Ion
    Part
  1 Text |       the son of Panopeus, or of Theodorus the Samian, or of any individual


Phaedrus
    Part
  2 Intro|         terms invented by Polus, Theodorus, Evenus, Tisias, Gorgias,
  3 Text |      Nestor, and Thrasymachus or Theodorus your Odysseus.~SOCRATES:
  4 Text |           You mean the excellent Theodorus.~SOCRATES: Yes; and he tells


Protagoras
    Part
  5 Intro| detentions by the way, which, as Theodorus says in the Theaetetus,


The Sophist
    Part
  6 Intro| appointment of the previous day, Theodorus and Theaetetus meet Socrates
  7 Intro|        an Eleatic Stranger, whom Theodorus introduces as a true philosopher.
  8 Intro|       asked the same question by Theodorus and Theaetetus; and he at
  9 Text |         PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Theodorus, Theaetetus, Socrates. An
 10 Text |        An Eleatic Stranger, whom Theodorus and Theaetetus bring with
 11 Text |         who is a silent auditor.~THEODORUS: Here we are, Socrates,
 12 Text |          Is he not rather a god, Theodorus, who comes to us in the
 13 Text |         and to cross-examine us?~THEODORUS: Nay, Socrates, he is not
 14 Text |      whom the terms are applied.~THEODORUS: What terms?~SOCRATES: Sophist,
 15 Text |          statesman, philosopher.~THEODORUS: What is your difficulty
 16 Text |         assign one to each name?~THEODORUS: I dare say that the Stranger
 17 Text |         I am far from objecting, Theodorus, nor have I any difficulty
 18 Text |     means a slight or easy task.~THEODORUS: You have happened to light,


The Statesman
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 19 Intro|     suggested by the presence of Theodorus, the geometrician. There
 20 Intro|        have reason to thank you, Theodorus, for the acquaintance of
 21 Intro|     Theaetetus and the Stranger.~THEODORUS: And you will have three
 22 Intro|   geometrical ratio can express?~THEODORUS: By the god Ammon, Socrates,
 23 Intro|      shall respond in his place; Theodorus agrees to the suggestion,
 24 Text |         PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Theodorus, Socrates, The Eleatic Stranger,
 25 Text |         you many thanks, indeed, Theodorus, for the acquaintance both
 26 Text |  Theaetetus and of the Stranger.~THEODORUS: And in a little while,
 27 Text |           philosopher! O my dear Theodorus, do my ears truly witness
 28 Text |     calculator and geometrician?~THEODORUS: What do you mean, Socrates?~
 29 Text |   geometrical ratio can express.~THEODORUS: By Ammon, the god of Cyrene,
 30 Text |       STRANGER: That is my duty, Theodorus; having begun I must go
 31 Text |         be done with Theaetetus?~THEODORUS: In what respect?~STRANGER:
 32 Text |         him? What do you advise?~THEODORUS: Yes, give the other a turn,


Theaetetus
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 33 Intro|       dialogue, is a disciple of Theodorus, the great geometrician,
 34 Intro|        the praises of his master Theodorus. He is a youthful Socrates,
 35 Intro|     Symposium. The picture which Theodorus gives of his courage and
 36 Intro|    interest of the introduction.~Theodorus, the geometrician, had once
 37 Intro|         as the dialectician, and Theodorus could not therefore have
 38 Intro|        his ‘homo mensura,’ which Theodorus also considers to be ‘really
 39 Intro|         and that Theaetetus, and Theodorus, the geometrician of Cyrene,
 40 Intro|        Socrates begins by asking Theodorus whether, in his visit to
 41 Intro|          rich. He is informed by Theodorus that the youth is named
 42 Intro|        image of my ugly self, as Theodorus declares. Not that his remark
 43 Intro|   similar trap which is laid for Theodorus). ‘Then, Theaetetus, you
 44 Intro|         have to be examined, for Theodorus has been praising you in
 45 Intro|   already given, or I shall make Theodorus repeat your praises, and
 46 Intro|     asking him what he learns of Theodorus. He is himself anxious to
 47 Intro|     which he wants Theaetetus or Theodorus (or whichever of the company
 48 Intro|       asks, ‘What is knowledge?’ Theodorus is too old to answer questions,
 49 Intro|   knowledge is what he learns of Theodorus, i.e. geometry and arithmetic;
 50 Intro|         will not be angry,’ says Theodorus; ‘he is very good-natured.
 51 Intro|        oracles out of his book.’~Theodorus thinks that Socrates is
 52 Intro|           And yet surely you and Theodorus had better reflect whether
 53 Intro|     probability is a safe guide. Theodorus would be a bad geometrician
 54 Intro|   different. But he is dead, and Theodorus, whom he left guardian of
 55 Intro|       zealous in defending him.’~Theodorus objects that Callias is
 56 Intro|        verbal criticisms.’~Such, Theodorus, is the very slight help
 57 Intro|          but not wiser than you, Theodorus.~‘The rule of the Spartan
 58 Intro|     himself nor to anybody else.~Theodorus is inclined to think that
 59 Intro|       evil among mankind.’~Evil, Theodorus, must ever remain in this
 60 Intro|          principles.’ I suppose, Theodorus, that you have never seen
 61 Intro|         close of the discussion, Theodorus claims to be released from
 62 Intro|    without knowledge. I may know Theodorus and Theaetetus and not see
 63 Intro|        1st, when knowing you and Theodorus, and having the impression
 64 Intro|        same syllable in the name Theodorus, and in learning to read
 65 Intro|     shall hope to see you again, Theodorus, at this place.~...~I. The
 66 Intro|     Protagoras applies the term. Theodorus justly charges Socrates
 67 Text |          THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Theodorus, Theaetetus.~Euclid and
 68 Text |         he mentioned—these were, Theodorus the geometrician (of Cyrene),
 69 Text |      enough about the Cyrenians, Theodorus, I would ask you whether
 70 Text |        who is good for anything.~THEODORUS: Yes, Socrates, I have become
 71 Text |      good news; whose son is he?~THEODORUS: The name of his father
 72 Text |          a considerable fortune.~THEODORUS: Theaetetus, Socrates, is
 73 Text |       him to come and sit by me.~THEODORUS: I will. Come hither, Theaetetus,
 74 Text |         myself in your face, for Theodorus says that we are alike;
 75 Text |         should.~SOCRATES: And is Theodorus a painter?~THEAETETUS: I
 76 Text |          exhibit; since although Theodorus has praised many a citizen
 77 Text |          in jest?~SOCRATES: Nay, Theodorus is not given to jesting;
 78 Text |         to ask what you learn of Theodorus: something of geometry,
 79 Text |          there no reply? I hope, Theodorus, that I am not betrayed
 80 Text |        be friendly and sociable.~THEODORUS: The reverse of rudeness,
 81 Text |       you hear, Theaetetus, what Theodorus says? The philosopher, whom
 82 Text |      sciences which I learn from Theodorus— geometry, and those which
 83 Text |          Theaetetus?~THEAETETUS: Theodorus was writing out for us something
 84 Text |     fully justify the praises of Theodorus, and that he will not be
 85 Text |    appear to want; and therefore Theodorus is a deceiver after all.~
 86 Text |      good cheer; do not say that Theodorus was mistaken about you,
 87 Text |         my dear Theaetetus, that Theodorus had a true insight into
 88 Text |       take away your first-born?~THEODORUS: Theaetetus will not be
 89 Text |        the truth?~SOCRATES: You, Theodorus, are a lover of theories,
 90 Text | something from our young friend.~THEODORUS: Do as you say, Socrates;
 91 Text |      SOCRATES: Shall I tell you, Theodorus, what amazes me in your
 92 Text |         acquaintance Protagoras?~THEODORUS: What is it?~SOCRATES: I
 93 Text |          the shrine of his book.~THEODORUS: He was a friend of mine,
 94 Text |          Lacedaemonian palestra, Theodorus, would you have a right
 95 Text |      judging of your own person?~THEODORUS: Why not, Socrates, if they
 96 Text |  SOCRATES: Your will is my will, Theodorus, as the proverbial philosophers
 97 Text |           and yet surely you and Theodorus had better reflect whether
 98 Text |           SOCRATES: Then you and Theodorus mean to say that we must
 99 Text |           and of whom our friend Theodorus is one, are unwilling to
100 Text |    myself, and see justice done?~THEODORUS: Not I, Socrates, but rather
101 Text |        him.~SOCRATES: Very good, Theodorus; you shall see how I will
102 Text |         to you or to Theaetetus?~THEODORUS: To both of us, and let
103 Text |        know that which he knows?~THEODORUS: How shall we answer, Theaetetus?~
104 Text | perplexity to one another. Such, Theodorus, is the very slight help
105 Text |         far more gloriose style.~THEODORUS: You are jesting, Socrates;
106 Text |      that we made a joke of him.~THEODORUS: How could I fail to observe
107 Text |          shall we do as he says?~THEODORUS: By all means.~SOCRATES:
108 Text |        are making fun with boys.~THEODORUS: Well, but is not Theaetetus
109 Text |      long beards?~SOCRATES: Yes, Theodorus, but not better than you;
110 Text |          supposed to excel them.~THEODORUS: He who is sitting by you,
111 Text |       argument.~SOCRATES: There, Theodorus, you have hit off precisely
112 Text |     yourself good as well as me.~THEODORUS: I consent; lead me whither
113 Text |  reproach of talking childishly.~THEODORUS: I will do my best to avoid
114 Text |        the wise excelled others.~THEODORUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Had
115 Text |      great deal may be at stake?~THEODORUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then let
116 Text |          the basis of agreement.~THEODORUS: In what way?~SOCRATES:
117 Text |      seems to a man, is to him.’~THEODORUS: Yes, so he says.~SOCRATES:
118 Text |      least in their own opinion.~THEODORUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
119 Text |   ignorance to be false opinion.~THEODORUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: How
120 Text |    sometimes false. For tell me, Theodorus, do you suppose that you
121 Text |         mistaken in his opinion?~THEODORUS: The thing is incredible,
122 Text |       the measure of all things.~THEODORUS: How so?~SOCRATES: Why,
123 Text |          that you judge falsely?~THEODORUS: Yes, indeed, Socrates,
124 Text |         the ten thousand others?~THEODORUS: No other inference seems
125 Text |        is more untrue than true.~THEODORUS: That would follow if the
126 Text |    opinions of all men are true.~THEODORUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
127 Text |         think him false is true?~THEODORUS: Of course.~SOCRATES: Whereas
128 Text |         that they speak falsely?~THEODORUS: They do not.~SOCRATES:
129 Text |       this opinion is also true.~THEODORUS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: Then
130 Text |          learned—am I not right?~THEODORUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the
131 Text |         himself to any one else?~THEODORUS: I think, Socrates, that
132 Text |       the understandings of men.~THEODORUS: In that opinion I quite
133 Text |         them to cure themselves.~THEODORUS: I quite agree.~SOCRATES:
134 Text |      Here arises a new question, Theodorus, which threatens to be more
135 Text |      more serious than the last.~THEODORUS: Well, Socrates, we have
136 Text |      court. How natural is this!~THEODORUS: What do you mean?~SOCRATES:
137 Text |         breeding unlike a slave.~THEODORUS: In what is the difference
138 Text |      wisdom. Such is the lawyer, Theodorus. Will you have the companion
139 Text |       digression which we claim.~THEODORUS: Nay, Socrates, not until
140 Text |  anything which is within reach.~THEODORUS: What do you mean, Socrates?~
141 Text |      will illustrate my meaning, Theodorus, by the jest which the clever
142 Text |          that you understand me, Theodorus?~THEODORUS: I do, and what
143 Text |        understand me, Theodorus?~THEODORUS: I do, and what you say
144 Text |       him, and always at a loss.~THEODORUS: That is very true, Socrates.~
145 Text |          are the two characters, Theodorus: the one of the freeman,
146 Text |        or men blessed of heaven.~THEODORUS: If you could only persuade
147 Text |      among men.~SOCRATES: Evils, Theodorus, can never pass away; for
148 Text |         which cannot be escaped.~THEODORUS: What is that?~SOCRATES:
149 Text | listening to the talk of idiots.~THEODORUS: Very true, Socrates.~SOCRATES:
150 Text |      please, we will now return.~THEODORUS: For my part, Socrates,
151 Text |         a mockery, would it not?~THEODORUS: Certainly it would.~SOCRATES:
152 Text |     contemplated under the name.~THEODORUS: Right.~SOCRATES: Whatever
153 Text |  legislation have any other aim?~THEODORUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
154 Text |       not mistakes often happen?~THEODORUS: Yes, I think that there
155 Text |      other words, is the future.~THEODORUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Suppose
156 Text |        to himself. Is it not so?~THEODORUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And do you
157 Text |        the physician’s judgment?~THEODORUS: How ludicrous!~SOCRATES:
158 Text |   gathered than the harp-player?~THEODORUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And
159 Text |       harmonious or the reverse?~THEODORUS: Of course.~SOCRATES: And
160 Text |        us than the ordinary man?~THEODORUS: Certainly, Socrates, he
161 Text |     every one could for himself?~THEODORUS: Who indeed?~SOCRATES: And
162 Text |         their highest interests?~THEODORUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Then
163 Text |     being a measure of anything.~THEODORUS: That is the best refutation
164 Text |   SOCRATES: There are many ways, Theodorus, in which the doctrine that
165 Text |       are combination not a few.~THEODORUS: No small, war, indeed,
166 Text |          the more bound, my dear Theodorus, to examine the question
167 Text |         set forth by themselves.~THEODORUS: Certainly we are. About
168 Text | everywhere.~SOCRATES: I suppose, Theodorus, that you have only seen
169 Text |         to make like themselves.~THEODORUS: Disciples! my good sir,
170 Text | forgotten the opposite doctrine, Theodorus,~‘Alone Being remains unmoved,
171 Text |        ancient and famous men. O Theodorus, do you think that there
172 Text |          the danger is so great?~THEODORUS: Nay, Socrates, not to examine
173 Text |      that what is called motion?~THEODORUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Here then
174 Text |          motion of another kind?~THEODORUS: I think so.~SOCRATES: Say
175 Text |           and ‘motion in place.’~THEODORUS: You are right.~SOCRATES:
176 Text |         and another in one only?~THEODORUS: Indeed, I do not know what
177 Text |          all things are at rest.~THEODORUS: To be sure.~SOCRATES: And
178 Text |       have every sort of motion?~THEODORUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: Consider
179 Text |        percipient. You remember?~THEODORUS: Of course.~SOCRATES: We
180 Text |       things in motion and flux?~THEODORUS: Yes, they will reply.~SOCRATES:
181 Text |      place and are also changed?~THEODORUS: Of course, if the motion
182 Text |          are in motion and flux?~THEODORUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: But
183 Text |          be rightly used at all?~THEODORUS: How is that possible, Socrates,
184 Text |       act of seeing and hearing?~THEODORUS: Certainly not, if all things
185 Text |         of every kind of motion?~THEODORUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES:
186 Text |    Theaetetus and I were saying.~THEODORUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then
187 Text |      than what is not knowledge?~THEODORUS: I suppose not.~SOCRATES:
188 Text |        words expressive of rest.~THEODORUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Yes,
189 Text |       Quite true.~SOCRATES: Yes, Theodorus, except in saying ‘thus’
190 Text |         is perfectly indefinite.~THEODORUS: Yes, that is a manner of
191 Text |          home.~SOCRATES: And so, Theodorus, we have got rid of your
192 Text |          convince us that it is.~THEODORUS: Very good, Socrates; and
193 Text |      agreement.~THEAETETUS: Not, Theodorus, until you and Socrates
194 Text |           as you were proposing.~THEODORUS: You, Theaetetus, who are
195 Text |      about the doctrine of rest.~THEODORUS: Invite Socrates to an argument—
196 Text |          SOCRATES: Nevertheless, Theodorus, I am afraid that I shall
197 Text |       the request of Theaetetus.~THEODORUS: Not comply! for what reason?~
198 Text |     Theaetetus, and not ugly, as Theodorus was saying; for he who utters
199 Text |       doing so. Were not you and Theodorus just now remarking very
200 Text |      once more, then:—I, knowing Theodorus, and remembering in my own
201 Text |           Socrates can recognize Theodorus and Theaetetus, but he sees
202 Text |          mind that Theaetetus is Theodorus. Am I not right?~THEAETETUS:
203 Text |      false opinion about you and Theodorus, either when I know both
204 Text |         is, when knowing you and Theodorus, and having on the waxen
205 Text |      distinguish Theaetetus from Theodorus, or from some outer barbarian?~
206 Text |   indictment. To-morrow morning, Theodorus, I shall hope to see you