Cratylus
    Part
  1 Intro|         artificer of words, and the legislator gives authority to them.
  2 Intro|              when he says that ‘the legislator made language with the dialectician
  3 Intro|             not to suppose that the legislator is performing any extraordinary
  4 Intro|       teacher receive them from the legislator? He is the skilled person
  5 Intro|      several kinds of webs. And the legislator ought to know the different
  6 Intro|           who is able to direct the legislator in his work of naming, be
  7 Intro|            dialectician directs the legislator how he is to impose names;
  8 Intro|          having the value which the legislator intended. And the same may
  9 Intro|           erate tis, or perhaps the legislator may have been thinking of
 10 Intro|        general instrument which the legislator has employed to express
 11 Intro|       artist of names, that is, the legislator, may be a good or he may
 12 Intro|             we were saying that the legislator gives names; and therefore
 13 Intro|          were his ‘law-givers’—‘the legislator with the dialectician standing
 14 Text |          name, uses the work of the legislator?~HERMOGENES: I agree.~SOCRATES:
 15 Text |        SOCRATES: And is every man a legislator, or the skilled only?~HERMOGENES:
 16 Text |           of names; and this is the legislator, who of all skilled artisans
 17 Text |          SOCRATES: And how does the legislator make names? and to what
 18 Text |             to names: ought not our legislator also to know how to put
 19 Text |             true.~SOCRATES: And the legislator, whether he be Hellene or
 20 Text |            be deemed by you a worse legislator, provided he gives the true
 21 Text |             best able to direct the legislator in his work, and will know
 22 Text |       SOCRATES: And the work of the legislator is to give names, and the
 23 Text |          having the value which the legislator intended—so well did he
 24 Text |            Yes, Hermogenes, and the legislator called him Hades, not from
 25 Text |            have been given when the legislator was thinking of the heavens,
 26 Text |           eirein and mesasthai, the legislator formed the name of the God
 27 Text |            this is expressed by the legislator in the name, which is a
 28 Text |       another ill name given by the legislator to stagnation and forced
 29 Text |      goggulon (round). Thus did the legislator, reducing all things into
 30 Text |       artist of names is called the legislator?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES:
 31 Text |         Then like other artists the legislator may be good or he may be
 32 Text |            names was the art of the legislator?~CRATYLUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES:


Laws
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 33 1    |         with a view to war, and the legislator appears to me to have looked
 34 1    |             intention of the Cretan legislator; all institutions, private
 35 1    |          the best sort of judge and legislator.~Athenian. And yet the aim
 36 1    |           also be the desire of the legislator?~Cleinias. Certainly.~Athenian.
 37 1    |             will he ever be a sound legislator who orders peace for the
 38 1    |            maintain that the divine legislator of Crete, like any other
 39 1    |           divine excellence;—at the legislator when making his laws had
 40 1    |           is the order in which the legislator must place them, and after
 41 1    |              In the next place, the legislator has to be careful how the
 42 1    |          gymnasia, invented by your legislator with a view to war?~Megillus.
 43 1    |         have hit the meaning of the legislator, and to say what is most
 44 1    |          young men present, and the legislator has given old men free licence,
 45 1    |        Greek or barbarian, whom the legislator commanded to eschew all
 46 1    |             their subjects. Now the legislator ought to have considered
 47 1    |           the discrimination of the legislator. I am not speaking of drinking,
 48 1    |          Athenian. And does not the legislator and every one who is good
 49 1    |             have been of use to the legislator as a test of courage? Might
 50 1    |           not go and say to him, “O legislator, whether you are legislating
 51 2    |      statesmanlike, how worthy of a legislator! I know that other things
 52 2    |              And similarly the true legislator will persuade, and, if he
 53 2    |             the rule, whether he be legislator or father, will be in a
 54 2    |      pleasant? Certainly not, sweet legislator. Or shall we say that the
 55 2    |             with the designs of the legislator, and is, in his opinion,
 56 2    |        especially in childhood, the legislator will try to purge away the
 57 2    |          sowing of teeth, which the legislator may take as a proof that
 58 2    |         their youth, viz., the good legislator; and that he ought to enact
 59 3    |           Now, in general, when the legislator attempts to make a new settlement
 60 3    |         first, that a statesman and legislator ought to ordain laws with
 61 3    |            And if this be true, the legislator must endeavour to implant
 62 3    |           making of laws, “you see, legislator, the principles of government,
 63 3    |             what measures ought the legislator to have then taken in order
 64 3    |          and harmonious, and that a legislator ought to legislate with
 65 3    |  continually proposing aims for the legislator which appear not to be always
 66 3    |          what, in your opinion, the legislator should aim.~Athenian. Hear
 67 3    |            this, I say, is what the legislator has to consider, and what
 68 3    |         Athenian. And ought not the legislator to determine these classes?~
 69 3    |            and property. And it any legislator or state departs from this
 70 4    |        advantage to the colonist or legislator, in another point of view
 71 4    |            the colony, who is their legislator, finds them troublesome
 72 4    |             the state, yet the true legislator must from time to time appear
 73 4    |           course.~Athenian. And the legislator would do likewise?~Cleinias.
 74 4    |             would.~Athenian. “Come, legislator,” we will say to him; “what
 75 4    |             contemporary of a great legislator, and that some happy chance
 76 4    |             I am supposing that the legislator is by nature of the true
 77 4    |     punished as an evil–doer by the legislator, who calls the laws just?”~
 78 4    |             and must be said by the legislator who is of my way of thinking,
 79 4    |            surely be the aim of the legislator in all his laws.~Cleinias.
 80 4    |             addressed to him by the legislator, when his soul is not altogether
 81 4    |        little conversation with the legislator, and say to him—”O, legislator,
 82 4    |      legislator, and say to him—”O, legislator, speak; if you know what
 83 4    |           just now saying, that the legislator ought not to allow the poets
 84 4    |          not the case in a law; the legislator must give not two rules
 85 4    |          Now you in the capacity of legislator must not barely say “a moderate
 86 4    |           not.~Athenian. And is our legislator to have no preface to his
 87 4    |            them, so we will ask the legislator to cure our disorders with
 88 4    |             conciliation, which the legislator has been uttering in the
 89 4    |             to each separately, the legislator should prefix a preamble;
 90 5    |            word and approval of the legislator, he indulges in pleasure,
 91 5    |         sorrows and pains which the legislator approves, but gives way
 92 5    |    according to the standard of the legislator, and abstain in every possible
 93 5    |        which is the business of the legislator; and he, I suspect, would
 94 5    |             reverential. A sensible legislator will rather exhort the elders
 95 5    |         highest importance; and the legislator should make enquiries, and
 96 5    |         most difficult of them, the legislator, if he be also a despot,
 97 5    |             able to effect; but the legislator, who, not being a despot,
 98 5    |         state, are sent away by the legislator in a friendly spirit as
 99 5    |          termed a colony. And every legislator should contrive to do this
100 5    |             standing among them, no legislator of any degree of sense will
101 5    |           of parts up to ten. Every legislator ought to know so much arithmetic
102 5    |            view to use. Whether the legislator is establishing a new state
103 5    |          not to be disturbed by the legislator; but he should assign to
104 5    |    constitution is ill adapted to a legislator who has not despotic power.
105 5    |           your friend, nor will the legislator; and indeed the law declares
106 5    |             be the object of a good legislator, namely, that the state
107 5    |       inconsistently, that the true legislator desires to have the city
108 5    |             happy and good, and the legislator will seek to make him so;
109 5    |         wrong. Wherefore, also, the legislator ought often to impress upon
110 5    |           both these evils. Now the legislator should determine what is
111 5    |      impaired in any case. This the legislator gives as a measure, and
112 5    |           by more and less. And the legislator shall divide the citizens
113 5    |          and other things which the legislator, as is evident from these
114 5    |        about;—all this is as if the legislator were telling his dreams,
115 5    |           say. Once more, then, the legislator shall appear and address
116 5    |           to it; you must allow the legislator to perfect his design, and
117 5    |             go round and round. The legislator is to consider all these
118 5    |            such things, if only the legislator, by other laws and institutions,
119 5    | acquisitions, whether some unworthy legislator theirs has been the cause,
120 5    |            To all these matters the legislator, if he have any sense in
121 6    |     difficulty, by any state or any legislator in the distribution of honours:
122 6    |      hereafter founded. To this the legislator should look—not to the interests
123 6    |            creatures. Wherefore the legislator ought not to allow the education
124 6    |             every way best; him the legislator shall do his utmost to appoint
125 6    |           And is not the aim of the legislator similar? First, he desires
126 6    |       imagine that there ever was a legislator so foolish as not to know
127 6    |           in our united opinion the legislator and guardian of the law
128 6    |             and minute details, the legislator must leave out something.
129 6    |        quite sufficient; and if the legislator be alive they shall communicate
130 6    |           with the others which the legislator originally gave them, and
131 6    |           when first enacted by the legislator in your parts of the world,
132 6    |     executed; and would be like the legislator “combing wool into the fire,”
133 6    |           without regulation by the legislator, which is a great mistake.
134 6    |             be far too much for the legislator. And therefore, as I said
135 7    |             to the intention of the legislator, and make the characters
136 7    |           which is established. The legislator must somehow find a way
137 7    |           to them the wishes of the legislator in order that they may regulate
138 7    |             them. And therefore the legislator must assign to these also
139 7    |             greater mistake for any legislator to make than this?~Cleinias.
140 7    |          must say what I think. The legislator ought to be whole and perfect,
141 7    |             some impropriety in the legislator determining minutely the
142 7    | sufficiently declared to you by the legislator. Attend, then, to what I
143 7    |     becoming name. These things the legislator should indicate in general
144 7    |             it is difficult for the legislator to begin with these studies;
145 7    |        claim our attention. For the legislator appears to have a duty imposed
146 7    |        obedient to the words of the legislator, both when he is giving
147 7    |             a citizen; and the true legislator ought not only to write
148 7    |             against armies. Now the legislator, in laying down laws about
149 7    |      praises and injunctions of the legislator rather than the punishments
150 8    |       ordain those things which the legislator of necessity omits; and
151 8    |       equally to men and women. The legislator may be supposed to argue
152 8    |           than boxers? And will the legislator, because he is afraid that
153 8    |            declared by the original legislator; and his successors ought
154 8    |       principle which we say that a legislator should always observe; for
155 8    |            right in saying that the legislator who wants to master any
156 8    |          this makes the task of the legislator less difficult—half as many
157 8    |            necessary that the great legislator of our state should determine
158 8    |       beneath the wisdom of an aged legislator. These lesser matters, as
159 9    |           many kinds, ought not the legislator to adapt himself to them,
160 9    |             Athenian. And ought the legislator alone among writers to withhold
161 9    |             just or unjust; but the legislator has to consider whether
162 9    |             work of law. But if the legislator sees any one who is incurable,
163 9    |             in such cases only, the legislator ought to inflict death as
164 9    |         conveniently divided by the legislator into two sorts: there is
165 9    |       strength, will be held by the legislator to be the source of great
166 9    |             his being, and whom the legislator will command to endure any
167 9    |       according to the law. Now the legislator may easily show that these
168 9    |             enactments. The poorest legislator will have no difficulty
169 9    |           And then, again, that the legislator should not permit them to
170 9    |           courts of law; others the legislator must decide for himself.~
171 9    |        Cleinias. And what ought the legislator to decide, and what ought
172 9    |           the necessity exists, the legislator should only allow them to
173 9    |            pay for the harm, for no legislator is able to control chance.
174 9    |        about to utter; for them the legislator legislates of necessity,
175 10   |        others, and above all of the legislator. In the meantime take care
176 10   |           Gods. For the duty of the legislator is and always will be to
177 10   |             at all possible, then a legislator who has anything in him
178 10   |      undermined by bad men, but the legislator himself?~Megillus. There
179 10   |    Assuredly God will not blame the legislator, who will enact the following
180 11   |      children and regardless of the legislator, taking up that which neither
181 11   |     themselves and to others. Now a legislator ought not to leave the matter
182 11   |       succour of adversity. And the legislator ought always to be devising
183 11   |          anxiety and trouble to the legislator.~Cleinias. In what way?~
184 11   |            this hour. Now I, as the legislator, regard you and your possessions,
185 11   |             him, let him pardon the legislator if he gives them in marriage,
186 11   |              say, shall forgive the legislator if he disregards this, which
187 11   |          Persons may fancy that the legislator never thought of this, but
188 11   |           the latter to forgive the legislator, in that he, having to take
189 11   |        there are cases in which the legislator will be imposing upon him
190 11   |      marriage, and asserts that the legislator, if he were alive and present,
191 11   |         this, the reply is that the legislator left fifteen of the guardians
192 11   |          censure and blame from the legislator, which, by a man of sense,
193 11   |         experience the wrath of the legislator. But he who is disobedient,
194 11   |         will be of opinion that the legislator should enact that they may,
195 11   |            children, compelling the legislator and the judge to heal the
196 11   |            a fellow–worker with the legislator, whenever the law leaves
197 11   |        shall suffer or pay; and the legislator, like a painter, shall give
198 11   |            and does not do what the legislator commands. And if in any
199 11   |           government. Wherefore the legislator may safely make a law applicable
200 11   |        litten to the request of the legislator and go away into another
201 12   |           son of a God; of this the legislator ought to be better informed
202 12   |             About these matters the legislator has to consider, and he
203 12   |             matters which the elder legislator has omitted may be supplied
204 12   |         test is the writings of the legislator, which the righteous judge
205 12   |             Now we must believe the legislator when he tells us that the
206 12   |             the Gods below. But the legislator does not intend moderation
207 12   |             anything greater to the legislator and the guardian of the


Philebus
    Part
208 Intro|     purposes by the thinker, by the legislator, by the opinion of the world.
209 Intro|           eye of the law and of the legislator.’ There is also the other


The Republic
    Book
210 4    |     conceive, I said, that the true legislator will not trouble himself
211 4    |           to be feared in which our legislator educated them; and this
212 4    |             when one man is trader, legislator, and warrior all in one,
213 5    |          You, I said, who are their legislator, having selected the men,
214 5    |             be the chief aim of the legislator in making laws and in the
215 6    |            which guided you when as legislator you were laying down the
216 7    |          said, the intention of the legislator, who did not aim at making
217 7    |    honorable, and he answers as the legislator has taught him, and then
218 10   |           that you have been a good legislator to them and have done them
219 10   |    themselves pretend that he was a legislator. ~Well, but is there any


The Statesman
    Part
220 Intro|             intelligent will of the legislator. Education is originally
221 Intro|             bond of states, and the legislator is to contrive human bonds,
222 Intro|         majority? ‘The latter.’ The legislator, too, is obliged to lay
223 Intro|           be ridiculous? And if the legislator, or another like him, comes
224 Intro|         with a human cord. The good legislator can implant by education
225 Intro|             As in the Cratylus, the legislator has ‘the dialectician standing
226 Intro|        altered in the spirit of the legislator, and of being administered
227 Intro|        strongly of opinion that the legislator, like the physician, may
228 Intro|       tyrant who has power with the legislator who has wisdom: he regards
229 Intro|        their externals. The ancient legislator did not really take a blank
230 Intro|         greatest power? The ancient legislator would have found this question
231 Text |            And now observe that the legislator who has to preside over
232 Text |           them; if, I say, the wise legislator were suddenly to come again,
233 Text |          receives from the king and legislator,—showing his own peculiar
234 Text |           to the appointment of the legislator?~YOUNG SOCRATES: No; his
235 Text |          the Statesman and the good legislator, having the inspiration