the tradition.~PHAEDRUS: And is this the exact spot?
123 Text | of Boreas at the place.~PHAEDRUS: I have never noticed it;
124 Text | you were conducting us?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, this is the tree.~
125 Text | sloping to the head. My dear Phaedrus, you have been an admirable
126 Text | been an admirable guide.~PHAEDRUS: What an incomprehensible
127 Text | you can read best. Begin.~PHAEDRUS: Listen. You know how matters
128 Text | And this I owe to you, Phaedrus, for I observed you while
129 Text | inspired with a phrenzy.~PHAEDRUS: Indeed, you are pleased
130 Text | that I am not in earnest?~PHAEDRUS: Now don’t talk in that
131 Text | thing in two or three ways.~PHAEDRUS: Nonsense, Socrates; what
132 Text | complaisance I assented to you.~PHAEDRUS: Who are they, and where
133 Text | stupidity who was my informant.~PHAEDRUS: That is grand:—but never
134 Text | may be some originality.~PHAEDRUS: I admit that there is reason
135 Text | finger upon his love! And so, Phaedrus, you really imagine that
136 Text | the ingenuity of Lysias?~PHAEDRUS: There I have you as you
137 Text | SOCRATES: But, my sweet Phaedrus, how ridiculous it would
138 Text | and I am an untaught man.~PHAEDRUS: You see how matters stand;
139 Text | SOCRATES: Then don’t say it.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, but I will; and my
140 Text | discourse has no more to say.~PHAEDRUS: Then why are you still
141 Text | allow myself to be starved.~PHAEDRUS: Proceed.~SOCRATES: Shall
142 Text | tell you what I will do?~PHAEDRUS: What?~SOCRATES: I will
143 Text | and not know what to say.~PHAEDRUS: Only go on and you may
144 Text | erromenos eros).’~And now, dear Phaedrus, I shall pause for an instant
145 Text | appear to myself, inspired?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, Socrates, you seem
146 Text | getting into dithyrambics.~PHAEDRUS: Nothing can be truer.~SOCRATES:
147 Text | better make an end; enough.~PHAEDRUS: I thought that you were
148 Text | inflicted upon me by you.~PHAEDRUS: Not yet, Socrates; not
149 Text | Your love of discourse, Phaedrus, is superhuman, simply marvellous,
150 Text | been the cause of another.~PHAEDRUS: That is good news. But
151 Text | Now I recognize my error.~PHAEDRUS: What error?~SOCRATES: That
152 Text | made me utter one as bad.~PHAEDRUS: How so?~SOCRATES: It was
153 Text | anything be more dreadful?~PHAEDRUS: Nothing, if the speech
154 Text | of Aphrodite, and a god?~PHAEDRUS: So men say.~SOCRATES: But
155 Text | forehead bold and bare.~PHAEDRUS: Nothing could be more agreeable
156 Text | SOCRATES: Only think, my good Phaedrus, what an utter want of delicacy
157 Text | justice of our censure?~PHAEDRUS: I dare say not, Socrates.~
158 Text | rather than the non-lover.~PHAEDRUS: Be assured that he shall.
159 Text | therefore I believe you.~PHAEDRUS: Speak, and fear not.~SOCRATES:
160 Text | knows what he is doing?~PHAEDRUS: He is close at hand, and
161 Text | discourse was the word of Phaedrus, the son of Vain Man, who
162 Text | compelled to use, because Phaedrus would have them. And now
163 Text | eyes of the fair. And if Phaedrus or I myself said anything
164 Text | Polemarchus; and then his lover Phaedrus will no longer halt between
165 Text | philosophical discourses.~PHAEDRUS: I join in the prayer, Socrates,
166 Text | assailant was in earnest?~PHAEDRUS: I thought, Socrates, that
167 Text | seem to be unconscious, Phaedrus, that the ‘sweet elbow’ (
168 Text | out of gratitude to them.~PHAEDRUS: What do you mean? I do
169 Text | names of his approvers?~PHAEDRUS: How so?~SOCRATES: Why,
170 Text | regular piece of authorship?~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if
171 Text | his party are in mourning.~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: So
172 Text | the practice of writing.~PHAEDRUS: No doubt.~SOCRATES: And
173 Text | yet alive, to be a god?~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then
174 Text | Lysias with being an author?~PHAEDRUS: Not upon your view; for
175 Text | the mere fact of writing.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
176 Text | writes not well, but badly.~PHAEDRUS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: And
177 Text | writer, to teach us this?~PHAEDRUS: Need we? For what should
178 Text | may impart them to men.~PHAEDRUS: What gifts do you mean?
179 Text | not to sleep at mid-day.~PHAEDRUS: Let us talk.~SOCRATES:
180 Text | speech as we were proposing?~PHAEDRUS: Very good.~SOCRATES: In
181 Text | which he is going to speak?~PHAEDRUS: And yet, Socrates, I have
182 Text | hastily to be dismissed.~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Let
183 Text | which has the longest ears.~PHAEDRUS: That would be ridiculous.~
184 Text | carry baggage or anything.’~PHAEDRUS: How ridiculous!~SOCRATES:
185 Text | better than a cunning enemy?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
186 Text | the sowing of that seed?~PHAEDRUS: The reverse of good.~SOCRATES:
187 Text | you the art of persuasion.~PHAEDRUS: There is reason in the
188 Text | divorced from the truth.~PHAEDRUS: And what are these arguments,
189 Text | fair children, and convince Phaedrus, who is the father of similar
190 Text | knowledge of philosophy. And let Phaedrus answer you.~PHAEDRUS: Put
191 Text | let Phaedrus answer you.~PHAEDRUS: Put the question.~SOCRATES:
192 Text | is what you have heard?~PHAEDRUS: Nay, not exactly that;
193 Text | the rhetoric of Palamedes?~PHAEDRUS: No more than of Nestor
194 Text | are they not contending?~PHAEDRUS: Exactly so.~SOCRATES: About
195 Text | is the matter in dispute?~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And a professor
196 Text | inclined, to be unjust?~PHAEDRUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: And
197 Text | time the reverse of good?~PHAEDRUS: That is true.~SOCRATES:
198 Text | at rest and in motion?~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: The
199 Text | which are used by others?~PHAEDRUS: How do you mean?~SOCRATES:
200 Text | difference is large or small?~PHAEDRUS: When the difference is
201 Text | when you go all at once?~PHAEDRUS: Of course.~SOCRATES: He,
202 Text | and differences of things?~PHAEDRUS: He must.~SOCRATES: And
203 Text | hypothesis he is ignorant?~PHAEDRUS: He cannot.~SOCRATES: And
204 Text | in through resemblances?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, that is the way.~SOCRATES:
205 Text | resemblances, or how to avoid it?~PHAEDRUS: He will not.~SOCRATES:
206 Text | and is not an art at all?~PHAEDRUS: That may be expected.~SOCRATES:
207 Text | hand, and in my own speech?~PHAEDRUS: Nothing could be better;
208 Text | rhetorical art of my own.~PHAEDRUS: Granted; if you will only
209 Text | words of Lysias’ speech.~PHAEDRUS: ‘You know how matters stand
210 Text | rhetorical error of those words?~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Every one
211 Text | other things we differ.~PHAEDRUS: I think that I understand
212 Text | present in the minds of all?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: But
213 Text | another and with ourselves?~PHAEDRUS: Precisely.~SOCRATES: Then
214 Text | agree, but not in others?~PHAEDRUS: That is true.~SOCRATES:
215 Text | rhetoric the greater power?~PHAEDRUS: Clearly, in the uncertain
216 Text | in which they do not err?~PHAEDRUS: He who made such a distinction
217 Text | they are to be referred.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Now
218 Text | to the undisputed class?~PHAEDRUS: To the debatable, clearly;
219 Text | I cannot well remember.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, indeed; that you did,
220 Text | his beginning over again:~PHAEDRUS: If you please; but you
221 Text | may have his exact words.~PHAEDRUS: ‘You know how matters stand
222 Text | ended. Am I not right, sweet Phaedrus?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, indeed,
223 Text | not right, sweet Phaedrus?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, indeed, Socrates;
224 Text | parts of the composition?~PHAEDRUS: You have too good an opinion
225 Text | another and to the whole?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Can
226 Text | grave of Midas the Phrygian.~PHAEDRUS: What is there remarkable
227 Text | perceive, makes no difference.~PHAEDRUS: You are making fun of that
228 Text | to students of rhetoric.~PHAEDRUS: In what way?~SOCRATES:
229 Text | non-lover ought to be accepted.~PHAEDRUS: And right manfully.~SOCRATES:
230 Text | said, ‘love is a madness.’~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And of madness
231 Text | of custom and convention.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: The divine
232 Text | your lord and also mine, Phaedrus, and the guardian of fair
233 Text | measured and solemn strain.~PHAEDRUS: I know that I had great
234 Text | made from blame to praise.~PHAEDRUS: What do you mean?~SOCRATES:
235 Text | if art could give us one.~PHAEDRUS: What are they?~SOCRATES:
236 Text | make his meaning clear.~PHAEDRUS: What is the other principle,
237 Text | of the greatest benefits.~PHAEDRUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: I
238 Text | to bring gifts to them.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, they are royal men;
239 Text | me. But how much is left?~PHAEDRUS: There is a great deal surely
240 Text | the niceties of the art?~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then follows
241 Text | and further confirmation.~PHAEDRUS: You mean the excellent
242 Text | of a convenient length.~PHAEDRUS: Well done, Prodicus!~SOCRATES:
243 Text | probably agrees with him.~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And there
244 Text | they were to give a polish.~PHAEDRUS: Had not Protagoras something
245 Text | agree to use the same word.~PHAEDRUS: You mean that there should
246 Text | have you anything to add?~PHAEDRUS: Not much; nothing very
247 Text | art of rhetoric, and when?~PHAEDRUS: A very great power in public
248 Text | many holes in their web.~PHAEDRUS: Give an example.~SOCRATES:
249 Text | suppose that they would say?~PHAEDRUS: They would be sure to ask
250 Text | these things for himself’?~PHAEDRUS: They would say in reply
251 Text | teaching the art of tragedy—?~PHAEDRUS: They too would surely laugh
252 Text | and not harmony itself.’~PHAEDRUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And
253 Text | the would-be physician?~PHAEDRUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: And
254 Text | Have a little patience, Phaedrus and Socrates, they would
255 Text | may make for themselves.’~PHAEDRUS: I quite admit, Socrates,
256 Text | Lysias or Thrasymachus.~PHAEDRUS: In what direction then?~
257 Text | accomplished of rhetoricians.~PHAEDRUS: What of that?~SOCRATES:
258 Text | to the art of speaking.~PHAEDRUS: Explain.~SOCRATES: Rhetoric
259 Text | Rhetoric is like medicine.~PHAEDRUS: How so?~SOCRATES: Why,
260 Text | application of words and training.~PHAEDRUS: There, Socrates, I suspect
261 Text | the nature of the whole?~PHAEDRUS: Hippocrates the Asclepiad
262 Text | his conception of nature.~PHAEDRUS: I agree.~SOCRATES: Then
263 Text | them to be what they are?~PHAEDRUS: You may very likely be
264 Text | conceive, to be the soul.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: His
265 Text | seeks to produce conviction.~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then clearly,
266 Text | the nature of the soul.~PHAEDRUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: He will
267 Text | she acts or is acted upon.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: Thirdly,
268 Text | argument, and another not.~PHAEDRUS: You have hit upon a very
269 Text | they write by rules of art?~PHAEDRUS: What is our method?~SOCRATES:
270 Text | according to rules of art.~PHAEDRUS: Let me hear.~SOCRATES:
271 Text | teacher will say, is this, Phaedrus and Socrates, your account
272 Text | am I to look for another?~PHAEDRUS: He must take this, Socrates,
273 Text | might be of service to us.~PHAEDRUS: If trying would avail,
274 Text | somebody who knows told me.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: May
275 Text | says, ‘claim a hearing’?~PHAEDRUS: Do you say what can be
276 Text | furnishes the whole art.~PHAEDRUS: That is what the professors
277 Text | that which the many think?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly, he does.~SOCRATES:
278 Text | system. Am I not right, Phaedrus?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES:
279 Text | Am I not right, Phaedrus?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Bless
280 Text | say a word to him or not?~PHAEDRUS: What shall we say to him?~
281 Text | has a fair beginning here.~PHAEDRUS: I think, Socrates, that
282 Text | honourable object is honourable.~PHAEDRUS: True.~SOCRATES: Enough
283 Text | and false art of speaking.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: But
284 Text | impropriety of writing.~PHAEDRUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Do you know
285 Text | will be acceptable to God?~PHAEDRUS: No, indeed. Do you?~SOCRATES:
286 Text | about the opinions of men?~PHAEDRUS: Your question needs no
287 Text | wisdom without the reality.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, Socrates, you can
288 Text | country the tale comes.~PHAEDRUS: I acknowledge the justice
289 Text | recollection of the same matters?~PHAEDRUS: That is most true.~SOCRATES:
290 Text | I cannot help feeling, Phaedrus, that writing is unfortunately
291 Text | protect or defend themselves.~PHAEDRUS: That again is most true.~
292 Text | but lawfully begotten?~PHAEDRUS: Whom do you mean, and what
293 Text | speak and when to be silent.~PHAEDRUS: You mean the living word
294 Text | sown arrive at perfection?~PHAEDRUS: Yes, Socrates, that will
295 Text | husbandman, about his own seeds?~PHAEDRUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
296 Text | truth adequately to others?~PHAEDRUS: No, that is not likely.~
297 Text | which his days are spent.~PHAEDRUS: A pastime, Socrates, as
298 Text | the like.~SOCRATES: True, Phaedrus. But nobler far is the serious
299 Text | extent of human happiness.~PHAEDRUS: Far nobler, certainly.~
300 Text | certainly.~SOCRATES: And now, Phaedrus, having agreed upon the
301 Text | decide about the conclusion.~PHAEDRUS: About what conclusion?~
302 Text | of art and its opposite.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, I think with you;
303 Text | whole preceding argument.~PHAEDRUS: Yes, that was our view,
304 Text | previous argument show—?~PHAEDRUS: Show what?~SOCRATES: That
305 Text | applause of the whole world.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: But
306 Text | sort of man; and you and I, Phaedrus, would pray that we may
307 Text | we may become like him.~PHAEDRUS: That is most assuredly
308 Text | serious pursuit of their life.~PHAEDRUS: What name would you assign
309 Text | modest and befitting title.~PHAEDRUS: Very suitable.~SOCRATES:
310 Text | speech-maker or law-maker.~PHAEDRUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Now
311 Text | this to your companion.~PHAEDRUS: But there is also a friend
312 Text | forgotten.~SOCRATES: Who is he?~PHAEDRUS: Isocrates the fair:—What
313 Text | Isocrates is still young, Phaedrus; but I am willing to hazard
314 Text | prophecy concerning him.~PHAEDRUS: What would you prophesy?~
315 Text | to Lysias, who is yours.~PHAEDRUS: I will; and now as the
316 Text | all to the local deities?~PHAEDRUS: By all means.~SOCRATES:
317 Text | think, is enough for me.~PHAEDRUS: Ask the same for me, for
Philebus
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318 Intro| on the Protagoras or the Phaedrus, and even on the Republic.
319 Intro| though here, as in the Phaedrus, he twice attributes the
320 Intro| Meno, the Phaedo, and the Phaedrus, has given way to a psychological
321 Intro| the same subject in the Phaedrus; here he dwells on the importance
322 Intro| the species, while in the Phaedrus he conveys the same truth
323 Intro| dialogues. For whereas in the Phaedrus, and also in the Symposium,
324 Intro| finding species; as in the Phaedrus (see above) he would have ‘
325 Intro| parallel passages of the Phaedrus and of the Sophist, is found
326 Intro| time of the Good. So in the Phaedrus he seems to pass unconsciously
327 Intro| in the Symposium or the Phaedrus, or like the ideal good
328 Intro| several other dialogues (Phaedrus, Republic, etc.) it is presented
Protagoras
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329 Intro| applied to mythology in the Phaedrus, and with his other parodies,
330 Intro| two first speeches in the Phaedrus and with the Menexenus.
331 Text | the son of Acumenus, and Phaedrus the Myrrhinusian, and Andron
The Sophist
Part
332 Intro| like.~The Sophist, like the Phaedrus, has a double character,
333 Intro| species; thirdly, in the Phaedrus, when he says that the dialectician
The Statesman
Part
334 Intro| INTRODUCTION AND ANALYSIS~In the Phaedrus, the Republic, the Philebus,
335 Intro| love and rhetoric of the Phaedrus, by ‘little invisible pegs,’
336 Intro| applied to the myth of the Phaedrus, the Republic, the Phaedo,
337 Intro| certain lessons; or, as in the Phaedrus, he secretly laughs at such
338 Intro| In such a tale, as in the Phaedrus, various aspects of the
339 Intro| the Republic. And in the Phaedrus this aspect of dialectic
340 Intro| principle of division in the Phaedrus, receives a particular application
341 Intro| between the Republic or Phaedrus and the two suspected dialogues,
The Symposium
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342 Intro| companion Dialogue of the Phaedrus is marked by a sort of Gothic
343 Intro| agree to this proposal, and Phaedrus, who is the ‘father’ of
344 Intro| up the tale:—He says that Phaedrus should have distinguished
345 Intro| is speedily repressed by Phaedrus, who reminds the disputants
346 Intro| heir of immortality.~Such, Phaedrus, is the tale which I heard
347 Intro| the company, Eryximachus, Phaedrus, and others, withdraw; and
348 Intro| self-controlled nature. In the Phaedrus and Symposium love is not
349 Intro| work.~The characters—of Phaedrus, who has been the cause
350 Intro| exception of Simmias the Theban (Phaedrus); of Aristophanes, who disguises
351 Intro| follow each other in pairs: Phaedrus and Pausanias being the
352 Intro| together. The speech of Phaedrus is also described as the
353 Intro| first. With the leave of Phaedrus he asks a few questions,
354 Intro| drunk.~The discourse of Phaedrus is half-mythical, half-ethical;
355 Intro| sophistical ring in the speech of Phaedrus, which recalls the first
356 Intro| the Dialogue called the Phaedrus. This is still more marked
357 Intro| as in the Gorgias and Phaedrus; but it is not necessary
358 Intro| speech of Socrates in the Phaedrus in which he describes himself
359 Intro| the opinions of men. From Phaedrus he takes the thought that
360 Intro| Greek) Republic (Greek) also Phaedrus). Under one aspect ‘the
361 Intro| Symposium is connected with the Phaedrus both in style and subject;
362 Intro| But while the Phaedo and Phaedrus look backwards and forwards
363 Intro| too is eternal (compare Phaedrus). But Plato does not distinguish
364 Intro| minute references to the Phaedrus and Symposium, as well as
365 Intro| relative order in time of the Phaedrus, Symposium, Phaedo. The
366 Text | once narrated to Glaucon. Phaedrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus,
367 Text | like myself, Aristodemus, Phaedrus, and others who never can
368 Text | as a physician, rejoined Phaedrus the Myrrhinusian, and the
369 Text | about to speak, but that of Phaedrus. For often he says to me
370 Text | neglected.’ Now in this Phaedrus seems to me to be quite
371 Text | the best which he can; and Phaedrus, because he is sitting first
372 Text | good speeches first. Let Phaedrus begin the praise of Love,
373 Text | the chief speakers said.~Phaedrus began by affirming that
374 Text | this, was the speech of Phaedrus; and some other speeches
375 Text | repeated was that of Pausanias. Phaedrus, he said, the argument has
376 Text | common goddess. To you, Phaedrus, I offer this my contribution
377 Text | in their presence?~Here Phaedrus interrupted them, saying:
378 Text | you may talk.~Very good, Phaedrus, said Agathon; I see no
379 Text | Many things were said by Phaedrus about Love in which I agree
380 Text | heaven and earth. Therefore, Phaedrus, I say of Love that he is
381 Text | men. Such is the speech, Phaedrus, half-playful, yet having
382 Text | rivalry with you. Say then, Phaedrus, whether you would like
383 Text | you?~Aristodemus said that Phaedrus and the company bid him
384 Text | grant the permission, said Phaedrus: put your questions. Socrates
385 Text | an ignoble life?’~Such, Phaedrus—and I speak not only to
386 Text | which I have spoken, you, Phaedrus, may call an encomium of
387 Text | you whom I see around me, Phaedrus and Agathon and Eryximachus
388 Text | Aristodemus said that Eryximachus, Phaedrus, and others went away—he
Theaetetus
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389 Intro| with the Apology and the Phaedrus, and perhaps even with the
Timaeus
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390 Intro| still held by him, as in the Phaedrus and Republic; and the soul
391 Intro| which he exhibits in the Phaedrus or Symposium. Nothing can
392 Intro| a similar passage in the Phaedrus.~To the same cause we may
393 Intro| Timaeus by the Parmenides or Phaedrus or Philebus.~The soul of
394 Intro| the Republic and in the Phaedrus. (Compare his denial of
395 Intro| heavenly bodies; in the Phaedrus, Hestia, who remains immovable
396 Intro| figurative in the Phaedo, Phaedrus and Republic, that we must
397 Intro| charioteer and steeds of the Phaedrus, and to the (Greek) of the
398 Intro| help of the Republic or Phaedrus: we may identify the same
399 Intro| Timaeus, as well as of the Phaedrus and Philebus. When the writer
400 Intro| we have a parallel to the Phaedrus. His distinction between
401 Intro| Egyptian or any other tales’ (Phaedrus). Are not the words, ‘The
402 Intro| several portions of the Phaedrus and Republic, was translated