Charmides
    Part
  1 Text |          my young relation, if the pain in his head compels him
  2 Text |       which I learned with so much pain, and to so little profit,


Cratylus
    Part
  3 Text |            edone (pleasure), lupe (pain), epithumia (desire), and


Crito
    Part
  4 Text |           I wished to minimize the pain. I have always thought you


Gorgias
    Part
  5 Intro|   simultaneousness of pleasure and pain, and by the possibility
  6 Intro|       things must exceed either in pain or in hurt. But the doing
  7 Intro|           the suffering of evil in pain, and therefore must exceed
  8 Intro|       impossible. But pleasure and pain are simultaneous, and the
  9 Intro|          is good, and he who feels pain is bad, and both feel pleasure
 10 Intro|         and both feel pleasure and pain in nearly the same degree,
 11 Intro|        death or wounds are without pain, or that their physical
 12 Intro|         may mean also the greatest pain of the individual which
 13 Intro|           avoid vice as they avoid pain or death. But nature, with
 14 Intro|      ethics, in which pleasure and pain are held to be indifferent,
 15 Text |           the opposite standard of pain and evil?~POLUS: Certainly.~
 16 Text |        disgrace, exceeds either in pain or evil—must it not be so?~
 17 Text |         painful and must exceed in pain or in evil or both: does
 18 Text |        suffering in the consequent pain: Do the injurers suffer
 19 Text |         Then they do not exceed in pain?~POLUS: No.~SOCRATES: But
 20 Text |            SOCRATES: But if not in pain, then not in both?~POLUS:
 21 Text |           excess or so as to cause pain, the thing burned will be
 22 Text |         deep or such as will cause pain, the cut will be of the
 23 Text |      painful and causing excessive pain, or most hurtful, or both?~
 24 Text |          advantage of enduring the pain—that you get well?~POLUS:
 25 Text |         child, he is afraid of the pain of being burned or cut:—
 26 Text |            iron, not regarding the pain, in the hope of attaining
 27 Text |       moment, he is in an agony of pain. Such are their respective
 28 Text |         the word ‘thirsty’ implies pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 29 Text |          thirsty?~SOCRATES: And in pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 30 Text |       inference:—that pleasure and pain are simultaneous, when you
 31 Text |         you admitted, that when in pain a man might also have pleasure?~
 32 Text |           same as good fortune, or pain the same as evil fortune,
 33 Text |      SOCRATES: Then he ceases from pain and pleasure at the same
 34 Text |          cessation of pleasure and pain at the same moment; but
 35 Text |            be the same as good, or pain as evil? And I would have
 36 Text |      having more pleasure and more pain.)~CALLICLES: I really do
 37 Text |     SOCRATES: And those who are in pain have evil or sorrow present
 38 Text |         good, and those who are in pain evil?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 39 Text |         degrees of pleasure and of pain?~CALLICLES: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 40 Text |            and the coward, joy and pain in nearly equal degrees?
 41 Text |         SOCRATES: And he who is in pain is evil?~CALLICLES: Certainly.~
 42 Text |         and evil both have joy and pain, but, perhaps, the evil
 43 Text |       world so also in another, by pain and suffering; for there


Ion
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 44 Text |      breast by the neck, and he in pain let him fall from him to


Laches
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 45 Text |         who are courageous against pain or fear, but mighty to contend
 46 Text |       applied both to pleasure and pain, and in all the cases to


Laws
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 47 1    |          the frequent endurance of pain, exhibited among us Spartans
 48 1    |         overcome by pleasure or by pain?~Cleinias. I should say
 49 1    |           other who is overcome by pain.~Athenian. But surely the
 50 1    |     pleasure similar to that about pain to be found in your laws?
 51 1    |         brave against pleasure and pain, conquering what they ought
 52 1    |        which were directed against pain; but I do not know that
 53 1    |           entirely on pleasure and pain, both in states and in individuals:
 54 1    |            pleasure, and the other pain.~Cleinias. Exactly.~Athenian.
 55 1    |         when the expectation is of pain; and of hope, when of pleasure;
 56 1    |           have no accompaniment of pain.~Cleinias. True; but I hardly
 57 1    |           which is the opposite of pain and other fears, and the
 58 2    |             Athenian. Pleasure and pain I maintain to be the first
 59 2    |      pleasure, and friendship, and pain, and hatred, are rightly
 60 2    |            respect of pleasure and pain, which leads you always
 61 2    |         discipline of pleasure and pain which, when rightly ordered,
 62 2    |          his sense of pleasure and pain, and welcomes what is good,
 63 2    |          that which gives him more pain than pleasure. But as distant
 64 3    |           very great infliction of pain.~Megillus. Certainly.~Athenian.
 65 3    |           which feels pleasure and pain in the individual is like
 66 3    |            he was to execute under pain of death. Now Datis and
 67 5    |            of pleasure and less of pain during the whole of life.
 68 5    |          neither desire nor choose pain; and the neutral state we
 69 5    |           not for pleasure but for pain; and we also wish for less
 70 5    |          and we also wish for less pain and greater pleasure, but
 71 5    |          less pleasure and greater pain we do not wish for; and
 72 5    |           elements of pleasure and pain, and in which the pleasures
 73 5    |            balance of pleasure and pain in life, this is to be regarded
 74 5    |           the pleasure exceeds the pain, and in sickness the pain
 75 5    |          pain, and in sickness the pain exceeds the pleasure. Now
 76 5    |      exceed, but the life in which pain is exceeded by pleasure
 77 5    |      elements both of pleasure and pain fewer and smaller and less
 78 5    |          pleasure and the other in pain, the courageous surpassing
 79 6    |          choose out of them, under pain, if he do not, of suffering
 80 7    |            fear, and in general of pain as was possible, might we
 81 7    |        avoid the life of unmingled pain or pleasure, and pursue
 82 7    |   obediently; neither pleasure nor pain should hinder him, and he
 83 9    |           action, with pleasure or pain, by giving or taking away
 84 9    |         and fear, and pleasure and pain, and jealousies and desires,
 85 9    |          and selfishness, avoiding pain and pursuing Pleasure without
 86 11   |            the other drives him by pain into utter shamelessness.
 87 11   |            overcome by pleasure or pain, in cowardly fear, or lust,
 88 11   |          or who suffers any bodily pain, but he who is temperate,


Lysis
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 89 Intro|           separation. He will feel pain at the loss of a friend;


Phaedo
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 90 Intro|      remark that ‘pleasure follows pain.’ (Observe that Plato is
 91 Intro|          of rhetoric? What is that pain which does not become deadened
 92 Intro|   accidents of their bodily state. Pain soon overpowers the desire
 93 Intro|           of rest and freedom from pain; they have gone home, as
 94 Text |        also a strange admixture of pain; for I reflected that he
 95 Text |           how curiously related to pain, which might be thought
 96 Text |     experience now, when after the pain in my leg which was caused
 97 Text |      neither sounds nor sights nor pain nor any pleasure,—when she
 98 Text |            one fear or pleasure or pain for another fear or pleasure
 99 Text |        another fear or pleasure or pain, and of the greater for
100 Text |         the feeling of pleasure or pain is most intense, every soul
101 Text |          because each pleasure and pain is a sort of nail which
102 Text |        when cold, or hungry, or in pain, not even the nightingale,


Phaedrus
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103 Intro|             who can alone cure his pain. An apocryphal sacred writer
104 Intro|         his legs and haunches with pain upon the ground. When this
105 Text |         disappointed which give no pain to others; he compels the
106 Text |           then she ceases from her pain with joy. But when she is
107 Text |       assuage the greatness of his pain. And this state, my dear
108 Text |  perspiration; the other, when the pain is over which the bridle
109 Text |       lover, both cease from their pain, but when he is away then
110 Text |        almost always have previous pain as a condition of them,


Philebus
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111 Intro|         follows, that pleasure and pain naturally have their seat
112 Intro|      pleasures, or of pleasure and pain, are a further source of
113 Intro|          those in which there is a pain of the body and pleasure
114 Intro|          in which the pleasure and pain are both mental. Of unmixed
115 Intro|            such coexistence of the pain of thirst with the pleasures
116 Intro|         cases, are unattended with pain. Few philosophers will deny
117 Intro|            case of a man suffering pain from hunger or thirst, partly
118 Intro|      pleasure to be the absence of pain. They are also described
119 Intro|  inseparable from some pleasure or pain, which accompanies the acquisition
120 Intro|   simultaneousness of pleasure and pain is common to both of them (
121 Intro|      retorts Socrates, and also to pain the character of absolute
122 Intro|           and harmony were placed. Pain is the violation, and pleasure
123 Intro|         pleasure, when a man is in pain, is the memory of the opposite
124 Intro|      balanced between pleasure and pain; in his body there is want
125 Intro|           want which is a cause of pain, but in his mind a sure
126 Intro|         pains and not a balance of pain and pleasure.) Another question
127 Intro|         there is another illusion: pain has often been said by us
128 Intro|       devoid either of pleasure or pain. We assume, then, that there
129 Intro|    pleasure is only the absence of pain. They are noble fellows,
130 Intro|          them by contrast with the pain or sickness of body which
131 Intro|           they are a pleasure or a pain. (1) Some of these arise
132 Intro|            contrast of an internal pain and an external pleasure
133 Intro|           sometimes the feeling of pain predominates, as in itching
134 Intro|           honey,’ and also full of pain? Is there not a mixture
135 Intro|            we envy him, which is a pain? These mixed feelings are
136 Intro| performance with mixed feelings of pain as well as of pleasure;
137 Intro|         which rejoices not without pain at the misfortunes of others,
138 Intro|           which are unalloyed with pain: (2) The pleasures derived
139 Intro|          attended by an accidental pain of forgetting; this, however,
140 Intro|           best of men, if he be in pain, is bad?~And now, from the
141 Intro|          sophist that pleasure and pain are the final standards
142 Text |            no sense of pleasure or pain, and wholly unaffected by
143 Text |      better leave her now, and not pain her by applying the crucial
144 Text |        said that we had better not pain pleasure, which is an impossibility?~
145 Text |        SOCRATES: Have pleasure and pain a limit, or do they belong
146 Text |        degree.~SOCRATES: Nor would pain, Philebus, be perfectly
147 Text |          rightly tested apart from pain.~PROTARCHUS: If this is
148 Text |         the origin of pleasure and pain.~PROTARCHUS: What do you
149 Text |         nature and a generation of pain.~PROTARCHUS: That is very
150 Text |             is a dissolution and a pain.~PROTARCHUS: True.~SOCRATES:
151 Text |       again is a destruction and a pain, but the effect of moisture
152 Text |           moisture in an animal is pain, and the natural process
153 Text |         class of living beings, is pain, and that the process of
154 Text |  refreshing, and an expectation of pain, fearful and anxious.~PROTARCHUS:
155 Text |     pleasures being unalloyed with pain and the pains with pleasure,
156 Text |           and whether pleasure and pain, like heat and cold, and
157 Text |          Well, then, assuming that pain ensues on the dissolution,
158 Text |         any feeling of pleasure or pain, great or small?~PROTARCHUS:
159 Text |            that of pleasure and of pain?~PROTARCHUS: Very true.~
160 Text |          beings, as well as of the pain which is felt in one of
161 Text |           the actual experience of pain, and in his soul longing
162 Text |            not at the same time in pain?~PROTARCHUS: Certainly.~
163 Text |        same time both pleasure and pain?~PROTARCHUS: I suppose so.~
164 Text |           the double experience of pain. You observed this and inferred
165 Text |         rejoice, or seemed to feel pain and yet did not feel pain,
166 Text |          pain and yet did not feel pain, sleeping or waking, mad
167 Text |      objects, may not pleasure and pain be simple and devoid of
168 Text |           seeing that pleasure and pain as well as opinion have
169 Text |            if we see a pleasure or pain which errs in respect of
170 Text |         SOCRATES: And pleasure and pain, as I was just now saying,
171 Text |          attribute to pleasure and pain a similar real but illusory
172 Text |          source of any pleasure or pain which was experienced.~PROTARCHUS:
173 Text |        SOCRATES: That pleasure and pain both admit of more and less,
174 Text |         measuring pleasure against pain, and pain against pain,
175 Text |         pleasure against pain, and pain against pain, and pleasure
176 Text |     against pain, and pain against pain, and pleasure against pleasure?~
177 Text |           or defect of pleasure or pain is real or true.~PROTARCHUS:
178 Text |            be neither pleasure nor pain.~SOCRATES: Very good; but
179 Text |    affirmed to be devoid either of pain or of joy.~PROTARCHUS: Very
180 Text |         But if so, the negation of pain will not be the same with
181 Text |        that always to live without pain is the pleasantest of all
182 Text |          must mean the negative of pain.~SOCRATES: Let us take any
183 Text |            when they are free from pain?~PROTARCHUS: They say so.~
184 Text |       pleasure and the negation of pain are of distinct natures,
185 Text |           the one being a state of pain, which is an evil, and the
186 Text |           the other a cessation of pain, which is of itself a good,
187 Text |            them only avoidances of pain.~PROTARCHUS: And would you,
188 Text |        produced in us?—Pleasure or pain?~PROTARCHUS: A villainous
189 Text |   pleasures which are mingled with pain?~PROTARCHUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES:
190 Text |    SOCRATES: Of cases in which the pain exceeds the pleasure, an
191 Text |           most intense pleasure or pain in the inner parts, which
192 Text |     contrasts and mingles with the pain or pleasure, as the case
193 Text |      juxtaposition of pleasure and pain.~PROTARCHUS: Quite so.~SOCRATES:
194 Text |         the slight undercurrent of pain makes him tingle, and causes
195 Text |             whether of pleasure or pain, and the two unite and form
196 Text |           has pleasure in hope and pain in vacuity. But now I must
197 Text |         innumerable), pleasure and pain coalesce in one.~PROTARCHUS:
198 Text |     experiences a mixed feeling of pain and pleasure?~PROTARCHUS:
199 Text |          would you not call that a pain of the soul?~PROTARCHUS:
200 Text |            mixture of pleasure and pain.~PROTARCHUS: How can we
201 Text |            and also an unrighteous pain?~PROTARCHUS: Most true.~
202 Text |           SOCRATES: And do we feel pain or pleasure in laughing
203 Text |            with envy, mingles with pain, for envy has been acknowledged
204 Text |    acknowledged by us to be mental pain, and laughter is pleasant;
205 Text |       combinations of pleasure and pain in lamentations, and in
206 Text |       pleasures are a cessation of pain, I do not agree, but, as
207 Text |        pleasant and unalloyed with pain.~PROTARCHUS: Once more,
208 Text |          no necessary admixture of pain; and all pleasures, however
209 Text |         hunger of knowledge and no pain caused by such hunger precede
210 Text |     knowledge is not attended with pain.~SOCRATES: These pleasures
211 Text |             then, are unmixed with pain; and they are not the pleasures
212 Text |          if pure or unalloyed with pain, is always pleasanter and
213 Text |           was neither pleasure nor pain, but only the purest possible
214 Text |            he who has a feeling of pain and not of pleasure is bad
215 Text |          time when he is suffering pain, even though he be the best


Protagoras
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216 Intro|          is not the only good, and pain the only evil? Protagoras
217 Intro|          evils because they end in pain, and pains are goods because
218 Intro|            greater, or the greater pain to the less, except from
219 Text |            lives well who lives in pain and grief?~He does not.~
220 Text |          by anger, or pleasure, or pain, or love, or perhaps by
221 Text |     knowledge they are overcome by pain, or pleasure, or some of
222 Text |         diseases do they not cause pain? and in causing poverty
223 Text |          poverty do they not cause pain;—they would agree to that
224 Text |         except because they end in pain and rob us of other pleasures:—
225 Text |            immediate suffering and pain; or because, afterwards,
226 Text |           and get rid of and avert pain? Are you looking to any
227 Text |          standard but pleasure and pain when you call them good?’—
228 Text |      pleasure as a good, and avoid pain as an evil?’~He assented.~‘
229 Text |     assented.~‘Then you think that pain is an evil and pleasure
230 Text |      similar way of speaking about pain? You call pain a good when
231 Text |      speaking about pain? You call pain a good when it takes away
232 Text |            other than pleasure and pain to which you refer when
233 Text |         refer when you call actual pain a good, you can show what
234 Text |            explained as other than pain, or good as other than pleasure,
235 Text |          pleasure which is without pain? If you are, and if you
236 Text |            not end in pleasure and pain, hear the consequences:—
237 Text |          the names of pleasure and pain for good and evil, and say,
238 Text |           relations of pleasure to pain other than excess and defect,
239 Text |           from future pleasure and pain’—To that I should reply:
240 Text |       anything but in pleasure and pain? There can be no other measure


The Republic
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241 2    |      profit there is none, but the pain and loss on the other hand
242 3    |            good in their works, on pain, if they do anything else,
243 3    |         faculties quite as much as pain. ~Or any affinity to virtue
244 3    |          whom the violence of some pain or grief compels to change
245 4    |       citizens are forbidden under pain of death to alter the constitution;
246 4    |    intimate that in pleasure or in pain, or under the influence
247 4    |      hunger, or cold, or any other pain which the injured person
248 4    |            hunger or cold or other pain he is only the more determined
249 4    |         retains in pleasure and in pain the commands of reason about
250 5    |          we say that the man has a pain in his finger; and the same
251 5    |           which has a sensation of pain at suffering or of pleasure
252 5    |            feeling of pleasure and pain? ~Yes, far more so than
253 5    |            affected by pleasure or pain? ~That we acknowledged,
254 6    |          love that which gives him pain, and in which after much
255 6    |            Very good. ~And so with pain and toil we have reached
256 7    |          light, will he not have a pain in his eyes which will make
257 8    |       resisting either pleasure or pain. ~Very true. ~They themselves
258 9    |            sorrow and groaning and pain? ~Certainly not. ~And is
259 9    |            not pleasure opposed to pain? ~True. ~And there is a
260 9    |            is neither pleasure nor pain? ~There is. ~A state which
261 9    |           are suffering from acute pain, you must have heard them
262 9    |           than to get rid of their pain? ~I have. ~And there are
263 9    |         mere rest and cessation of pain, and not any positive enjoyment,
264 9    |          pleasure and will also be pain? ~So it would seem. ~But
265 9    |              And both pleasure and pain are motions of the soul,
266 9    |      supposing that the absence of pain is pleasure, or that the
267 9    |         the absence of pleasure is pain? ~Impossible. This, then,
268 9    |           is only the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~What
269 9    |          the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~What are they,
270 9    |          when they depart leave no pain behind them. ~Most true,
271 9    |       pleasure is the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~No. ~
272 9    |          the cessation of pain, or pain of pleasure. ~No. ~Still,
273 9    |           sort-they are reliefs of pain. ~That is true. ~And the
274 9    |           ideas about pleasure and pain and the intermediate state;
275 9    |       toward the painful they feel pain and think the pain which
276 9    |            feel pain and think the pain which they experience to
277 9    |       manner, when drawn away from pain to the neutral or intermediate
278 9    |       pleasure, err in contrasting pain with the absence of pain,
279 9    |           pain with the absence of pain, which is like contrasting
280 9    |          in regard to pleasure and pain! ~Yet a true calculation,
281 10   |         affections, of desire, and pain, and pleasure, which are
282 10   |      deemed best, but pleasure and pain will be the rulers in our


The Sophist
    Part
283 Intro|      pleasure to be the absence of pain.’ That Antisthenes wrote
284 Text |       pleasure to anger, reason to pain, and that all these elements


The Statesman
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285 Text |           infliction of some other pain,—whether he practises out


The Symposium
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286 Text |       contracts and has a sense of pain, and turns away, and shrivels
287 Text |          is the alleviation of the pain of travail. For love, Socrates,


Theaetetus
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288 Intro|            when unaccompanied with pain, and even when we are most
289 Intro|        perceptions of pleasure and pain.~There seem then to be several
290 Intro|       impulse of want or desire or pain, to attain or avoid some
291 Text |           of heat, cold, pleasure, pain, desire, fear, and many


Timaeus
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292 Intro|            mixture of pleasure and pain; thirdly, fear and anger,
293 Intro|           inequality.~Pleasure and pain are the most important of
294 Intro|     pleasure, the inciter of evil; pain, which deters from good;
295 Intro|            contracted, and causing pain and misery by twisting out
296 Intro|            the influence of bodily pain; the briny phlegm and other
297 Intro|           all things.~Pleasure and pain are attributed in the Timaeus
298 Intro|     attended either by pleasure or pain, but hunger and the appeasing
299 Text |        love, in which pleasure and pain mingle; also fear and anger,
300 Text |          the cause of pleasure and pain in the perceptions of which
301 Text |           conceive of pleasure and pain in this way. An impression
302 Text |         accompanied by pleasure or pain; such, for example, are
303 Text |           to the sight do not give pain, nor is there pleasure when
304 Text |       whole and cause pleasure and pain—pain when alienated from
305 Text |            cause pleasure and pain—pain when alienated from their
306 Text |            and so they occasion no pain, but the greatest pleasure,
307 Text |          incitement to evil; then, pain, which deters from good;
308 Text |          vessels and gates, causes pain and loathing. And the converse
309 Text |         more healthy and free from pain. But our creators, considering
310 Text |           feelings of pleasure and pain and the desires which accompany
311 Text |          pleasure rather than with pain.~Now every one can see whence
312 Text |            source of quite as much pain as the air coming in from
313 Text |          without; but the greatest pain is felt when the wind gets
314 Text |           in great joy or in great pain, in his unreasonable eagerness
315 Text |           will. And in the case of pain too in like manner the soul